Hey gus, got something to show you, a tip, and a question, i made a music video last week (Alicia keys/Rihanna cover) and used my note 2 for one angle. I figured why not start using it, i bought alot of batteries for it, i have a 64 gb card, and its 1080 like my other cameras. Obviously, the lens and sensor arent that great but in low light, and if its on a tripod, its pretty good, i was even able to add zooming later in the editing. The note 2 shot is the one with the drummer/rapper http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WeRceSDUjtk .
A couple things, first of all, here is the link for a tripod mount that definitely works for the note 2, if you buy any others, make sure they fit first. The whole stabalizer thing is stupid and it doesnt really do anything although i guess it would help you not block the lens or mic, it works great as a tripod mount http://www.amazon.com/Woxom-Slingsho.../dp/B008Q1XQ5Q
Also, does anyone know of any apps that will let you lower the gain of the microphone while taking video? because the mics on really all of these phones are abysmal!! Really if you were able to lower the gain, that would solve the issue, mostly. also, does anyone know if theres a way to get an external microphone working on the phone when taking video? when i plug in my video mic it still records from the internal microphones.
On a side note (no pun intended) i think its kind of cool that it records in stereo with the built in mics... i thought thatextra mic was just for when youre on speaker but it seems like its used for stereo... when did they start doing that with phones?
Anyway, tell me what you think of the video, again, the note 2 angle is the one on the drummer and the zooming is not the digital zoom while recording, but after in the editing. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WeRceSDUjtk
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Hi everyone,
I've had my Vibrant with me at a local music festival this weekend, and thought it would be a fantastic time to exercise the HD video capture. Unfortunately, every single video I've taken has had such terrible audio that it's unwatchable. I kept digging around in camera settings but found that there's no way to adjust the mic sensitivity. Anyone else have a similar experience or any idea of a workaround?
In my experience the Vibrant's got excellent mic sensitivity and the sound quality is even quite good. Unfortunately, this means that things like concerts are going to be distorted. I've actually seen very few video cameras that can properly record a live concert, much less ANY cell phone.
I absolutely understand that recording a live concert through a microphone designed around voice for telephony is not going to be in any way, shape or form, ideal. I feel like the Vibrant could do better. I just wonder if it's something that could be corrected for in software, if it's a hardware limitation, or if it's just my particular unit. My dad was also with me at the festival, and recorded the same shows using my old Blackberry 9700. The Blackberry did a markedly better job.. It's not what I would call good by any means, but the video isn't intolerable to watch for memory's sake. I just find it frustrating since the phone takes such incredible video. I agree that it does very well in low volume situations, and I absolutely love the phone overall.
I have a couple of comparison example videos on Youtube from the festival but due to my new user status I can't post a link to them. PM me if you're interested.
I also took my phone to a trance festival, the image is amazing but the sound is rubbish. I was also standing very close to the speakers so I don't really blame the mic since it's not really built to handle such a strong volume input.
If there is a possible way to fix it software wise that would be great, but I'm no that optimistic about the chance it's fixable that way.
I agree, the sound just pops... Same song recorded by the og droid was MUCH BETTER... of course my video LOOKED amazing.
I agree my wife and I recently went to the Honda Civic Tour. I used my Vibrant while a friend used one of those little flip HD cameras. We both got the same picture quality however, her sound was amazing. The thing I find funny is those cameras only cost like $249.
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TGA_Gunnman talks about the same thing here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=734515
Though doesn't say exactly which one of the settings is what adjusts the mic gain.
I too would be very greatful to know how to turn the thing down.
-Greg
Wondering if my phone is defective. It's a Korean GS4.
Seems to work fine but videos have occasional pops in the audio. Using 1080P setting (why use anything different? LOL).
I heard it originally and just thought it was from my hands, fingers moving but it's in all the videos and happens at random.
The camera does write to a 32GB microSD but I've been using that in my Note II for about six months and that takes perfect video in comparison.
Yes it happens to me at some moments but I think its the microphone picking up finger movement..
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Wondering if my phone is defective. It's a Korean GS4.
Seems to work fine but videos have occasional pops in the audio. Using 1080P setting (why use anything different? LOL).
I heard it originally and just thought it was from my hands, fingers moving but it's in all the videos and happens at random.
The camera does write to a 32GB microSD but I've been using that in my Note II for about six months and that takes perfect video in comparison.
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Yes, I hear a pop at the beginning of only some of my videos as well.
I hear the pop at the beginning of nearly all the videos.
I did the OTA update yesterday, lemme take some more video and see if it comes back.
Most of the videos are quiet.
