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Dear all,
I read the forum since some months now, and I thank you all for the awesome things I learned there, now I would like to know whether something I have in mind is achievable or not.
I own an Ubiquio 501, a very thin qwerty PDA (with touchscreen, wifi and all) which works very well. However:
-With the AKU 3.3 ROM (released around february) it suffered from very bad graphic/video performance, but everything else was working pretty well.
-With the last WM6 upgrade (released in august) the maker fixed the graphic issue, but for me the keyboard behavior is nothing but unacceptable. It seems like I am the only one having problems with the keyboard, however a downgrade (to AKU 3.3) fix the keyboard bit, so I guess the problem is not in the hardware.
What I would like to achieve is to put the keyboard drivers in the WM6 ROM, what do you think, is this feasible? I was able to unpack the ROMs with the kitchen tools, but am not sure of which module the actual keyboard driver is, the relevant files and dirs (find dump/ -iname "*key*") in the
AKU3.3 ROM :
Code:
./KeyBDState_service.dll
./KeyBDState_service.dll/KeyBDState_service.dll
./KeyIcon.dll
./KeyIcon.dll/KeyIcon.dll
./keypad.dll
./keypad.dll/keypad.dll
./keysifter.dll
./keysifter.dll/keysifter.dll
./devauthkey.dat
and in the WM6 ROM:
Code:
./KeyBDState_service.dll
./KeyBDState_service.dll/KeyBDState_service.dll
---> same file as in WM5 (md5sum match)
./KeyIcon.dll
./KeyIcon.dll/KeyIcon.dll
--> different
./keypad.dll
./keypad.dll/keypad.dll
-->different
./keysifter.dll
./keysifter.dll/keysifter.dll
--> different
./devauthkey.dat
-->same file as in WM5 (but I guess it doesn't have anything to do with the keyboard!
Should I look for other files? (I think so
Thank you all in advance!
Regards,
DAniele
I have had the 503g for a few weeks now and love it. If there is anything I can help you with please let me know.
Hi maevro, thanks for joining
I just found (using a task manager) that stopping the "key sifter" service yields to a complete stop of the hardware keyboard (only things that keep working are the keyboard backlight and some "special" buttons: the comm-manager activator, the mode switcher (alpha, num), the shift key).
However, overwriting the keysifter.dll file with the wm5 version I was only able to reach a non-working state (the service does not start automatically and will refuse to start manually).
So, keysifter.dll is definitely (one) culprit, but additional testing may be needed to see its dependencies (I guess) in order to replace it with a (better) working version.
Regards,
DAniele
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gdaniele said:
Hi maevro, thanks for joining
I just found (using a task manager) that stopping the "key sifter" service yields to a complete stop of the hardware keyboard (only things that keep working are the keyboard backlight and some "special" buttons: the comm-manager activator, the mode switcher (alpha, num), the shift key).
However, overwriting the keysifter.dll file with the wm5 version I was only able to reach a non-working state (the service does not start automatically and will refuse to start manually).
So, keysifter.dll is definitely (one) culprit, but additional testing may be needed to see its dependencies (I guess) in order to replace it with a (better) working version.
Regards,
DAniele
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Is the graphicproblem totally gone, so you can play games and watch movies without any problems?
Also, do you have any problems with network on this device?
Keep us updated if you find any solution to the keyboard-delay problem!
Thanks
Well, I kind of sorted it out. The solution ain't optimal, but at last I can write my sms & mails as I was used to.
After many tries and file swap between wm5 and wm6 rom dump, I stopped the keyBDState service and... kaboom, everything worked as expected Yes, it was _that_ simple
Please note that there are still some issues (shift + arrow keys does not highlight) but I made this mod a few days ago and have noted no instability whatsoever.
The only thing that ceased to work after the mod is that I can no longer compose phone numbers from today screen (but in the phone app everything works, so I am not that disappointed).
If you want to try it by yourself, I can only advice for a prior full backup, and can take no responsibility for whatever damage may occur to your data, phone, sim card... blah blah blah ...
