new AT&T sim card blocking google wallet! - Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I was at the AT&T store to pick up a new micro simcard for my new N4. The rep was about to give me the simcard when he suddenly asked if I had NFC. I said yes and he went and got a different card muttering something about extra security for Isis.
Later, I tried to set up Wallet but it just hung during initialization. When I took the simcard out, Wallet initialized fine. Put it back in, kaput.
Is AT&T actively disabling Wallet since they are promoting Isis or is it an inadvertant incompatibility. I plan to go back and demand a non-Isis card.

flintdragon said:
I was at the AT&T store to pick up a new micro simcard for my new N4. The rep was about to give me the simcard when he suddenly asked if I had NFC. I said yes and he went and got a different card muttering something about extra security for Isis.
Later, I tried to set up Wallet but it just hung during initialization. When I took the simcard out, Wallet initialized fine. Put it back in, kaput.
Is AT&T actively disabling Wallet since they are promoting Isis or is it an inadvertant incompatibility. I plan to go back and demand a non-Isis card.
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Whoa, that would be completely ridiculous. I took the micro SIM from my HTC One X, put it in my Nexus 4 and Wallet authorized fine (haven't used it yet). All it says is that I'm using an unsupported device because of root, but that doesn't change the functionality.

I had to go to at&t for a sim card as well however wallet works great for me. I use it every time I go grocery shopping.
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ErikWithNoC said:
Whoa, that would be completely ridiculous. I took the micro SIM from my HTC One X, put it in my Nexus 4 and Wallet authorized fine (haven't used it yet). All it says is that I'm using an unsupported device because of root, but that doesn't change the functionality.
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I did same here and also could use wallet
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I was really surprised that there really are two different sims now. I forgot to mention that I'm in Austin, one of two cities testing out Isis and there is a major push in the AT&T store for it.
I'll report back when I get my hands on the regular sim.

Before I start my rant, why don't you just cut the old one to size?
Funny how AT&T is shooting itself in the foot, again and again.
For dumbphones:
The dumbphone crowd have little loyalty towards att (mostly CDMA or MVNO). other than that, they usually have cheaper plans.
For iphones (neither smart nor dumb) :
The iphone crowd are leaving left and right (mostly to MVNOs), and now with the unlocking, and the new compatible towers, people are heading to T-Mobile.
For android phones:
Their slow updates and bloatware, causes people to dislike buying from them. The fact that they just quit updating, causes people to leave completely.
Now they are messing with the nexus? A phone that just needs service, not support, from them?
Good thing I threw my number at Google. I change providers any time I feel like it. Right now I'm thinking about trying net 10 <att>
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I was in the area and thought I might as well get a new one. It's free and only took a few minutes. In hindsight, I should have just cut it and have a working Wallet.

what is the word on this? it is hard to find information. wallet was working fine on my gnex. i cut down the sim and slapped it in my nexus 4 and wallet doesn't work now. if at&t is disabling software on my phone that isn't harming them in any way, we should be writing letters to attorney generals and calling for arbitration.

After many months of no Wallet access, I decided to fire up the app again and this time everything is working well! I don't know when but Google must have either found a way around the ISIS sim card or fixed a bug. Hard to say at this point if AT&T was actively breaking the N4 NFC. Whatever it was, it's now working beautifully!

flintdragon said:
After many months of no Wallet access, I decided to fire up the app again and this time everything is working well! I don't know when but Google must have either found a way around the ISIS sim card or fixed a bug. Hard to say at this point if AT&T was actively breaking the N4 NFC. Whatever it was, it's now working beautifully!
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I've never had a problem with Google wallet on AT&T. But I do believe when the phone first came out an update to the app was needed to get it to work on any network. The update came out around the time of your first post. Here is an interesting article on Google Wallet and Verizon as Verizon does actively block it on their network.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/0...why-the-carrier-is-still-allowed-to-block-it/

