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I have recently got an HTC TyTN II and i have been wanting to watch movies with it. Is there a way to convert movies into a format so the WMP on it will play them or the Video Player because the .avi files wont play on either. If there is a special format to use are there any programs to convert them to that format?
Thanks in advance
James
First off, the HTC Tytn II is the Kaiser, not the Titan
You should use TCPMP to play all your videos because it plays a wide variety of formats. I personally have a few preconverted stuff that play excellently on my phone (in mp4 format).
Honestly, I tried to do what you wanted, and gave up with trying to watch movies via WMP.
Instead, I use the free DIVX player whcih playes .avi.
I then, after trying almost every ripping software out there, ended up with SPB DVD Magic which admittedly is something you have to pay $24.95 for, but it works better than any other program free or share that I tried. It rips copy-protected DVDs (only those I personally own!) at a 25 fps rate with a variety of settings for aspect ratio, etc. and does it in the shortest amount of time and with the best quality to file size ratio I have seen.
The playback on my DIVX player is very nice, even with the Mogul's substandard video playback and internal memory.
With my 16GB memory card I have over 8 full length movies on my ppc (along with every CD Rom I own) and have room for about 5-6 more movies.
I highly recommend the SPB DVD Magic and DIVX player route.
Devin
I use Windows Movie maker or one of the other such things to convert the AVI to a WMP. I also resize it to the PDA screen, 320 X 240. Then I can get a lot of movies on my card and they play well.
Hi there,
I am reasonably new to the HD, and WM in general. Just got my HD and absolutely loving it. I have a few long train journeys coming up though, and am looking to make the most of video/audio playback.
Basically I'm not 100% sure how to do it all. I have some DVDs that I would like to rip to my harddrive and then convert into a suitable file type to be played on my HD. I have DVD Decrypter which I will use to rip them to my harddrive, but I'm not entirely sure of the best way to proceed from there. They will just be in standard DVD format on my harddrive. If anyone can help and give me a quick tutorial and recommend a few programs to use, I would be most appreciative.
Thanks!
Firstly I rip the DVD movie to a Divx format.AVI file, then I use a program on my desktoppc called "PocketDivxEncoder" which converts the .AVI to a compressed format suitable to dump onto my memory card (about 80MB for a 45min TV show with reasonable quality - so on that basis a movie would be arounf 160 - 180MB), then finally use PocketDivx player (downloaded from www.divx.com) to watch fullscreen - works perfect for me, I have a 16gb card and have several completer series of tv shows stored quite happily with really good quality viewing!
Thanks for that. How do you rip the DVD movie into DivX? Sorry, new to all this!
there are several freeware apps that you can use to rip a DVD, I use one called "Shark Ripper", it has numerous options incl. output format - where I select DIVX video compression and MPe audio compression. Take a search on download.com and I'm sure you'll find a suitable freeware DVD ripper!
Hi,
I got some 720p files (mkv and mp4) that (probably) would not work on Xoom and definitely do not work on ma LG dvd player with usb and divix support. Dvd plays avi and normal divix... no HD, no fancy stuff (I got it connected to an old 21" CRT TV - dont have LCD HD).
Question:
What software (free) should I use to convert them to a format that will work on both - Xoom (in future) and dvd player?
Hand brake is pretty good... rock player is a good player for mkv
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it has to be plain avi file in order to play on dvd. Will avi play on xoom?
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it has to be plain avi file in order to play on dvd. Will avi play on xoom?
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WHAT? A DVD is MPEG only http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dvd_video#Container
Also know an AVI is a container not a format. It is about the oldest thing out there videowise introduced 1992 by Microsoft.
Now you may have a DVD player that plays files and supports the DV-AVI container for playback. Never seen one though. Anyway...
If you buy a newer BlueRay player, like one from Samsung, it will support DVDs, MPEG2, H.264, VC-1, AVCHD, DIVX HD, MKV, MP4, WMV9, 3GPP, HD JPEG so you won't have to worry about converting anything more than once.
Can anyone answer this question for me. I have a bunch of bluray rips in .iso format. How can I convert them to load on the xoom?
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WHAT? A DVD is MPEG only http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dvd_video#Container
Also know an AVI is a container not a format. It is about the oldest thing out there videowise introduced 1992 by Microsoft.
