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i got an unmodded and locked TMOUS hd2. i'm new to modding. is it possible to remove any unnecessary background daemons or services in order to save battery life? if so, how?
All you need to do is disable them - or try a custom rom there are minimal roms out there for you. They have great battery life and speed.
If however your battery life is the issue, just disable BT, 3G, internet and reduce your screen time to a minimum, that will have a big effect on the battery
johnerz said:
All you need to do is disable them - or try a custom rom there are minimal roms out there for you. They have great battery life and speed.
If however your battery life is the issue, just disable BT, 3G, internet and reduce your screen time to a minimum, that will have a big effect on the battery
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you said i can disable the services or background daemons. but how do i do this?
Hello all.
First off, bear with me if this has been discussed before, I have searched on google and in previous threads here (including the amazing 58.5 hr standby and 6 hr. usage thread) but I cannot find the culprit of the huge Android OS drain.
The battery lasts about 4.5 hrs of screen on time , which is pretty neat but nowhere near what other people are reporting. I know the battery needs to go through a few cycles before reaching its full potential, but the Android OS drain is what bothers me. Please note that I am unrooted due to warranty issues and an unreliable rootchecker.
I have done the following:
Disabled bloatware
Disabled LG MIT (P.S Do you recommend me to change other settings from the hidden menu?)
Disabled auto sync and backup in the settings menu.
Disabled Google Location services from Google Settings, although I kept the location settings in the settings menu due to widget.
I installed Lux to prolong battery life and it only operates upon waking the device.
Installed BBS and Wakelock detector
BBS shows 154 partial wakelocks in just 3 hours of standby from WifiOffDelayIfNotUsed and NetworkLocationLocator 191 partial wakelocks.
Wakelock detector shows a fair amount of Facebook wakelocks (86 in 3 hours - could that be the culprit?) and Viber with 21 wakelocks. This makes me miss Greenify - damn!
To round this off, can anybody please give me advice on how to solve this drain? As previously mentioned I am not willing to root it just yet. Feel free to include perfomance boosting tips as well if you have any
Thanks in advance.
vPro97 said:
Hello all.
First off, bear with me if this has been discussed before, I have searched on google and in previous threads here (including the amazing 58.5 hr standby and 6 hr. usage thread) but I cannot find the culprit of the huge Android OS drain.
The battery lasts about 4.5 hrs of screen on time , which is pretty neat but nowhere near what other people are reporting. I know the battery needs to go through a few cycles before reaching its full potential, but the Android OS drain is what bothers me. Please note that I am unrooted due to warranty issues and an unreliable rootchecker.
I have done the following:
Disabled bloatware
Disabled LG MIT (P.S Do you recommend me to change other settings from the hidden menu?)
Disabled auto sync and backup in the settings menu.
Disabled Google Location services from Google Settings, although I kept the location settings in the settings menu due to widget.
I installed Lux to prolong battery life and it only operates upon waking the device.
Installed BBS and Wakelock detector
BBS shows 154 partial wakelocks in just 3 hours of standby from WifiOffDelayIfNotUsed and NetworkLocationLocator 191 partial wakelocks.
Wakelock detector shows a fair amount of Facebook wakelocks (86 in 3 hours - could that be the culprit?) and Viber with 21 wakelocks. This makes me miss Greenify - damn!
To round this off, can anybody please give me advice on how to solve this drain? As previously mentioned I am not willing to root it just yet. Feel free to include perfomance boosting tips as well if you have any
Thanks in advance.
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I don't know how to solve the problem, but I can tell you this regarding root: Flashing a KDZ file after doing a full factory reset makes the roottripper reset too, including a showing of UNROOTED in the download mode.
Awesome news! Makes me reconsider rooting my device. I would still want to know what I can do without rooting. Thanks a lot for the info ?
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Use Better Battery Stats to see exactly what is causing wakelocks and GSam Battery Monitor to see what's using other things.
"A huge amount of battery" is meaningless without context. If it says "50%" but that's .5%/hr, it means NOTHING else was doing anything really.
Disable KnockON, then Android OS will shrink to a few percents in your statistics.
I have tested it out, KnockON is causing the most part of Android OS.
Via LG G2
Wifioffdelayifnotused can be caused by going in and out of service. Disable optimizing in Wi-Fi, disable disconnect on low signal, set sleep policy to never.
vPro97 said:
Awesome news! Makes me reconsider rooting my device. I would still want to know what I can do without rooting. Thanks a lot for the info ?
