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Hey guys
I bought my nexus one the week it came out and have been putting up with edge for a while. I have wifi at home and work so I haven't had to suffer too much.
I have had ATT for 5-6 years and have been off contract for a while.
I looked at T-Mobile's pricing for their Even More+ no contract plans and I am paying about the same amount per month as the 500min+text+web plan.
I know reception will vary by area but I live and typically stay in the Pittsburgh area.
My current choices are:
1. Keep my nexus and stay on ATT (not likely)
2. Keep my nexus and switch to T-Mobile
3. Sell my Nexus and buy the ATT compatible version and stick with ATT (seems like too much work and will likely cost me more)
What would you guys recommend?
Thanks for the help!!
TMO is awful in my area so when I was deciding the same, I went with selling my launch nexus one and buying the ATT compat. version. I have been quite pleased with my speeds (2.xMbps down / 1.x Mbps up) on average.
You can sell your phone on ebay for about 500 (that's what mine went for) and in the end, a new one will run you about 30 dollars.
it depends on where you live. If you live in a major area like NYC where tmobile has good 3G coverage then get tmobile, it will be cheaper and tmobile doesnt screw you over in ways that att does.
Just do what's best in your situation. I was a long time AT&T sub as well. I moved to T-Mobile because I like the Even More Plus plan, fits my usage on my phone as well as my budget. Plus it's easier to turn in my phone bill on my expense report at work.
degs said:
Hey guys
I bought my nexus one the week it came out and have been putting up with edge for a while. I have wifi at home and work so I haven't had to suffer too much.
I have had ATT for 5-6 years and have been off contract for a while.
I looked at T-Mobile's pricing for their Even More+ no contract plans and I am paying about the same amount per month as the 500min+text+web plan.
I know reception will vary by area but I live and typically stay in the Pittsburgh area.
My current choices are:
1. Keep my nexus and stay on ATT (not likely)
2. Keep my nexus and switch to T-Mobile
3. Sell my Nexus and buy the ATT compatible version and stick with ATT (seems like too much work and will likely cost me more)
What would you guys recommend?
Thanks for the help!!
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Sign up for tmobile and evaluate their reception in your area, you have 14 days if you don't like it before commiting.
I looked at T-Mobile's pricing for their Even More+ no contract plans and I am paying about the same amount per month as the 500min+text+web plan.
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Don't forget to factor that if you stay with AT&T you will pay $30/mo for smartphone data, not $15 for medianet. AT&T will auto upgrade you to the smartphone data if you're currently on medianet.
T-Mobile is definitely way cheaper overall, you can even get 500 mins + unlimited text for $39, then get the web2go plan (using the internet2.voicestream.com APN on your phone, instead of epc.tmobile.com) for $10. Total will be $49 which is a great deal - AT&T can't beat that.
At the same time although its cheaper with T-mobile....The signal in most cities switches between edge and 3g alot of the time....And alot of buildings you will go straight to edge. And edge for me dosent even work! So although i have T-mobile if sprint wasnt coming i would go with AT&T. "Personal experience/advice"
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At the same time although its cheaper with T-mobile....The signal in most cities switches between edge and 3g alot of the time....And alot of buildings you will go straight to edge. And edge for me dosent even work! So although i have T-mobile if sprint wasnt coming i would go with AT&T. "Personal experience/advice"
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True, in some buildings you will have to deal with EDGE (but of course, you may also have wifi in the building to make up for that)...
But in and around NYC, you're pretty much guaranteed to have 3G, and it works quite well.
gsvnet said:
Don't forget to factor that if you stay with AT&T you will pay $30/mo for smartphone data, not $15 for medianet. AT&T will auto upgrade you to the smartphone data if you're currently on medianet.
T-Mobile is definitely way cheaper overall, you can even get 500 mins + unlimited text for $39, then get the web2go plan (using the internet2.voicestream.com APN on your phone, instead of epc.tmobile.com) for $10. Total will be $49 which is a great deal - AT&T can't beat that.
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Well I currently pay 19.99 a month for internet with ATT. I have the OLD "smartphone" that I picked up when I got my 8525. I had that for almost 3 years and then just finished up a year with an E71(not X) and never had a problem.
What's this web2go you speak of?(I'll go search the forums as well)
I'll also have to find out if I can get a student discount with T-Mo like I do with ATT.
