Hi everyone,
Is Google Nexus 4 finally a fully LTE capable phone or not? and is there any official news from Google that they might patch it to not work with LTE anymore?
Thanks
It technically works on one (I think) band that LTE uses, in Canada, but I think that's it. As far as I know it would need some more hardware to be fully supported on all LTE bands.
TLDR; for realistic purposes, no
ragnarok12 said:
It technically works on one (I think) band that LTE uses, in Canada, but I think that's it. As far as I know it would need some more hardware to be fully supported on all LTE bands.
TLDR; for realistic purposes, no
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Which band is that? 2100Mhz? and if so then it's fully supported in Canada?! ??? Of course all LTE bands are not supported by any phones out there because of differences in USA, Canada, Japan, and Europe...
It's confusing because some news say that LTE antenna is needed and more hardware components so I don't understand why one of the bands work when hardware components are missing. Of course, it is not LTE when only the name LTE shows beside the signal and speed is not great.
I think it would be best if someone can post their speeds on Rogers, Bell, Fido, and Telus and let us know if LTE really works.
Well that thread already exists:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2007943
It only works on LTE band 4 and Google has already said they cannot update the phone to work on the rest of the LTE bands as the hardware is not in the phone. Band 4 is there by default in the LTE chip.
What is LTE Band 4? Can you please explain a bit.
Thanks
torontobc said:
What is LTE Band 4? Can you please explain a bit.
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Yes it works on Rogers LTE in Canada..
Google better not try to "disable", but glad someone brought that to my attention as I will be checking before i update anything
torontobc said:
What is LTE Band 4? Can you please explain a bit.
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http://www.anandtech.com/show/6474/nexus-4-includes-support-for-lte-on-band-4-aws
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Hey guys. Have a chance to take GS4 but is there any info how to unlock it to use on TMobile?
DOes it have AWS bands for supporting TMobile HSPA?
escknx said:
Hey guys. Have a chance to take GS4 but is there any info how to unlock it to use on TMobile?
DOes it have AWS bands for supporting TMobile HSPA?
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Why just not get T-Mobile's version?
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Why just not get T-Mobile's version?
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Great idea but there are no TMo offers yet. They plan to put it in their stores around 8-15 May. So if there is no chance to unlock ATT one I'll wait for TMo.
I'd wait. With the AT&T version you'll only get 850mhz/1900mhz HSPA, whereas the LTE would work fine. You'd definitely want AWS HSPA+ if your on T-Mobile. Their 1900mhz refarming is very spotty and not matured.
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I'd wait. With the AT&T version you'll only get 850mhz/1900mhz HSPA, whereas the LTE would work fine. You'd definitely want AWS HSPA+ if your on T-Mobile. Their 1900mhz refarming is very spotty and not matured.
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Yes anyway I need HSPA+. I use ATT Note2 that supports it. But it is unknows if ATT GS4 supports it as well.
You should definitely wait. Or if you're buying outright full price, just get the international I9505.
Well thanks i9505 is too expensive
1-2 more weeks not a big deal then
If you live in Queens there are some T-Mobile stores launching the fone on the 1st... Actually only 3 stores in Queens launching on the 1st.
It does not support the AWS 1700 band, so wait for the TMobile version. The hardware is not there.
The ATT S3 and Note 2 did not support AWS HSPA out of the box, but a quick tweak using the Qualcomm software fixed this.
Perhaps the same fix applies to the new chipset in the S4?
WorldIRC said:
The ATT S3 and Note 2 did not support AWS HSPA out of the box, but a quick tweak using the Qualcomm software fixed this.
Perhaps the same fix applies to the new chipset in the S4?
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On Note 2 AWS HSPA can be enabled through service menu so I've made. Do not know about GS3..
Tmobile or ATT version S4
Will T-mobile S4, which I am sure will come as locked, work on ATT network (3G/4G/LTE) once unlocked? It appears that ATT version lacks Tmobile's 1700 band for 3G/4G. But does Tmobile version S4 comes with 1700/1900/2100 plus LTE band that works at both carriers provided that it is unlocked? If not is there an S4 unlocked version that can be purchased so that it works at both carrier's 3G/4G/LTE?
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Will T-mobile S4, which I am sure will come as locked, work on ATT network (3G/4G/LTE) once unlocked? It appears that ATT version lacks Tmobile's 1700 band for 3G/4G. But does Tmobile version S4 comes with 1700/1900/2100 plus LTE band that works at both carriers provided that it is unlocked? If not is there an S4 unlocked version that can be purchased so that it works at both carrier's 3G/4G/LTE?
