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CES 2011 tablets

Is it me or the tablets at the CES today were nothing but crap! All this great hardware but had some serious OS issues, or lack there of.
Even the one from Vizio was lagging/skipping frame rates soooo badly. The Adam was EXTREMELY skipping frame rates, and was had crap touch response, and can't see how feasible playing games on that thing because of the way it's designed. Only the PlayBook seems to be as smooth as a baby's bottom, but it's not Android unfortunately.
My SGT pwns them all, at the same time! hah. What are your thoughts so far?

If they would have been able to ship last summer, no doubt I'd have an Adam. I'd really love the Pixel Qi screen and near stock Android, but they seemed to go further and further with their customization there, and it just took too long and I got the Tab. I'm still hoping next year brings 15-19" slates/tablets. I'd even consider a Win 8 slate in that form factor, but Ubuntu/other Linux would be best there as a full laptop replacement.

BuglessFan said:
If they would have been able to ship last summer, no doubt I'd have an Adam. I'd really love the Pixel Qi screen and near stock Android, but they seemed to go further and further with their customization there, and it just took too long and I got the Tab. I'm still hoping next year brings 15-19" slates/tablets. I'd even consider a Win 8 slate in that form factor, but Ubuntu/other Linux would be best there as a full laptop replacement.
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15 and 19 inch tablets?? What are you going to do with those, literally surf on them???
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I think that size really takes away from the portability of the tablet

I dunno, I have been working my tab for about a month. I have a GalaxyS and the Tab and since flashing the firmware to get phone support, I have left my Galaxy S in a desk drawer. I swap sim cards out if I want to carry something smaller than the Tab. None of the tablets announced have talked about voice support. I think the Vizio unit with infrared is interesting but I remember having this on a palm pilot and didnt use it much as a remote.
I don't see how any of these new units are doing anything different until Gingerbread/3.0 or whatever we are calling it is gold.
I like USB ports but what I am going to do with those? Print? I can already print on the tab. What we need is less hardware improvement and more software improvement - something that is missing from the CES announcements. You can customize a turd any way you want but if it's still a turd it's going to stink.

subvecto said:
15 and 19 inch tablets?? What are you going to do with those, literally surf on them???
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Replace a laptop. Something that big without the need for the keyboard would be a perfect replacement. With Swype, BlindType and others, I don't need to bother with a full keyboard, and with a tablet, there's no need for a wireless mouse or a fidgety touch pad. Weight-wise, I'm fine with 17" laptop in a bag now, but with the battery life their getting on 10" tabs, I can see something with solid state drive of some kind being a full and complete laptop replacement not requiring me to carry around a brick or open and close it. It is the eventual replacement for the laptop, no doubt. If you really lust for a physical keyboard: Bluetooth, and it'd still be less to lug around than a current laptop bag with a brick, mouse and keyboard. I just hope it's by next year. www.kno.com is already taking pre-orders for a dual screen 14" tablet. We have the tech already to make heavy passive-screen folding laptops as ancient as rotary dialing phones.
My ideal two gadget life would be something around the size of the tab, maybe about half the trim around the screen, as phone/portable tablet, and the big one for actual work and real computing that I use my laptop for now. No phone; just those two sizes.

The only one that looked good was the xoom. And honestly I think the main thing is the software that is made for a tablet. If we could get that for our tabs then I don't see the point of going anywhere.
Just worried that we don't have the hardware to run honeycomb.
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fbrn said:
Just worried that we don't have the hardware to run honeycomb.
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Don't worry.
Random note: there's no hard minimum processor requirement for Honeycomb. Trust me, if there were I'd know.
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Croak said:
Don't worry.
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I love how you say that with confidence.

Something just makes me uneasy about Motorola android products...not trying to put anybody down if you've got a Motorola Android device, but the quality just isn't there. At least for me it isn't. They have a cheap feel to them and lets not even get into Motoblur....awful. I dont see the Xoom being that successful
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xoltrix2000 said:
I love how you say that with confidence.
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There's a LOT of untapped potential in the Hummingbird SoC. GPU wise, it's pretty close to a dead heat with a Tegra 250. Seriously.