Now you may have a DVD player that plays files and supports the DV-AVI container for playback. Never seen one though. Anyway...
If you buy a newer BlueRay player, like one from Samsung, it will support DVDs, MPEG2, H.264, VC-1, AVCHD, DIVX HD, MKV, MP4, WMV9, 3GPP, HD JPEG so you won't have to worry about converting anything more than once.
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actually a ton of dvd players play avi divx/xvid, it's almost hard to find one these days that doesnt.
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Can anyone answer this question for me. I have a bunch of bluray rips in .iso format. How can I convert them to load on the xoom?
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you ripped them to iso? that's kind of strange, never heard of someone doing that before.
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An ISO is actually a mountable image I do not think the Xoom can mount one.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iso_image
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actually a ton of dvd players play avi divx/xvid, it's almost hard to find one these days that doesn't.
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Yes I know just an example. The problem with AVI is people stick so many different things in there or put an AVI extension on a file that is not really an AVI. Many times these days it is actually DivX which is just MPEG-4 Part 2 or 10 anyway. After my last post I started plowing though all the old AVI files on my computer and about the ONLY player that would play 100% of them was VLC.
I also downloaded the Rockplayer ARM7 edition since there is not a 9 out and loaded it on my Zoom. It seems to FC if you hold the Xoom in portrait mode but works fine in landscape. Plays most formats but seems to not run any of my old AVI files.
@OP
Mount the ISOs onto a virtual drive (eg http://www.dvdfab.com/virtual_drive.htm ). Then run Handbrake or whichever app you're using. As long as they can process Bluray's M2TS format, you're peach. May be.
@DebianDog
When people say "AVI", especially ones they didn't make, it's generally a warez version which means XviD/DivX, and MP3 or AC3. Pretty common stuff. @OP: You need a 3rd-party player to play AVI, like the mentioned Rockplayer.
Right...
My player is LG DVX 392H.
I got no idea about specifics of the file but in windows it says .avi and it plays
If you need more information to help me, please let me know how can I get them out of the files in question (I do not have any experience with video files as Windows simply plays the lot so one does not need to worry - klite and all sorted).
Since I plan to get Xoom and I have come to terms with necessity of converting I would prefer the option to have it play on both devices...
Thanks guys!
Ps. Got handbrake but it says only about Apple devices and after few tries id did not work on dvd player (from usb stick) either no file was shown or it said can not play HD content (there was only audio).
I didn't convert them to iso. I uh just received them in iso format if you catch my drift...
@galtom
You don't have to do any conversion for (most) AVIs. Just get a 3rd-party media player. Some AVIs may have AC3 audio tracks which aren't natively supported, but software players like Rockplayer can handle those.
To get video specs, use MediaInfo http://mediainfo.sourceforge.net
@fishtaco254
Most HD ISOs nowaday are either in AVCHD format (likely) or Bluray (M2TS). Either way, you'll need to mount them and convert, or wait until XBMC for Android comes out.
I know that with avi I am (mostly) OK.
But I also have a lot of 720p files described in Windows as Matroska/mkv
These videos do not play on my dvd/usb player and I doubt they would on Xoom.
So .. back to question no 1 - what would be the easiest way to convert them to a format that will be accepted by both devices.
I think I might have the answer:
http://bit.ly/fFDcQ6
"Convert Videos For Android And iOS The Easy Way
By Sahas Katta March 19, 2011 09:19 PMAdd Comment
A question that comes up often? “How do I convert videos for my Android or iOS device?” Apple iPhone users have iTunes for optimizing video, but the program lacks support for many popular formats. On the other hand, Google does not even offer a desktop client for managing multimedia. Our friends at Lifehacker and Tested each featured potential solutions, but I think the following solutions is even better: Miro Video Converter. While there are hundreds of apps that offer similar capabilities, this one is by far the easiest to use, is entirely open source, and actually looks fancy.
How To Convert
Drag a video onto Miro Video Converter.
Select a preset from the drop down menu.
Hit convert, wait a few minutes, and that’s it!
You do not have to deal with aspect ratios, codecs, frame rates, resolutions, or any other technical jargon for that matter. In fact, those options are not even available for reconfiguring. One the progress bar hits 100%, the newly optimized video will appear besides your original file in the same folder.
