Hi,I myself own an 8gb Nexus 7.But I have come to realise that there is only 5.9GB of usable storage.That is not enough for me since I like to play those high-end games with good graphics like Nova 3,but they take up a lot of space. I was wondering if there was any way to work around this?
Yes I do know that you can use USB OTG. But is there a way to make the system "believe" that it is the actual storage so that I can install the gigantic game data into the USB storage? For example there is GL to SD ,which is an app that you can move the game data to the sd card instead of the internal storage.So I think it should not be a problem for the devs to come up?Please help!!
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Where do you guys usually install your apps to? Are there any benefits in installing to the Storage Card vs. installing in the internal memory of the phone?
Is the phone faster if all apps are installed on the storage card?
some apps definitely would not respond well if you install it in the storage card, especially if the app needs to 'wake up' from the power standby, due to the battery saving mode for external storage.
with X1, the phone storage is plenty that it doesn't make any difference for you to install in phone storage versus external. Upon fresh hardreset, my phone would have at least 204MB after deleting away the demo videos, etc. And this is standard ROM, not custom ROM.
Tri3Dent said:
Where do you guys usually install your apps to? Are there any benefits in installing to the Storage Card vs. installing in the internal memory of the phone?
Is the phone faster if all apps are installed on the storage card?
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The truth is that it is "horses for courses"
If you regard the device as a phone with a bit of residual computer capability, then 300Mb of Storage will last a lifetime
If you regard it as a computer with a phone segment attached, then use the SD card for everything you can. The tnyynt SD tweak for speeding card access is brilliant to the point where I am unable to tell the practical difference between Storage and card use.
I use mine as a work computer with a phone attached. My 16Gb card is already 55% full (ie. just under 9Gb of data and programs) - this cannot fit in Storage.
man what kind of programs and data that you have that takes over 8 gigs on your phone.
music and videos i can understand, programs and data???? i got a 4 gig card and the only program that i have that takes up 1 gig is the maps for tomtom 7.910
hopefully the 32 gig card will be compatable with the x1 in the near future.
c_legaspi said:
man what kind of programs and data that you have that takes over 8 gigs on your phone.
music and videos i can understand, programs and data???? i got a 4 gig card and the only program that i have that takes up 1 gig is the maps for tomtom 7.910
hopefully the 32 gig card will be compatable with the x1 in the near future.
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OK, well 1) as I said, my device is used as a computer with a phone segment attached, so having >8Gb "on my phone" is not really accurate. I have >8Gb on my card (ie. HDD) and growing
2) Music and video ?? None of them, I use hifi and TV for those when I'm home
3) I use the device for geological/geotechnical mapping on a world-wide basis, together with CAD/3D modeling of collected and supplied data. So high-level topo data, drillhole data, outcrop data, survey data, engineering constraints, zillions of reference reports etc etc + the slew of large programs needed to run these data collections
So for me, smaller, faster ROM = better and better
4) you bet I'm hanging out for the 32Gb cards
problem with having too little phone storage is some program use storage as temp
currently i have about 40gb storage free but still
the comic book reader crash often because the .net program in question
unzip the whole comic to some temp dir in phone storage
when it operates and apparently the comic use more then 40gb
would be easy for the programmer to fix so it didn't unzip all or did it to
the sd card but..
I put pretty much all programs that can be installed onto the card on the card... I also have shedloads of files on there mainly for language learning (I am learning Chinese and also have some Russian stuff)... from 16gb I am down to 7.7 and thats only cos I deleted a few tv shows from China...
PS I am reposting this due to the deletion bug thing... I did have a longer post but cant remeber all my witty reply...
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My16GB is pretty much full so I was looking to move some games to my SDCARD only to find this isn't possible. It got me thinking I use a program on PC called Steam Mover which uses branching to move my most played games from my mechanical drive (containing my steam account and most games) to the SSD.
Could something like this work on our Android device? I'm in work now so can't try steam mover myself. I know its a windows program and commands but wasn't sure if it would work.
After reading this I opened up app 2 sd to see about moving some apps from the phone to my SD card. It shows a message saying "The device does not have a real primary external storage, or the primary external storage is emulated. Moving app to SD function may not be supported by this device." I have my old 8gig SD card in that I set up the camera to put the pictures on and with 32gigs on the phone I don't care to move apps at this time. I wonder why it is showing up as being emulated.
Sorry I don't have an answer for you.
Well thanks for trying anyway. Wish the 32gb was put when I got mine!
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I was wondering if anybody could help answer a few questions about the Sprint S4 for me.