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khaytsus said:
Use Better Battery Stats to see exactly what is causing wakelocks and GSam Battery Monitor to see what's using other things.
"A huge amount of battery" is meaningless without context. If it says "50%" but that's .5%/hr, it means NOTHING else was doing anything really.
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well. As stated in OP I am using BBS but I will try out Gsam battery.
You've got a point there, but I'm not seeing 24 hours of standby, which annoys me. A side note- if there was no' something' draining my battery wouldn't it show as "device is idle" rather than android os?
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Disable KnockON, then Android OS will shrink to a few percents in your statistics.
I have tested it out, KnockON is causing the most part of Android OS.
Via LG G2
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Thanks for the tip. I am well aware that knock on uses up some battery but I don't recall the people getting 6 hrs of usage and 50 hrs of standby disabling this feature. Anyway I wouldn't disable this feature even if it would give me am extra hour of usage (unless in dire need) ??
And to the last post (which I forgot to quote) WiFi is set enabled in standby and the other option is disabled. The only thing I have checked in the advanced WiFi settings is lower battery consumption when device is using WiFi. Thanks for clarifying though.
It seems like. Android os is a mystery ?
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Delete.
The cpu power consumption is the biggest problem~
I had read a Chinese thread that CPU quality is the major problem causing this huge battery drain. Qualcom classified 7 quality levels. Slow, nominal, fast, very fast, ultra fast,....from class 0 to 6.(higher is better). the higher class quality means that cpu can use lower voltage to reach higher frequencies. The difference between C 6 and 0 is about 0.15V,,, :crying:
PS: [email protected](0.95V Max)/ [email protected](1.1V Max)
There has been some improvement but the phone was awake for 42 minutes more than screen on time . I posted some screenshots.
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Steamer86 said:
Wifioffdelayifnotused can be caused by going in and out of service. Disable optimizing in Wi-Fi, disable disconnect on low signal, set sleep policy to never.
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I'd say leave wifi optimization, set sleep policy to any other than never, and turn off the feature that turns wifi off if the access point you're connect doesn't have internet access. Or try aosp
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If you're connected to more Wi-Fi than cell signal, leaving this on will do nothing to increase battery usage, more so increase it. Counterintuitive, but it is what it is. This is Google software itself, not hardware. Learn before you post BS. The phone uses more battery searching and refreshing for 4G data signal than it ever will on Wi-Fi. Do what this guy says if you spend most the day in Wi-Fi, and watch those counts hit the roof. If your of Wi-Fi most the day, just turn it off until you are, all good. Why waste battery when unneeded.
I got a S4 i9505 with albe95 S6 port ROM. I've tweaked the settings to pretty much disable all background activity so there's no syncing, no GPS, no bluetooth no NFC etc. I've got airplane mode on 24/7 with WiFi turned on. I've also installed Greenify and System Tuner Pro (I have root) and disabled a few GooglePlayServices services and stuff. Followed a tutorial for that. Looking at the settings app, I've got 40% battery remaining and have been on battery for 2 hours 40 minutes. Probably slept for 30-45 minutes and when it was on, I go on chrome, mess with Theme engine and some other light stuff. Now I just waited 20-30 minutes and it drained 4% screen off. I waited 5 minutes and it drained 1%. Is there an app that runs in the background and I leave my phone screen off overnight to tell me what processes are using the most battery and then disable those processes? I've tried to google it but none have helped. I've disabled Gtalk and a bunch of other processes, no luck. About to download Titanium and mess around with Greenify a bit more. I'm new to Android, reason I don't like Android is it's battery life. My iPod touch 5's 910mAh battery lasts 5 hours watching YouTube, surfing the web and light gaming (Clash of Clans) while the S4's 2600 mAh battery lasts 3-4 hours. Triple the size but less battery life?
Android's root is a lot more complicated than iOS, we just go to Cydia and download tweaks like an app from the Play Store. But yeah, any apps you guys use to check background processes using battery?
It's called BetterBatteryStats.
I don't think you will find it on the play store. Or if it's free there. There is a free version on the forums here. And I mean free, not cracked or anything.
And there's more to battery life than just mAh. Your iPod has a smaller screen and a smaller resolution. Which means less work for the GPU.
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It's called BetterBatteryStats.
I don't think you will find it on the play store. Or if it's free there. There is a free version on the forums here. And I mean free, not cracked or anything.
And there's more to battery life than just mAh. Your iPod has a smaller screen and a smaller resolution. Which means less work for the GPU.