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Verizon BS - Typical

So I had my Nexus 6 delivered today, the open version ordered from Google. Went in to Verizon to have them switch over my sim (I had a larger sim with my LG G3, so had to get a smaller sim), and after 45 minutes of back and forth, they refused to put the device on their network because as they say "We have a Nexus 6 device already on our network, so you can purchase it from us". That was my official answer given to me from them. We tried two different technicians, managers, etc, and they downright refused.
I'm over this crap with them, spent my entire lunch hour doing this, dealing with getting the device after it wasn't able to be delivered to my address, multiple trips to the local fedex office.. The second I can cancel my account with them, I'm out.
If you have Verizon and want to order one of these, you'll have to order their blue piece of crap (I wanted the white version) and the only phone on for any of the networks that wont work elsewhere.
Mario
desantim said:
So I had my Nexus 6 delivered today, the open version ordered from Google. Went in to Verizon to have them switch over my sim (I had a larger sim with my LG G3, so had to get a smaller sim), and after 45 minutes of back and forth, they refused to put the device on their network because as they say "We have a Nexus 6 device already on our network, so you can purchase it from us". That was my official answer given to me from them. We tried two different technicians, managers, etc, and they downright refused.
I'm over this crap with them, spent my entire lunch hour doing this, dealing with getting the device after it wasn't able to be delivered to my address, multiple trips to the local fedex office.. The second I can cancel my account with them, I'm out.
If you have Verizon and want to order one of these, you'll have to order their blue piece of crap (I wanted the white version) and the only phone on for any of the networks that wont work elsewhere.
Mario
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well, there are many many many people using a google play store version n6 on verizon, without issue. i suggest you talk to reps in a different store.
desantim said:
So I had my Nexus 6 delivered today, the open version ordered from Google. Went in to Verizon to have them switch over my sim (I had a larger sim with my LG G3, so had to get a smaller sim), and after 45 minutes of back and forth, they refused to put the device on their network because as they say "We have a Nexus 6 device already on our network, so you can purchase it from us". That was my official answer given to me from them. We tried two different technicians, managers, etc, and they downright refused.
I'm over this crap with them, spent my entire lunch hour doing this, dealing with getting the device after it wasn't able to be delivered to my address, multiple trips to the local fedex office.. The second I can cancel my account with them, I'm out.
If you have Verizon and want to order one of these, you'll have to order their blue piece of crap (I wanted the white version) and the only phone on for any of the networks that wont work elsewhere.
Mario
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You can get it working. Read this thread. http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/general/how-to-verizon-nano-sim-nexus-6-t2944308
My personal experience here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=57564205&postcount=99
I guess things are hit or miss at Verizon. When the store couldn't help me I had them call Technical Support, tech support assigned a nano sim from the store to a dummy IMEI number and activated it on my account. Took them 10 minutes to do what the store couldn't figure out in an hour. They have dummy IMEI's, just have to reach someone that knows what they are doing...
desantim said:
So I had my Nexus 6 delivered today, the open version ordered from Google. Went in to Verizon to have them switch over my sim (I had a larger sim with my LG G3, so had to get a smaller sim), and after 45 minutes of back and forth, they refused to put the device on their network because as they say "We have a Nexus 6 device already on our network, so you can purchase it from us". That was my official answer given to me from them. We tried two different technicians, managers, etc, and they downright refused.
I'm over this crap with them, spent my entire lunch hour doing this, dealing with getting the device after it wasn't able to be delivered to my address, multiple trips to the local fedex office.. The second I can cancel my account with them, I'm out.
If you have Verizon and want to order one of these, you'll have to order their blue piece of crap (I wanted the white version) and the only phone on for any of the networks that wont work elsewhere.
Mario
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there are a gazillion post on this topic. You can cut down your G3's SIM card and use it - SIM cutters are cheap on Amazon.
Or you can order a nano SIM card from Verizon - you can tell them you are buying a used S6 and they will mail you one. Then when it arrives, all you need is the IMEI of a Verizon Android device that takes a nano SIM card and you can have a chat rep activate the nano SIM they send you using that IMEI. You can usually find someone who posted a picture of a box with an IMEI on it - Moto X will work as will S6, M8, M9, but not iPhones, those are different nano SIMs.
Or if you know anyone on Verizon who has an Android that uses a nano SIM card, you can suspend their line w/o billing temporarily to free up their phone to use it to activate the nano SIM on your line. Then when you have done that, you pop the nano SIM in your N6 and then they can put their SIM card back in their device and unsuspend their line.
I always have two Verizon sim cards stored in case the next phone I get uses a different sim card size. They're easy to get by contacting a VZW rep or ordering one online from some seller for cheap. Activating them through chat is easy. You can also activate it yourself by switching your device through My Verizon, but since the Google Play version isn't a Verizon IMEI, that option won't work. I avoid having to go deal with VZW reps in person
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Just cut that sim - win!
JulesJam said:
there are a gazillion post on this topic. You can cut down your G3's SIM card and use it - SIM cutters are cheap on Amazon.
Or you can order a nano SIM card from Verizon - you can tell them you are buying a used S6 and they will mail you one. Then when it arrives, all you need is the IMEI of a Verizon Android device that takes a nano SIM card and you can have a chat rep activate the nano SIM they send you using that IMEI. You can usually find someone who posted a picture of a box with an IMEI on it - Moto X will work as will S6, M8, M9, but not iPhones, those are different nano SIMs.
Or if you know anyone on Verizon who has an Android that uses a nano SIM card, you can suspend their line w/o billing temporarily to free up their phone to use it to activate the nano SIM on your line. Then when you have done that, you pop the nano SIM in your N6 and then they can put their SIM card back in their device and unsuspend their line.
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I'd have to second this. I had a 2014 Moto X and just swapped the SIM with no issues. However, I think they easiest thing for you to do would be to order a cheap SIM cutter. Amazon.com - Aerb SIM Cutter
You could have saved yourself time and frustration by simply reading one of the dozens of threads that already explain this very issue. Nice to have another Verizon thread though /s
akellar said:
You could have saved yourself time and frustration by simply reading one of the dozens of threads that already explain this very issue. Nice to have another Verizon thread though /s
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Equally as helpful your response I presume, original as it may be But I appreciate your input all the same being that it's a public forum and all.
Yes you can cut the micro sim to nano sim as many people here said, but if i was you i cut verizon first for that kind of service. dont' know about other carriers, but with ATT the last few months i can just drop in their store and changed sim 3 times (2 for me and one for my brother) as i changed phone from iphone to inew v8 to oneplus and last week to nexus. Never has a problem and no charge. In and out in about 15 min for them to activate the imei in their system with new sim
I have sprint. I went into a sprint store with a n6 I ordered from Motorola directly. They got a nano Sim, activated my device and didn't even charge me a penny. I had Verizon but canceled both lines I had with them because of customer service. I broke contracts on both lines.
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Equally as helpful your response I presume, original as it may be But I appreciate your input all the same being that it's a public forum and all.
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I am not helping out the snarky other member who annoyed you, but you DID break rule #1 of XDA (and no, it's not "don't talk about xda" lol)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/announcement.php?a=81
1. Search before posting.
Use one of our search functions before posting or creating a new thread. Whether you have a question or just something new to share, it's very likely that someone has already asked that question or shared that news.
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The easiest thing to do when a Sim card is too big is.....? That's right, cut it. I did that with many phones. Had the note 4 and wanted to switch to a white 64gb nexus 6 from the play store and just popped in the Sim from my Note 4 and it worked without having to do anything. Yes on the my Verizon mobile app it says "non Verizon device" and that alters my life in exactly zero ways.
desantim said:
So I had my Nexus 6 delivered today, the open version ordered from Google. Went in to Verizon to have them switch over my sim (I had a larger sim with my LG G3, so had to get a smaller sim), and after 45 minutes of back and forth, they refused to put the device on their network because as they say "We have a Nexus 6 device already on our network, so you can purchase it from us". That was my official answer given to me from them. We tried two different technicians, managers, etc, and they downright refused.
I'm over this crap with them, spent my entire lunch hour doing this, dealing with getting the device after it wasn't able to be delivered to my address, multiple trips to the local fedex office.. The second I can cancel my account with them, I'm out.
If you have Verizon and want to order one of these, you'll have to order their blue piece of crap (I wanted the white version) and the only phone on for any of the networks that wont work elsewhere.
Mario
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Going in to a store to have them change out your sim card is a waste of time. Even if you happen to have a sane service provider who won't give you a hard time. Why? Because it is a waste of time. If you don't have a drywall knife (some call them "box cutters" or "utility knives"), go to home depot and buy one, then trim the plastic off from around the contact pad until it fits the phone. (note: take off multiple THIN slices so you don't stress the chip).
Nickchapstick said:
The easiest thing to do when a Sim card is too big is.....? That's right, cut it. I did that with many phones. Had the note 4 and wanted to switch to a white 64gb nexus 6 from the play store and just popped in the Sim from my Note 4 and it worked without having to do anything. Yes on the my Verizon mobile app it says "non Verizon device" and that alters my life in exactly zero ways.
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This. And an everyday, household scissors works just fine.
It's all just an illusion

