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Opera Mobile 11.1 Update, preferred browser; Flash support and User Agent changeable!

I don't know if you guys know already, but Opera Mobile browser has been updated to 11.1, bringing along a whole lot of goodies, including flash support and user agent changes.
One thing I did notice was that typing lag on facebook seemed to have diminished, this was on desktop view, however still unable to type through some pages with "disqus"
I also found HD 720p videos on youtube has greatly improved! It might be just me, but frames seem to be a whole lot better as opposed to dolphin HD and stock browser.
Frames also drop a bit when viewing full screen 720p in browser, but its watchable.
A link to change log can be found here: http://my.opera.com/operamobile/blog/2011/06/30/opera-mobile-11-1-has-arrived
Temporary Fix to search bar always going to mobile search (must apply apply every time you reset Opera), Credit to iCracked
Hey everyone, I have found a fix for those of you frustrated with the old google mobile search. once you have switched UA to desktop, go to google.com manually, it should load up the full site. Now, using your finger, press and hold over the google.com (website's) search bar, to bring up the menu. Now select "add search engine" then go to your browser search bar and tap the little google icon to bring up a list of search providers and select the new google one, be sure to delete the old one to avoid confusion.
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youtube.com/my_speed doesn't play in 720p mode - 0fps
I'm running prime 1.5 with netformer kernel @ 1.5GHz

Adkinson said:
youtube.com/my_speed doesn't play in 720p mode - 0fps
I'm running prime 1.5 with netformer kernel @ 1.5GHz
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yes, I noticed that too, but I made some video comparisons with a few 720p videos that I watched on different browsers, and it seems Opera seems to perform better. Only my judgement though, and I'm judging on real world performance, not an in app browser test to judge what I can see.
I am running Honeycomb 3.1 stock unrooted

and its fast!!!! not the flash. everything else. no keyboards lag ... Google you need to learn something or maybe buy opera.

yizhaq79 said:
and its fast!!!! not the flash. everything else. no keyboards lag ... Google you need to learn something or maybe buy opera.
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Opera is known to introduce its own optimizations, so that's why it's the best in terms of Javascript performance showing zero lag in text input. Finally, Flash support is available! How did they manage to do that without Honeycomb source code?

memory usage is pretty bad tho. 170mb right now on xda wtf?

I'm guessing that the Flash support doesnt work with the hacked/hulu Flash? Opera isn't picking up my Flash but it works in every other browser...

Seems to work well and without any redraw issues when scrolling quickly. Good spot.

nice...will have to give it a try when i get home.
Last night i did a second reset. trying to run my tablet without any downloads for the moment and monitoring performance.
disabled javascript, flash on demand, and the browser was beautifully working. opened up links super fast, then.........
i hit the back button (lower left on screen)...the page does nothing. i press again, and this time it takes me 2 pages further than i wanted...damnit
then when i go from landscape to portrait, the damn quick scroll guide (added in 3.1) is stuck in the middle of the page...
all of a sudden..it crashes. no message, no warning, just straight back to home page. wtf... shame, because i love the layout of the stock browser.
But. Opera..here i come

Loving it. It's REALLY quick, feels 4x quicker than the stock browser, and more intuitive too. I also just tried their desktop browser, Chrome killer or what!!!
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Opera keeps on randomly zooming in on certain links when I click them. This is extremely annoying when using the touchpad as the mouse is plenty accurate enough.
Any way to turn this off?

Anyone successfully seeing flash videos in the new Opera using the 10.3 hulu hacked flash?

Google searches from the address bar or search box still use the mobile google site even with the UA set to desktop.

Did they also increase the font size on 11.1? The font size on previous version were much smaller then default browser, and dolphin HD

lehoule said:
memory usage is pretty bad tho. 170mb right now on xda wtf?
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That's precisely why you don't see any redraw while scrolling. The stock browser uses less memory because it doesn't load the whole page, instead only loading the portion of the page that you are currently viewing. This translates to choppy performance because it has to reload the page every time you scroll up or down, but leaves more memory for the rest of the OS to work with.