Supported Devices
Miro Video Converter includes defaults for about eight Android devices and four Apple devices. The Sony PSP is also a preset for those that still use one. I should note that the listed Android smart phones are last generation models. The Atrix, Droid 2, and Droid X, and other recent ones are missing from the list. With that being said, the MP4 preset worked perfectly on the EVO and Thunderbolt. I am also doubtful that the program takes full advantage of the high-resolution playback capabilities of the new iPhone 4 and iPod touch, but converted videos still play without any glitches.
Supported File Formats
I dragged several video files into Miro Video Converter from various sources including Apple iTunes Podcasts, DVD rips, YouTube downloads, Vimeo files, and more. Every file was immediately recognized. For the geeky, the supported formats include AVI, H264, MOV, WMV, XVID, Theora, MKV, and FLV. The program can re-encode them to variations of MP4, Ogg Theora, or WebM.
Other Thoughts
Although I am definitely a fan of Miro Video Converter, I still keep Handbrake on hand. The latter is also open source and offers hundreds of exporting options. Those come in handy at times when you have a device that requires a peculiar resolution or another setting. I would definitely like the team at Participatory Culture Foundation add more presets for recently popular device and possibly even tablets. For the most part, Miro Video Converter should get the job done for most Android and iOS users. The program runs on both Macintosh and Windows, which should cover most grounds too."
http://www.mirovideoconverter.com/
I will give it a shot in few minutes.
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I have converted mkv file into mp4 file. No luck.
Dvd is not playing that + "original" file was 500MB larg after conversion it had over 3GB!!!
It is not working for me... + it has no xoom/android 3.0 pre-set :-(
Maybe next update will change that.
Your DVD player only plays AVI, i.e. DivX+MP3. HandBrake no longer converts to DivX nor AVI, because they're obsolete.
Try using Miro to convert to AVI. You need to resize 720p to standard-def, else the DVD player will choke. If Miro doesn't do this, try another software.
Go here, http://videohelp.com/tools/sections/video-encoders
An alternative is to get a media player that can play MKV.
i think maybe the moboplayer can help you, it supports almost any video formats, and the effect is pretty good.
and rip your DVD or blu-ray? i have used the handbrake, it's great. my friend said she has used a ripper called brorsoft, it has free trial version, also pretty good.
you can have a try
Just download dice player and you can play .mkv files without having to convert them.
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Can anyone answer this question for me. I have a bunch of bluray rips in .iso format. How can I convert them to load on the xoom?
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You can convert them to the videos of avi or mp4 format which is compatible with the Xoom and can be played on most of suitable players.
As for the converter, I recommend you the brorsoft video converter which I'm using now. I'm quite satisfied with the convenient performance, the great interface as well as the quality of the converted videos. I think you can try to convert your iso foles to avi or mp4 format via this converter.
If you have many blu-rays, you can choose the blu-ray ripper which can rip and convert your blu-rays to HD avi or mp4 format. It can save a lot of time.
One thing I must to say is the amazing speed. With the CUDA tech, it si almost 5X faster than those I have used before.
As for the player, I think the mobo player and the rockplayer are the best. I can play all my moives of avi and mp4 format on the two players with full screen. You can try them.
Video formats and convertors
Android plays.mkv files fine.
Mkv is a container ,chose H264 as video codec and AC3 as audio codec.
Some of the best convertors are:
Formatfactory
Super(erightsoft)
Handbrake
all 3 produce excellent files.And all are free.
Handbrake is not obsolete(it was a deliberate decision to drop .avi) as it is now focused for Apple devices.
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I have LG BD390(bed room) and BD570(living room) bluray players connected to HD TVs, and a Verizon 3G Xoom.
I generally RIP my Bluray discs to MKV's using BD-Rebuilder's "movie only, alternate output" and specifying an 8gig output file. While these look great on the TV's, the XOOM can't play them back properly (and lets face it, at 8ig per movie, I wont fit too many on the Xoom)
So, I've used DVDCatalyst to convert DVD's and the home made (as well as downloaded) MKV's into files that I can play on the XOOM using MOBOPlayer. The video files end up in the 2 to 3gig range.