Will Verizon try to interfere with Moto Pure?

Not seeing Verizon being amicable with this device the more I think about it and would not be surprised to see Verizon not part of the network. They are big, arrogant and like all the bloat to help drive data mining and other service revenue the bloat gives them. The precedent this sets if were successful is not in Verizon's best interests of bloat bait. Sure, you would think Verizon is still raking in the monthly service fees, but they love their bloat.
The Droid Maxx 2 (aka Moto X Play) has added to my perhaps overly cynical view of the situation.
Verizon isn't selling this phone, so they can't interfere with it. Motorola is selling it directly, and as far as I know it's already a fact that it will work with Verizon. If it's like the Nexus 6 at launch though, it will work fine by swapping SIMs, but it may not work immediately to activate new service on.
Received mine yesterday. Active SIM recognized VZW, but wouldn't activate. Tier 2 tech support had to manually enter, maybe take 8 hrs, so they say... :/
former_tarheel said:
Received mine yesterday. Active SIM recognized VZW, but wouldn't activate. Tier 2 tech support had to manually enter, maybe take 8 hrs, so they say... :/
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That's interesting.. was it nano sum active or you cut down , and which phone it came from ?
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patt2k said:
That's interesting.. was it nano sum active or you cut down , and which phone it came from ?
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Original uncut nanoSIM from a Moto Nexus 6 (AMZN/VZW), which I didn't keep - horrible experience all-around.
While the Moto XP so far gives me some reminder, I like the Moto suite a lot. Have had some limited heat from
charging the battery, but that has always happened to me first time around. It goes away after a cycle or two
of discharge/charge. VZW is still clueless re: BYOD IMHO, and I think I knew more than the in-store rep w/ 11 yrs exp.
former_tarheel said:
Original uncut nanoSIM from a Moto Nexus 6 (AMZN/VZW), which I didn't keep - horrible experience all-around.
While the Moto XP so far gives me some reminder, I like the Moto suite a lot. Have had some limited heat from
charging the battery, but that has always happened to me first time around. It goes away after a cycle or two
of discharge/charge. VZW is still clueless re: BYOD IMHO, and I think I knew more than the in-store rep w/ 11 yrs exp.
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I think it might take a whole for vzw to have all imei numbers. Hopefully mine will be shipped tomorrow, I bought nano sim card cutter.
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geoff5093 said:
Verizon isn't selling this phone, so they can't interfere with it. Motorola is selling it directly, and as far as I know it's already a fact that it will work with Verizon. If it's like the Nexus 6 at launch though, it will work fine by swapping SIMs, but it may not work immediately to activate new service on.
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They might not be able to interfere (as much) but they certainly don't seem any more prepared for BYOD, IMHO. They didn't appear willing earlier today, but I held their feet to the fire,
esp. since I'm off contract in two months, which I reminded them of - as well as the fact that this device works with any major US carrier.
Saw an unboxing and the guy had no issues at all with VZW and then there's this to add credibility...
http://www.droid-life.com/2015/09/09/verizon-will-allow-you-to-activate-the-moto-x-pure-edition/
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Got mine this morning. Took it to Verizon (don't have a nano sim). The rep couldn't register the IMEI in the Verizon db, but he activated a nano sim with another device, and after putting it in mine I was good to go.
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Got mine this morning. Took it to Verizon (don't have a nano sim). The rep couldn't register the IMEI in the Verizon db, but he activated a nano sim with another device, and after putting it in mine I was good to go.
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Did he activate using your old device imei number or he simply used any imei number so that system registers it ?
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I was able to use my Straight Talk Verizon sim with my Moto X. When I talked with ST support they claimed it wouldn't work. I wasn't able to register the Moto X on the website with my IMEI it was forcing me to GSM activation. I activated the sim using another phone's serial, popped the sim in my Moto X, it got stuck on the activating wireless screen, but when I rebooted it connected to Verizon LTE and voice.
I popped my SIM in from my droid Maxx. Initially it worked, but then didn't. Then went to a corporate store that swore there was nothing they can do. Will next try an authorized retailer. GRRRRRR!
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This all sounds like its going to be a pain in the butt to get activated on VZW. I have a N6 that i was planning to sell and if i just swap the sim dont think ill be able to sell it. VZW is always a pain in the butt with this stuff, i only wish there service wasnt better then most by me
I went to Verizon and they tried activating but no luck. Came home and cut my micro sim from my HTC One M7 and popped it in. Working just fine now.
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They WILL need to activate the sim using a diff phone's imei. Just tell the rep that's what needs to be done, if he doesn't attempt it himself. So far no issues.
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After the corporate store debacle I went to an authorized seller store. They were much nicer. He suggested we take the SIM out of my Maxx, put it back in the pure and then turn the pure back on. Voila, so far it has worked. This morning when I put the SIM in I didn't power down and then turn the phone back on fwiw.
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benjamminh said:
I popped my SIM in from my droid Maxx. Initially it worked, but then didn't. Then went to a corporate store that swore there was nothing they can do. Will next try an authorized retailer. GRRRRRR!
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Someone in moto forums said to activate a nano sim without IMEI number he did it with rep on the phone.
Did you try that?