I hate tabs on this thing. Hidden, huge and ugly.
Also it renders fonts badly (some letters are to close, some are too bold comparing to stock browser or Dolphin).

scrolling is jittery no where as smooth scrolling as default browser

Magnesus said:
I hate tabs on this thing. Hidden, huge and ugly
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I like them out of the way. They are hidden on my desktop that sports a full hd screen, I see no reason to keep them on sight on a "tiny" screen
Anyway, they didn't update Opera link, I was kinda hoping they will, so to get the most out of Opera 11.50....... oh well. One day.

earlyberd said:
That's precisely why you don't see any redraw while scrolling. The stock browser uses less memory because it doesn't load the whole page, instead only loading the portion of the page that you are currently viewing. This translates to choppy performance because it has to reload the page every time you scroll up or down, but leaves more memory for the rest of the OS to work with.
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Oh yea that is wayyyy better. Not like I use all the 748mb anyway
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rilot said:
Google searches from the address bar or search box still use the mobile google site even with the UA set to desktop.
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Hey everyone, I have found a fix for those of you frustrated with the old google mobile search. once you have switched UA to desktop, go to google.com manually, it should load up the full site. Now, using your finger, press and hold over the google.com (website's) search bar, to bring up the menu. Now select "add search engine" then go to your browser search bar and tap the little google icon to bring up a list of search providers and select the new google one, be sure to delete the old one to avoid confusion.

Typing Lag Fix = opera Browser

I Own an Eee Pad Transformer and That Typing lag is Horrendous. Im going to be getting a Gtab 10.1 In the next few weeks and selling my Tab + Dock but thats beside the point. I Made this Thread just for an FYI. for Those who didnt know and wanted a Fix for Typing Lag, Opera Browser Mobile is Perfect. Using Opera Browser Mobile Feels Soo much smoother when typing with NO LAG what so ever. For those who are on ends, You should Try this out. Also an FYI, for people who Think Opera Mobile Just shows Mobile versions of websites, it doesnt. You can set it to a Full Desktop View Now with New Update.
Hope This Helps People out ~ Cheers ~
Edit: Opera Now Supports Flash. Tested and works! yay for updates. Also it Supports desktop without having to go to hidden menu.

"Only Thing Opera is missing is Flash Support."
LOL! That's a pretty major thing to be missing don't ya think?!

akarol said:
"Only Thing Opera is missing is Flash Support."
LOL! That's a pretty major thing to be missing don't ya think?!
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LOL Yeah but they cant without Source since Opera is built Differently. Gotta wait for Google to release it, If they do. Theyre being picky with HoneyComb. still the Smoothness is worlds different. you'll notice the typing difference right away.

Look like the new version opera mobile 11.1 has a agent setting, support flash, and has a exit button. So no need to go into about:config to set the agent. Too bad the font is still pretty small compare to default and dolphin HD. I havent tried out 11.1 but with 11 there was still some lag when typing on this forum.
http://my.opera.com/operamobile/blog/2011/06/30/opera-mobile-11-1-has-arrived

dazz87 said:
Look like the new version opera mobile 11.1 has a agent setting, support flash, and has a exit button. So no need to go into about:config to set the agent. Too bad the font is still pretty small compare to default and dolphin HD. I havent tried out 11.1 but with 11 there was still some lag when typing on this forum.
http://my.opera.com/operamobile/blog/2011/06/30/opera-mobile-11-1-has-arrived
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Strange. I Have no Lag. Maybe its because Im using Thumb Keyboard too. I also turned off all Auto Corrections and grammar corrections.

Been using Opera Mobile for a little while. Love this browser, was bothered by the lack of agent setting, but now that can be turned on. Also was able to watch Flash and that worked good.
Really like the browser alot.