Those same files made with DVDCatalyst will also play back on the LG's across the network, but on my HD TV, don't look as sharp and clear due to the reduced settings which make the file sizes so much smaller.
I haven't tried DVDCatalyst to go from Bluray source to Xoom formatted file yet, as its release notes list "limited support" for this.
dice player
why convert?? use dice player to play 720p mkv!!!
I have a few DVD and Blu-ray rips stored as ISO or mkv on Windows. Is it worth converting them to a smaller file size for storing and playing on the N7? If yes, what format for video/audio should I use and can you please recommend a good an easy to use Windows conversion program? Thanks!
sirxdroid said:
I have a few DVD and Blu-ray rips stored as ISO or mkv on Windows. Is it worth converting them to a smaller file size for storing and playing on the N7? If yes, what format for video/audio should I use and can you please recommend a good an easy to use Windows conversion program? Thanks!
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MX player (and many others) should play mkvs and avis just fine. Try it first, it doesn't take long to copy a video onto the device.
If you encounter problems with said formats, try converting to H.264/mp4, this should be natively supported by android (any many others - its like THE codec to use nowadays )
issak42 said:
MX player (and many others) should play mkvs and avis just fine. Try it first, it doesn't take long to copy a video onto the device.
If you encounter problems with said formats, try converting to H.264/mp4, this should be natively supported by android (any many others - its like THE codec to use nowadays )
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Thanks! Limited space on the device is of concern too. Any recommendations for a free converter program for Windows 7? A Google search comes up with a bunch of paid and what looks like scam converters.
If H.264/mp4 is *the* video codec, what is *the* audio codec to pair it with and *the* free Wnidows conversion software to generate these?
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Thanks! Any recommendations for a free converter program for Windows 7? A Google search comes up with a bunch of paid and what looks like scam converters.
If H.264/mp4 is *the* video codec, what is *the* audio codec to pair it with and *the* free Wnidows conversion software to generate these?
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All my movies were ripped using Windows Media Player. They came in as .avi files.
Those play directly on the Nexus 7 without conversion.
I hated converting movies for cell phones... this is a lot better.
Try Handbrake,
It's converted all the dvd's I've thrown at it recently
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Thanks! Limited space on the device is of concern too. Any recommendations for a free converter program for Windows 7? A Google search comes up with a bunch of paid and what looks like scam converters.
If H.264/mp4 is *the* video codec, what is *the* audio codec to pair it with and *the* free Wnidows conversion software to generate these?
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mpeg4aac, ac3
Usually when you select the desired codec (or profile in some programs - for Android for example) it chooses audio codec automatically, the one that's usually used with chosen video codec.
I recommend xilisoft for converting, it's not free, but it's really hard to get a good free converter. You might wanna try it on linux, just install Ubuntu in a virtual machine, I'm sure there's some freeware converters made for linux
I use BSplayer, it woks on everything i tried and you get subtitles.
/cazrack
cazrack said:
I use BSplayer, it woks on everything i tried and you get subtitles.
/cazrack
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Caz is right, do not convert your movies it is time consuming and unnecessary use BSplayer and VLCplayer they will play anything you throw at it with subtitles and time stretching if needed, VLC supoprts more formats but BS will do for the majority.
Conversion will save storage space on your Nexus. I use HandBrake set to H264, AAC, in an MKV (or MP4) container. With the proper settings a 90 minute DVD takes about 400MB. It takes about 30-40 minutes to convert the original DVD file on an average PC (Intel i3 or i5).
ripbot264 is a great free tool although it requires you install a few other bits of software first, avisynth, ffdshow etc as its basically a front end gui for x264. Once done though it will give you a decent compromise between power and simplicity and works on 64 bit for a small % speed increase on video.
The other option for space limited devices is streaming over your own network using DLNA or upnp which is what I do
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The other option for space limited devices is streaming over your own network using DLNA or upnp which is what I do
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This works OK at home, not so much offline, e.g. the kids using the tablet in the car. I suppose an OTG USB dongle with a big flash drive would do the trick, but I'd like to keep it simple and have the movies on the built-in storage if possible to shrink them and fit more of them. I think the kids care a lot more about enjoying the content than some potential playing artifacts introduced by shrinking, unlike their dad
jinx100 said:
Conversion will save storage space on your Nexus. I use HandBrake set to H264, AAC, in an MKV (or MP4) container. With the proper settings a 90 minute DVD takes about 400MB. It takes about 30-40 minutes to convert the original DVD file on an average PC (Intel i3 or i5).