What to expect on Verizon?

I've never had an unlocked phone before. I currently have an M8 (nano SIM) active on Verizon. I've read reports from people and their N6 experience. Some say it was simply a matter of moving the sim into the new phone. Others say they went through hell to get it to work. Does Verizon need to get involved? Is it really a case by case basis? Did people who had trouble do something wrong? Any insight appreciated.
I don't think we'll know until someone tries. As you had said, Verizon wouldn't issue SIMs or activate the N6 for the longest time. They have a terrible track record of allowing devices they don't sell on to their network. I'm on Verizon, and will probably go to Fi when it arrives. Cheaper that way anyhow.
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I've never had an unlocked phone before. I currently have an M8 (nano SIM) active on Verizon. I've read reports from people and their N6 experience. Some say it was simply a matter of moving the sim into the new phone. Others say they went through hell to get it to work. Does Verizon need to get involved? Is it really a case by case basis? Did people who had trouble do something wrong? Any insight appreciated.
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I am in the same situation as you, never having had an unlocked phone and on Verizon. Have a Note 4 now and hope I can just walk in and get a SIM from them without problems, don't want to be put in the position of cutting down a micro-sim to a nano-sim size. Seen Youtube vids and yes it looks easy, but if someone can mess it up it is me. Hope they don't give us a hard time.
there was a small period of time where the XPE was having activation issues for new SIMs but existing SIMs worked fine. i anticipate this will remain the same. existing SIMs will work fine.
i do remember some issues with either the '13 X or some other models that were unable to do simultaneous voice/data but was eventually resolved.
I bought a nexus 6 on day 1. I was coming from a note 3 with a micro sim .I did not deal with Verizon at all. I cut my sim to make it a nano. Threw it in my Nexus 6 and the rest is history. Been using it ever since and when i get my 6p im just gonna transfer that sim into the 6p
I've cut down a sim card before. I had the HTC Rezound and when I ordered the Galaxy S4 I didn't want to go through the hassle of getting a Micro Sim from the store. The Rezound had a full size sim. There are sim templates online. Download and print one out. Cut the template EXACTLY and place on your Sim card. Trace in Pencil and then get a quality pair of scissors. Easy as that. They also make Sim card cutters online you can buy really cheap.
you do not even need a template...a good pair of durasheer type scissors and just trim all the plastic around the gold contacts off and you are good to go.
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I've never had an unlocked phone before. I currently have an M8 (nano SIM) active on Verizon. I've read reports from people and their N6 experience. Some say it was simply a matter of moving the sim into the new phone. Others say they went through hell to get it to work. Does Verizon need to get involved? Is it really a case by case basis? Did people who had trouble do something wrong? Any insight appreciated.
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I called up and told them that a friend was giving me a Motorola Nexus 6, but I didn't have the phone yet so I couldn't activate it over the phone, and requested the nano-SIM.
It arrives tomorrow and I plan on putting it in an adapter and into my Rezound and activating it. That way on delivery day, I will just swap the SIM into the new phone. No guarantees, but I read this worked for the X Pure.
This is a really stupid question but I never bought a phone that I couldn't just pop my old sim card into and use right away. Are you saying I need to go buy a nano sim card from verizon and go through the activation process? I want to be able to use my phone straight out of the box so how to a buy a nano SIM so I have it ready to go on delivery day??
I've had unlimited data forever and I bet Verizon will claim new sim card means i'm no longer grandfathered but thats a headache for another day.
I'm ordering a nano sim right now, and putting it in my adapater and into my G3 to activate it then dropping it in my 6P when it gets here
EDIT: Update, I ordered the Nano SIM and they requested the device I would be using... I was slightly apprehensive but wen ahead and told them I'd be switching to the 6P and they were like ok... well.... let's figure out a way to get around this because it's requiring me to list a phone we currently offer. So she figured out a way to work around it and my Nano SIM is on the way! First time in a while i was pleased with the outcome from speaking with customer service lol.
Blindprophet32 said:
I'm ordering a nano sim right now, and putting it in my adapater and into my G3 to activate it then dropping it in my 6P when it gets here
EDIT: Update, I ordered the Nano SIM and they requested the device I would be using... I was slightly apprehensive but wen ahead and told them I'd be switching to the 6P and they were like ok... well.... let's figure out a way to get around this because it's requiring me to list a phone we currently offer. So she figured out a way to work around it and my Nano SIM is on the way! First time in a while i was pleased with the outcome from speaking with customer service lol.
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You just called Verizon to do this?
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You just called Verizon to do this?
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I actually did the online chat with a representitive... but yes... I took a chance and it worked out jsut fine. I figured I would get the, "If you try and activate the 6P on our network, you will not be able to. So i cannot provide you with a new nano SIM." But.. she was cool about it and told me to use an adapter and activate it on my G3 before placing the nano sim in my 6P... which was the plan anyways lol
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I'm ordering a nano sim right now, and putting it in my adapater and into my G3 to activate it then dropping it in my 6P when it gets here