I am so hoping you are right on that one. I paid full retail 15 days too early to get the 100 refund so I am not the happiest about that. However honestly I love the size more than I thought I would. It just fits perfectly so I don't know if the tablets that are being announced would be a little too big after using my galaxy tab?
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xoltrix2000 said:
Is it me or the tablets at the CES today were nothing but crap! All this great hardware but had some serious OS issues, or lack there of.
Even the one from Vizio was lagging/skipping frame rates soooo badly. The Adam was EXTREMELY skipping frame rates, and was had crap touch response, and can't see how feasible playing games on that thing because of the way it's designed. Only the PlayBook seems to be as smooth as a baby's bottom, but it's not Android unfortunately.
My SGT pwns them all, at the same time! hah. What are your thoughts so far?
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I have to agree. I was hoping for a new 7" tab with dual cores and comparable resolution to the tab. 10" tablet is useless on the go and if I'm at home, what's wrong with using a laptop?
I was really disappointed by the Streak 7. I can't even believe Dell has the nerve to introduce such a ****ty product.

Kind of funny how some are in a mad rush to get something bigger while I just junked the iPad in favor of a Galaxy Tab because it's so much smaller and lighter. That it plays Flash video so well and has back and front cameras....oh, and is available on a carrier that doesn't suck at my house...is pretty much a middle finger aimed squarely at Mr Jobs. And if anyone deserves the middle finger, it's Mr Jobs.

Well samsung just announced a new galaxy tab with 1.2 ghz humming bird and 4g lte connectivity.
looks exactly the same but new insides.
Also only for verizon.
Also 5 mp camera and 1.3 mp front facing.

but will it make calls?

$70 for a 7 inch Capacitive Android 4.0 Tablet pc Support Skype video chat / Netflix/

Find this deal in slickdeals, and that is really impressive.
http://www.mcbub.com/item/7-Inch-Al...e-screen-WIFI-Camera-Black--CP147739--147995/
HIGHLIGHT
7" Form Factor
Android 4.0 / Ice Cream Sandwich
Capacitive touch screen
5-Point Multi-touch capability
Latest Release A13 CPU @ 1.2Ghz
512MB DDR II SDRAM
4GB Internal Memory
32GB Expandable MicroSD
Supports Google Play / Market
Supports Skype Video Chat
Some people has got this tablet, and test it also support Netflix.
source
Just tested, it can support Netflix,Skype video chat is ok, play Temple Run game smooth!

Damn, this looks awesome considering the price. Is McBub reputable?

754boy said:
Damn, this looks awesome considering the price. Is McBub reputable?
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seller is ok, already bought a lot of things from them. also from the source site, a lot of people already get their tablet, quality and customer service feedback is positive till now.

bought mine and got it a few dys ago, it works very well so far and doesnt get too hot
using it for productivity it works well, not doing any gaming on it
only thing that is terrible is the battery, but i am sure i can open it up and upgrade that later on
cant complain about anything really for the price

i'm a tad bit apprehensive buying from people that spell capacitive, capacitance.
LOL

xboxhaxorz said:
bought mine and got it a few dys ago, it works very well so far and doesnt get too hot
using it for productivity it works well, not doing any gaming on it
only thing that is terrible is the battery, but i am sure i can open it up and upgrade that later on
cant complain about anything really for the price
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What is battery life like and how do you plan on upgrading the battery?

pwnerman said:
i'm a tad bit apprehensive buying from people that spell capacitive, capacitance.
LOL
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Umm... they got it right.
That's a diction error, at the most. And you should be able to let that slide seeing as capacitive screen technology rely on capacitance theories.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Touchscreen#Capacitive
If you don't trust wiki then I can get you some scholarly peer reviewed articles and books for your interest.
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I'm definitely interested. Its cheaper than buying a 5.0" tablet phone
If they ship with EMS then im all in

I just received mine and found it to be already rooted with several WiFi accounts logged in. all in all its very nice for the price. I am going to be letting my 4 year old use it so she will leave my Asus Prime and my wife's iPad alone. I am interested to see if there will be any development support for this device it uses a pretty common CPU and form-factor.

ricersniper said:
I just received mine and found it to be already rooted with several WiFi accounts logged in. all in all its very nice for the price. I am going to be letting my 4 year old use it so she will leave my Asus Prime and my wife's iPad alone. I am interested to see if there will be any development support for this device it uses a pretty common CPU and form-factor.
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I was wondering about development too. It is really what is stopping me from picking up one.

i saw a video on youtube of the location where they develop the actual chip, can't say it instilled a lot of hope.
At worst flash a different rom and do a little cleanup and its good to go.