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Right so I messed around with BBS and I discovered the different tabs. Looked at Kernel wakelocks and Partial wakelocks. Did some research and PowerManagementService is a big one. Was told to go to partial wakelock and found RILS and RILJ0. Did some more research on that and it's related to radio and wireless stuff. (Radio Interface Layer) Did some MORE research and apparently my modem is the problem. Someone suggested me to get "GetRIL" from Play Store and see if the two ... things match but GetRIL either isn't compatible or it doesn't work. Now problem is, I have Airplane mode on 24/7 and WiFi enabled so cellular should b turned off, right?
With airplane mode on yes, network should be turned off.
The modem can be changed anyway. So maybe you just have to update the modem.
Also try a different rom.
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With airplane mode on yes, network should be turned off.
The modem can be changed anyway. So maybe you just have to update the modem.
Also try a different rom.
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I read that ROMS and kernels have no affect on battery life other than disabling sync and background stuff in the settings app. Only time it will affect battery life is if it's badly written.
So if cellular is turned off, why is "Cell Standby" the second most draining thing behind "Screen"? All the websites I looked at just say "Turn airplane on and wifi on" but what I'm really looking for is to completely disable cellular with "System Tuner", or do something with root permissions to force stop cellular. I've got no SIM card installed.
Not true. Both kernel and ROM can have a significant effect on battery life. For the kernel, a custom kernel can improve battery life by allowing the processor to be undervolted, thus using less power per CPU cycle. The ROM could also have battery-saving features, e.g. Doze in Android 6.0. The ROM could also have battery-sapping bugs.
The modem is separate from the ROM and kernel. It will have its own enhancements and is updated frequently, so you should update it.
If you dial *#*#4636#*#* you should get to a menu where you have the option to turn off radio. But that's probably the same thing as airplane mode.
And roms and kernels do have an impact on battery life. I once flashed a kernel that drained my battery very quickly. The same rom without that kernel was fine and with great battery life.
So, as I said, consider changing your rom. Just to see if it is rom related or not.
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Not true. Both kernel and ROM can have a significant effect on battery life. For the kernel, a custom kernel can improve battery life by allowing the processor to be undervolted, thus using less power per CPU cycle. The ROM could also have battery-saving features, e.g. Doze in Android 6.0. The ROM could also have battery-sapping bugs.
The modem is separate from the ROM and kernel. It will have its own enhancements and is updated frequently, so you should update it.
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I updated my modem and bootloader from the same thread as my ROM, not sure if it did anything but I've managed to raise battery life from ~4 hours to ~7 hours just non-stop google chrome, theme-ing, downloading apps and trying to get better battery life. Also watched some YouTube videos.
I actually flashed this ROM because of themes, specifically the Avengers theme. Also there's a few pure black themes, did some research and pure black actually gives your battery ~40% more juice. Real world usage will probably be at least 15-20% more battery. But I'm still trying to find out how to fully disable cellular, anybody know? I've got root and Titanium Backup. I'm not sure what to freeze though and "Cell standby" continues to be the second most draining thing in the settings app.
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If you dial *#*#4636#*#* you should get to a menu where you have the option to turn off radio. But that's probably the same thing as airplane mode.
And roms and kernels do have an impact on battery life. I once flashed a kernel that drained my battery very quickly. The same rom without that kernel was fine and with great battery life.
So, as I said, consider changing your rom. Just to see if it is rom related or not.
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Dialing that says "Not registered with network" because I have no SIM installed. Cellular would kill my battery but even without a SIM, cellular still is active because of emergency.
I've googled everything I can think of, within 2 days I've increased my battery by at least 60% but cellular is driving me nuts. It's using ~20 of my battery while using my phone, that's 20% plus another ~20% once I find a way to get a pure black theme that works in third-party apps as well for my AMOLED display. Also, titanium backup isn't able to convert Google Play Services or GSF into a app so I can greenify it. It just processes and processes.
There is no theme that can make all apps black. Dark material makes many apps pitch black, but it's for CM based roms only.
You can get the pro version of greenify and maybe xposed. Then you can greenify system apps. Including Google play stuff. But greenify works only when screen is off. When screen is on, the greenified apps will run again.
Or use titanium backup to freeze everything Google play related, until you need it. But doing so will require you to input your gmail account again.
You might also freeze the phone app and anything else related to network. Since you're not going to use the phone for calls. Maybe that will solve cell issue.