I never had lag on my Opera, what settings did you have?
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Likes
1) typing is indeed much better. no more blue highlights in text boxes which seems to be the cause.
2) text selection is steadier.. the cursor seems to pick the right position more accurately and without the real annoying cursor jumping.
Dislikes
1) when typing this response.. the typing indicator started right in the middle of the reply text box with no way to put it at the top line.
2) font is smaller than stock browser and dolphin HD
3) scrolling is not as smooth as stock browser and dolphin hd
4) loading pages is slower than stock browser and dolphin hd
5) no full screen viewing
6) bookmarks are not as easy to access like dolphin HD
with all that said.. it is such a relief to be able to type without lag and to be able to set the cursor more accurately. I'll stick to opera for now until dolphin or stock gets rid of the lag.

HorsexD said:
Strange. I Have no Lag. Maybe its because Im using Thumb Keyboard too. I also turned off all Auto Corrections and grammar corrections.
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I am also using the thumb keyboard and have xda set to classic view. The lag comes and goes. There is major lag if I have music playing in the background with either default music player or player pro. This lag is on both my TF and 10.1. I havent tried out 11.1 yet, hopefully there lag is gone.

I just started using Opera and the typing is indeed much better. I think everything is crisper looking too. Everything in Dolphin HD seems soft and scrolling in both Dolphin and the stock browser is nothing to brag about. They may scroll, but content loads after.

HorsexD said:
Strange. I Have no Lag. Maybe its because Im using Thumb Keyboard too. I also turned off all Auto Corrections and grammar corrections.
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I have two g tabs, and one is unlocked.
I don't experience any of the keyboard lag that everyone writes about.

[Request] Hcomb Browser Fix

The main app any tablet user uses is the Browser I'd assume and unfortunately its the weak spot on Honeycomb.
Viewing most desktop sites is very unbearable (try facebook, XDA, Google Plus) as the page lags, and text input is very difficult as well (huge lag)
Do any devs have any idea how to improve the speed on this stock browser in custom roms or so, I remember a kernel on the Xoom fixed things
This link has more info:
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=17353

If we could get a fix for this I could finally love my tab.

There is a lot less lag on the bonsai rom, but it's not completely gone. Ultimately google will have to be the to fix it.

theyve never mentioned it /acknowledged it
thats the worrying part

Ya know what actually, as,much as i dont like the look of the browser, opera mobile is the best functioning browser ive ever used. There is no browser lag, it render eveything exactly the way my desktop does. Im very suprised that google cannot mirror whatever opera mobile has done.
Ill give you an example of where opera finally got it right...
Try and do a search on xdas site and see what happens. It opens the text box for a second and then it drops the keyboard. Its never works and it is so annoying.
Now try it on opera mobile. Oh my god, it works!
It doesnt work on dolphin, firefox or any other browser ive tried. Opera mobile it works. Can a super sharp coder figure out a way to take whatever opera has in it and put it in the stock HC browser??

it`strange becouse in some forums is all ok, in other the text is very very slow :-(

EyeAndroid said:
Ya know what actually, as,much as i dont like the look of the browser, opera mobile is the best functioning browser ive ever used. There is no browser lag, it render eveything exactly the way my desktop does. Im very suprised that google cannot mirror whatever opera mobile has done.
Ill give you an example of where opera finally got it right...
Try and do a search on xdas site and see what happens. It opens the text box for a second and then it drops the keyboard. Its never works and it is so annoying.
Now try it on opera mobile. Oh my god, it works!
It doesnt work on dolphin, firefox or any other browser ive tried. Opera mobile it works. Can a super sharp coder figure out a way to take whatever opera has in it and put it in the stock HC browser??
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I tried Opera and everything works great except two things. the first is that often times you will enter text in a text box, and then when you minimize the keyboard to click the submit button, it removes everything you just typed! I had this happen to me about 5 times and then I gave up and uninstalled it. The other issue is mainly a preference, but the tabs suck! Give me real tabs like the stock browser. opera and Firefox have a horrible tab implementation on Android.