So long for my first post, although I really would like to investigate the thing a little bit further (and get highlighting back as it was in wm5).
To answer uggugg, I only tried a (mandatory ) Zoolander sample and it worked well (re-encoded to fit screen size, 20 fps, don't remember the bitrate, should check) as for the games... I really ain't into gaming (not on my phone, at least) so I'm sorry I couldn't tell you anything.
Regards,
DAniele
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This is well known in Tablet Pc's but with an 800Mhz processor it is a must.
If you don't want to use the Tablet PC input (and to be honest without screen rotation what the use is it!)
Go to the Run command, type 'Services.msc'
(If you cant find this just right click My Computer and select Manage/Services)
Stop Tablet PC input (and set it under properties to 'Manual' not 'Auto' if you dont want it to sart again on re-boot)
This will release at least 10% of processor time and a small amount of vital memory so we can actually use it as a UMPC!
It is also a well know bug that while Tablet PC input is running you can not use certain HP scanners via network.
Sorry,
but do you really think that to be a good idea?
I tried it and was not able to use the touch screen at all. No possibility to start any program with the stylus, no manipulation of anything with the stylus possible.
That at least was the result when I deactivated the tabblet pc service.
Is that the idea? I can't believe it.
S.
Yes it was the idea.
I should have added that this should be used if you do not use the stylus too often as I do with keyboard open and mini BT mouse.
It can easily be restarted via the same method.
FYI, this does not effect touch input in Snapvue.
I don't know whether to laugh or cry at this thread.....
It's like saying you can stop Vista from running so slowly by turning it off.
you know.. you can also install win xp at the same level of functionality. if you want vista without touchscreen, use xp. and you shuld release about 40-50% of processor usage and 300-700mb of ram.
Pantaloonie said:
I don't know whether to laugh or cry at this thread.....
It's like saying you can stop Vista from running so slowly by turning it off.
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I dont understand your point? Not all installs of Vista are Tablet PC and the word Vista does not mean 'Touch screen input'.
All I am saying is you can disable the Tablet input which is relatively crippled anyway on such a small screen without rotation.
OK, I have changed the thread title as it may have been a bit too literal for some. Sorry.
Instead, you can simply remove the Tablet input tab and just use the tray icon or the text entry icon. You don't use as much CPU, and still get tablet functionality.
thaihugo said:
Instead, you can simply remove the Tablet input tab and just use the tray icon or the text entry icon. You don't use as much CPU, and still get tablet functionality.
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Good one!
See, one contribution!
thaihugo said:
See, one contribution!
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Ha Ha, ya got me.
thaihugo said:
Instead, you can simply remove the Tablet input tab and just use the tray icon or the text entry icon. You don't use as much CPU, and still get tablet functionality.
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Is there no way to switch off the Tablet PC Input Pannel all together and still use the stylus?
Sure, just uncheck all options in the input pannel parameters, including the ones when being in a text editing zone.
Don't know if you get much cpu cycle, as it usually uses cpu when clicked
I just did a fresh FLASH on a replacement device - probably should have checked all the keyboard functions first, but oh well...
... are there any things I should be looking for on this giant list of components that would either conflict in such a way that the Function and Shift keys don't function OR the absence of which will prevent them from working?
anyone experiencing this type of issue?
Nicholas
Go Sprint - Go Pre!
Hi all,
I received yesterday my new i8000.
There are 2 features that are seriously missing and I was wondering if anyone knows if they can be restored by a tweak or even an application:
1. the mouse: I hate using the pointing device they give out with the phone, but in some cases, fingers are too big. The mouse they had on the i900 was perfect.
2. Screen rotation/landscape mode: This option also disappeared, comparing to the first Omnia.
I would be happy to hear people's comments.
Thanks.
eh? Screen rotations gone? Are you saying that if you turn the device sideways it won't re-orientate all the screen. This would be a real pain in the a*&e for things like Opera!