EDIT: Update, I ordered the Nano SIM and they requested the device I would be using... I was slightly apprehensive but wen ahead and told them I'd be switching to the 6P and they were like ok... well.... let's figure out a way to get around this because it's requiring me to list a phone we currently offer. So she figured out a way to work around it and my Nano SIM is on the way! First time in a while i was pleased with the outcome from speaking with customer service lol.
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Blindprophet32 said:
I actually did the online chat with a representitive... but yes... I took a chance and it worked out jsut fine. I figured I would get the, "If you try and activate the 6P on our network, you will not be able to. So i cannot provide you with a new nano SIM." But.. she was cool about it and told me to use an adapter and activate it on my G3 before placing the nano sim in my 6P... which was the plan anyways lol
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I just went on Verizon chat and asked them for a nano-SIM and they said they would ship it out right away. They had no issue with what device it was for or anything. She said there was no need to activate it in my old phone just put it in the new phone when it arrives and it will been fine.... We shall see.
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I just went on Verizon chat and asked them for a nano-SIM and they said they would ship it out right away. They had no issue with what device it was for or anything. She said there was no need to activate it in my old phone just put it in the new phone when it arrives and it will been fine.... We shall see.
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I would pre activate it... Just in case lol.. Wonder why she told me she needed a device... Seems odd... Wonder if they know people are buying the Nexus devices and they are trying to gauge interest..
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mikexda said:
I've never had an unlocked phone before. I currently have an M8 (nano SIM) active on Verizon. I've read reports from people and their N6 experience. Some say it was simply a matter of moving the sim into the new phone. Others say they went through hell to get it to work. Does Verizon need to get involved? Is it really a case by case basis? Did people who had trouble do something wrong? Any insight appreciated.
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I can say with confidence that we shouldn't have a problem. Here's why:
I ordered a Nexus 6 from Motorola the day it was released. The Problem was,
I was using a HTC One M7 (Micro Sim)...The Nexus 6 is a Nano Sim and Verizon
didn't support the phone. I went into Verizon thinking all they had to do was
activate a Nano Sim and all is well....NOPE! They told me I needed a phone with
the Nano Sim to activate it. Luckily the guy that was helping me ended up being
AWESOME! He found an nonactivated Iphone 5 (Nano Sim) and added to my
account and then just swapped the Nano Sim into my Nexus 6 and LTE
popped up.
So i can 99% ensure that it will work with just a Sim Swap.
Lets cross our fingers for that 1% chance
All you chat people must have gotten lucky I chatted with VZW's customer service, and was told that while they could ship me out a new sim, I would have to CALL them to have it done. I sound like the odd man out here, so I must just gotten the nitwit of the bunch. Anyways, I ended up just ordering a "noosy 3rd gen sim card cutter" (from EBay, as I had an absolute nightmare TWICE with Amazon on this specific product for some reason), and feel like I'll be set to go.
It's literally a paper punch, but for sim cards. While I feel I could trim them with no issue, for ~$10 I felt like the added speed and surity of it all seemed like a no brainer to me
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All you chat people must have gotten lucky I chatted with VZW's customer service, and was told that while they could ship me out a new sim, I would have to CALL them to have it done. I sound like the odd man out here, so I must just gotten the nitwit of the bunch. Anyways, I ended up just ordering a "noosy 3rd gen sim card cutter" (from EBay, as I had an absolute nightmare TWICE with Amazon on this specific product for some reason), and feel like I'll be set to go.
It's literally a paper punch, but for sim cards. While I feel I could trim them with no issue, for ~$10 I felt like the added speed and surity of it all seemed like a no brainer to me
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Ya.... I felt like I got pretty lucky.. i expected to be given a lot of crap especially because I just switched to their newer/cheaper data plan and currently have 0 phones that use their silly monthly payment plan to buy a phone.
I spoke with a local Verizon rep in the same building as my work; he told me that I would be unable to activate my Nexus 6P on Verizon; I asked him about activating another phone and swapping that sim to the N6P, to which he responded, "Yeah, as long as they're (the sim card) the same size."
I take take his word with a grain of salt, as he seemed to think that the Nexus 6P was just the PLUS version of the standard Nexus 6; just like Apples iPhone 6 and iPhone 6+
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I spoke with a local Verizon rep in the same building as my work; he told me that I would be unable to activate my Nexus 6P on Verizon; I asked him about activating another phone and swapping that sim to the N6P, to which he responded, "Yeah, as long as they're (the sim card) the same size."
I take take his word with a grain of salt, as he seemed to think that the Nexus 6P was just the PLUS version of the standard Nexus 6; just like Apples iPhone 6 and iPhone 6+
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If you have an active Verizon sim card just put it in the 6P. If it's a micro then cut it, it still works. Another trick is if you happen to have a IPhone6 IMEI or any phone that is on the Verizon phone list that is Nano SIM you can use that in lieu to activate your 6P.
My friend just got a moto x pure and he just threw in his nano Sim and it worked right , plus tethering is unlocked since verizon doesn't have their mits on the phone first.