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often times you will enter text in a text box, and then when you minimize the keyboard to click the submit button, it removes everything you just typed!
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i hate this thing more of the input lag , when it succeed often i close my browser and don't write more becouse i'm frustrated

Plus I am very tired of getting to the "mobile" version of the websites.
Its a 10 inch Tablet..
Google needs to give this thing a Desktop identity and load the desktop version of the websites. One thing Apple is doing right with the iPad.
Even better get rid of this Chrome Based Android Mobile Browser and put there the real Chrome.

nMIK-3 said:
Plus I am very tired of getting to the "mobile" version of the websites.
Its a 10 inch Tablet..
Google needs to give this thing a Desktop identity and load the desktop version of the websites. One thing Apple is doing right with the iPad.
Even better get rid of this Chrome Based Android Mobile Browser and put there the real Chrome.
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+1
even when I've manually set the useragent to a desktop browser, I still get kicked to the mobile versions of some sites. And sites like...google search, which should know better!
I've tested a bunch of browsers at this point and none of them are perfect. I think dolphin comes closest, but it definitely has little things that are annoying (such as it being way to easy to close the wrong tab)

nMIK-3 said:
Plus I am very tired of getting to the "mobile" version of the websites.
Its a 10 inch Tablet..
Google needs to give this thing a Desktop identity and load the desktop version of the websites. One thing Apple is doing right with the iPad.
Even better get rid of this Chrome Based Android Mobile Browser and put there the real Chrome.
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If you type in about:debug in the browser you can go into the settings and change the uastring setting
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ninja984 said:
If you type in about:debug in the browser you can go into the settings and change the uastring setting
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I know. But after a while is going back to default.
I cant changing and play with the settings every other day.
Plus regular people cannot deal with such advance settings. I personally know 3 people they went with the iPad because of this.

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The main app any tablet user uses is the Browser I'd assume and unfortunately its the weak spot on Honeycomb.
Viewing most desktop sites is very unbearable (try facebook, XDA, Google Plus) as the page lags, and text input is very difficult as well (huge lag)
Do any devs have any idea how to improve the speed on this stock browser in custom roms or so, I remember a kernel on the Xoom fixed things
This link has more info:
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=17353
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I am a little confused. I don't have an issue with the browser or the typing...The pages load and scroll perfect and there is little to no lag at all on my typing. There can be a slight lag at times when i use the Keyboard/Dock but that is it.
Does anyone else have no issue?

browser acts up

Does any body else have trouble with browser, any of them, after being on line for a while? Facebook mostly, screen jump, lag when typing.

soks3d said:
Does any body else have trouble with browser, any of them, after being on line for a while? Facebook mostly, screen jump, lag when typing.
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my browser is a giant SOB, doesn't matter what rom iv been on, stock/custom HC ICS JB ill be browsing and on ever single page especially XDA here ill get the page has stopped responding wait/stop pop up every couple minutes. ill also note that it does the same thing in Chrome and ICS Browser+ and just about every browser ive used

You can't judge any browser by Facebook performance -- they're always changing the code and borking everything up. I actually have some problems with Facebook on my desktop browsers. I use the ICS browser on my A500, but use DolphinHD on everything else. Prior to ICS, I used DolphinHD on my A500, too.

acting up browsers
Thanks for the responses . I realize thatt his not just facebook, if I am on line for 2-3 minutes it gets laggy, typing hesitates bounces back and forth meaning you see the text then you don't.
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You can't judge any browser by Facebook performance -- they're always changing the code and borking everything up. I actually have some problems with Facebook on my desktop browsers. I use the ICS browser on my A500, but use DolphinHD on everything else. Prior to ICS, I used DolphinHD on my A500, too.
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Anyway to fix the lag?! Fantasy basketball LAG

Im seriously thinking about returning the tablet. I've done alot of the fixes and tweaks other people have posted here to fix the lag. Everytime i try to view fantasy basketball on yahoo, it lags tremendously. The only fix ive found for this is turning off javascript but it's annoying to have to turn it on and off while browsing different websites. I've also used different browsers such as dolphin and chrome and it still lags. I do like the multitasking capabilities of the tablet but the lag while browsing websties is a major deal breaker for me. Are there any other people who play fantasy basketball and have a fix?