Thanks for all the help so far! Hopefully I don't come across as stupid or anything. I own a small deli/restaurant and work about 12 hours a day. My father has been in the hospital for a while and I am also taking care of the rest of my family so my time has become extremely limited.
Obviously I've been trying to find ways to reduce costs. 49 a month would be amazing
I've had both and prefer T-Mobile.. they have far better customer service, and their coverage here in north San Diego is far superior.. I get HSDPA speeds everywhere I go with T-Mobile and no more dropped calls.
Personally, I'd go for T-Mobile if I were you. You guys already have access to the 3MBit 3G service over there.
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Sign up for tmobile and evaluate their reception in your area, you have 14 days if you don't like it before commiting.
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If he's signing up for an Even More Plus plan then he has as long as he wants to cancel - there is no contract. Since he already has the N1 this would be the best type of plan to get.
Well I think that I will try to swing by a T-Mobile store tomorrow if I have time.
I'll get a SIM card and an Even More Plus plan. 500min+Text and web2go.
Has anyone had any problems using web2go with the nexus?
I'll try to see if I can get the activation fee waived and also add a student discount.
Anyone have any experience with porting a number later on? I'd like to try it for a week or so before porting my ATT number over and cutting that account(if I'm happy)
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Well I think that I will try to swing by a T-Mobile store tomorrow if I have time.
I'll get a SIM card and an Even More Plus plan. 500min+Text and web2go.
Has anyone had any problems using web2go with the nexus?
I'll try to see if I can get the activation fee waived and also add a student discount.
Anyone have any experience with porting a number later on? I'd like to try it for a week or so before porting my ATT number over and cutting that account(if I'm happy)
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The Even More Plus plans already include data. I'm using it myself with the 500 minute tier plan just fine with my N1.
edit: I ported too and that took a few hours and was fairly painless from AT&T
I'd stay with AT&T if I were you.
I switched to t-mobile from at&t to get the n1 with 3g coverage and I can honestly say in Houston, at&t has far more coverage and is faster.
I had pretty much the same choice between AT&T and T-Mobile, and I ended up just sticking with AT&T and buying the compatible version because I split my time between Pennsylvania and Virginia, and T-Mo coverage in Virginia is spotty at best (even with AT&T roaming agreements).
However, since you're Pittsburgh, it might be good to take the 14 evaluation period as others have said and see if your happy with T-Mobile in the area (plus the rate plans with data will be comparable, or T-Mo will be slightly cheaper).
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T-Mobile is definitely way cheaper overall, you can even get 500 mins + unlimited text for $39, then get the web2go plan (using the internet2.voicestream.com APN on your phone, instead of epc.tmobile.com) for $10. Total will be $49 which is a great deal - AT&T can't beat that.
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I was told the $10 plan was not 3G, only edge, is this true?
Please. I too would be very interested in finding out if I can use this service to access the internet with my N1. I am currently a T-Mobile Customer using the N1 with the usual plan one gets with this phone.
jimbobalu said:
I was told the $10 plan was not 3G, only edge, is this true?
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No - it's full 3G for $10. You just have to use internet2.voicestream.com as the APN.
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No - it's full 3G for $10. You just have to use internet2.voicestream.com as the APN.
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So is there something special I need to tell the salesperson or something I have to do to my phone to use internet2.voicestream.com?
Thanks
Sorry first time trying a phone other then cdma. If i get the galaxy note 2 on att when it comes out and order a straight talk sim can i just slip it into the att galaxy note 2 and have hspa+ working. I want to try straight talk first because i here good and bad stories and if it sucks i can just cancel my contract within 14 days for att. Atleast so i can try out the note 2 to see if i like it. Once again i never had a sim card phone so im kinda clueless if i can swap them freely for tmobile and att phones or if i have to get an unlocked international version.
If you buy an AT& T phone, it will indeed work with an AT& T SIM card from ST (without being unlocked).
However, if I read your post correctly, you're going to get the phone on (an) AT& T subsidized (plan) then put a ST SIM in it? You DO realize that you will then have to pay AT& T a monthly fee and still pay ST their fee (even is it's month to month without a contract)....that makes no sense. You're paying an extra 45$ a month that you don't have to, on top of AT& T' s monthly fees....
