[Q] Question about Nandroid Backup... - Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hello guys, I have a question about the nandroid backup on Nexus 4
See I got my Nexus 4 the other day, and I flashed Clockworkmod Recovery 6.0.2.0, then I made a nandroid backup. The recovery said this backup was stored in sdcard/clockworkmod/backup. But when I return to my normal system I cannot find this folder(using root explorer). I can see that 1 or 2G space was used by something but I cannot find this folder no matter how, although this folder does exist. Later I found out that Rom Manager can get access to this folder.So is the recovery using a special way to hide this folder or what? Hope you guys can tell me something about this. Many thanks XD

ShawnZhang said:
Hello guys, I have a question about the nandroid backup on Nexus 4
See I got my Nexus 4 the other day, and I flashed Clockworkmod Recovery 6.0.2.0, then I made a nandroid backup. The recovery said this backup was stored in sdcard/clockworkmod/backup. But when I return to my normal system I cannot find this folder(using root explorer). I can see that 1 or 2G space was used by something but I cannot find this folder no matter how, although this folder does exist. Later I found out that Rom Manager can get access to this folder.So is the recovery using a special way to hide this folder or what? Hope you guys can tell me something about this. Many thanks XD
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Look in /data/media/Clockworkmod.
NOT the /sdcard/data, but in system root.

This recovery folder is only accessible by Clockwordmod when it is running. It cannot be displayed in file explorers for safety reasons, such as accidental deletion. But this folder can be accessed with a PC when your phone is connected to it, in order to take a backup of the folder. Hope this helps
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Check in /data/media as prev post said.
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CMNein said:
Look in /data/media/Clockworkmod.
NOT the /sdcard/data, but in system root.
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I see, thank you bro:good:

ajabhi95 said:
This recovery folder is only accessible by Clockwordmod when it is running. It cannot be displayed in file explorers for safety reasons, such as accidental deletion. But this folder can be accessed with a PC when your phone is connected to it, in order to take a backup of the folder. Hope this helps
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that will be much safer... Thanks bro~~ thanks for the explanation

CMNein said:
Look in /data/media/Clockworkmod.
NOT the /sdcard/data, but in system root.
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Finally I found that folder with your direction. Thank you bro!

Anyone else notice older versions of CWM backups were sometimes over 1gb and these new ones are only about 50mb?

dralways said:
Anyone else notice older versions of CWM backups were sometimes over 1gb and these new ones are only about 50mb?
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Yes, that's a new feature that tries to combine the backups and only re-backup newly changed data

Forgive my ignorance guys, but if you wipe the data partition, do you lose your backups? I want to get this straight before I root my phone that will apparently never be shipped to me.
Ordered my Nexus 4 on the 13th. Still waiting.

estallings15 said:
Forgive my ignorance guys, but if you wipe the data partition, do you lose your backups? I want to get this straight before I root my phone that will apparently never be shipped to me.
Ordered my Nexus 4 on the 13th. Still waiting.
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No you don't as the data partition is separate from the backup folder. But just to be sure, make a backup of your backup on your PC :cyclops:

Does TWRP also stores their back ups here too??
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ajabhi95 said:
This recovery folder is only accessible by Clockwordmod when it is running. It cannot be displayed in file explorers for safety reasons, such as accidental deletion. But this folder can be accessed with a PC when your phone is connected to it, in order to take a backup of the folder. Hope this helps
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how if when i plug my phone to the computer all i can see is the stuff in the SD drive?

Sparta507 said:
Does TWRP also stores their back ups here too??
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how if when i plug my phone to the computer all i can see is the stuff in the SD drive?
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I think you can copy your data/media/clockworkmod to your SDcard(with root explorer or something like that), then plug the phone to your PC, move the clockworkmod folder to your PC. I did it this afternoon

how do i go about doing a nandroid backup? steps please
so nandroid backup? save the backup folder to PC, then i can flash a custom rom like matrix1, and how do i get back all my apps/folders again? just put back the backupfolder?
can i just connect to my PC and copy and paste ALL OF the nexus4 drive? is that backing up as well?

ajabhi95 said:
This recovery folder is only accessible by Clockwordmod when it is running. It cannot be displayed in file explorers for safety reasons, such as accidental deletion. But this folder can be accessed with a PC when your phone is connected to it, in order to take a backup of the folder. Hope this helps
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How do i save the backup to my pc? I do not see the data folder when i pluge in my nexus 4 to my computer.