sholee said:
Im seriously thinking about returning the tablet.
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Okay, now I at least see the lag. I never saw it but this web page is like browsing with brakes. And I compare it with other devices and it's only on the Note that it has such a lag.
So, I will analyze this web page to see what produce this lag.
PS. There exists also an app, maybe this is an solution?!
PPS. When I switch to the desktop view my lag is gone. I got the lag only in the mobile view (stock browser).

Can u check "Force GPU Rendering" in developer setting and tell me if that makes a difference?
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sholee said:
Im seriously thinking about returning the tablet. I've done alot of the fixes and tweaks other people have posted here to fix the lag. Everytime i try to view fantasy basketball on yahoo, it lags tremendously. The only fix ive found for this is turning off javascript but it's annoying to have to turn it on and off while browsing different websites. I've also used different browsers such as dolphin and chrome and it still lags. I do like the multitasking capabilities of the tablet but the lag while browsing websties is a major deal breaker for me. Are there any other people who play fantasy basketball and have a fix?
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Yahoo's new layout is notoriously awful for mobile devices. It takes almost 45 seconds to fully load a page on my old A500 in both Chrome and the AOSP browser. Yahoo did a terrible job. I would not read much into the device's capabilities based on that site only.

locovaca said:
Yahoo's new layout is notoriously awful for mobile devices. It takes almost 45 seconds to fully load a page on my old A500 in both Chrome and the AOSP browser. Yahoo did a terrible job. I would not read much into the device's capabilities based on that site only.
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yeah I know it's most likely on yahoos end but it is one of the main reasons why I bought a tablet so that I didn't have to Web browse on a phone. But it's unfortunate bc fantasy basketball is one of my top sites I view daily to check up on my roster, etc.
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Can u check "Force GPU Rendering" in developer setting and tell me if that makes a difference?
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I checked it and it didn't make a difference.
Is there anyway to keep viewing sites in desktop view? It doesn't lag in desktop view like someone mentioned earlier but Every time I load a new tab or site, desktop view automatically turns off.

sholee said:
Is there anyway to keep viewing sites in desktop view? It doesn't lag in desktop view like someone mentioned earlier but Every time I load a new tab or site, desktop view automatically turns off.
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I don't use the default browser, but I use Opera/ Boat Browser HD and Next Browsers, and for all of them you can trip the User Agent setting to Desktop in their settings. I think Next Browser supports Flash too. Hope this solves your issue.

Srikar_NBK said:
I don't use the default browser, but I use Opera/ Boat Browser HD and Next Browsers, and for all of them you can trip the User Agent setting to Desktop in their settings. I think Next Browser supports Flash too. Hope this solves your issue.
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Dolphin has been crashing constantly in desktop view for some reason... i have no idea. I will try Next browser since it supports flash and see how it goes. This situation is so aggravating.. for a 500+ tablet, I expected better..

sholee said:
Dolphin has been crashing constantly in desktop view for some reason... i have no idea. I will try Next browser since it supports flash and see how it goes. This situation is so aggravating.. for a 500+ tablet, I expected better..
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Opera smooth and fast. Tablet no problem. Because of app still not use all for GPU render.

chanhny said:
Opera smooth and fast. Tablet no problem. Because of app still not use all for GPU render.
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Okay, i've used MOST of the browsers and it's still not working. I've tried Dolphin, Opera, UC, Mozilla, Chrome, and Next. None of them work, while some have a desktop mode feature, for some reason, it does not load my fantasy basketball roster on the site, it scrolls but it only shows the background wallpaper, no images or text.
Can someone with a rooted device tell me if the fantasy basketball site lags or not for them?