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Lol i know im just wanted to get the note 2 to try and try out straight talks sim for att and see within 14 days if they cancel or slow my speeds like i hear so many people say. I guess i could just buy the phone at att without a contract to right? And use it for 14 days to see if i like it and return it if i dont
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Lol i know im just wanted to get the note 2 to try and try out straight talks sim for att and see within 14 days if they cancel or slow my speeds like i hear so many people say. I guess i could just buy the phone at att without a contract to right? And use it for 14 days to see if i like it and return it if i dont
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Yes. It really depends on your area and how you set the APN (with or without proxy), that dictates speed. (Mostly area). ST on the AT&T side is pretty strict on data USAGE though. Most have found that staying under a 100MB per day/2GB per month is acceptable. Any more and you can not only be throttled but, they can (and will) shut off your service without notice or refund.
That being said, if your are aware of the cons to ST, many have found that the service works well for them and they are extremely happy with the price.
If you live in an area that T-Mobile has refarmed their 1900mHz band to HSPA+ you can get a T-Mobile ST (and use it on "4G") (or a T-Mobile SIM, prepaid or otherwise) and use that phone (unlocked only of course) that way. Some have found the T-Mobile side of ST to be more lenient with data usage policies.
If you don't talk much (and your area has been refarmed and your phone unlocked) the 30$ plan (only available at Wal-Mart or on T-Mobile.com) with 100 minutes, unlimited texts and 5GB data is a another option.
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Yes. It really depends on your area and how you set the APN (with or without proxy), that dictates speed. (Mostly area). ST on the AT&T side is pretty strict on data USAGE though. Most have found that staying under a 100MB per day/2GB per month is acceptable. Any more and you can not only be throttled but, they can (and will) shut off your service without notice or refund.
That being said, if your are aware of the cons to ST, many have found that the service works well for them and they are extremely happy with the price.
If you live in an area that T-Mobile has refarmed their 1900mHz band to HSPA+ you can get a T-Mobile ST (and use it on "4G") (or a T-Mobile SIM, prepaid or otherwise) and use that phone (unlocked only of course) that way. Some have found the T-Mobile side of ST to be more lenient with data usage policies.
If you don't talk much (and your area has been refarmed and your phone unlocked) the 30$ plan (only available at Wal-Mart or on T-Mobile.com) with 100 minutes, unlimited texts and 5GB data is a another option.
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Good info here. To add to it, you can check for your area being refarmed if it has T-Mobile 3g on your network scan. Or you can check airportal.de where users have reported the refarm.
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Currently using Net 10 wireless, which has announced it will throttle AT&T sim card users after 1.5GB per month.
T-Mobile is absolutely horrible at my house, which I will need to live at for the next 3-6 months. I would need to work out a Call Forwarding solution and they only do that for post-paid customers, which I am not looking to get locked into a contract.
Are my options bleak? I think AT&T Straight Talk is about to go through the same capped/throttling plan since they are owned by tracfone.
My research into other AT&T MVNOs have shown time and time a get to be fruitless ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_mobile_virtual_network_operators) as each has a similar cap.
Am I destined to get the short end of the stick until I move back into a major metro area?
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Currently using Net 10 wireless, which has announced it will throttle AT&T sim card users after 1.5GB per month.
T-Mobile is absolutely horrible at my house, which I will need to live at for the next 3-6 months. I would need to work out a Call Forwarding solution and they only do that for post-paid customers, which I am not looking to get locked into a contract.
Are my options bleak? I think AT&T Straight Talk is about to go through the same capped/throttling plan since they are owned by tracfone.
My research into other AT&T MVNOs have shown time and time a get to be fruitless ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_mobile_virtual_network_operators) as each has a similar cap.
Am I destined to get the short end of the stick until I move back into a major metro area?
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I don't mind the cap since I have wifi wherever I go. But yes every ATT MNVO has caps for similar prices. Tmo/sprint is last to have unlimited. And tmo throttles after a certain amount. But tmo coverage sux in many areas why I left them for net10 att sim.
AT&T is throttling pretty much all MVNO's after 1.5 GB, I don't know of one that's not hit by this. AT&T's cheapest plan is limited to 1 GB of data at around $60/month so is no bargain.