CMNein said:
Look in /data/media/Clockworkmod.
NOT the /sdcard/data, but in system root.
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Is this directory stored on the internal storage? In other words, when I do a wipe to I flash a rom, would this directory be included in that wipe? I mean, it sounds like a stupid question. And I would expect it to be located in the internal storage, but I don't wanna do a wipe and install the rom and now I'm stuck without my backup.

what would be the quickest process to copy a nandroid backup from my nexus4 to a computer?
and when i wanted to paste it back onto my phone, how would i go about doing that to restore from it?

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CWM Recovery Issue

I have been reading about how people (including myself) are having issues mounting the SD card with CWM Recovery 6.x.xx and I was wondering where (if it exists) I can find an earlier version for my Nexus 4. The problem I am having is when my phone is connected to my computer, I cant find the Clockwork Mod file to remove the backup from the device. I have the 8GB N4, so I really want to remove it, put it somewhere safe and not have it take up precious space.
If anyone has any thoughts or other solutions, please let me know. I am also having the same issue with TWRP2 (cant mount while in recovery).
toonhead85 said:
I have been reading about how people (including myself) are having issues mounting the SD card with CWM Recovery 6.x.xx and I was wondering where (if it exists) I can find an earlier version for my Nexus 4. The problem I am having is when my phone is connected to my computer, I cant find the Clockwork Mod file to remove the backup from the device. I have the 8GB N4, so I really want to remove it, put it somewhere safe and not have it take up precious space.
If anyone has any thoughts or other solutions, please let me know. I am also having the same issue with TWRP2 (cant mount while in recovery).
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Just download Astro file manager from the Play Store and find the backup and delete it. You can also delete the backup from in recovery as well.
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scream4cheese said:
Just download Astro file manager from the Play Store and find the backup and delete it. You can also delete the backup from in recovery as well.
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I have Root Explorer and can't find the folder on my /sdcard. If I could, I could take the backup and move it, but it doesn't seem to be visible.
I have been thinking, do I need to be rooted to be able to access the folder, or see it for that matter?
And as a side note, I tried TWRP2 and I can see the folder with backups made.
toonhead85 said:
I have Root Explorer and can't find the folder on my /sdcard. If I could, I could take the backup and move it, but it doesn't seem to be visible.
I have been thinking, do I need to be rooted to be able to access the folder, or see it for that matter?
And as a side note, I tried TWRP2 and I can see the folder with backups made.
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I had this same issue as I'm using CWM 6.0.2.0. For whatever reason, they changed the saved backups location to /data/media/clockworkmod now so you can't access it by plugging in your phone because the backups aren't on the sdcard. That's also the reason you can't find it. To my knowledge, you can do two things to get them to your computer:
1. Use ADB to pull the clockworkmod folder to your computer. I still haven't completely figured out how to do that yet as I don't screw around in ADB shell too much and I'm not sure if you have to mount the filesystem before doing it. I'm sure if you search around, you could find the ADB solution.
2. (This solution sucks but it works...) If you have a file manager (like X-plore) and root access, you can copy the contents of /data/media/clockworkmod folder to the sdcard location on your phone. Once it's there, THEN you can access that copy when it's plugged into your computer. Then just get rid of the .nomedia file in the folder and move it from your sdcard to your PC. Simple but takes forever for the files to copy depending on how many backups your moving and how big your blobs folder is.
If someone knows a better way, I'm definitely all ears. Really don't like how they changed CWM to this new style. Makes it a pain to offload backups from your phone to your PC.
Hatzy said:
I had this same issue as I'm using CWM 6.0.2.0. For whatever reason, they changed the saved backups location to /data/media/clockworkmod now so you can't access it by plugging in your phone because the backups aren't on the sdcard. That's also the reason you can't find it. To my knowledge, you can do two things to get them to your computer:
1. Use ADB to pull the clockworkmod folder to your computer. I still haven't completely figured out how to do that yet as I don't screw around in ADB shell too much and I'm not sure if you have to mount the filesystem before doing it. I'm sure if you search around, you could find the ADB solution.
2. (This solution sucks but it works...) If you have a file manager (like X-plore) and root access, you can copy the contents of /data/media/clockworkmod folder to the sdcard location on your phone. Once it's there, THEN you can access that copy when it's plugged into your computer. Then just get rid of the .nomedia file in the folder and move it from your sdcard to your PC. Simple but takes forever for the files to copy depending on how many backups your moving and how big your blobs folder is.
If someone knows a better way, I'm definitely all ears. Really don't like how they changed CWM to this new style. Makes it a pain to offload backups from your phone to your PC.
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I use ROM manager to connect to the server and download my nand directly to my PC.
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You have an option in cwm uder the backup menu to remove the backups or unused data. It works for me.
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strapped365 said:
I use ROM manager to connect to the server and download my nand directly to my PC.
Sent From a Freaked out Nexus 4
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Didn't even know you could do that. I always just boot to CWM, never use the ROM manager app. That sounds like a paid feature or is it on the free version?
Edit: Yeah, it's a paid feature but I'm seriously considering going this route since it's so damn handy. If I can't figure out how to ADB it, I may just buy the premium version. Thanks bro.
webdo said:
You have an option in cwm uder the backup menu to remove the backups or unused data. It works for me.
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He wants a copy of the backups on his PC before he removes them.
Sorry for my incomplete answer than. I found mine using a root explorer
/mnt/shell/emulated/clockworkmod/backup
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Thanks for all the great tips/answers/comments. I will see what I can do in terms of finding where the backup is stored on my phone now (since it seems there could be two places).
Cheers!!
Hatzy, you can pull the backups using insecure adbd by chainfire [app]. Otherwise, you can only pull sdcard. Or, i believe you can pull via the path /mnt/shell/emulated..
So, after doing some looking... I thiink my best bet is to use Rom Manager's new Download Server feature. I'll give it a try and let everyone know how it works out!!