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Could you please post the "proper settings" you are using? Thanks.
I am using VLC and never had to convert videos. its working just fine for me.
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I am using VLC and never had to convert videos. its working just fine for me.
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Playing any file type is fine, the problem is the limited storage. If a DVD ripped straight to mkv is about 3-4GB, you can't fit much on the device. Not sure what the shrunken target size for such a DVD should be so the quality doesn't suffer too much when played on the N7.
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Could you please post the "proper settings" you are using? Thanks.
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I use HANDBRAKE, just like at least one previous poster, and I've encoded 500+ movies for viewing on both Tablets (N7 and GTab) and smaller PC screens.
I target around 700mb for ~480p, 1gb for ~720p, and 2gb for ~1080p video; but I find -1gb works best for streaming (and I mostly stream via WIFI),
If you're worried bout quality over file size, set the "quality" target to no less than 1000 avg bitrate (kbps), on the "Video" tab. Even a 2700kbps file can get choppy on an N7, so there's no need to aim too high... but it's your call.
Otherwise there should be a "Presets" list on the right side of the main Handbrake window, the "Normal" setting, under regular should be good to start with.
-Then drop in a video,
-check the "Picture" tab to make sure the resolution and cropping are alright
+ I usually use "keep aspect ratio", and no anamorphic, with a modulus of "2"
-read through the "Video Filters" tab to see if any of those might be a good idea (not usually needed)
-make sure the "Video" tab shows H.264 for codec, you can either use the lower standard frame rate (23.976), or the one from the original video, and set your target file size or quality on the right (as described above)
-then hit the "Audio" tab, and choose appropriate audio (i use AAC, Pro Logic II, and 128kbps, with "auto" sample rate)
-add subs if needed on "Subtitle" tab (burn them in to the image if you arent using a Android player that lets you choose subs while viewing)
-then check and see where the file is being outputted, change location/name if needed, and ensure it's being outputted as an MP4, or MKV (nothing odd)
-then either "Preview" the video, "Start", or "Add to Queue"
When you find settings that work well for you, you can "Add" a preset to the presets list, and make it your default... If I remember correctly I had to do this a couple times cause a few of the settings didn't take, so check your preset by closing Handbrake, reopening it, and droppping a file in before you just assume it's all set and ready to go.
You can also skim through the preferences and set default output folders and such.
After you have things the way you want them you should be left to pretty much drop files in, enque them, and then hit start and walk away.
And if you're on linux, holler, I have dual boot with Handbrake on both Ubuntu and Win7, so I can walk ya through either.
I use Freemake
I use Freemake (http://www.freemake.com/) to convert my MKV and ISO files. Just choose the Android mp4 format.
Personally I haven't converted a movie since I moved to android from an iPhone. Personally I just have a 64gb usb on my keyring (which cost about $30), and plug into my N7 with a USB OTG cable when I want to watch movies. The usb connection isn't perfect, but it works, and will save you a lot of time converting movies. On my N7 I use MXplayer and highly recommend it. Great piece of software for free.
If you want to keep them on your N7 then it would be necessary to convert to keep a reasonable amount though.
@rckoegel - Thank you VERY much for the tips. I will have to go back and read your post a few times.
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These are always changing but setting the video quality fairly low is the biggest help for small file size. The quality still appears quite good when viewing.
Another converter that is very handy is XMedia Recode. I use the portable version.
Painless setup:
Set input for DVD or Movie
Drag and drop video or Open DVD/File to convert
Set Output Format Profile to Google and Google Nexus 7
Set output folder
Right click video to encode->add job
Encode
You can tweak the output settings to anything you wish. It is a piece of cake to convert videos and twice as fast as HandBrake.
Hello,
I've tried to search but didn't find an answer.
I'm looking for a way to stream 1080p videos from my PC to android device (Nexus 10 in my case), both on the same wifi lan using N-type router.