Hi dstu69, screen rotation is there but not for all apps. Mine works with Opera. May be try calibrating your device in Settings.
pamburger said:
Hi dstu69, screen rotation is there but not for all apps. Mine works with Opera. May be try calibrating your device in Settings.
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Thank frak for that!
too many problems
Actually, some automatic rotation is indeed available in some applications, but, for example, I have a GPS application that loads based on the current orientation and it looks bad in portrait mode and there's nothing I can do to fix it.
Also, I'm discovering more problems:
1. When I download emails (IMAP, but I didn't test it in POP3), if i click on them to view them, they are not shown.
2. The excellent mouse we have in the original Omnia disappeared.
3. The flashlight (volume-down long-press) also seems to have disappeared.
This phone is somewhat disappointing. One would think that they'll keep the good stuff and improve the phone. Instead, they took away the things that made the first version so great
Omnia II Missing Features
I just sold my Omnia i900 assuming that the I8000 would build upon its predecessor's strengths? What a shame for Samsung! Here are my findings so far:
Aside of all the issues already mentioned I learned the following:
- Screen reorientation works on some apps but also on e-mail/messaging, provided you select the Samsung keyboard Irgh!!!! Silly as it may sound, that is the case!
- Mouse is history as the CUBE does not have the sensor built in!
- Signatures do NOT work except when creating new mail! Yes, the flag for inserting signatures for replies and forwards was selected!
- There is no way to advance from one e-mail to the next other than going UP to the in box and selecting the next one manually! That IS stupid SAMSUNG. like the previous Omnia, one should be able to flip through e-mail with a gesture as if we were flipping a sheet of paper!
- Fianally a managed to synchronize the sent items folder in outlook! However, you have to unselect the TouchWiz interface, go to the email application and select the options menu. Otherwise it is inaccessible!
- I hope WM6.5 rendition of Samsung takes care of that? Does Anybody know when WM6.5 will be made available?
Cheers
camera LED as torchlight for omnia II - i8000, let's try
http://omnia.chupasweb.net/doku.php?id=omnia2torch
Some of these actually DO work...
MCEITLIN said:
I just sold my Omnia i900 assuming that the I8000 would build upon its predecessor's strengths? What a shame for Samsung! Here are my findings so far:
Aside of all the issues already mentioned I learned the following:
- Screen reorientation works on some apps but also on e-mail/messaging, provided you select the Samsung keyboard Irgh!!!! Silly as it may sound, that is the case!
- Mouse is history as the CUBE does not have the sensor built in!
- Signatures do NOT work except when creating new mail! Yes, the flag for inserting signatures for replies and forwards was selected!
- There is no way to advance from one e-mail to the next other than going UP to the in box and selecting the next one manually! That IS stupid SAMSUNG. like the previous Omnia, one should be able to flip through e-mail with a gesture as if we were flipping a sheet of paper!
- Fianally a managed to synchronize the sent items folder in outlook! However, you have to unselect the TouchWiz interface, go to the email application and select the options menu. Otherwise it is inaccessible!
- I hope WM6.5 rendition of Samsung takes care of that? Does Anybody know when WM6.5 will be made available?
Cheers
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I agree that there are some issues with the Omnia II i8000 but many of the ones you listed work fine...
1. Screen Orientation-Yes it's automatic for Opera and SMS/MMS typing but no others. However, there is a fix where you can assign a button to rotate ANY screen at ANY time. Check it out on here...http://www.modaco.com/category/410/i8000-omnia-ii-http-i8000-modaco-com/
2. I agree about the Mouse and the CUBE not using the sensor.
3. I had NO PROBLEMS with signatures straight out the box.
4. If you start reading your emails from the top of the list, after you DELETE one, it does move to the next one. I agree you have to go back UP in order to read the next one if you don't DELETE the one you were reading.
5. I had NO PROBLEMS syncing SENT mail from Outlook straight out the box.
6. There are several WM6.5 ROMS over on MoDaCo. I've tried a few and each have their own PROS and CONS. Last I heard was Samsung won't have a release until early 2010. By that time, I would have moved on to the HD2 U.S. edition (assuming it's available).