OK I'm 2 hours in and i have ran into a few issues. First of all the stock software is horrible. they load a bunch of weird stuff on to it before they ship them out. While my daughter was playing Bouncy Mouse it locked up the screen went non responsive and the music continued. I had to hard reset it buy long pressing the power button for 15 seconds. at that point i figured what the hell. ias soon as it came up i reset it back to its factory setting. this seems to have improved it a bit. we will see. I will keep you all posted.

that just makes me more worried, lol
maybe you'll have some luck with a different rom.

Well resetting it helped a ton. You have to more sure you don't try and over work it. I kissed mx player onto it and it plays video flawlessly. Netflix works great. I am very happy with it.
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Received mines today and I'm VERY impressed. For $70.00 this isn't bad. Love how sleek and slim it is. I'm going to order 2 more!!

This is the working hulu plus apk. I have used it and can confirm it works great.
http://www.mediafire.com/?trjo8teyc0sd325
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I'm jumping on this one
I figure for 70 bucks it's worth trying. If nothing else it will be good for keeping the kids quiet in the car.
Tablet + MiFi hotspot + Netflix = Mom and Dad don't have to threaten to pull over lol.
Ordering today, I will post how long it takes to arrive and maybe even a little unboxing video

ricersniper said:
This is the working hulu plus apk. I have used it and can confirm it works great.
http://www.mediafire.com/?trjo8teyc0sd325
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THANKS for this!!! This tablet is AMAZING for the price I'm very impressed!

how's the battery life on these? mainly surfing the web. i see it lists the battery as a 2200ma... they also sell these two at a great price and it's said they have 3300 ma batteries.
http://www.mcbub.com/item/7-Inch-An...WIFI-HDMI-Ultra-thin-Black--AA145518--145499/
http://www.mcbub.com/item/7-Inch-YI...B-RAM-8GB-HDMI-Camera-WIFI--CP145848--146073/.
i'd really rather get the cheaper one tho if the battery lasts atleast 4 hours surfing web pages.

Screen protector and rubber/silicon case
Planning on getting a couple of these for my kids. That way I won't cry too hard if they do get broken!
Anyway, since they are for kids, does anyone have any idea which screen protectors and silicon/rubber cases may fit these?
Thanks!

I read that in actuality 1.5 hrs is the actual battery time, is that what you guys are getting?
I want to buy this tablet as a movie player for my son for road trips.
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what tablet should i get?

i wanted to get a surface rt, but it wasn't able to play minecraft
What other Windows 8 Tablet do you think i could get for about <$600
Thank You :good:

The only tablets that will run minecraft playably would be those powered by an i5 processor and cost closer to $1000 not 600.
600 will get an Intel atom based tablet and that's it. Slightly better than the version in netbooks but still essentially netbook hardware. I do know 3 people who happily play minecraft on netbooks but they have to use optifine light, tiny render and one of them insists on using a reduced colour depth texture pack (which makes little difference). Even so they only achieve about 20fps, the nether lags unplayably, rain causes lay and TNT is dangerous to their frame rates. They are using 1.3 and 1.6ghz dual cores, these windows 8 tablets get an updated (read faster) version of the atom at 1.8ghz instead so will cope better but don't expect to be installing mods (other than optifine) or hd textures or render distances further than tiny or short.
If your intention is to spend $600 on something to play minecraft on, don't get a tablet. $600 will get a far more powerful laptop or an even more powerful desktop. For the same price as my desktop here in the UK (capable of 140fps minecraft, far render, fancy graphics etc) you can only get atom based tablets. For the same price as my desktop you can get a 15" laptop capable of 50fps on far render.
if you do want an atom based tablet, the standard option is the Asus vivotab smart (me400c I think is the designation, not sure), its a 10" unit, capacitative touch only (no fancy stylus basically) and no keyboard dock although they do offer a wallet style case which features a stand and an area to clip an optional Bluetooth keyboard to. It is probably the cheapest tablet you will find for windows 8, a YouTube user called robaxx has uploaded several reviews for the tablet. All atom based tablets have identical specs apart from whether they offer an active stylus or a keyboard dock.