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4g lte shoukd work straight out of the box since tmobile uses the same lte band as at&t. and im pretty positive hspa should work too cause you dont need 3 bands all time. I have tmobile note 2 on att and i have all 2g hspa and lte.
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It does not support the AWS 1700 band, so wait for the TMobile version. The hardware is not there.
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Could you please provide a source for this? I've been looking but can't find any confirmation. I was thinking both phones would have the same hardware (cheaper to manufacture) but the modem firmware would simply disable some bands on the AT&T model.
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It does not support the AWS 1700 band, so wait for the TMobile version. The hardware is not there.
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Turns out the hardware is identical on both the AT&T and the T-Mobile models. More info on this post. Cross-referencing posts to avoid duplicating info, and in case someone is interested.
what about unlocking the phone(t-mobile version)? anything available besides buying the code?
noob question
WorldIRC said:
The ATT S3 and Note 2 did not support AWS HSPA out of the box, but a quick tweak using the Qualcomm software fixed this.
Perhaps the same fix applies to the new chipset in the S4?
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hi there, what QUALCOMM software would this be? sorry for the noob question
I am really interested in the Korean version of this phone (with the removable battery and sd card slot), but there seems to be confusion over which models support which frequency bands... so my question is..
Do any of them support 3G on the 850/1900 band???
Thanks
Yes I will also like to know as well. Because I would to get this vein so I don't have to stock with a contact.
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Warrimonk said:
Do any of them support 3G on the 850/1900 band???
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Look what F240S can has in attachment. So I think it supports 1900 band. As well as F240K. And F320S/F320K will work with 1900 to
Best way for your is to ask people which have korean G Pro at hand to make you screenshots of their bands by menu 5457#*240#
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Look what F240S can has in attachment. So I think it supports 1900 band. As well as F240K. And F320S/F320K will work with 1900 to
Best way for your is to ask people which have korean G Pro at hand to make you screenshots of their bands by menu 5457#*240#
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Thanks, this is helpful.
However I am torn between which band would be more useful to me, 850 or 1900 (I live in a rural area). I can live with 3G but not 2G,
UPDATE: A G2 with model number F320S was listed on eBay saying it supports HSDPA 850/900/1900/2100 in the description. I messaged the seller to make sure it was not a mistake, and he assured me that the device does support these 3G frequencies and that it would get 3G signal on carriers Canada.
Just got this phone. I am in US and need to know where you went to get those setting. Currently only getting 3G
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tpcastelli said:
Just got this phone. I am in US and need to know where you went to get those setting. Currently only getting 3G
Thanks
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What carrier are you with? You should only get 3G, since none of the LTE variants that work in the US are released yet.
Yes thank you, I am getting 3G on AT&T. Battery is very cooperative on 3G. Every time I dial a voice call the phone thinks I am in Korea ...can not find any setting in phone for region, any chance you might know how to change regions? The phone is very ergonomic, probably the moist ergonomic I have used.
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Yes thank you, I am getting 3G on AT&T. Battery is very cooperative on 3G. Every time I dial a voice call the phone thinks I am in Korea ...can not find any setting in phone for region, any chance you might know how to change regions? The phone is very ergonomic, probably the moist ergonomic I have used.
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MoreLocale 2 in the app store seems to do the trick but I don't have an lg g2 to test it. I guess you need to root it first and grant superuser permissions because of the way jellybean handles it.I came up with this thru a couple Google searches so its untested.
I'm tempted. I'm on straight talk in the USA. If it worked, tell me as a thanks cause I kinda want to get it. I wonder if it supports tmobiles hspa+42 network. I use a T-Mobile straight talk sim card...., it runs off of T-Mobile's network but I pay straight talk but no LTE.
I will give it a try. First I need root, do you know where I can get root for the LG G2?
Warrimonk said:
I am really interested in the Korean version of this phone (with the removable battery and sd card slot), but there seems to be confusion over which models support which frequency bands... so my question is..
Do any of them support 3G on the 850/1900 band???
Thanks
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Dono if you still need it. But here it is:
320S:
GSM 850/900/1800/1900
UMTS B1B2B5 850/1900/2100
LTE B1B3B5B7 850/1800/2100/2600
320K:
GSM 850/900/1800/1900
UMTS B1B2B5 850/1900/2100
LTE B1B3B7B8 900/1800/2100/2600
No info on the 320L
Thanks. That clears a lot up. It is good to see 2 models with a large range of bands.