Got my i8000 with original Wimo 6.5 (21856.5.0.65) a few days and i´m happy with it (previous device was nike with manila 2d).
1. there is a tool called OrientationDetection from mcbee to define the apps to autorotate.
2. don´t nedd a mouse or a stylus. fingerfriendly touchwiz let you make all settings with your finger.
4. Perhaps it´s 6.5, but i can flip through sms/email with sliding the finger from right to left.
I would totally agree with positive comments of I8000.
This is my first non-HTC phone in last 5 years (S200-Trinity-TP-T.Cruise) and I must say WOOWWW!!!
Build quality unseen by HTC, hardware (just put SKTools benchmark you'll see some 50% better performance over HD), lightweight.
I must say - I don't like Samsung software - but prefer naked WinMo. But when was re-cooking the problem? At least for this forum members?
So in one word, Samsung made terrific WinMo phone.
Must say that every HTC I owned forced me to certain compromise:
1. Qtek S200 (speaker would die)
2. Trinity (excellent, but paint peels quickly - come on!)
3. TPro (sold it in 3 days, keyboard wobbled, and was not substantially faster than Trinity - which could be overclocked if needed as well as S200)
4. Touch Cruise (thought I could be easy for a while - but speaker is nightmare, lousiest screen of all HTCs I owned (kinda yellowish) - later I found out that HTC changes vendors for certain parts so check your build date before buying). Not to mention Qualcomm drivers issue. Trinity was faster even when playing Scumm games!
I simply cannot understand this phone to have lower price in the shops compared to HD. Faster CPU (with scalable speed), AMOLED, 720x480 video at 30fps, 16GB integrated storage, lighter 20% and roughly 50% faster in all benchmarks. SKTools build I used put it as a fastest PPC device (didn't have HD2), and not just in processor - check out Direct Draw test - second fastest after Dell Axim x51.
Dunno for sure - but that might mean that beside CPU raw-power someone also put some effort in writting proper drivers.(ahemmm!)
I can only say - we my friends have been heavily ripped off during past years for owning WinMo devices. Thank heaven for competitors!
i have my one of my buttons maps to rotate the screen (above camera buttom) and it works quite well most samsung apps that have rotate work without the button but if i want to force it i can using a button so i get the best of both worlds
from modaco
To be able to manually rotate the screen in any application: go to registry hk_local machine – system – gdi – rotation; in key HideOrientationUi change 1 to 0. Then open Settings – Personal – Buttons and assign to any button the command “Rotate Screen” (you can see this option after you change the registry and only in winmo setting page) (working well for me, I prefer to be able to choose when I want to view something in landscape mode than relaying on how I rotate my phone…)
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dstu69 said:
Hi all,
2. Screen rotation/landscape mode: This option also disappeared, comparing to the first Omnia.
I would be happy to hear people's comments.
Thanks.
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Auto rotation can be achieved by using Orientation Detection. You can selectively choose which programs to autorotate.
http://www.modaco.com/content/i8000...orientation-detection-v1-0-autorotation-v1-1/
hkwildboy said:
Auto rotation can be achieved by using Orientation Detection. You can selectively choose which programs to autorotate.
http://www.modaco.com/content/i8000...orientation-detection-v1-0-autorotation-v1-1/
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There is also a onboard-autorotation. It can be configured in registry
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\\Software\AutoRotation
It is recomended to select allways the next upcoming number in the string
The whole number of strings must be set in the dword "Count"
Smille123 said:
There is also a onboard-autorotation. It can be configured in registry
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\\Software\AutoRotation
It is recomended to select allways the next upcoming number in the string
The whole number of strings must be set in the dword "Count"
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I've made a little app to manage this registry setting.
junalmeida said:
I've made a little app to manage this registry setting.
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nice to know, wanna share??