I have acer w500 with Windows 8 pro - works perfectly - I have played Settlers 7, Minecraft and a few of the xbox store games no problem
Not sure what fps I get on it - I have a ps3 and xbox360 which I prefer over pc gaming so Im not too concerned about playing anything heavy duty
The only gripe I have, is the lack of memory - My W500 only has a 32GB ssd, this is nearly all used up with the install size of Windows 8 alone
I have 32gb SD card which I have moved a lot of stuff too and 3 external usb hard drives I carry about with me filled with data but I would appreciate the tablet more if it even had 128GB ssd instead

You can check the fps by pressing f3, gives alot of info on the debug screen. If it is playing nicely then that is good news.
I am personally going for the atom based tablets myself but I already have a powerful desktop for gaming. Playing minecraft or anything else would only be a bonus.

thanks guys for the help!
i was looking at the asus vivo tab smart (me400c) it looks ok
still lookin as to what to settle on

I have two win8 tablets. The first I got was the Samsung Ativ which I really like but it wasn't perfect for work because the size made it difficult to carry around and portrait mode was awkward for note taking. I just got the Lenovo Thinkpad Tablet 2 which is a 10.1 inch device with is the perfect size and weight for note taking. So I guess it depends on your needs but for me I like both options. I use the larger device at home and the smaller at work and for travel.
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There is also the Dell Latitude ST, a 10 in. Atom tablet and the only one in the market that have a REMOVABLE battery. Sorry I don't play games so I can't comment on games, but if other Atom tablet can play games then the Dell Latitude ST should be fine.

I dot Vivo Tab TF810c and I am perfectly happy with it. If you got any questions - shoot.

thanks so much! it's so hard to choose
i just wish the microsft surface wasn't "RT" it looks so nice!
and i like the Asus tivo smart (me400c) but it doesn't have a full USB port

With Vivo Tab you can get 2 full USB ports in dock.
And batt. life is amazing - I charge it once a week (just in case, not that it needs it - but I just feel guilty...) and use it every evening.

galtom said:
I dot Vivo Tab TF810c and I am perfectly happy with it. If you got any questions - shoot.
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looks like but about $300 over my price, i can afford that but i don't know if i wanna spend that much on a tablet

Well, I had the same problem as Vivo Tab is.... pricey...
Right now I do not regret a single penny spend on this device (Is still have iPad 3G and had Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 for a while).
It is amazing how it is built, and how Atom nice works inside. Always cool, with nice keyboard dock (battery life already mentioned). Thin, light and does everything I need.
It will stay with me for next few years,,,

galtom said:
Well, I had the same problem as Vivo Tab is.... pricey...
Right now I do not regret a single penny spend on this device (Is still have iPad 3G and had Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 for a while).
It is amazing how it is built, and how Atom nice works inside. Always cool, with nice keyboard dock (battery life already mentioned). Thin, light and does everything I need.
It will stay with me for next few years,,,
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i gotta find a store that sells it cheap here, only one store i can think of is Harvey Norman but they want $1086 That's diffently abit much, for a tablet as my macbook air suits me fine

I paid in Poland 3799 zl this is a bit over $1100 (with 2 yr warranty included).

galtom said:
I paid in Poland 3799 zl this is a bit over $1100 (with 2 yr warranty included).
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wow, i suppose i could buy one from USA Asus Vivo Tab TF810C $809 I'd assume it'd work in Australia i'd just need a different charger but if its just a normal USB charger thing i got hundreads of them anyway

JakeyPie said:
wow, i suppose i could buy one from USA Asus Vivo Tab TF810C $809 I'd assume it'd work in Australia i'd just need a different charger but if its just a normal USB charger thing i got hundreads of them anyway
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You get seperate charger + USB cable with "special" plaug for device. This means it can be used with any USB charger.

galtom said:
You get seperate charger + USB cable with "special" plaug for device. This means it can be used with any USB charger.
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so perfect
how is the app development like is there alot of games etc avalible everyone on youtube complains there isn't anything availble not that i care just curious never used windows 8

I am not sure what you mean - it has normal Windows 8 on board so everything that is working on Win7 & 8 and probably 99% of software from Vista and XP will work on it.
If you are asking about Modern UI apps.. than check MS Store. In general apps for Modern UI are leisure apps - not for work but for relax - Netflix, Hulu Plus, some games, drawing apps, etc... work you do on normal apps in desktop mode.

galtom said:
I am not sure what you mean - it has normal Windows 8 on board so everything that is working on Win7 & 8 and probably 99% of software from Vista and XP will work on it.
If you are asking about Modern UI apps.. than check MS Store. In general apps for Modern UI are leisure apps - not for work but for relax - Netflix, Hulu Plus, some games, drawing apps, etc... work you do on normal apps in desktop mode.
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yeah i meant the MS store sorry haha and cool

Oh... well. It is not perfect but it is growing daily.
Point is that because you can use normal apps on it even if MS Store lacks something it is not really an issue.
As there is ZERO such apps for XP, Vista and 7 and no one ever complained about it saying - look Windows suck because for iOS you got thousands of apps.
You will definitely find something cool for evening time!