Just shot some video at the studio with some pretty good drum smashing and heard no popping, just lots of snares and cymbals LOL. Doesn't seem to compress the sound, I know the GS3 clipped quite badly but I have a few tests to see if its mic just rolls off sharply below 40Hz to stop that.
These cameras can record pretty decent video but the sound is smashed, probably done intentionally to keep good videos of concerts out but a good digital recorder in the pocket and editing can fix that.
Alright, well here's the conditions to the best that I can remember.
Focus not locked. Didn't see an option for that in the Galaxy S4 menu. Galaxy S4 software based stabilization was not turned on. Anyone want a redo with it on? Hardware stabilization was on for the HTC One.
Also have the Optimus G Pro, Note 2, and iPhone 5 available for tests if requested.
Front facing camera vs rear. Thoughts?
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Software stabilization turned on for the GS4. Does anyone know if this actually use pan and zooming to stabilize the image? I'm guessing it does and there is no other way to combat shake.
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On my trip to Colorado I added a low light test. I was pretty drowsy. Just woke up from a rest stop nap!
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Tried to let the HTC One redeem itself in the audio department. No cases and subject (me) is in front of the camera. No bouncing the sound off of a windshield. It is definitely quiet than the S4, but turn up the volume and let me know what you think.
Seems like the s4 audio sounds better. The HTC one audio sounds echo-ey. As far as the video, they look similar in quality but the viewing angle is wider on the one. I think I prefer the zoomed in on the s4.
Man, I keep going back and forth on these two phones
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the s4 is a vibratorrrrrr
The HTC video is much sharper
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The One video seems more color accurate and the OIS really stands out when mounted in a car like this, and obviously has a wider FoV. But the S4 has much better audio recording quality (the One had some weird occasional popping going on too).
As far as front facing cameras, again the One has a wide FoV, but the color seems better on the S4's. Whether or not the One is color accurate on the front facing cam, the S4's just plain looks better.
Here's hoping HTC has a firmware update to address the audio quality coming, because if they fix that then the One takes this victory.
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The One video seems more color accurate and the OIS really stands out when mounted in a car like this, and obviously has a wider FoV. But the S4 has much better audio recording quality (the One had some weird occasional popping going on too).
As far as front facing cameras, again the One has a wide FoV, but the color seems better on the S4's. Whether or not the One is color accurate on the front facing cam, the S4's just plain looks better.
Here's hoping HTC has a firmware update to address the audio quality coming, because if they fix that then the One takes this victory.
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I'd say that is pretty much what I feel.
This is great. thanks for taking the time do do this.
HTC video looks rather cold.
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Added a test with software stabilization turned on for the GS4.
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Seems like the s4 audio sounds better. The HTC one audio sounds echo-ey. As far as the video, they look similar in quality but the viewing angle is wider on the one. I think I prefer the zoomed in on the s4.
Man, I keep going back and forth on these two phones
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If you do a youtube search for HTC One Concert you will find a lot of really great audio recordings by the HTC One. I don't know why it was inferior in the car but I've heard other recordings with the HTC One where the audio sounded great. My own recordings with this phone sound much better than this video.
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If you do a youtube search for HTC One Concert you will find a lot of really great audio recordings by the HTC One. I don't know why it was inferior in the car but I've heard other recordings with the HTC One where the audio sounded great. My own recordings with this phone sound much better than this video.
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In the comments on the video he says the holder it's in is blocking the rear mic. That's why the audio is bad on the ONE no way to fix a huge obstruction like a holder no matter how good the mic is.
I've done three tests. Do you think it's just the output levels? Seems pretty strange.
I didn't see any options and everything is being processed in the same fashion.
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Actually the holder had a very narrow grip. I was noting that if the audio was directed toward the lens it might sound better. Instead in these tests there is a big ole windshield.
I'll figure something out!
Any suggestions are welcome.
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The audio quality of the s4 whilst recording videos continues to suprise me ! Very impressive.
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The mic on the HTC one is on the back, right next to the camera. The sound from the HTC One is echo'ed because it is actually being bounced off the windshield.
The mic on the S4 is on the bottom near the charging port I believe.
Great comparison video. The S4 seems much sharper and has better color.
Can you please do one in low-light? (night time driving) Would love it.
Nice FR-S btw. Ignore the riceburner comments, they are kids who don't know jack about cars. The FR-S is a great great car.
superb comparison.. what car are you testing it in btw? looks like the seats of an 86.
EDIT: oh my bad - was originally watching without audio (at work).. just heard you mention you're in the FRS (Scion's version of the 86).. Buddy, that supercharged engine sounds AWESOME.