It really is amazing how many websites had bad info.
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Along the same lines, does anyone know what the model number is of the G2 that works on Verizon bands?
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Dono if you still need it. But here it is:
320S:
GSM 850/900/1800/1900
UMTS B1B2B5 850/1900/2100
LTE B1B3B5B7 850/1800/2100/2600
320K:
GSM 850/900/1800/1900
UMTS B1B2B5 850/1900/2100
LTE B1B3B7B8 900/1800/2100/2600
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I doubt it, where do you get this bands? native Korean models never had LTE 2600 supported, so that must be fakes
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I doubt it, where do you get this bands? native Korean models never had LTE 2600 supported, so that must be fakes
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I can confirm the LTE 2600 supported. I'm using the SK version in Hong Kong and can use both LTE 1800 and LTE 2600 with this phone.
krmdb said:
I can confirm the LTE 2600 supported. I'm using the SK version in Hong Kong and can use both LTE 1800 and LTE 2600 with this phone.
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I bought the 320L, how I can check what band it support ?
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I bought the 320L, how I can check what band it support ?
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Dial 5457#*320# and look for Band selection menu. Don't tinker with it, just make please screenshots 4 us pressing and holding "power+vol.down"
Then LTE channels screenshots will be appreciated too. The more the better
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Dial 5457#*320# and look for Band selection menu. Don't tinker with it, just make please screenshots 4 us pressing and holding "power+vol.down"
Then LTE channels screenshots will be appreciated too. The more the better
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Attached is the screenshots, see if these are the one you looking for.
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Attached is the screenshots, see if these are the one you looking for.
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Attached is another screen of the GSM/WDCDMA ?
These are the 2G / 3G Band ?
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Attached is another screen of the GSM/WDCDMA ?
These are the 2G / 3G Band ?
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Yes
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I doubt it, where do you get this bands? native Korean models never had LTE 2600 supported, so that must be fakes
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I'm using the F320K and here is the bands i have.
I've been struggling with this issue, and google has brought me here..
I purchased a factory i9505 off ebay, doing my research regarding Canadian LTE compatibility, etc. However I did not delve deep enough in the small print. After not being able to connect onto my Bell LTE, but everything else seemingly working fine, I did some deeper digging, and found that there are specific bands on LTE that are supported/unsupported!!
Apparently the Bell runs their LTE on bands 4 and 17, while the i9505 only talks on bands 1, 5, 3, 7, 8 and 20.... who knew! lol
But now I come here, and I saw this post:
dj_aj said:
...The GT-i9505 is the international S4 that uses the qualcomm quadcore cpu which is marketed in the USA as i377 (at&t) and i377m (bell/rogers/telus) in Canada. These 2 variants don't support AWS bands out of the box, but users have shown a way to enable that on these phones.
There is also another variant of the i9505 marketed as SGH-M919 for T-Mobile in USA and SGH-M919V for Wind/Videotron in Canada. These support AWS bands out of the box and work perfectly well on all North American providers such as At&t, Rogers, Bell, Virgin Mobile, T-Mobile, etc.
Hope this helps your dilemma!
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So my question is... is there some anyone on this board who might be able to show me how I could somehow make my i9505 work with Bell LTE?
I am moderately tech saavy, and would be alright with rooting the phone with some help.
Or maybe this isn't possible?!?!
Thanks again
Have you tried this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=41738642
jd1639 said:
Have you tried this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=41738642
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Actually upon reading more carefully, I really don't think it's an AWS problem, it's a Band 4 problem.... I don't think that's the same issue, but please correct me if I'm wrong!!
Thanks, though! :good:
rich55 said:
Actually upon reading more carefully, I really don't think it's an AWS problem, it's a Band 4 and 17 problem.... I don't think that's the same issue, but please correct me if I'm wrong!!
Thanks, though! :good:
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I think you're right. The little bit of research I've done it sounds like the i9505 doesn't support lte in north America. I think your stuck with with 3g. Or you could see if you could trade it for a G version
jd1639 said:
I think you're right. The little bit of research I've done it sounds like the i9505 doesn't support lte in north America. I think your stuck with with 3g. Or you could see if you could trade it for a G version
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uhhhh, I wouldn't say that... I do believe that the i9505 will talk LTE with Rogers/Fido... just not Bell.
This is why I'm asking if I could somehow 'hack' my i9505 to talk LTE Band 4 which will get me on Bell's LTE network.
Anyone?