Currently I have an HTC Evo 3D, the internal storage is so small that I have made a 4gb ext3 partition on my SD card using Link2SD just to alleviate some of this annoyance. The 32GB counting the 4GB partition is actually almost full.
First of all, is there any word on a 32GB version? I saw some forum threads a while ago about Sprint supposedly not carring the 32+GB versions, but I saw no official word, if there has been one.
And also, how does the 16GB of internal work? The first time I saw a phone with large internal memory was the original Droid RAZR. And it basically partitioned off the majority of the space like a virtual SD card. Most to all apps on it saved to here instead of the actual SD card assuming it was an actual external storage. Does the S4 do this too, or is the entire 16GB (minus obviously what the system partitions take up) used as internal?
The reason I am asking is because I have many apps and games which download anywhere from 50MB to 3 gigs of additional data, and they almost never ask you where to download it, and just use the first "external" space they find, and many are hard-coded to only use that space. Like I said, my 32GB card on my Evo 3D is practically full, I do NOT not want those apps to install that data on the internal memory and fill it up, I want that space to keep the apps installed on, while photos, music, and video, as well as that app additional data, will be on the real SD card. I am planning to get a 64GB card for the S4.
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I was wondering if anybody could help answer a few questions about the Sprint S4 for me.
Currently I have an HTC Evo 3D, the internal storage is so small that I have made a 4gb ext3 partition on my SD card using Link2SD just to alleviate some of this annoyance. The 32GB counting the 4GB partition is actually almost full.
First of all, is there any word on a 32GB version? I saw some forum threads a while ago about Sprint supposedly not carring the 32+GB versions, but I saw no official word, if there has been one.
And also, how does the 16GB of internal work? The first time I saw a phone with large internal memory was the original Droid RAZR. And it basically partitioned off the majority of the space like a virtual SD card. Most to all apps on it saved to here instead of the actual SD card assuming it was an actual external storage. Does the S4 do this too, or is the entire 16GB (minus obviously what the system partitions take up) used as internal?
The reason I am asking is because I have many apps and games which download anywhere from 50MB to 3 gigs of additional data, and they almost never ask you where to download it, and just use the first "external" space they find, and many are hard-coded to only use that space. Like I said, my 32GB card on my Evo 3D is practically full, I do NOT not want those apps to install that data on the internal memory and fill it up, I want that space to keep the apps installed on, while photos, music, and video, as well as that app additional data, will be on the real SD card. I am planning to get a 64GB card for the S4.
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The way samsung does it is actually very anoying. First thing they do is cut off 8.5 gigs of storage, thats your "internal memory" for system stuff. That's untouchable. You then have 9gigs give or take left for apps and the like which is EMULATED external storage. This emulated bit confuses android and so your real external sd card is only usable for movies and music. The only way to put apps on it would be to root your phone and use folder mount (which for some reason isn't working for me yet). So to sum it up:
16gb +ext sd card (lets say 32 gb)
8ish gb- system internal
9ish gb-apps EMULATED external
32 gb- movies, music, books/media BUT NO APPS UNLESS YOU ROOT REAL external
AAAAUUUUGGGHHHHH!</CharlieBrown>
Wow, I can not possibly think of a worse way for Samsung to handle it. The low internal memory giving me problems installing and updating apps was a major reason for wanting to upgrade. With this, it means I actually have less space for apps than my current phone, since I can't actually install to SD and the apps that download hundreds of megs to gigs of additonal data will be downlioading it to the internal instead of external.
I... honestly have no idea which phone to get now.
I know the Sprint S4 is unlocked, is there any way to use rooted tools or a custom rom to just make the memory internal and make it mount a SD as an actual SD? I am worried that unofficial roms might be lacking in features or glitchy.
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AAAAUUUUGGGHHHHH!</CharlieBrown>
Wow, I can not possibly think of a worse way for Samsung to handle it. The low internal memory giving me problems installing and updating apps was a major reason for wanting to upgrade. With this, it means I actually have less space for apps than my current phone, since I can't actually install to SD and the apps that download hundreds of megs to gigs of additonal data will be downlioading it to the internal instead of external.
I... honestly have no idea which phone to get now.
I know the Sprint S4 is unlocked, is there any way to use rooted tools or a custom rom to just make the memory internal and make it mount a SD as an actual SD? I am worried that unofficial roms might be lacking in features or glitchy.