Has anyone used this phone on Verizon?

My wife and I are thinking of switching to Verizon as the AT&T service here is pretty bad. Ive seen some webpages that are kinda iffy on this phone since Verizon doesnt sell it directly. So, id like to hear if anyone has used this with Verizon and if they had any issues with it. Thanks.
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My wife and I are thinking of switching to Verizon as the AT&T service here is pretty bad. Ive seen some webpages that are kinda iffy on this phone since Verizon doesnt sell it directly. So, id like to hear if anyone has used this with Verizon and if they had any issues with it. Thanks.
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There are many of us here. I just got the 6P Monday and it works great on Verizon. I was already a customer so all I needed to do was swap sim cards but I'm sure it won't be a problem getting a new card when you sign up.
I am with Misterxtc on this one, I did not contact Verizon or anything all I did was pull the sim from my old phone, pop it in my Nexus 6P and I have been having just as good service as I did with my GS6.
I pulled my old VZW SIM and no issues. Even swapped back and forth between it and Project Fi
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There are many of us here. I just got the 6P Monday and it works great on Verizon. I was already a customer so all I needed to do was swap sim cards but I'm sure it won't be a problem getting a new card when you sign up.
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Somebody put down the Note 4/5 and came to hangout with us on the 6p .... Happy to see you joined the family brother. Thanks for all your work on the Note
I had a big issue getting the Nexus 6P on Verizon and I was already a customer. Basically neither Verizon Corporate store or the tech support hotline could fix the issue. My old phone had a micro SIM so I needed a new SIM but the new SIM could not activate in the Nexus 6P. Basically after some research I realized that I had to activate the new nano SIM in another phone. One option was to buy an adapter that allows the nano SIM to fit in my old phone. I was impatient so I carefully lined up the nano SIM in the micro SIM slot so it made proper contact. I called Verizon and told the rep. I have been dealing with this for days and that I needed her to just trust me. So I had her link the nano SIM with the old phone and after that, I was able to activate the SIM on the old phone. Once it was done, I just inserted the nano SIM in the Nexus 6P and it worked.
I would imagine that new customers will have same issue. You may want to see if a friend or relative has an old Verizon phone. If the old phone is micro SIM and uses a SIM tray, you will need the adapter. My old phone(LG G3) had a removal back and I was able to line up the connectors.
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Here is the official Verizon Wireless webpage which will allow you to check the IMEI(option 2) and for me it said my Nexus 6P was not compatible. This was end of December.
http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/nso/enterDeviceId.do?&zipRdr=y
As a few other said, if you already have the properly sized activated SIM card and/or an approved (read: sold by) Verizon device, you should be OK. If you have any friends who have an old VZW device that they aren't using and it uses the correct size SIM, go to Verizon and activate new service with that phone. Once the SIM is registered to your account, just put it in the 6p and you should be fine.
If you can only get your hands on one phone, it might be kind of janky but you could activate the first line with SIM A in the borrowed device, swap SIM A to a 6p A then put SIM B in the borrowed device, activate and place in 6p B. I guess it would come down to who you are dealing with at a Verizon store or on the phone if they'll let you do all that jockeying around. If the rep wants the sale badly enough, they should be willing to work with you. If they don't want to, I would gladly take my business to another VZW store and let someone else get the commission.
The last thought I had was that Best Buy sells the 6p. I don't know if they can sell it on VZW, but they have a slew of phones there, so you could use a display handset or another phone there to activate the SIM and then purchase the 6p?
The device is whitelisted, there's no hoops to jump through. Verizon will activate the device.
No problems activating.
Since I was already on Verizon, I just dropped my SIM in the phone. BAM! Up and running.
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The device is whitelisted, there's no hoops to jump through. Verizon will activate the device.
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Not totally true in regards to the 'no hoops' comment. Yes they will activate the device but not if you are on unlimited data. They refused to activate mine without changing to a new plan so I was forced to cut my micro sim to a nano. I went back and forth for weeks with different reps, even a supervisor. No dice. This was the first week of January.
I pulled my nanoSIM out of an iPhone 6 and dropped it into a 6p with no problems.
Not sure they will activate if you don't already have an existing account -- my in-laws tried that with a phone they purchased separately without already having a Verizon account and Verizon gave them a ton of ****.
I came from an LG G2, which has a micro SIM, and I have Unlimited Data. I bought my 64GB 6P from the Google Store on January 2nd, received it and activated it on January 7th.
Verizon didn't have any problems whatsoever activating it in store with a brand new Nano SIM. I am out of contract.
Tethering works natively right out of the box. It's been a breeze so far!
thanks for all the responses. we will be going to Verizon store tomorrow. hopefully we dont get hit for too much of a deposit.
I just popped the sim in. A friend I have at Verizon claims that they should be changing their policy on that particular issue soon. Hope he is right. I've been on verizon my whole life and for the last year and a half I've been on a NON-VZW Nexus 6 and now a Non-VZW Nexus P with no issues, except jealousy from the verizon guys when I walk in. From what I understand the will not give you a sim still. So you'll just need to pop it in. I'm sure we'd all be happy to elaborate on methods of getting a sim if yours is too big
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I had a big issue getting the Nexus 6P on Verizon and I was already a customer. Basically neither Verizon Corporate store or the tech support hotline could fix the issue. My old phone had a micro SIM so I needed a new SIM but the new SIM could not activate in the Nexus 6P. Basically after some research I realized that I had to activate the new nano SIM in another phone. One option was to buy an adapter that allows the nano SIM to fit in my old phone. I was impatient so I carefully lined up the nano SIM in the micro SIM slot so it made proper contact. I called Verizon and told the rep. I have been dealing with this for days and that I needed her to just trust me. So I had her link the nano SIM with the old phone and after that, I was able to activate the SIM on the old phone. Once it was done, I just inserted the nano SIM in the Nexus 6P and it worked.
I would imagine that new customers will have same issue. You may want to see if a friend or relative has an old Verizon phone. If the old phone is micro SIM and uses a SIM tray, you will need the adapter. My old phone(LG G3) had a removal back and I was able to line up the connectors.
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Here is the official Verizon Wireless webpage which will allow you to check the IMEI(option 2) and for me it said my Nexus 6P was not compatible. This was end of December.
http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/nso/enterDeviceId.do?&zipRdr=y
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Then you don't have a US model H1511.
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I walked in to a Verizon store and just asked for a new nano sim card and he gave me one. By the way I still have the unlimited data plan.
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My wife and I are thinking of switching to Verizon as the AT&T service here is pretty bad. Ive seen some webpages that are kinda iffy on this phone since Verizon doesnt sell it directly. So, id like to hear if anyone has used this with Verizon and if they had any issues with it. Thanks.
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sine the day it came out its been perfect - all roms, just flash correct radio/baseband/kernel
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Then you don't have a US model H1511.
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I bought it directly from the Google Online Store. Paid with US credit card, shipped to US address. If I don't then Google sent me the wrong one. Any way to tell?
EDIT - Just checked bootloader:
BL: Angler-02.45
Baseband: Angler-02.50
Product/Variant: ANGLER-VN2
Serial #: starts with 8XV7N15B.........
moboxo said:
sine the day it came out its been perfect - all roms, just flash correct radio/baseband/kernel
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I just upgraded from an S4 today. Had some trouble cause the nano sim would not work on the s4 (with an adapter). Apparently the s4 cannot use it at all. Went to the VZ store and was told sorry, nothing we can do. I called VZ and got a great rep who took my info, told me to insert the nano sim into my new 6p and whala, it worked. I have to admit I was a little afraid I just bought a $500 door stop.
No problem here either. Walked my Google purchased 6P into the local Verizon store and they had the SIM chip installed and activated inside of 5 minutes. Quick and free.