Due to the TMO variant being possibly bootloader locked i wanted to know if Anyone know if the International version of the Samsung Galaxy S5 is FULLY compatible with TMOBILE? in other words does it have all the frequencies/bands needed to work on TMobile USA??
I came here to ask the same thing. Tmo uses 1900mhz for 3g and it supports that. I don't think it supports tmo's LTE bands though.
With the s4s there were a lot of shenanigans you could do to get the modem on other bands, since the hardware supported more. Maybe we can do that here.
edit: Looks like tmo lte might be 1900 and the SM-G900F is 1900.
edit 2: I think, ha, that 1700 is lte and 1900 is 3g.
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I came here to ask the same thing. Tmo uses 1900mhz for 3g and it supports that. I don't think it supports tmo's LTE bands though.
With the s4s there were a lot of shenanigans you could do to get the modem on other bands, since the hardware supported more. Maybe we can do that here.
edit: Looks like tmo lte might be 1900 and the SM-G900F is 1900.
edit 2: I think, ha, that 1700 is lte and 1900 is 3g.
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ha left me a little confused, illl probably just wait till the actual specs are confirmed on most of the S5 variants...including whats bootloader locked and whats not.
I never heard of ANY international phones being LTE compatible with the Big 4 (Verizon, ATT, Sprint, Tmobile).
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Due to the TMO variant being possibly bootloader locked i wanted to know if Anyone know if the International version of the Samsung Galaxy S5 is FULLY compatible with TMOBILE? in other words does it have all the frequencies/bands needed to work on TMobile USA??
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Try this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks
and this: http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=5837&c=samsung_sm-g900f_galaxy_s5_lte-a_16gb
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Try this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks
and this: http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=5837&c=samsung_sm-g900f_galaxy_s5_lte-a_16gb
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I am still a little confused by this - so your help is appreciated - Bottom line, is there an international version that will work with ATT LTE? From what I have been able to see none of the S5s or any phone for that matter (at least that I can see) works with ATT LTE - at least not until YOu can get 3g and 4g I think (HSPDA+
Am I wrong about this or is there an S5 varient that uses any of the LTE Bands supported by ATT:
which are: AT&T B17 = 700MHz b; B4 = AWS 1700MHz-2100MHz
Suggestions? are there any options?
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I am still a little confused by this - so your help is appreciated - Bottom line, is there an international version that will work with ATT LTE? From what I have been able to see none of the S5s or any phone for that matter (at least that I can see) works with ATT LTE - at least not until YOu can get 3g and 4g I think (HSPDA+
Am I wrong about this or is there an S5 varient that uses any of the LTE Bands supported by ATT:
which are: AT&T B17 = 700MHz b; B4 = AWS 1700MHz-2100MHz
Suggestions? are there any options?
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Here's a comparison of all models: http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=pdacom...=5448&id12=5876&id13=5929&id14=5865&id15=6040
The international unlocked G900F doesn't support B4 and B17.
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Due to the TMO variant being possibly bootloader locked i wanted to know if Anyone know if the International version of the Samsung Galaxy S5 is FULLY compatible with TMOBILE? in other words does it have all the frequencies/bands needed to work on TMobile USA??
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Wait til S5 Google Play edition will be released. I bet, it will work the same as S4 Google edition which is very much compatible with T-Mob and and around the world.
so will the SM-G900 be able to get LTE? friend of mine has it and at the moment he is not able to pick up LTE only 2g if we change the baseband will that make any difference?
thanks for any help
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The international unlocked G900F doesn't support B4 and B17.
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Is it possible to enable these bands? similar to what is done for S4 i337or i337M
Hope somebody might be working on it
I have G900H but does not have 1700 MHz hence cannot be used with Wind or Mobilicity.
FULLY compatible? No.
OTOH, the TMobile bootloader is not locked.
Bypass the band restrictions? e.g. as was done to enable AWS on the S3.. possibly, but that would be considerable work. And more to the point, I haven't noticed anyone pursuing that.
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fffft said:
FULLY compatible? No.
OTOH, the TMobile bootloader is not locked.
Bypass the band restrictions? e.g. as was done to enable AWS on the S3.. possibly, but that would be considerable work. And more to the point, I haven't noticed anyone pursuing that.
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Can the qcn file for s3 or s4 be used on s5 to enable AWS band?
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Can the qcn file for s3 or s4 be used on s5 to enable AWS band?
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No, they are different models and there is no way that they will have the same memory addresses.
FWIW, the TMobile version has AWS enabled, so a comparison between the 900T and say 900W8 NV would probably give you a really good idea of would need to be changed on other variants with respect to AWS.