Right, I have no idea how I did it but my phone for the past hour and a half has not dropped a single percent and has mostly been in deep sleep. No more wakelocks too, only thing I noticed was a alarm from Google in BBS but didn't mind that too much. Excited to see how much it will drop overnight.
Also, do you know the largest battery for the S4 that I can buy on amazon.ca? I don't want a case or a separate battery, I just want a battery that's more than 2600 mAh. So far, I think the ZeroLemon 3000 mAh battery is the biggest but I heard it's got no NFC. I don't use NFC or anything wireless other than WiFi but could you give me a quick explanation of what this does cause apparently it's a part of the battery itself.
You know that thing where you put two phones together (back to back) and it transfers data from one phone to the other? That is NFC. You can basically send web pages, app pages in the google play store and phone numbers with it. Just bring whatever you want to send on the screen and touch your phone on another phone to send it.
You can't sent actual apps and files.
The connection is established through connectors on the battery. That's why it won't work if the battery doesn't have one. It also is a method to verify the autenticity of batteries. Fake batteries don't usually have working NFC.
Now, the biggest S4 battery I heard of is about 9000 mAh. The second is 7500 mAh. I don't know if you can find them on Amazon.ca.
Use amplify and limit all "safe to limit" wakelocks.
So I've had the 6p for about a month now and I'm absolutely loving the phone, but I have one huge issue which is the battery life. I read online that this phone is getting 6+ hours SOT, and every charge cycle I check my stats and I'm getting like barely 3 hours SOT. I feel like this shouldn't be happening and was wondering if anyone could clue me in on maybe something I'm doing wrong. I am rooted and running the latest Chroma and also using the latest elementalX kernel. I have Xposed installed which i feel shouldn't really be affecting battery life too much. I have amplify and greenify which should be boosting battery life but those are also not working. What I do on my phone is all day snapchatting, sometimes checking twitter and some would say heavy texting. If anyone could tell me why my battery isn't getting anything near the average it should be getting, or has any suggestions it would help lots!! Sorry for the long post, but i wanna resolve this issue
Hey, charge your phone to 100% (leave it charging for half a hour after it says that it's full). Then use it normally, and when it's almost empty, take screenshots of battery statistics and post here.
Also, what are your settings? Brightness, are you using 4G data constantly etc.
What I've read, Greenify messes up Doze.
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So I've had the 6p for about a month now and I'm absolutely loving the phone, but I have one huge issue which is the battery life. I read online that this phone is getting 6+ hours SOT, and every charge cycle I check my stats and I'm getting like barely 3 hours SOT. I feel like this shouldn't be happening and was wondering if anyone could clue me in on maybe something I'm doing wrong. I am rooted and running the latest Chroma and also using the latest elementalX kernel. I have Xposed installed which i feel shouldn't really be affecting battery life too much. I have amplify and greenify which should be boosting battery life but those are also not working. What I do on my phone is all day snapchatting, sometimes checking twitter and some would say heavy texting. If anyone could tell me why my battery isn't getting anything near the average it should be getting, or has any suggestions it would help lots!! Sorry for the long post, but i wanna resolve this issue
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Do you go off and on your phone a lot? Like check it, lock it, check it again? I guess stop starting would describe it? If so, then 3 hours is the expected screen on time for that usage. On constant usage you would get 4 hours+, for sure.
TonzaTheChosenOne said:
Hey, charge your phone to 100% (leave it charging for half a hour after it says that it's full). Then use it normally, and when it's almost empty, take screenshots of battery statistics and post here.
Also, what are your settings? Brightness, are you using 4G data constantly etc.
What I've read, Greenify messes up Doze.
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dannyqanaah said:
So I've had the 6p for about a month now and I'm absolutely loving the phone, but I have one huge issue which is the battery life. I read online that this phone is getting 6+ hours SOT, and every charge cycle I check my stats and I'm getting like barely 3 hours SOT. I feel like this shouldn't be happening and was wondering if anyone could clue me in on maybe something I'm doing wrong. I am rooted and running the latest Chroma and also using the latest elementalX kernel. I have Xposed installed which i feel shouldn't really be affecting battery life too much. I have amplify and greenify which should be boosting battery life but those are also not working. What I do on my phone is all day snapchatting, sometimes checking twitter and some would say heavy texting. If anyone could tell me why my battery isn't getting anything near the average it should be getting, or has any suggestions it would help lots!! Sorry for the long post, but i wanna resolve this issue
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The screenshots could indeed be useful.