Note 7 Still Fully Functioning

Hey guys,
So I thought I'd make an account and post that I still have a Note 7 on VZW and it's still functioning, it doesn't seem to be re-directing calls to Verizon's customer support.
A bit about why this may be:
I turned in my Note 7 last year and got a Pixel XL. This Note 7, which was on my wife's account in December was swapped with my old Nexus 6P. Since we never actually ordered a replacement phone on my wife's line, about a week or two ago we finally received a box to return her Note 7, which we have not done yet. I decided to go ahead and put my Pixel XL's SIM in to the Note 7, and everything seems to work perfectly.
I even wiped the phone and I'm not getting any update notifications, if I check for updates I am told that there is one available (no description on what it does like usual) and am asked if I would like to install the update with three options. Yes, Later, or no. I clicked no and no further prompts occur.
If you guys who are still holding out on your Note 7 want any information or anything to perhaps figure out workarounds, let me know and I will do what I can.
They will most likely brick the SIM in your note 7 tonight at midnight. Expect it to happen. They can certainly tell what kind of phone the sim is in, even if the sim was originally in a different phone. Most likely any sim in a note 7 that is connected to a Verizon network will be bricked. Today is literally the last day our N7's will work with a Verizon SIM. Unless there have been some last minute changes to what VZ is going to do - and I doubt that, as they have already been bricking peopls sims in N7's for at least a week now - the chances are almost certain that your N7 will not work sometime later tonight.
Still going strong with my note 7 everything works perfect like it should on Verizon
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They won't "brick" a sim card. It called a hot-line. Its done on the server to disable certain functions from certain models. Its easily reversed and can be avoided.
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Its easily reversed and can be avoided.
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Are you suggesting that there's something that we can do / could have done to retain service to our Note7's?
I had my N7 hot lined by Verizon on 1/26. 3 days later I had my N4 activated on the line after telling an online chat rep that I had misplaced the 7. Texts still didn't work, so after another online chat and again having to confirm my N7 wasn't in my possession they fixed it. I figured since both agents were eager to fix the line, but only if I had returned the N7 or "lost" it that it was pretty likely I'd be able to activate my 7 again. I waited a few days for the 1/31 deadline for hotlines to pass and went and activated this beautiful black onyx Note 7, and voila it worked. Unless they manually church imei on an account that's been signed off as no longer being tied to a n7 and in good standing, I think I'm all good till the N8.
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I had my N7 hot lined by Verizon on 1/26. 3 days later I had my N4 activated on the line after telling an online chat rep that I had misplaced the 7. Texts still didn't work, so after another online chat and again having to confirm my N7 wasn't in my possession they fixed it. I figured since both agents were eager to fix the line, but only if I had returned the N7 or "lost" it that it was pretty likely I'd be able to activate my 7 again. I waited a few days for the 1/31 deadline for hotlines to pass and went and activated this beautiful black onyx Note 7, and voila it worked. Unless they manually church imei on an account that's been signed off as no longer being tied to a n7 and in good standing, I think I'm all good till the N8.
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Did you use your original Note7 SIM*when reactivating the phone?
raneym305 said:
Did you use your original Note7 SIM*when reactivating the phone?
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*if you work for or are affiliated with Samsung or Verizon, I'm not sure what Note 7 we are talking about. I lost mine* yes never touched the sim. It was the same one that came with the N7.
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*if you work for or are affiliated with Samsung or Verizon, I'm not sure what Note 7 we are talking about. I lost mine* yes never touched the sim. It was the same one that came with the N7.
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HAHAHA
The reason I ask is that, when I found that service had been cut to my Note7 I wasn't able to reactivate my Note 4 via the MyVerizon portal- I actually had to call into Verizon to do it. I was told by*multiple Customer Service Reps that they had put a block on the SIM card itself, not the actual device. Furthermore, while trying to reactivate my Note 4 (which had been working just fine the week before) they killed that SIM too... It ended up taking umpteen phone calls, 3 online chats, and a trip to the Verizon store (all-in-all, basically an entire afternoon) just to get*my Note 4 reactivated with*a*new SIM.
I'm just trying to avoid going through that process again.
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HAHAHA
The reason I ask is that, when I found that service had been cut to my Note7 I wasn't able to reactivate my Note 4 via the MyVerizon portal- I actually had to call into Verizon to do it. I was told by*multiple Customer Service Reps that they had put a block on the SIM card itself, not the actual device. Furthermore, while trying to reactivate my Note 4 (which had been working just fine the week before) they killed that SIM too... It ended up taking umpteen phone calls, 3 online chats, and a trip to the Verizon store (all-in-all, basically an entire afternoon) just to get*my Note 4 reactivated with*a*new SIM.
I'm just trying to avoid going through that process again.
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I hear ya I too was hesitant just because I didn't feel like having too contact them again after saying the N7 was lost and have it mysteriously in my possession and trying to connect to the network. During my 1st contact after N7 data went down I did mention I was an attorney and that what they were doing was really gray legally. All I got from only online chat reps was that my number had been hot lined and that they would fix it. Halfway through activating my note 4 they asked if I had returned n7 I said no I didn't see how it was even relevant but that I had lost it. Not another word. But my texts did not work. So next day again via online chat the rep asked about the N7. I said I "misplaced" it. She asked when. I said 3 days prior, 1/26. The day they hot lined it. She didn't say anything else, asked me to reboot the note 4 and it was calling and texting again. Fast forward five days I went to Verizon and activated my "misplaced" N7 via online hub without issue. No mention off a sim card ever and I touched neither phones sim card since the days I bought the phones.
Well, it worked... for three days...
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Well, it worked... for three days...
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Yea mine nu just bit it again too. This is ridiculous.
Back on the Note 4. I'll give it a day or two before attempting to reactivate my Note7. As of now, there's been nothing to indicate that this round of hotlining will have different results than the last.