[Q] Advent Vega Tegra 4 Note 7

What do people think about the new Advent Vega Tegra 4 Note 7???
http://gadgetshow.channel5.com/gadg...-tegra-note-7-has-plenty-of-power-on-a-budget

dpjockey said:
What do people think about the new Advent Vega Tegra 4 Note 7???
http://gadgetshow.channel5.com/gadg...-tegra-note-7-has-plenty-of-power-on-a-budget
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so tempted to get one!
http://www.pcworld.co.uk/gbuk/lapto...a-tegra-note-7-tablet-16-gb-21812495-pdt.html
question is... can it get Root!?
Edit: Just brought it

181jenkins said:
so tempted to get one!
http://www.pcworld.co.uk/gbuk/lapto...a-tegra-note-7-tablet-16-gb-21812495-pdt.html
question is... can it get Root!?
Edit: Just brought it
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I've been holding out, really wanted a nexus 7, but for this price the spec seems insane. any feedback jenkins? Love it? hate it?

I'm likely to get one of these. Looks brilliant.
Question is, will PC World (or someone else in the UK) be stocking the slide cover? It's not shown on the site, and it look like a really nice addition to the device.
The other question, for me, is will it support GameStream?

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I'm likely to get one of these. Looks brilliant.
Question is, will PC World (or someone else in the UK) be stocking the slide cover? It's not shown on the site, and it look like a really nice addition to the device.
The other question, for me, is will it support GameStream?
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Apparently the cover will be another few weeks in arriving in Currys/PC World, and less than 1 for 1 availability to begin with against the tablet so get in there quick on the order if you want the official magnetic cover.

Clean UI. SD card slot. Neat thin-nibbed capacitive stylus - better than expected given passive and feels more pleasantly substantive than S-Pen.
Needs root to get rid of all Google extras (most of which I personally do not want). Seems worryingly slow to recharge for some reason. Factory reset once as whole system slowed down. Form factor utilitarian (but I quite like it).

hey guys just some feed back i have my Note, and i love it. its Crazy fast. and for performance , its at the top of all benchmarks iv tried its a bit heaver than the nexus 7 (2013), my mother has one, and a bit dimmer and yes the screen rez is alot lower on the note, BUT, the games look amazing. not only that but for when using it with say... PPSSPP, you see a bit frame jump. just need to wait for the dev's to fix for specific games. the front camera is shocking.. but you will never use that. and for the back, its fun and has slow-mo, which made me and my misses laugh a bit. the pen is amazing too, Very fast response time, and very good to use with Fruit ninja, and cut the rope for example, for web surfing, its Fast i mean Really fast compared the the old nexus 7. the speakers are Very loud and clear.
over all i love this.! just waiting on the slide case and the other pens to come out!

Picked up mine yesterday and so far very pleased. Its worlds apart from my original Vega!
Hoping to grab the official cover soon as available.
The screen is supposedly the same as the original Nexus 7 and is more decent though not retina searingly bright which I don't mind.
Dead Trigger 2 works beautifully at max detail. I played using my Ouya controller which paired perfectly and just needed to remap controls to pad buttons.
Lots of things to try out in the coming days.

Glad to hear it guys, I should be picking mine up soon. I've been really reading into this tablet and not a lot seems to be going on in the realms of root etc.
I have found this though:
http://b.it168.com/thread-4737246-1-1.html
http://b.it168.com/thread-4736898-1-1.html
Definitely needs translating though as I cant read chinese. This seems to be based on the same tablet platform but has no Gapps? I wouldnt try it out but could be a decent start?

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Glad to hear it guys, I should be picking mine up soon. I've been really reading into this tablet and not a lot seems to be going on in the realms of root etc.
I have found this though:
http://b.it168.com/thread-4737246-1-1.html
http://b.it168.com/thread-4736898-1-1.html
Definitely needs translating though as I cant read chinese. This seems to be based on the same tablet platform but has no Gapps? I wouldnt try it out but could be a decent start?
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I am hoping for a little more support and a root for mine too. hopefully someone smarter than me can figure it out.
Brew

can anyone get the USB Drivers to work ? cant get it to connect

If you are looking for a root tool try this thread -: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2541784:

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can anyone get the USB Drivers to work ? cant get it to connect
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Yes,
When its plugged in, did it say that "fastboot" drivers couldnt be installed? Go to settings-about the tablet. tap on the build number until developer options are unlocked. activate usb debugging. drivers will reinstall and viola! working drivers.