Sdcard help!

Hi guys, the problem I have is after a few times of plugging in my Nexus 7 to my PC, it has seemed to 'Wipe' the SD partition. Both the PC and device (File explorers and terminal) report it has been cleared, with obvious new files created by some apps on startup.
I have/had a backup on said SD partition,when I boot into recovery, Clockworkmod recovery still shows that I have these backup file... I then get a Md5 mismatch error when trying to use it. (I have attached a screenshot of where CWM displays my backup)
What I want to know is, do I get this error because the file isn't there? Is there any way I can restore my SD partition by some sort of witchcraft?
Thanks in advance, Dan
That's not where CWM stores its backups though. The actual location is /data/media/clockworkmod/. This folder is not accessible from the computer.
korockinout13 said:
That's not where CWM stores its backups though. The actual location is /data/media/clockworkmod/. This folder is not accessible from the computer.
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Oh ok... What's with the path above my backup then? :S
Thanks for the reply!
Rawritsdan said:
Oh ok... What's with the path above my backup then? :S
Thanks for the reply!
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A symlink. No files actually exist there.
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najaboy said:
A symlink. No files actually exist there.
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I see! Never mind anyway as the backups I did have, didn't work when I flashed it (Must have been incomplete).
Thank you again for the quick responses, Dan.

how do i restore with nanoid backup?