As you described, you use snapchat allot. Snapchat is a real battery drainer. It decreases screen time allot, because when snapchat is open, it enables both front and rear camera and gps and maybe even more things that I'm not aware about. So basically it enables everything thats power hungry on this device. If you want to keep snapchatting allot, I don't think you'll will get to 6 hours sot.
Maybe you can use a custom kernel. I personally use the latest Franco Kernel, that kernel has tweaked some stuff so the phone uses the battery friendly cores more than the power hungry cores, without having noticeable performance loss.
But as said a screenshot would be nice, maybe you can install better battery stats (it's on xda) for even more advanced stats.
And remove amplify and greenify, you get the same or better battery results, but keeping the phone more functional.
TonzaTheChosenOne said:
Hey, charge your phone to 100% (leave it charging for half a hour after it says that it's full). Then use it normally, and when it's almost empty, take screenshots of battery statistics and post here.
Also, what are your settings? Brightness, are you using 4G data constantly etc.
What I've read, Greenify messes up Doze.
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I never use 100% brightness usually only at about 30%-70%. And yes I am always using data as I need emails to be sync'd and have many social media notifications.
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Do you go off and on your phone a lot? Like check it, lock it, check it again? I guess stop starting would describe it? If so, then 3 hours is the expected screen on time for that usage. On constant usage you would get 4 hours+, for sure.
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Umm, well i get texts so I respond to them and then lock my phone again but yes I am turning the display on and off, but isn't that what most people do?
wietse1988 said:
The screenshots could indeed be useful.
As you described, you use snapchat allot. Snapchat is a real battery drainer. It decreases screen time allot, because when snapchat is open, it enables both front and rear camera and gps and maybe even more things that I'm not aware about. So basically it enables everything thats power hungry on this device. If you want to keep snapchatting allot, I don't think you'll will get to 6 hours sot.
Maybe you can use a custom kernel. I personally use the latest Franco Kernel, that kernel has tweaked some stuff so the phone uses the battery friendly cores more than the power hungry cores, without having noticeable performance loss.
But as said a screenshot would be nice, maybe you can install better battery stats (it's on xda) for even more advanced stats.
And remove amplify and greenify, you get the same or better battery results, but keeping the phone more functional.
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I've removed greenift and amplify, I'll post my screen shots once I get them Thanks for the help so far guys
Also try this:
Go to Settings > Location > Menu > Scanning > Wi-Fi scanning > disable
Go to Settings > Location > Menu > Scanning > Bluetooth scanning > disable
This was the first thing I did upon unboxing my precious.
So after doing what you guys told me to do I have gotten an extra hour out of the battery. Although yesterday I didn't use my phone as much as I usually do, due to being busy. Do you guys think this is the best its gonna get?!
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Also try this:
Go to Settings > Location > Menu > Scanning > Wi-Fi scanning > disable
Go to Settings > Location > Menu > Scanning > Bluetooth scanning > disable
This was the first thing I did upon unboxing my precious.
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Just did this! Thanks I never knew about those settings
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Just did this! Thanks I never knew about those settings
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Glad to help! If you do a YouTube search, there's a lot of tips to optimize our phone.
Hi everyone, I'm a new user and I'm looking for a rom to help my phone with battery power. I was looking for an optimized and specific rom to optimize battery life. I can't post in the ROM section I hope you can help me.
Thank you so much.
Depending what stock firmware/software you're on rn, choose the right custom ROM, and then maybe use a custom kernel like ThunderStorm Kernel. Supposed to be a battery saver kernel, haven't tested just yet myself
Use a stock based ROM and a kernel that underckocks. AOSP and other ports will not be as efficient with battery in general. Lower clock speed generally improves battery life although keep "race to idle" in mind. Ur ROM and kernel are not the only things that affect battery life. Apps like nap time, Greenify, force doze, sysconfig patcher (for Magisk) can improve standby battery drain whilst having a dark mode/theme can help with screen on battery drain. Having better reception can improve battery life. If you don't use WiFi, Bluetooth or location then having them off can improve battery drain. Background apps/ bloatware can drain battery so limiting background apps/ removing bloat can help. Disabling notifications for apps u don't need them for can help. If u don't like using ur phone as a phone then I know alot of XDA members use airplane mode intermittently. This is just the tip of the iceberg and you'll need to comb through XDA to get more details. There are a few posts dedicated to battery saving too. Keep in mind that some of these strategies can affect functioning of your phone and it's all a balancing act between function and battery. My philosophy is to make my phone not waste any battery while still keeping all the functionality I use. Good luck.