I've made a release here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=5523515
Cannot install any type of Japanese language packs
If anyone decides to install CE-STAR or any other language enabled softwares, pls dont do it, ur contacts, emails and SMS stuff will disappear!! I tried around 5 different softwares already and really messes up the phone!!!!
Hi All,
I am wondering if anybody here had any success with getting their Yoga Book to work nicely with the GIMP photo editor at all? I can use it to draw, but as a mouse with no pressure. I went through a few tutorials online on how to get the GIMP to work with Bamboo/Wacom tablets, but it doesn't seem to work with the Yoga Book, as the drivers aren't being seen by GIMP or DirectInput for whatever reason.
I am more of a casual artist, and so I don't feel like I want to fork out money for say Photoshop, when the GIMP can for the most part do what I'd like. Plus, I am mostly an open source guy, using Linux as my main daily driver on my home PC, that I am fairly used to the GIMP already.
Thanks!
kveroneau said:
Hi All,
I am wondering if anybody here had any success with getting their Yoga Book to work nicely with the GIMP photo editor at all? I can use it to draw, but as a mouse with no pressure. I went through a few tutorials online on how to get the GIMP to work with Bamboo/Wacom tablets, but it doesn't seem to work with the Yoga Book, as the drivers aren't being seen by GIMP or DirectInput for whatever reason.
I am more of a casual artist, and so I don't feel like I want to fork out money for say Photoshop, when the GIMP can for the most part do what I'd like. Plus, I am mostly an open source guy, using Linux as my main daily driver on my home PC, that I am fairly used to the GIMP already.
Thanks!
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Hey,
I indeed had the same issues with GIMP (also with Krita and MyPaint - I am open source guy as well ) a while ago. The trick is to install specific drives from Wacom. Here is the link (or at least I hope it is, I tried this few months ago ): http://us.wacom.com/en/feeldriver/ EDIT: Please note that this driver might change the way stylus behaves and might not work correctly.
Just little bit of advice/side note; I tried all thinkable painting/photoshop software on my yoga - both open source and piad one (trial versions) - and thou I use open source software daily in my work (GIMP and Inkscape) it is not the same on yoga. Small screen and Atom processor is not very optimal - it works, no doubt about it, but it just isn't same as on the desktop. I hate to admit it, but after a while I ended with older version of Sketchbook Pro - it runs very well and has nice easy UI and reasonably powerful tools, which is perfect for light sketching.
Thanks. So, I tried installing the driver, and it did install successfully. However, GIMP is still unable to work with pressure sensitivity. On the bright side, the Halo keyboard, and touchscreen are unaffected and still work as expected. The only issue from installing the driver is that now when I use the pen on the create, I still a full white windows cursor on the screen which is very very annoying.... I very much preferred the unobtrusive translucent circle. I went into the settings to attempt to return said circle, but it resulted in total failure as the annoying white Windows cursor remained. This now renders any drawing or writing activity now annoying as the windows cursor is an eye sore and just gets in the way and blocks whatever is behind it.
I am writing this on the Yoga book, and I'm just noticing something with the keyboard. I am a very fast typer, and I am feeling the hepatic feedback from each key press, but the click sound is only heard after I stop typing quickly. Not sure if this is related to the driver or if it was like this prior.
I am now considering removing said driver, however, I am unsure if it completely replaced the Lenovo one, and if I remove it, will it just turn this machine into a brick, and needing a full factory reset to get everything back to normal.
For anyone else reading about this driver, I highly recommend to avoid installing it until these specific quirks can be figured out, and if uninstalling it after will result in a non-functional wacom touch screen and create pad. I am really hoping that the keyboard part of the create pad is part of a completely separate driver, and the pen button/light is just a toggle between two completely separate hardware modes. I'll see if I can use a restore point perhaps to return back the previous functionality. I am hoping that Lenovo themselves issues an update for this rather great piece of technology so that we don't need to download wacom or third party non-Lenvovo tested drivers. This device is fairly unique and it's hard to see a generic driver keeping all the customization from Lenovo working 100%.