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The mic on the HTC one is on the back, right next to the camera. The sound from the HTC One is echo'ed because it is actually being bounced off the windshield.
The mic on the S4 is on the bottom near the charging port I believe.
Great comparison video. The S4 seems much sharper and has better color.
Can you please do one in low-light? (night time driving) Would love it.
Nice FR-S btw. Ignore the riceburner comments, they are kids who don't know jack about cars. The FR-S is a great great car.
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Thanks. I'm driving to Colorado in my wife's Audi (from Houston). Right before the sun comes up I'll mount the phones.
I also want to do a comparison at some point with a GoPro 3 Black Edition.
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superb comparison.. what car are you testing it in btw? looks like the seats of an 86.
EDIT: oh my bad - was originally watching without audio (at work).. just heard you mention you're in the FRS (Scion's version of the 86).. Buddy, that supercharged engine sounds AWESOME.
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I want your FR-S... Please? Pretty please?
And awesome comparison video btw!
The S4 is a great phone with great specs,if only samsung chose better materials and design they would have seduce me
I'd like to see how a Samsung phone made with metal would sell.
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On my trip to Colorado I added a low light test. I was pretty drowsy. Just woke up from a rest stop nap!
I've noticed that 4K video recording seems to be capped at approximately 8 minutes. I've had 2 separate videos stop recording at this time. Has anyone else had this issue and is there a way to bypass it? I have plenty of space on my 64GB 6P, so it'd be great to take advantage of all that space. Is is a processor or heat related issue?
I believe recording is always capped after 4gb (I think that's the limit might be 2). That's happened to me on previous devices when I try to record 1 hour at 1080p would have to remember to change it to 720p or lower. Not sure how to change that, especially without rooting.
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I have the same problem recording in 1080p I can only record for 5 to 7 minutes. I also am rooted, what can I do to record longer?
This just happened to me tonight at my daughter's Christmas concert. Quit after 8 min 50 secs. I am test driving a Note 5 and a Nexus 6p. Between this and the mic problems, there's a good chance I'll send the 6p back. I never had this issue with my iPhones, and can't speak to whether the Note would have done it. It's frustrating because I really would have liked to have it all on video.
Likely both devices would have done something similar.. Iphones have in the past.
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I decided to do a test. I set it to record and left it alone. It recorded about 31 minutes of video before shutting off. I'm wondering if the camera app quit or if I hit something accidentally during the recording. This may be a case of user error instead of an issue with the device.
At 4k?
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Yesterday I also came across this limitation (8 minutoes in 4k video) with Nexus 6P camera but tried the Opencamera app (free) and it got past the 12minutes without problems (and it has more manual control for exposure, focus, bitrate) and after some testing with phone on a tripod I think I'm going to record my kid's X-mas party with bitrate of 20mbps because it uses half the space (I think default is 42mbps) and on a tripod it looks as good as default bitrate.
I've done another test with 20mbps and it stopped at 27mins and 4 seconds, I think file was already 4GB at this point, so maybe I could still get a longer recording time with 15mbps if needed (it is still pretty good quality for a tripod mounted camera)..
I'm not as happy with audio, I thought it was stereo but it's mono and I have the feeling that it is captured with MIC's facing wrong side of the phone... and at this point I have no time left for ordering external MIC's to test (but it should be mono as well, maybe better direction would give better quality in high frequencies - but that has to be next time). For now best option I think is selecting audio source to camcorder (I think it's the one that comes selected as default, but not the option called "default" and I did try to force stereo but file still gets mono audio but I hear high frequencies coming from rear MIC - not as bad as I thought) - I'd love to see an option to capture the audio from the 3 MIC's givving 3 channels audio (good to play on 5.1 systems using center, left and right speakers
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Yesterday I also came across this limitation (8 minutoes in 4k video) with Nexus 6P camera but tried the Opencamera app (free) and it got past the 12minutes without problems (and it has more manual control for exposure, focus, bitrate) and after some testing with phone on a tripod I think I'm going to record my kid's X-mas party with bitrate of 20mbps because it uses half the space (I think default is 42mbps) and on a tripod it looks as good as default bitrate.
I've done another test with 20mbps and it stopped at 27mins and 4 seconds, I think file was already 4GB at this point, so maybe I could still get a longer recording time with 15mbps if needed (it is still pretty good quality for a tripod mounted camera)..