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AT&T is throttling pretty much all MVNO's after 1.5 GB, I don't know of one that's not hit by this. AT&T's cheapest plan is limited to 1 GB of data at around $60/month so is no bargain.
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Red Pocket and H20 Wireless both have 2gb plans but are around $60 dollars as well. both are Att.mvno my friend uses red pocket and he is pretty happy with them.
I've got just a few more months on my ATT contract. I searched and did not find a straight answer. Straight talk was my plan but it seems they are not selling the ATT sim cards anymore. I don't think the T-Mobile network is as good in the Charlotte area. What network does net 10 use? Is it as good as straight talk? Is anybody in the Charlotte area using the T-Mobile straight talk or net 10 on the nexus 4?
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Net10 bounces between AT&T and T-Mobile towers, making it an ideal third party hybrid service provider, since it supports both GSM networks.
However, from what I have heard they have daily data caps which when you hit it they will throttle you. Plus it's third party pre-paid, which means service will be bottom of the barrel. I'd rather pay $65 a month on AT&T prepaid if you don't want to go T-Mobile, which has $70 unlimited 4g.
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I've got just a few more months on my ATT contract. I searched and did not find a straight answer. Straight talk was my plan but it seems they are not selling the ATT sim cards anymore. I don't think the T-Mobile network is as good in the Charlotte area. What network does net 10 use? Is it as good as straight talk? Is anybody in the Charlotte area using the T-Mobile straight talk or net 10 on the nexus 4?
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Net10 and straight talk are the same service/company, both tracfone parent. Straight talk is just a deal with Walmart giving a slight discount.
Recently net10 announced att byop would no longer be unlimited and capped at 1.5g data.
Straight talk no longer offers the att byop Sim on their site. You can still find and activate them. So far st has not followed with any changes, although we know att does indeed throttle data speeds randomly at their whim.. YMMV
Here's some details;
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2120957
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1996686
Damn. Thanks for the info. I hate that ST stopped selling att sims. I would do T-Mobile but I don't think their coverage is as good in this area. More dead spots and such.
I'd definitely go net 10, but they are killing us with the new data cap. BS. I don't know what to do now. I already pay 150$ month for ATT unlimited with a 6 GB shared plan, 2 phones. I bought the nexus 4 intending to get away from their contract, but I don't want to get data capped on net 10, or get worse coverage with T-Mobile version of ST. I don't know what to do.
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Damn. Thanks for the info. I hate that ST stopped selling att sims. I would do T-Mobile but I don't think their coverage is as good in this area. More dead spots and such.
I'd definitely go net 10, but they are killing us with the new data cap. BS. I don't know what to do now. I already pay 150$ month for ATT unlimited with a 6 GB shared plan, 2 phones. I bought the nexus 4 intending to get away from their contract, but I don't want to get data capped on net 10, or get worse coverage with T-Mobile version of ST. I don't know what to do.
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Well feeling kinda bad for you. So first are you off contract? You could try pay as you go on tmo for a month and see how it works out for you.
Another option if you're set on using att is you can buy an st byop att Sim on ebay or save money and buy a net10 att Sim. And activate it on straight talk.com instead. They should be interchangeable, and only cost $1+/- shipped..
I had att st couldn't stand being throttled randomly by att. St had no control over it either.
I switched to Walmart/tmo $30 plan which was passable.
Enough so I just switch back to st but on tmo.
I agree with clock on trying tmobile out for a month and seeing if it meets your needs. You can get a micro sim activation kit for free on the tmobile website on their deals page atm. I live outside of Charlotte(Gastonia, dont judge lol) and their reception can be hit or miss but most places i go i get 1-4 bars which is good enough for me. Even at 1-2 bars i get around 10Mbps down and 1 up with a ping around 500-600ms. On another note they are going to an uncarrier strategy(no annual contract on postpaid starting late March), so basically all plans start with $50 for unl talk and text and 500mb data, anything over 500 they will charge $10 for every 2gb up to 12gb cutoff. I think there will be a $70 unl everything plan that includes mobile hotspot. I hope this helps some.