UPDATE: Okay, so I was unable to remove the driver using the standard add/remove program thing in Windows, which seemed to have restored the original functionality. My cursor is back to a nice small circle when I hover or use the create pad with the pen, which is much more favorable. I can live without pressure sensitivity in GIMP, as long as the sketching apps have pressure and show me a non-obtrusive circle, I can easily export said sketches into PNG format and import that into the GIMP to further edit using more advanced tools.
kveroneau said:
Thanks. So, I tried installing the driver, and it did install successfully. However, GIMP is still unable to work with pressure sensitivity. On the bright side, the Halo keyboard, and touchscreen are unaffected and still work as expected. The only issue from installing the driver is that now when I use the pen on the create, I still a full white windows cursor on the screen which is very very annoying.... I very much preferred the unobtrusive translucent circle. I went into the settings to attempt to return said circle, but it resulted in total failure as the annoying white Windows cursor remained. This now renders any drawing or writing activity now annoying as the windows cursor is an eye sore and just gets in the way and blocks whatever is behind it.
I am writing this on the Yoga book, and I'm just noticing something with the keyboard. I am a very fast typer, and I am feeling the hepatic feedback from each key press, but the click sound is only heard after I stop typing quickly. Not sure if this is related to the driver or if it was like this prior.
I am now considering removing said driver, however, I am unsure if it completely replaced the Lenovo one, and if I remove it, will it just turn this machine into a brick, and needing a full factory reset to get everything back to normal.
For anyone else reading about this driver, I highly recommend to avoid installing it until these specific quirks can be figured out, and if uninstalling it after will result in a non-functional wacom touch screen and create pad. I am really hoping that the keyboard part of the create pad is part of a completely separate driver, and the pen button/light is just a toggle between two completely separate hardware modes. I'll see if I can use a restore point perhaps to return back the previous functionality. I am hoping that Lenovo themselves issues an update for this rather great piece of technology so that we don't need to download wacom or third party non-Lenvovo tested drivers. This device is fairly unique and it's hard to see a generic driver keeping all the customization from Lenovo working 100%.
UPDATE: Okay, so I was unable to remove the driver using the standard add/remove program thing in Windows, which seemed to have restored the original functionality. My cursor is back to a nice small circle when I hover or use the create pad with the pen, which is much more favorable. I can live without pressure sensitivity in GIMP, as long as the sketching apps have pressure and show me a non-obtrusive circle, I can easily export said sketches into PNG format and import that into the GIMP to further edit using more advanced tools.
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Hey, sorry to hear that you had issues, I did not noticed any when I tried the driver and pressure in GIMP/Krita/MyPaint was working - if I remember correctly, there was new wacom icon under Control Panel, did you tried adjust this? Also in GIMP you need to enable, and correctly set, "Dynamic" setting under brush tool for pressure sensitivity to work.
Anyway, I edited my previous post with warning about drivers so that anyone would know immediately. Again sorry for the issues, but from my point of view it worked.
Talsi said:
Hey, sorry to hear that you had issues, I did not noticed any when I tried the driver and pressure in GIMP/Krita/MyPaint was working - if I remember correctly, there was new wacom icon under Control Panel, did you tried adjust this? Also in GIMP you need to enable, and correctly set, "Dynamic" setting under brush tool for pressure sensitivity to work.
Anyway, I edited my previous post with warning about drivers so that anyone would know immediately. Again sorry for the issues, but from my point of view it worked.
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I did notice the new settings under control panel, but there was nothing there but pen button related options, of which the Lenovo pen has no buttons. I tried a few options in GIMP, and the Wacom tablet did display itself as an Input device. I figure I could have gotten it working, but having a full Windows cursor when using the create pad was just a bit distracting in my eyes. This cursor persisted in programs which it is normally absent such as the Windows built-in Sketchpad which is one of the easiest and quickest programs to launch for quick jotting of notes and sketches. I tried changing a few options in both Settings and Control panel, but the Windows cursor remained.
Thank for your help anyways, I'm sure this driver will be useful to other people.