I have set a user and password on the PC windows 7, and I can connect to it with my tablet (ES/solid explorer) through the wifi, and stream videos. The problem is this connection type is not fast enough for streaming 1080p videos, so the videos on my tablet lag, shutter, etc.
Any ideas how to solve it? Can I setup a different type of connection/protocol, which will be fast enough for streaming 1080p vidoes?
Any help is appreciated!
Try Plex media server. The android app is $4 (I think) and the PC software is free. The beauty of it is that you can connect to your server from anywhere. I've watched episodes of modern family from the comfort of the bathroom at work without any issues. For high quality video you're going to need to be on Wi-Fi, but you can get great quality video through plex.
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Thank you.
Meanwhile I have found another solution:
- Installing XMBC on my pc and enabling uPNP on it.
- Installing MediaHouse app on my tablet.
uPNP is much faster than the normal Windows SMB, so I can now stream high quality videos without any issue over my wifi.
The only problem is uPNP doesn't support streaming srt subtitles file along with the mkv movie. So I have to copy the srt it locally to the Tablet or embed it to the MKV.
My favorite streaming tool is Emit. www.emitapp.com
They have an Android client, iOS client, and web streamer, and it's a decent-quality transcoder. Totally free.
I have no problems transcribing on an i5-750 that is also a Hyper-V host for 3 VMs, and is running torrents 24/7. It's a dedicated box with a gig connection though, so I have tons of throughput. No problems streaming over LTE on my S4 or over my home connection (50MB comcast)
phishfi said:
Try Plex media server. The android app is $4 (I think) and the PC software is free. The beauty of it is that you can connect to your server from anywhere. I've watched episodes of modern family from the comfort of the bathroom at work without any issues. For high quality video you're going to need to be on Wi-Fi, but you can get great quality video through plex.
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thanks for this man..
TTT. Figured I'd rez this rather than starting a redundant thread.
I gave Plex a shot; I downloaded the Windows App, installed, opened it, but once I tried to navigate to the "Channel Directory" I got this prompt:
Plex Media Server
Waiting on Response...
It never connected to the PMS. I tried some Googles to figure out the problem, but couldn't find anything relevant. So screw Plex.
For now, what I've done is create a Homegroup, and I use ES File Explorer to navigate the Homegroup in the LAN tab. However, there are two things I don't like about this:
The speed is limited. I guess this is an SMB problem. Separately, as a test, I've connected an i5 laptop to this homegroup, and it won't play a 16GB mkv I have of The Avengers over the Homegroup. It's handled any video files I've thrown at it under 5GB, but past that, it appears that the data bandwidth becomes an issue because the video stutters. This couldn't be a shortcoming of the laptop because it could play the files from its native hard drive without issue. Thus, the problem must be the rate of data transferred wireless over the router. So I'm attracted to the uPNP servers.
On Android, it only works for yet smaller files. I'm only able to watch videos that MX Player can handle using SW decoding. This has limited me to low bitrate 480p video. My goal is to be able to watch all my videos and movies on my Xoom or my Droid X. Unfortunately, the Tegra 2 and the ARM V8 processors in these devices aren't very powerful, and the mkv's/mp4's I have aren't specifically encoded for their chipsets. Also, most of my movies are 1080p, and the Xoom is only 1280x800, and the Droid X is 854x480, so there is the additional workload of downscaling. One solution is that I can convert any video I have using a program called "DVD Catalyst", but the conversion rate is ~125% on a minute-per-minute basis, so this is very time consuming. I'd rather that I was able to use my PC's CPU/GPU to decode the video in real time as I watch the video, and stream this over the Homegroup to my phone/tablet. In other words, in principle, I want to use the PC's hardware to do the heavy lifting while the Android device displays the product of that work.
What's the best way to do this? The OP mentioned he uses XMBC and MediaHouse. Is this optimal, or is there a better method for my goal?
Of course SMB is slow, I wrote it on the first post - this was my main problem. It's ok for 720p but not for 1080p.
You can use XMBC and MediaHouse - it will work but will not stream the .srt subtitles. There are other free uPnP options I've found that work with external subtitles, if you're interested.
Anyway, if you have resolution scaling issues that your android device cannot handle on the fly, I suggest you to re-encode the video offline on your PC.
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Of course SMB is slow, I wrote it on the first post - this was my main problem. It's ok for 720p but not for 1080p.