sholee said:
Okay, i've used MOST of the browsers and it's still not working. I've tried Dolphin, Opera, UC, Mozilla, Chrome, and Next. None of them work, while some have a desktop mode feature, for some reason, it does not load my fantasy basketball roster on the site, it scrolls but it only shows the background wallpaper, no images or text.
Can someone with a rooted device tell me if the fantasy basketball site lags or not for them?
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First...being rooted doesn't inherently make anything better. It all depends what you do with your root a access.
I went to the yahoo sports page and here are my results.
Stock browser: mobile was terible. Desktop mode was flawless.
Opera Browser: flawless in both mobile and desktop
Chrome browser: flawless in both mobile and desktop
Dolphin browser: slightly more lag in mobile but perfect in desktop.
When I say mobile and desktop, I mean the user agent of the browser, not to be confused the mobile version of the website.
I'm not sure why you are having problems. I agree, the stock browser in mobile mode sucks on that website. Are we talking about yahoo sports? You know they have a fantasy football app that would be much better than the site.
I don't have anything special done with root, just use it for cheating games
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Serinety said:
First...being rooted doesn't inherently make anything better. It all depends what you do with your root a access.
I went to the yahoo sports page and here are my results.
Stock browser: mobile was terible. Desktop mode was flawless.
Opera Browser: flawless in both mobile and desktop
Chrome browser: flawless in both mobile and desktop
Dolphin browser: slightly more lag in mobile but perfect in desktop.
When I say mobile and desktop, I mean the user agent of the browser, not to be confused the mobile version of the website.
I'm not sure why you are having problems. I agree, the stock browser in mobile mode sucks on that website. Are we talking about yahoo sports? You know they have a fantasy football app that would be much better than the site.
I don't have anything special done with root, just use it for cheating games
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The signup site for yahoo fantasy basketball is fine, it's when I log-in and load my rosters and team match ups that it starts to stutter. Dolphin crashes on me constantly, no idea why AND when it's not busy crashing on me, it doesn't even load my roster, it'll load up the background of the site but that's it. I'm able to scroll but there's nothing on the site except the background picture. Chrome doesn't have the option to stay in desktop mode, every time i load up a new tab, it'll turn off desktop mode. It's annoying to have to turn on desktop mode every time I go onto yahoo. Opera doesn't lag but for some reason the top banner with the menus scrolls down when i scroll down when it's not supposed to, it overlaps the stats of the players, making it difficult to read.
And the app for fantasy anything is crap, it doesn't allow for a lot of things that the website does, such as swapping your players. You can even see the reviews that many people are unhappy with the app and how it's limited to the things u can do.
I wish the note performed better, i was really excited when I used it until I went to yahoo and was really trying hard to see past this but it's soooo annoying!

sholee said:
The signup site for yahoo fantasy basketball is fine, it's when I log-in and load my rosters and team match ups that it starts to stutter. Dolphin crashes on me constantly, no idea why AND when it's not busy crashing on me, it doesn't even load my roster, it'll load up the background of the site but that's it. I'm able to scroll but there's nothing on the site except the background picture. Chrome doesn't have the option to stay in desktop mode, every time i load up a new tab, it'll turn off desktop mode. It's annoying to have to turn on desktop mode every time I go onto yahoo. Opera doesn't lag but for some reason the top banner with the menus scrolls down when i scroll down when it's not supposed to, it overlaps the stats of the players, making it difficult to read.
And the app for fantasy anything is crap, it doesn't allow for a lot of things that the website does, such as swapping your players. You can even see the reviews that many people are unhappy with the app and how it's limited to the things u can do.
I wish the note performed better, i was really excited when I used it until I went to yahoo and was really trying hard to see past this but it's soooo annoying!
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well clearly this is not a performance issue with the tablet . In not Sure why you keep going Down that Road. For whatever reason the website is having some compatibility issue with the note, you can email yahoo about it, maybe it's a simple fix. If you need to return the tablet because of it, go for it. But it's not an issue with the performance capability of the tablet itself, the tablet is plenty capable of display the simple yahoo site, send an email to yahoo tech support is about the best advice I can give.
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