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I agree with clock on trying tmobile out for a month and seeing if it meets your needs. You can get a micro sim activation kit for free on the tmobile website on their deals page atm. I live outside of Charlotte(Gastonia, dont judge lol) and their reception can be hit or miss but most places i go i get 1-4 bars which is good enough for me. Even at 1-2 bars i get around 10Mbps down and 1 up with a ping around 500-600ms. On another note they are going to an uncarrier strategy(no annual contract on postpaid starting late March), so basically all plans start with $50 for unl talk and text and 500mb data, anything over 500 they will charge $10 for every 2gb up to 12gb cutoff. I think there will be a $70 unl everything plan that includes mobile hotspot. I hope this helps some.
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I'm actually in Lowell, (close enough to Gastonia) but work in Charlotte. I do have a little bit of time left on one of the two contracts with ATT. I was going to try to buy out the remainder of the time and break the contract if I was going to save $50 on two phones because I'd make it back in a few months and get unlimited data along with the unlimited talk/text I already enjoy.
I may go ahead and try the net 10. The website still says unlimited data, I heard (on these forums) they announced a data cap but still advertise unlimited on their website. I'm not sure what's up with that. 10 down and 1 up is plenty for me. Usually I'm only downloading new ROMs to flash anyway along with general web and forum browsing.
About that plan with $50 and only 500mb, that would cost me usually 60$-70/month and at that point I might as well stay with ATT and not be on borrowed bandwidth.
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I am currently on At&t and paying about $100 a month for my Nexus 4 with 3GB of data and Unlimited texts. Now I see this straight talk by walmart for $45 unlimited everything. That is one great deal. But as usual the old saying if it sounds to good to be true it usual is comes to mind. I'm in the Bay Area so coverage is good. I usually never leave this area too much. Is Straight talk a good service and worth it or are their hidden problems with it?
I've been on it two months no issues. I'm using Tmobile on ST and I love it the only thing I hated was that I had to cut my sim card. If you stick with ATT you won't have that issue. Since you are with ATT I heard after 1.5gb ST may throttle you or contact you to in regards to your data.
ATT is data stingy.
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Can I get the T-Mobile sim if I am on At&t? And do they offer LTE now or in the future?
Each sim is separate so if I took a att sim I couldn't just say I want Tmobile service.
The nexus4 isn't officially 4g compatible so.... I'm not sure how to answer your second question.
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I am currently on At&t and paying about $100 a month for my Nexus 4 with 3GB of data and Unlimited texts. Now I see this straight talk by walmart for $45 unlimited everything. That is one great deal. But as usual the old saying if it sounds to good to be true it usual is comes to mind. I'm in the Bay Area so coverage is good. I usually never leave this area too much. Is Straight talk a good service and worth it or are their hidden problems with it?
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ST AT&T will throttle down to 2G speeds after 1.5 GB in a month (or less as some have reported in the threads) and they also have daily data usage limits. People also report being throttled with using anywhere from 20-100 MB in one day. It all depends upon how congested your tower is. A better option if you want AT&T is to use their own GoPhone service at $25 for 250 talk minutes, unlimited texts then add the 1GB of data for another $25, total $50 a month. Or the $65 unlimited talk and text and 1 GB of data plan. These are the cheapest AT&T itself offers. Any of the MVNO's (ST, Net10, etc) your going to be capped to 1.5 GB (or less) anyways and their customer service is crap. Wait on hold for over an hour a few times to speak to one and you eventually get tired of it.
A few points
Straight Talk no longer sells AT&T-compatible SIM cards through their website. People on eBay are selling them for around $50.
Straight Talk has never made any statement about throttling people at 1.5 GB. Net10, which is owned by the same company as Straight Talk, established a 1.5 GB limit (see https://net10data.com/), but Straight Talk has not.
Different people have widely different experiences of being throttled on Straight Talk, and it seems to be highly unpredictable. I was throttled for the first time ever this month after using about .95 GB, though to be fair I used that data in less than a week, and I was tethering a lot. The weird thing is that I was throttled a few days after I was using large amounts of data.
Because of this uncertainty, I wouldn't recommend starting Straight Talk AT&T service now, especially with the high price of SIMs. You might consider Net10, which has SIMs widely available on eBay for $1. It's $50 per month, and supposedly you'll get 1.5 GB before being throttled or cut off. Other AT&T MVNOs cost $55 or $60 per month, or you can do GoPhone for $50.
If T-Mobile has good service where you live, you can get better deals on their network. I think there's a good chance they'll let prepaid/MVNO customers have access to their LTE network, something AT&T has not done yet.