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So i am considering buying this phone, but I have only 1 concern about lte on this website: http://www.gearbest.com/cell-phones/pp_230088.html it says that 4f bands are only:FDD-LTE 1800/2100/2600MHz, so will it work in Canada?? I checked http://maps.mobileworldlive.com/ and It only compatable with 2100, no 1700 is it fine if I only have 1?
Help please!!!
Bump!!
Bump!
Bump!
Any canadians??
I have ordered the international version and I did some research and basically the bands are dependant on what your network is broadcasting on. If you google what frequency/band your provider is broadcasting on then cross-reference it to the ones supported then you'll know if it works.
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Carriers use more than 1 band cause the don't have full coverage with only 1 so sometimes you should have LTE coverage and sometimes don't , I'm in the same dilemma the phone is really good but not having the LTE bands used in US is a deal breaker, I'm waiting to October cause its supposed to be officially released to the US and maybe they'll release a revised version with the LTE bands used here.
Breadcrust said:
I have ordered the international version and I did some research and basically the bands are dependant on what your network is broadcasting on. If you google what frequency/band your provider is broadcasting on then cross-reference it to the ones supported then you'll know if it works.
- Peace BreadC
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Hey buddy, does the phone work with 3 and EE's 4G? I dont think that this phone has band 20 support.
Kamran9558 said:
Hey buddy, does the phone work with 3 and EE's 4G? I dont think that this phone has band 20 support.
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I bloody well hope so! I changed from o2 to Three thinking it had support. I think it supports their bands.
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I bloody well hope so! I changed from o2 to Three thinking it had support. I think it supports their bands.
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Can you check it? Three use 1800 band and have launched their 800 band recently(not wide spread at the moment) which would improve their indoor 4G coverage, EE already use 800/1800 bands,
I think you can probably check in the service menu.
Mine hasn't come yet, I got scammed on zukphone.cc by a PayPal account called [email protected]. PayPal are investigating but my Dad has a OnePlus One and he has 4G on Three so I can only assume it will work.
Any Canadians bought it???
FWIW, I just checked bands/frequencies and as far as I understood even the international version of the ZUK Z1 (weird that their english web-site is at zuk.hk and the chinese web-site is at zuk.com) won't work on Telus/Koodo.
stangri said:
FWIW, I just checked bands/frequencies and as far as I understood even the international version of the ZUK Z1 (weird that their english web-site is at zuk.hk and the chinese web-site is at zuk.com) won't work on Telus/Koodo.
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Afaik, the "international" version of the phone is identical to "chinese" version. Only difference is OS preinstalled (Cyanogen OS for international). So basically, it should work in EU, Asia, Australia etc, but not in the US or Canada (of course depending what bands you need).
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I bloody well hope so! I changed from o2 to Three thinking it had support. I think it supports their bands.
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It does.
Check on willmyphonework.net
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Afaik, the "international" version of the phone is identical to "chinese" version. Only difference is OS preinstalled (Cyanogen OS for international). So basically, it should work in EU, Asia, Australia etc, but not in the US or Canada (of course depending what bands you need).
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Oh, I thought I've read somewhere that the International version will sacrifice some of the TDD-LTE bands for more of the FDD-LTE bands, so besides the OS difference I also expected different bands support.
Anyways, the specific band for the network I'm using doesn't seem to be supported. And it's one of the top 3 providers in Canada.
Bump to see if anyone has got it working in canada and with which company.
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Oh, I thought I've read somewhere that the International version will sacrifice some of the TDD-LTE bands for more of the FDD-LTE bands, so besides the OS difference I also expected different bands support.
Anyways, the specific band for the network I'm using doesn't seem to be supported. And it's one of the top 3 providers in Canada.
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Are you with Telus/Koodo? It seems like it will work with Bell/Virgin and Rogers/Fido.
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Are you with Telus/Koodo? It seems like it will work with Bell/Virgin and Rogers/Fido.
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FWIW, I just checked bands/frequencies and as far as I understood even the international version of the ZUK Z1 (...) won't work on Telus/Koodo.
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Seriously dude, it's on the same page even.
stangri said:
FWIW, I just checked bands/frequencies and as far as I understood even the international version of the ZUK Z1 (weird that their english web-site is at zuk.hk and the chinese web-site is at zuk.com) won't work on Telus/Koodo.
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Why won't it work on Telus/Koodo? I checked the bands and it has the 3g bands that work on Telus/Koodo.