I'm not as happy with audio, I thought it was stereo but it's mono and I have the feeling that it is captured with MIC's facing wrong side of the phone... and at this point I have no time left for ordering external MIC's to test (but it should be mono as well, maybe better direction would give better quality in high frequencies - but that has to be next time). For now best option I think is selecting audio source to camcorder (I think it's the one that comes selected as default, but not the option called "default" and I did try to force stereo but file still gets mono audio but I hear high frequencies coming from rear MIC - not as bad as I thought) - I'd love to see an option to capture the audio from the 3 MIC's givving 3 channels audio (good to play on 5.1 systems using center, left and right speakers
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Perhaps the flashable zip in the Nexus 6 forums to activate stereo recording would work on the 6P also?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/general/mod-stereo-audio-recording-t3001680
I just recorded a Christmas ugly sweater party video at work in 720p on my 6P, and it stopped after 8m30s
Still experiencing this problem. Anyone else? Has anyone stumbled upon a fix? Thanks!
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I've noticed that 4K video recording seems to be capped at approximately 8 minutes. I've had 2 separate videos stop recording at this time. Has anyone else had this issue and is there a way to bypass it? I have plenty of space on my 64GB 6P, so it'd be great to take advantage of all that space. Is is a processor or heat related issue?
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I was looking into the 6p specifically for 4k video so it's good to know about this problem. Sorry I can't offer help though.
After 12 hours a day and recording almost 100 videos on the highest setting the phone battery never went down past 50% (each day mind you). The phone was starting to get warm about mid way through the day, not sure if it was the sun beating down on my pants (I was in Jacksonville, FL) or due to the constant recording, but it never got extremely hot.
I took some videos zoomed in max at 8x and the quality is honestly not bad. Definitely not HD quality but you can see quite well what you're looking at.
The audio came out better than any other I've seen or heard from others who were with me, two being S7 Edges​, and another an iPhone 7 plus.
The stability when zoomed in 8x was also amazing to me. I could walk around someone who got in the way and it looked like I was barely moving, definitely didn't seem as if I were holding my phone in the air.
The way it picks up light was also better than any other phone I was able to compare with. When the later bands played in the dark I could still see so much detail and wasn't flushed out by either low light or having the stage lights drown out what my camera could see.
Definitely impressed and glad I had this phone with me for this event. Not professional quality but amazing nonetheless, so I figured I'd share with others my experience. I'm willing to answer any questions to anything I may have forgotten to give better details for. I don't really use my YouTube account to upload videos but if need be I could upload a few for those who are curious.
Is there a chance you could share some video samples of what you got?
I haven't had a chance to take my S8+ to a concert yet.
Does the zoom still severely distort the audio?
On the Note 7, audio zoom was enabled by default. It's a good idea, say if you're recording someone talking across the room and when you zoom in it increases the mic gain so you (may) hear them.
Problem is at a gig either on stage or front row with stacks of amps and columns ripping at 120dB and you decide to zoom in the audio distorts horribly. Like makes you want to stab your eyes out with a fork horrible! And there is no way to disable it. The solution is to not use zoom but when recording at 4K using up to 4X optical zoom is generally OK if you re-render your edits at 1080. Fortunately the gigs I did this with I was using a digital recorder and have decent audio tracks to go with the video. Otherwise I'd be screwed. I have not tried recording with mine yet but I may bring it to drum rehearsal and kick things up a bit and zoom in on the kit.
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Is there a chance you could share some video samples of what you got?
I haven't had a chance to take my S8+ to a concert yet.
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Does the zoom still severely distort the audio?
On the Note 7, audio zoom was enabled by default. It's a good idea, say if you're recording someone talking across the room and when you zoom in it increases the mic gain so you (may) hear them.
Problem is at a gig either on stage or front row with stacks of amps and columns ripping at 120dB and you decide to zoom in the audio distorts horribly. Like makes you want to stab your eyes out with a fork horrible! And there is no way to disable it. The solution is to not use zoom but when recording at 4K using up to 4X optical zoom is generally OK if you re-render your edits at 1080. Fortunately the gigs I did this with I was using a digital recorder and have decent audio tracks to go with the video. Otherwise I'd be screwed. I have not tried recording with mine yet but I may bring it to drum rehearsal and kick things up a bit and zoom in on the kit.
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I have the videos up on my Facebook if you guys would like to check it out that way. Just drop me a PM and I'll give you my info through that.
Not too sure about the audio and zoom feature. Didn't even know that existed to be honest. I will say that there are a few I started out with no zoom and I zoomed in during the video but I don't think I really noticed a difference in audio quality. I'm not the pickiest when it comes to stuff like that and none of it is Hollywood material but still impressed nonetheless.
Ok been a while but I finally got to test this and can confirm the audio zoom "feature" is definitely still there! :|
So when recording events such as live venues with loud SPL particularly lower frequencies do NOT use the zoom if at all possible.
Your audio will be very distorted.
Otherwise, it shoots fine.