just a update, i got it working thanks.. im not "new" to rooting and flashing. the problem was windows 8.1, the silly thing is... i had to install the media pack, because im on w windows 8.1 (N), So just look out for all of you having problems. i was having the same problem with my galaxy note n7000,, then i installed windows meda pack, and it work's, Thanks anyway though

got mine today, this tablet is fast very fast compared to my nexus 7 2012.
has anyone got a nexus 7 2013 and this tegra note? what sort of speed difference is there between the two?
everything on my tablet seems to be working fine. GPS has not acquired a fix yet but I haven't played much with it yet to do some in depth testing.

Agreed
Had mine abut 5 weeks now. First unit came with defective SD slot, but was exchanged, new unit 100%
Faassst... responsive , great for gaming and multimedia
Only downsides so far are screen resolution could be better and wireless is 802.11 b/g/n I would have preferred 802.11 a/b/g/n- basically 1080p across a (fairly well saturated) wireless connection stutters, played from local media is fine
Nice piece of kit. Switched "down" from a 10.1' tablet for the gaming performance and actually prefer this form factor. All round pleased.

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Had mine abut 5 weeks now. First unit came with defective SD slot, but was exchanged, new unit 100%
Faassst... responsive , great for gaming and multimedia
Only downsides so far are screen resolution could be better and wireless is 802.11 b/g/n I would have preferred 802.11 a/b/g/n- basically 1080p across a (fairly well saturated) wireless connection stutters, played from local media is fine
Nice piece of kit. Switched "down" from a 10.1' tablet for the gaming performance and actually prefer this form factor. All round pleased.
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In what way was your SD slot defective? I'm having some issues with mine, just wondering what symptoms you had?

Shark3y said:
In what way was your SD slot defective? I'm having some issues with mine, just wondering what symptoms you had?
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sorry for delay in reply. It was very difficult to insert micro SD . When it was inserted it was hit and miss if it was recognised. The mini USB (charge) cable was also iffy. It seemed like the main board was misaligned from the port holes in the case.
Anybody found a decent case yet.

Hi , I am also trying to find a case but can't find any gel cases for it.
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Advent Vega Tegra Note 7 wifi
hi after getting the screen replaced on my Advent Vega Tegra Note 7 the WIFI wont stay connected. i can sit my tablet right next to the router and i get some signal. if i take it to the next room i loose it. be four i got the screen replaced it picked the signal up to problem through the flat.
hellp i have no clew at all.

Farewell Note Pro 12.2

After soul searching for a few weeks I decided to sell my 12.2. I really wanted a one device replacement for my tablets and laptop. As much as I tried, this just did not fit the bill. I was also surprised at the lack of any development on this tablet.
It is a solid device but needs a dock in my opinion and can't quite service all my needs in one device.
Bye bye 12.2. It was fun for a while.

Yeah I don't know if you're like me but as much as I wish for it there will never be a true "laptop replacement" other than a laptop itself lol. I always cringe a little when new users come to the note pro forums here or on Android Central and ask if these devices would serve them well as a laptop replacement. Truth is they do for some use cases but not all.
Sorry things didn't work out for you. It's too bad about lack of development too. Taking matters into ones own hands by using things like xposed gives some relief but it's not the same as true custom roms.
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So, what you end up getting?

Moderate Replacment ?
Mike02z said:
After soul searching for a few weeks I decided to sell my 12.2. I really wanted a one device replacement for my tablets and laptop. As much as I tried, this just did not fit the bill. I was also surprised at the lack of any development on this tablet.
It is a solid device but needs a dock in my opinion and can't quite service all my needs in one device.
Bye bye 12.2. It was fun for a while.
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muzzy996 said:
Yeah I don't know if you're like me but as much as I wish for it there will never be a true "laptop replacement" other than a laptop itself lol. I always cringe a little when new users come to the note pro forums here or on Android Central and ask if these devices would serve them well as a laptop replacement. Truth is they do for some use cases but not all.
Sorry things didn't work out for you. It's too bad about lack of development too. Taking matters into ones own hands by using things like xposed gives some relief but it's not the same as true custom roms.
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petercohen said:
So, what you end up getting?
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Im looking to use this as a light laptop replacement for school. I have a large 17.3 inch laptop that I lug around and i commute so its starting to be a pain. I want to use this for notes, writing in class , going over power points and light work. I will leave the serious stuff for my laptop at home. I will probably buy a Bluetooth keyboard and mouse. Do you think the device can cover these areas well ?