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Well this is an issue with all honeycomb plus android phones. Google is trying to phase out the external sd card while increasing the internal memory. Well that's all good and fine EXCEPT that we are right in the middle of the phase out process where the sd cards are too small for that. 2-3 years from now googles plan will work, but samsung has to be on board for that to happen. For now the only thing you can do is use folder mount or wait for ext2intSD script. It will swap it so your external sdcard works as your internal and vice versa. However, we will have to wait for that to be released.
I don't get what phasing out the SD slot has to do with emulating the external SD storage when all apps can work on internal storage anyway.
What is folder-mount? And I tried link2sd on my evo 3d and its kinda problematic, I wanted to get AWAY from these problems by upgrading.
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I don't get what phasing out the SD slot has to do with emulating the external SD storage when all apps can work on internal storage anyway.
What is folder-mount? And I tried link2sd on my evo 3d and its kinda problematic, I wanted to get AWAY from these problems by upgrading.
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The reason why is that android its self, the code that google supplies, has to create partitions in order for it to work with only one internal sdcard so that the average user does not corrupt the system somehow. The emulated external storage is what google expects you to use so that you can't mess up. However, samsung just adds in an sdcard without changing anything which means its not set up correctly. This is a problem with all new sd card phones and finally think of folder mount as a better link2sd
But aren't the system partition and the internal storage partition separate partitions? I don't understand why the rest of the memory outside of the system partition needs to be an emulated external instead of just being an internal storage partition like on phones that do not have a large amount of internal memory.
Also, why do we have to link folders or use link2sd scripts and other such work-arounds? Can't we re-partition the internal memory with a custom recovery or through the bootloader?
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not work brother
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.... what? I have no idea what that means.
So, can the phone be repartitioned if you have root access? And is only the Sprint version partitioned like this, or all of them?
So i Got an S4. I rooted it and im running stock 4.2.2 XXUBMEA firmware. With the new update, i can move apps to the SD card, but App data is still internal. you cannot move app data. About 7gb of my internal memory is already taken up by android which leaves me with around 9.23gb left. after installing all my necessary apps, i have left about 7.3gb internal storage left. The problem is here. Most HD games these days have Data files around 1gb. for example, games like Asphalt 7, Batman and GTA Vice City. they all have sd data of around 1gb. And as you know, on the s4, unfortunately, you can only put Sd data on the internal storage and you cannot put it in the micro SD card. So, in order to play these HD games, i have to use my internal memory. By doing this, i wont have much memory left and will probably run out of memory after 3-5 HD games. What do you think is the best solution for this? How do i play a lot of HD games on my device? After all, I paid a lot for this phone. I hope i did not waste my money. Remember i am rooted. Is there anything i can do?
Thanks
Help will be much appreciated.
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So i Got an S4. I rooted it and im running stock 4.2.2 XXUBMEA firmware. With the new update, i can move apps to the SD card, but App data is still internal. you cannot move app data. About 7gb of my internal memory is already taken up by android which leaves me with around 9.23gb left. after installing all my necessary apps, i have left about 7.3gb internal storage left. The problem is here. Most HD games these days have Data files around 1gb. for example, games like Asphalt 7, Batman and GTA Vice City. they all have sd data of around 1gb. And as you know, on the s4, unfortunately, you can only put Sd data on the internal storage and you cannot put it in the micro SD card. So, in order to play these HD games, i have to use my internal memory. By doing this, i wont have much memory left and will probably run out of memory after 3-5 HD games. What do you think is the best solution for this? How do i play a lot of HD games on my device? After all, I paid a lot for this phone. I hope i did not waste my money. Remember i am rooted. Is there anything i can do?
Thanks
Help will be much appreciated.
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Hi,
Use FOLDERMOUNT
This the only way
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Hi,
Use FOLDERMOUNT
This the only way
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Thank you very much .
I installed a game on my Verizon S5 (xcom enemy unknown.) Since its such a big game, I wanted to move it and run it from my SD card. But my phone will only move about 60mb of the 3.72gb of game data. How can I move all of it over to the SDcard? I only have 10.6gb of internal space available for applications and games... surely this cannot be right.
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I'm afraid that's as good as it gets without a custom ROM.
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I installed a game on my Verizon S5 (xcom enemy unknown.) Since its such a big game, I wanted to move it and run it from my SD card. But my phone will only move about 60mb of the 3.72gb of game data. How can I move all of it over to the SDcard? I only have 10.6gb of internal space available for applications and games... surely this cannot be right.
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You may be able to do it with an On The Go (OTG) adapter and an external USB drive (thumb drive). I have tried using an OTG and thumb drive and it worked like a charm, but I wasn't playing games.