Hi,
I backup my system with nandroid using CWMR mode. I save it into my computer, then I wipe down my SD card. If I want to use CWMR to restore that backup, where do I copy the file to so that it will be recognized in recovery mode?
Thank you,
stagius24 said:
Hi,
I backup my system with nandroid using CWMR mode. I save it into my computer, then I wipe down my SD card. If I want to use CWMR to restore that backup, where do I copy the file to so that it will be recognized in recovery mode?
Thank you,
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Cwm backups be copied in /data/media/clockworkmod/backups, you can pull the data using "adb pull /data/media/clockworkmod/backups"
Rohit02 said:
Cwm backups be copied in /data/media/clockworkmod/backups, you can pull the data using "adb pull /data/media/clockworkmod/backups"
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Hi,
I already pull the backup.
My question is where do I put them back into the sd card so it will be recognized by CWM in recovery mode. Putting in back in the same folder won't get recognized
stagius24 said:
Hi,
I already pull the backup.
My question is where do I put them back into the sd card so it will be recognized by CWM in recovery mode. Putting in back in the same folder won't get recognized
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mnt/shell/emulated/clockworkmod/backup
put it in this path
wxtye said:
mnt/shell/emulated/clockworkmod/backup
put it in this path
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I use ES to see the folder but cant see it. Even though it suppose to have some other backup from rom manager there. Should I create a new folder?
stagius24 said:
I use ES to see the folder but cant see it. Even though it suppose to have some other backup from rom manager there. Should I create a new folder?
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yes, just create a folder, should work
wxtye said:
yes, just create a folder, should work
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What about when we create backup using CWMR in recovery mode. I can see them through rom manager. They have a similar path /mnt/shell/.. but using ES explorer I can't access them anywhere. Is there any way I can pull that out?
stagius24 said:
What about when we create backup using CWMR in recovery mode. I can see them through rom manager. They have a similar path /mnt/shell/.. but using ES explorer I can't access them anywhere. Is there any way I can pull that out?
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In Rom Manager, go to manage and restore backups, from there, there is an option to download your backup, using a browser from your pc
wxtye said:
In Rom Manager, go to manage and restore backups, from there, there is an option to download your backup, using a browser from your pc
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I tried that but I gave up.
Bought the license on play store but not able to activate. End up pirate apk from google, still doesnt work. Is there a way I can pull it out like nandroid backup?
stagius24 said:
I tried that but I gave up.
Bought the license on play store but not able to activate. End up pirate apk from google, still doesnt work. Is there a way I can pull it out like nandroid backup?
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Never tried it like that, I always use the download option from Rom Manager, its slow but it works for me everytime
wxtye said:
Never tried it like that, I always use the download option from Rom Manager, its slow but it works for me everytime
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Thank you. Do you happen to use titanium backup?
If I back up app+user data on my current rom, and let say later i do a factory reset and flash to another rom. Will the titanium back up still be there for me to restore later? If so, will I get the same app, and all user date like sms, picture onto my new rom?
stagius24 said:
Thank you. Do you happen to use titanium backup?
If I back up app+user data on my current rom, and let say later i do a factory reset and flash to another rom. Will the titanium back up still be there for me to restore later? If so, will I get the same app, and all user date like sms, picture onto my new rom?
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Yes, u can restore your app data as long as you don't format your sdcard partition, to be safe, you can just copy the whole TB folder to your pc.
For sms, you will need to restore system data, which is not recommended when changing roms, maybe just select sms and restore from TB.
Pictures will still be available, again, to be safe, just copy everything to your pc, just in case.

[Q] Nandroid Backup Hidden

I finally got fed up with reliability issues of CM (system crashing/freezing/etc) so I'm going back to stock (and I'm using the most current stable version). I took a stock backup in February using TWRP but find CWM to be more reliable so I use that now. I took a backup of the CM install today, using CWM, before doing anything, but I cannot find it. It doesn't appear in /sdcard/clockworkmod/backups although when using CWM, I can view past backups and even restore from them and it's saying it's coming from that directory. Any clues as to how to view these backups so I can copy them to my PC?
I granted my file manager root access so that shouldn't be the issue. It only shows a downloads folder under the clockworkmod folder, no backups folder with the actual backups in them.
Thanks for the help,
Spike
Did you check for any hidden files? Or maybe any other folder.
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XxLordxX said:
Did you check for any hidden files? Or maybe any other folder.
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Its in. /data/media/clockworkmod/backup/
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He5aid said:
Its in. /data/media/clockworkmod/backup/
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Yes it was thank you so much for the help!

[Q] How to make EFS backup easily, without TWRP?