I went with a big i7 Surface 3. I had a lot of Amazon gift cards. With the dock, I'm thinking it *may* be my one device solution. Time will tell....

naruto.ninjakid said:
Im looking to use this as a light laptop replacement for school. I have a large 17.3 inch laptop that I lug around and i commute so its starting to be a pain. I want to use this for notes, writing in class , going over power points and light work. I will leave the serious stuff for my laptop at home. I will probably buy a Bluetooth keyboard and mouse. Do you think the device can cover these areas well ?
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"Well" is subjective, particularly when it comes to generalized requirements. Take an existing powerpoint done on a computer that has complicated transitions and embedded objects and all bets are off as to whether or not the tablet will handle it "well" if at all.
I'm an engineer so I always err on the side of conservatism so I can't go on record telling you it will fit your needs perfectly. That said I think in general yeah you should be okay provided your specific requirements with regards to office file compatibility are not too high.

naruto.ninjakid said:
Im looking to use this as a light laptop replacement for school. I have a large 17.3 inch laptop that I lug around and i commute so its starting to be a pain. I want to use this for notes, writing in class , going over power points and light work. I will leave the serious stuff for my laptop at home. I will probably buy a Bluetooth keyboard and mouse. Do you think the device can cover these areas well ?
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It varies from person to person. I've used it for that in my last year and it served it's purpose well. (With a Logitech K810). As for if it will work for you, I can not say.
Mike02z said:
I went with a big i7 Surface 3. I had a lot of Amazon gift cards. With the dock, I'm thinking it *may* be my one device solution. Time will tell....
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I really like the idea of the Surface. It's just such a shame they had to use a 1990's level GPU. You get an i7, 16GB RAM.... and an Intel HD 4000. If there was ever the definition of a bottleneck, it's an Intel HD. That piece of junk is not worth 2000 quid. Not worth 800, either. 150, maybe.
I require a dedicated GPU for my day to day usage of a laptop (Design/Gaming).
If the Surface 4 gets an Nvidia, now that will be worth considering.

I do no gaming and no graphic design work so it seems to be just want I needed. So far, so good.
I don't think the Surface 3 Pro is advertised anywhere as a gamer machine.

Mike02z said:
I do no gaming and no graphic design work so it seems to be just want I needed. So far, so good.
I don't think the Surface 3 Pro is advertised anywhere as a gamer machine.
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I know. And if you're happy with it, don't let me stop you. (no really, I mean it. This is just my opinion, you don't need my opinion to enjoy your device )
I just don't think it's worth the price it sells for. Not in terms of hardware.
My laptop has an IntelHD 4000 and an Nvidia 740M. (That requires some managing as a gamer.) Inside is the same range of an i7 and 16GB RAM. When I select the IntelHD as the device to play a 2k film, it freezes every few minutes, botches up the render of several shot switches and if it's 4K, simply doesn't even get past the very first frame. The sound plays, but the video simply can't be rendered.
That's how weak an Intel HD is. Now tell me, is that worth 800 quid? Let alone 2000?
I like the idea, I really, really do. And if they add an Nvidia, I will absolutely buy the top-tier one.
But I can't understand why people would pay so much for such outdated and lousy tech.(But then, I feel the same about Apple users.) Or why companies are so utterly stupid in adding them. It's bloody difficult to even find a decent laptop below 8000 quid that doesn't have one of those useless Intel HD's. Intel HD should've been banned from the market year ago since the Family 4.

I recently had the Surface Pro 3 and it really was a solid device. I actually returned my Wi-Fi GNP12.2 to get it. But for what it cost, I really expected more. That device needs broadwell. Thermal issues and such really prevent you from taking advantage of it's higher potential performance capability. It ended up being a basic media and light productivity device, for which I found the Galaxy Note Pro 12.2 to be fully capable of doing, for considerably less money.
I decided to go back to the GNP12.2, except this time I went with the SM-P907A as my "small notebook replacement" device. Add in the solid Samsung keyboard case, S Mouse, and I'm ready to roll. The Snapdragon still does it's thing better than the Exynos, I've got LTE everywhere (love that feature), and with the right apps, it really has been able to do everything I need out a portable computing device. I mean, it's light, excellent battery life, crisp screen... the list goes on.
Keeping in mind, I do have a more powerful 15" Ultrabook and high-end fixed workstation for more demanding tasks. But for the day-to-day mobile stuff, it's been working great for me. Well, at least until something more interesting comes along. With that said, I do agree it's not for everybody. Nothing ever is. But probably at least worth giving a shot for many. Either way, good luck! :good:

Mike02z said:
I went with a big i7 Surface 3. I had a lot of Amazon gift cards. With the dock, I'm thinking it *may* be my one device solution. Time will tell....
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Hey man I am in the same boat. I just went through Dell Venue 8 pro-->11 pro--> Note 10.1 2014--> note pro 12.2. All in the matter of like a month.....
I have this to say about them all.
Dell venue series I bought out of a desire to try and stay cheap but still have an active digitizer. I am trying to digitize all of my notes for my masters program so that when I write my thesis it will all be accessible in one place. Venue 8 was too small, 10 was underpowered and the active digitizer on both was crap, I mean really bad. The note 10.1 was great but I wanted some more real estate so I went with the 12.2 for a week or so. Since it is the thread I am writing in I will make a few observations
1. Great tab overall, well powered but overwhelmed by Samsung TW UI, easy to take care of with root/greenify and what not.
2. For importing the pdfs and ppts from lecture it just took forever, I played with some different note taking apps and I always ended up with the S-pen app which is awesome, but it would not handle my 1000+ page books at all. I don't know how long I waited for snote to import it and then it crashed. What a shame because it was a champ otherwise.
3. One thing both the notes had for me was the multiwindow function, watch a lecture and take notes at the same time, but I noticed when I was streaming lectures that were in HD I would get some lags from the Snore and Spen. Again shame because I know the tab has the power to run it but I am guessing that its the TW issues again.
4. Why I ended up going elsewhere.(surface 3 i3)
- I want to get rid of carrying around my old 09 MBP and become a little more streamlined. I am relinquishing my MBP to be a home desktop/server since I dropped an extra 4gigs of ram and a 1TB HD in it through the years. This tab just didn't do it for me. It was soooooooo soooooo close but it just didn't quite get there from a productivity standpoint FOR ME.
5. I am a flashaholic with my phone sooooooo having something to run Odin/LGflashtool on when I am on the go would be nice so that I don't have to worry about ending up in bootloops and not have a phone the rest of the day.
Note to Samsung if you are reading this.
First, bravo on a great tab, seriously it is an awesome machine but
Second, get out of the way of the android experience a little(read a lot) more and let the hardware shine. I would love to see the android L update on this tab with a minimized TW UI so that you can really see the beast that is in the tablet.
I have gone from cheap to some of the best hybrid tablets you can go and I have this to say. The Note pro may be for you because its awesome but know what you need and what you don't. If you are trying to replace a laptop then the Note pro may not be for you unless you are talking about partial replacement to just carry around during the day and then use the big laptop back home, it may work then. BUT, if you want a true laptop replacement, like leave your old one to collect dust it may not be right for you.
Just trying to prevent so many open box items at my local best buy........
-Ice3186

I too use this tablet for school and for the price ($416 on ebay) it's a miracle device. I tried the surface pro 3 and the handwriting was not as good which was a deal breaker for at its price ($999 for the i5). I chose to just acept that ill have to carry around my toshiba a little while longer. snote is a underpowered app with frustrating lag when navigating through different ui but still the best there is. As a side note, I'm not sure why to would want to import pdfs into it when you can multi window them in a reader.

Tsk_Tsk_Tsk said:
I too use this tablet for school and for the price ($416 on ebay) it's a miracle device. I tried the surface pro 3 and the handwriting was not as good which was a deal breaker for at its price ($999 for the i5). I chose to just acept that ill have to carry around my toshiba a little while longer. snote is a underpowered app with frustrating lag when navigating through different ui but still the best there is. As a side note, I'm not sure why to would want to import pdfs into it when you can multi window them in a reader.
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Even as a power user, I have had no problem using the NP12.2 as a primary enterprise device. I travel a lot for business, do presentations and lecturing and so forth. My demands are quite high and I have loved the 12.2. On the occasion that I have needed something more powerful, the use of one of the remote apps (I like PhoneMyPC and have used it for years) works just fine as long as I keep my laptop at home, powered on, and connected to the internet. Then, when I need a file or something from the PC, well... that is what Dropbox is for. Couple the NP12.2 with a bluetooth keyboard case (and mouse if you need it) and it has been the best tablet that I have ever used, and I owned the first 10.1 android tablet two days after it came out.