I got antsy. I reactivated my Note 7 last night and haven't had a single issue.
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I got antsy. I reactivated my Note 7 last night and haven't had a single issue.
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Got hotwired as well, What method are you using to reactivate you're phone? The online service or are you calling in and activating? It seems as if my sim card itself is what hotwired.
Y0sHii said:
Got hotwired as well, What method are you using to reactivate you're phone? The online service or are you calling in and activating? It seems as if my sim card itself is what hotwired.
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That's why I reactivated my Note 4, then trimmed down the SIM and used today. I now have 3-4 Nano SIM Cards, and a Nano to Micro SIM adapters. Assuming the hotlining will continue on a weekly basis, I'll just reactivate my Note 4 with one of the Nano SIMs not in use, then slip it into my Note7.
The first time I was hotlined, I didn't do any SIM swapping. I reactivated my Note 4 then, a few days later, went online and reactived my Note7 that was still loaded with SIM that had been hotlined.
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Hi guys. I've been going with this for about a week or two now, similar to you guys and want to share my experience. My device was purchased through 3rd party means, and has no purchase history in my Verizon account. I was hot lined this past Tuesday, the 7th. I called and was on the phone with a manager for over an hour, who was extremely reluctant to help me (obviously). She told me that the recall had changed status to involuntary, and that Samsung is forcing them to hot line the phones due to whatever reason.
This is obviously crap, but boy was she reluctant to prove it and everything. So i said whatever and hung out. Two days later, I went to reactivate the phone on using their Online activation, and I received an error message saying my account was blocked from doing so. I spoke with an online rep who reactivated my phone with no questions asked. I asked her if there was anything wrong with my account or line, to which she said No. I asked her about anything relating to hot line and she told me specifically this: "If a Note7 is active on the line, block services to drive customer to upgrade". She totally disregarded the message, and said she'll place a flag on my account that if I continue to have an interrupt of service, I will look into it further.
It's obvious that if you are hot lined, and your calls get redirected to Verizon's special reps specifically for Note7 users, and will be their to assist you and leave you with no choice but to upgrade. If you contact verizon differently, whether it be over the phone through their normal tech lines or through their web portal, you are handled by the run of the mill employees who either don't care, or aren't told to handle your case by special means. Just keep fighting them.
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That's why I reactivated my Note 4, then trimmed down the SIM and used today. I now have 3-4 Nano SIM Cards, and a Nano to Micro SIM adapters. Assuming the hotlining will continue on a weekly basis, I'll just reactivate my Note 4 with one of the Nano SIMs not in use, then slip it into my Note7.
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....Beautiful, simply beautiful. THIS has been the answer I've been trying to squeeze out of the Verizon rep's from going to the local store, chat and even 3+ hour phone sessions. Literally all i needed to know was if my device's info was being broadcasted from the sim card that was previously hot wired!! It seems like it is therefore all i need now is to activate my old note 3. have it activated for a bit then shave that card down to fit the note 7. Go to the store and get a new sd card for the note 3 then activate and reactivate on a weekly basis until the note 8 comes out. Still looks like there is a way to Limp to the finish line with this recall/hotline issue.
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CarbonMan said:
Hi guys. I've been going with this for about a week or two now, similar to you guys and want to share my experience. My device was purchased through 3rd party means, and has no purchase history in my Verizon account. I was hot lined this past Tuesday, the 7th. I called and was on the phone with a manager for over an hour, who was extremely reluctant to help me (obviously). She told me that the recall had changed status to involuntary, and that Samsung is forcing them to hot line the phones due to whatever reason.
This is obviously crap, but boy was she reluctant to prove it and everything. So i said whatever and hung out. Two days later, I went to reactivate the phone on using their Online activation, and I received an error message saying my account was blocked from doing so. I spoke with an online rep who reactivated my phone with no questions asked. I asked her if there was anything wrong with my account or line, to which she said No. I asked her about anything relating to hot line and she told me specifically this: "If a Note7 is active on the line, block services to drive customer to upgrade". She totally disregarded the message, and said she'll place a flag on my account that if I continue to have an interrupt of service, I will look into it further.
It's obvious that if you are hot lined, and your calls get redirected to Verizon's special reps specifically for Note7 users, and will be their to assist you and leave you with no choice but to upgrade. If you contact verizon differently, whether it be over the phone through their normal tech lines or through their web portal, you are handled by the run of the mill employees who either don't care, or aren't told to handle your case by special means. Just keep fighting them.
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Interesting, i was told that the service of hotlining phones were "automatically done by a computer at Samsung" -__- . Yes Samsung the manufacturer not the one providing service to the phone and literally got the run around for hours. So what im getting from your entry here is that they're are explicitly told to deny, deny, deny until you're give up and use an upgrade which will tie you to a phone for 2 years that you never wanted in the first place or activate an old device that you'll have to keep upwards of about 6 months until the note 8 comes out.. Unless you find that Golden employee that either doesn't know or doesn't care and will restore service to the phone even if its temporary. Ok *opens support Verizon chat* lets do this again..
Although this process of hotlining our phones affects our SIM cards (and not our phones), it isn't permanent. A few days after my first hotlining, I was able to reactivate my Note7 still using the original SIM card.
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raneym305 said:
Although this process of hotlining our phones affects our SIM cards (and not our phones), it isn't permanent. A few days after my first hotlining, I was able to reactivate my Note7 still using the original SIM card.
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By activating a different device in place of it, then activating the note 7?
Or just deactivating the device waiting a few days and reactivating it?

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