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I suppose I didn't make it clear, but it's because of what you wrote that I was presuming that SMB was my issue. Still, I can play most 1080p content over the WLAN to the laptop; just not the 1080p content with a really high bitrate.
You can use XMBC and MediaHouse - it will work but will not stream the .srt subtitles. There are other free uPnP options I've found that work with external subtitles, if you're interested.
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Have you found desktop server software and an Android app that you prefer to these? Please elaborate if you have.
Anyway, if you have resolution scaling issues that your android device cannot handle on the fly, I suggest you to re-encode the video offline on your PC.
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In part #2 of my post I described why I already use this as an option, but I would prefer not having to do this. This gets to the heart of what I'm trying to learn. Is it possible to play the desktop files on the tablet/phone without offline conversion? I can conceptualize two theoretical ways, but I have no idea- assuming they are even possible- if there is software that would enable me to do this:
(1) Streaming conversion.
Without creating a new, converted file from the source 1080p video, I'm wondering if there is a program that will convert the desktop 1080p video in real time while streaming that over the network to the Android device. Perhaps it wasn't clear, but my PC is powerful enough that most video converts in the DVD Catalyst software at a minimum 1.25x rate (meaning that 5 minutes of video will convert in about 4 minutes). Thus, a real-time conversion stream seems possible since it would take less time to convert a movie than it would take to watch it. This kills the waiting period and also storage issues. Using offline conversion, I have to decide what I want to watch, convert it, then play the converted file (which takes up additional space on my hard drive). If I could convert-in-stream, then I could simply pick whatever video I wanted to watch, and play it without having to wait for it to convert, and I wouldn't have to worry about extra space being used.
(2) Display mirroring.
The PC plays the video as it would on itself in VLC, and somehow mirrors this image (like with NFC) over the network. No conversion; only downscaling, and this shouldn't be a problem because my PC can easily downscale 1080p to 720p on VLC without stutter. Ergo, in this scenario, the Android device becomes basically a computer monitor that is receiving the data stream over a network rather than from an HDMI/DVI/VGA cable. This seems like the simpler option. Anyone know if it's possible?
Hi,
As for your question, I have found a way to stream external srt subtitles along with the movie, using free uPnP.
Apparently, only some uPnP media servers and clients support it. In addition, only some movie players can extract this information when streamed through uPnP. I've found several such uPnP media servers, but most of them require payment after a trial period. However, I've managed to find one that doesn't
So, in order to stream videos with external srt, you need the following:
1. Serviio on you PC.
2. BubbleUPnP on your android device.
3. MX player on your android device.
4. The srt file should have the same name of the movie file, and they have to reside both at the same directory in your PC.
If you want to check your system under heavy or moderate bit rate, you can use this:
http://www.auby.no/files/video_tests/
"birds" is quite heavy. If you get it to work, you won't have any problem with 1080p movies.
Perhaps the term "1080p" movies is not accurate. What really matter is the bitrate. Naturally, 1080p movies requite higher bitrate. So even if you manage to play small-size 1080p movies through smb, I guess that as you wrote yourself, it's because of the lower bitrate.
If you want to make sure where is your bottleneck, copy the movie to your android device and run it locally. you can use "birds" or any other movie you want. If the movie stutter when run locally, then your bottleneck is your android hw. However, don't use SW decoder, use hw decoder. On MX player I use HW+, and on BS player I use the "experimental hw decoding" feature. On my Nexus 10, this is the only way I can handle high bitrate movies.
Regarding what you asked about: I'm sorry, but I am not familiar with a proper way to mirror a high quality video from the PC to the android device. You can try screen sharing/mirror softwares like VNC or TeamViewer, but I don't think they will work with adequate fps for displaying a video.
You're the man, Animor. This is exactly what I needed, and although Servio doesn't "mirror", it does do #1. The word I was searching for there was "transcoding", and their software does just that because I am able to stream all of these 1080p videos flawlessly on my tablet using the Servio + BubbleUPnP (which has a gorgeous UI, btw), and I know for a fact that MX Player-- even with ARMv7 codec support and running H/W+-- couldn't play these files without stutter even when I'd copied them to its local SD. So it's definitely using my PC's processing power.