I've been lucky not to lose my EFS data so far. But now I really need to back that up.
I've been reading about problems with TWRP, and I allready have CWM, which I really like.
Is there an easy "noobproof" way to make EFS backup?
For Samsung, there is EFS Professional but I don't know if it works with LG G2.
Another way I found is from another Samsung thread: Backup your EFS IMMEDIATELY, but same thing, I don't know if that'll work with G2
Any help, anyone?
Hi,
Take a look here: EFS Partition Backup and More [All G2 Variants] *Fixed*.
EDIT: I misread, you want to keep CWM...
viking37 said:
Hi,
Take a look here: EFS Partition Backup and More [All G2 Variants] *Fixed*.
EDIT: I misread, you want to keep CWM...
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I was thinking, I'd install TWRP through goomanager, make EFS backup and go back to CWM.
But if something happens, I should have TWRP installed to restore EFS?
terhiha said:
I was thinking, I'd install TWRP through goomanager, make EFS backup and go back to CWM.
But if something happens, I should have TWRP installed to restore EFS?
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CWM backs them up. The problem is, they only seem accessible/viewable in CWM. I can not get to the folder in a file explorerexplorer, yet can see them in CWM.....?
Steamer86 said:
CWM backs them up. The problem is, they only seem accessible/viewable in CWM. I can not get to the folder in a file explorerexplorer, yet can see them in CWM.....?
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What I've been reading, CWM doesn't backup EFS.
Where did you read it does?
terhiha said:
What I've been reading, CWM doesn't backup EFS.
Where did you read it does?
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I used the zips, and did it in CWM. The folders are present and viewable in recovery, not upon boot. They are created before emulation/0 in CWM. I'm gonna go check if I can somehow move them in CWM... and check files. I'll be back.
Edit: Use the one that makes the zip. CWM shows it created and there, but I can not access it past this to verify it and or it it works and is correct. I am not going to flash it and take that risk.
Steamer86 said:
I used the zips, and did it in CWM. The folders are present and viewable in recovery, not upon boot. They are created before emulation/0 in CWM. I'm gonna go check if I can somehow move them in CWM... and check files. I'll be back.
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I used the efsbackup zips in CWM.
I initially encountered the same problem with not being able to find the files. From memory I was able to get to the by using a file browser with root capabilities (in my case solid explorer) go back to the root directory then Data\Media. In there I found my efs backup files as well as my CWM nandroid backup.
drc13 said:
I used the efsbackup zips in CWM.
I initially encountered the same problem with not being able to find the files. From memory I was able to get to the by using a file browser with root capabilities (in my case solid explorer) go back to the root directory then Data\Media. In there I found my efs backup files as well as my CWM nandroid backup.
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The zip and individual files are there in their respective folders, as well other backup data. You sir, are my hero of the day.
The zip method is extremely smaller than individual files...
Steamer86 said:
The zip and individual files are there in their respective folders, as well other backup data. You sir, are my hero of the day.
The zip method is extremely smaller than individual files...
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That's great news, glad I could help!
I've been wanting to post it in the development thread as a few people had asked something similar but unfortunately I don't meet the post count requirements to help them out!
I quoted your post over there.
I'm not able to move "EFS_backup" anywhere. I try, but moved folder stays empty. It shows "efsbackupflashable.zip", "efs1.img" and "efs2.img"
But they all are 0kb.
I found EFS_backup from data/media, all 3mb large.
Whit root explorer, I copied Efs_backup folder, to another folder in my sdcard, with root explorer I can see it there, but I cant copy it or to my computer.
How do I get it to safe place???
The other zip works too for individual files. I used ZArchiver to zip them up. Sent a copy to my PC with ES File Explorer over lan and uploaded another copy to Google Drive. You should be able to grab anything from SD to PC when plugged in USB. I replaced su with SuperSU a while ago. Actually get prompt permissions now. The OG SU on this phone with root method didn't play well. Also, make sure you show hidden files, PC and Phone explorer.
Steamer86 said:
The other zip works too for individual files. I used ZArchiver to zip them up. Sent a copy to my PC with ES File Explorer over lan and uploaded another copy to Google Drive. You should be able to grab anything from SD to PC when plugged in USB. I replaced su with SuperSU a while ago. Actually get prompt permissions now. The OG SU on this phone with root method didn't play well. Also, make sure you show hidden files, PC and Phone explorer.
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Thanks!! Via Root Explorer I emailed this for me and uploaded to Google drive. Size looks fine.
Now i have my EFS backup and I can continue my search for best ROM for me!
sorry for being dumb but do i use the zip from EFS Partition Backup and More [All G2 Variants] *Fixed* link and just flash it in cwm for the efs backup
Yes
And what if I just root my g2, download ES-Explorer then go to the root of the internal and just copy and paste the efs folder?
Shouldn't that work too?
Kalaidos said:
And what if I just root my g2, download ES-Explorer then go to the root of the internal and just copy and paste the efs folder?
Shouldn't that work too?
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stick to proven methods......
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Ok thank :crying:

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