This is just so amazingly *****ing. I feel like Doc Oc in Spider-Man 2:
"The power of my PC...in the palm of my hand."
I'm glad I could help you
Please note that transcoding on Serviio doesn't run on Generic DLNA profile. So if you are using the generic profile, that's not the explanation for your device able to play the vidoes.
Animor said:
I'm glad I could help you
Please note that transcoding on Serviio doesn't run on Generic DLNA profile. So if you are using the generic profile, that's not the explanation for your device able to play the vidoes.
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Indeed. I spoke too soon forgetting that my "Android Optimized" folder with the movies I'd converted specifically for the Tegra 2 chipset was a subfolder of my greater folder. I tested four movies, and by sheer serendipity, they were all from that subfolder. So I tested the unconverted movies, and, yeah, same problem. MX can't play them using HW/HW+; it's forced to use SW decoding for playback, and it's just too much for the Tegra 2 to handle.
How do I enable a profile that will allow the transcoding that I'm after?
You can choose a profile on one of the tabs on serviio settings. I think it was library.
However I'm not sure you'll find a suitable profile for your device.
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I have used many applications for streaming. 1080p is dream.I even bought a new wifi router for stream. Now i have 1Gbit lan an 300Mbit wifi speed at home.The best result was obtained using Bsplayer and EsExplorer on android and standart network folder in Win7(Ubuntu - better) .
Max play 720p in hw decoding mode.
I suggest to those facing various issues to try out the app ''Emit''. For me, on the same wireless network, it functions well, playing external subtitles just fine.
OK so I've been going down this road on an Android tablet & this seems to work well.
1) BubbleUPNP - connects to my Samsung's AllShare server for my TV on mypc wired into the network.
2) KMPlayer - backwards compatible & it just works with all my files when selecting in bubbleUPNP.
The other way to approach this is IMO using FX File Explorer Pro (local p2p site for unlocked apk) & this enables network support? Again, the media player was what really gave me issues, KWPlayer worked best for me.
Animor said:
Hi,
As for your question, I have found a way to stream external srt subtitles along with the movie, using free uPnP.
Apparently, only some uPnP media servers and clients support it. In addition, only some movie players can extract this information when streamed through uPnP. I've found several such uPnP media servers, but most of them require payment after a trial period. However, I've managed to find one that doesn't
So, in order to stream videos with external srt, you need the following:
1. Serviio on you PC.
2. BubbleUPnP on your android device.
3. MX player on your android device.
4. The srt file should have the same name of the movie file, and they have to reside both at the same directory in your PC.
If you want to check your system under heavy or moderate bit rate, you can use this:
http://www.auby.no/files/video_tests/
"birds" is quite heavy. If you get it to work, you won't have any problem with 1080p movies.
Perhaps the term "1080p" movies is not accurate. What really matter is the bitrate. Naturally, 1080p movies requite higher bitrate. So even if you manage to play small-size 1080p movies through smb, I guess that as you wrote yourself, it's because of the lower bitrate.
If you want to make sure where is your bottleneck, copy the movie to your android device and run it locally. you can use "birds" or any other movie you want. If the movie stutter when run locally, then your bottleneck is your android hw. However, don't use SW decoder, use hw decoder. On MX player I use HW+, and on BS player I use the "experimental hw decoding" feature. On my Nexus 10, this is the only way I can handle high bitrate movies.
Regarding what you asked about: I'm sorry, but I am not familiar with a proper way to mirror a high quality video from the PC to the android device. You can try screen sharing/mirror softwares like VNC or TeamViewer, but I don't think they will work with adequate fps for displaying a video.
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thanks, works now for me!
MarkusOSx said:
thanks, works now for me!
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I like folder music player.
I know I'm resurrecting a long dead thread but I figured everyone here is/was interested in about the same thing, so you may already have found a solution.
Basically it had already been asked earlier as one of two options, but was passed over for the other. Did anyone ever get mirroring the video to work? There's lot of mirror apps out there but I'm looking for a way that will let me play a video on my PC and mirror it directly as is on my phone, while still having full control over the video on my PC. This also let's me further control DTS tracks which gets decoded by my AV receiver instead of my phone, therefore audio isn't an issue, I just need video. Any ideas?