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Any developers out there can figure out what the hell is going on? Lol. I know the iPhone is capable, but what's holding the Evo 4G back? Hardware? I mean I hope it's not for such a technical beast. Software? Lens? Ugh.
Considering the gs out performs the evo this isn't a big surprise.
It's probably a few reasons, first being the device relies on a slow sd card (out of the box) vs fast internal memory. Meaning they had to be careful with file size and how much data got pushed from the camera to the card. better sensor, better lens, less compression etc.. The Evo also records in a ****ty codec
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Evo 4G
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Any developers out there can figure out what the hell is going on? Lol. I know the iPhone is capable, but what's holding the Evo 4G back? Hardware? I mean I hope it's not for such a technical beast. Software? Lens? Ugh.
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Software. Also note that the iPhone does technically record 20+ fps video, it is doubling frames, so a lot of the time its only actually capturing 15-20fps and then doubling some of the frames. Once we get full kernel source, we can overclock the camera chip the same way we kinda did for the Nexus and improve the bitrate, audio quality, and video fps. See this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=698287
I read somewhere that HTC was doing a huge amount of compressing of the video that is recorded. It has to be something like that in my opinion.
The iphone 4 has a back-lit camera sensor. That is likely helping a lot for this indoor video. I have also read that the evo4g compresses video a lot.
Dam, makes the Evo look like sh1t lol.
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The iphone 4 has a back-lit camera sensor. That is likely helping a lot for this indoor video. I have also read that the evo4g compresses video a lot.
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The Evo also has a backlit sensor. Look up the Omnivision OV8810 if you wan't more info on it, its the same sensor used in the Incredible. The only difference is since the iPhone is only a 5mp sensor, the pixels are ever so slightly larger, which will help with low light performance a little, but not drastically on these sensors. Its mostly software, since both of these sensors are so similar being backlit and whatnot
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I read somewhere that HTC was doing a huge amount of compressing of the video that is recorded. It has to be something like that in my opinion.
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Look at the codecs... iPhone4 is h264 (10) (what we think of as mp4 on desktop) and EVO is H264 (2) which is horribly low bitrate, thus the blockyness.
Hopefully Geniusdog254 is right and we can pull a bit better fps out of it, but I don't think we're going to be able to do much about the low light abilities, the iphone4 has a better sensor and optics.
I didn't realize htc had a backlit sensor. Good. Hopefully they can get their software to be worthy of it.
NM, said above.
Not to change the subject, but how are these YouTube videos playing inside the evo browser? Usually clicking on them opens HTC flash player.
Easy - bitrate..
we need to figure out how to increase the video recording bitrate.. They've done this on the nexus one - so perhaps the same trick would work here?
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/nexus-one-video-recording-pushing-the-limits-even-further/
-mark
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Software. Also note that the iPhone does technically record 20+ fps video, it is doubling frames, so a lot of the time its only actually capturing 15-20fps and then doubling some of the frames. Once we get full kernel source, we can overclock the camera chip the same way we kinda did for the Nexus and improve the bitrate, audio quality, and video fps. See this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=698287
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Wow, did not know that.
Does the iPhone 4 have continuous focus?
That's one thing that sourly lacking in the HTC recording app.
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HTC's response:
Thank you for your reply. I researched into this further. The Auto-Focus option is only for the initial focus of the image on the screen. There is not a setting on the device for continuous focus.
In regards to the quality of the video, there are many factors that come into play when creating a video. Movement, lighting, and focus are all a part of the quality. Since the device does not have a form of continuous focus, then your queslity is not going to be as good as a device with this focus feature.
The devices also uses 2MB/s transfer rate to the SD card. This is not dependant on what type of SD card you have in the phone. Higher class cards indicate the Minimum data transfer rates to and from the card itself. Unfortuantely, this cannot be adjusted using native settings on the device. I do apologize for any inconvenience that you may have experienced.
To send a reply to this message or let me know I have successfully answered your question log in to our ContactUs site using your email address and your ticket number xxxxxxxxx.
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Jeffery
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So, is he saying that no matter what SD card speed we have, HTC caps the data transfer to 2mb/s?
I think this is how we can uncap that limit: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=10866582
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So, is he saying that no matter what SD card speed we have, HTC caps the data transfer to 2mb/s?
I think this is how we can uncap that limit: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=10866582
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I wouldn't trust someone who cannot even spell or construct sentences.
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Software. Also note that the iPhone does technically record 20+ fps video, it is doubling frames, so a lot of the time its only actually capturing 15-20fps and then doubling some of the frames. Once we get full kernel source, we can overclock the camera chip the same way we kinda did for the Nexus and improve the bitrate, audio quality, and video fps. See this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=698287
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do u think it'd also be possible to enable continuous autofocus?
Can somebody record some shots using the updated camcorder app in the ota? It would be really interesting to see the "improvements" made by htc.
am uploading something right now... ill post when done its just a test ...am using the 2.2 that just came out
yes plz audio on camcorder is the most fail
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M829mZlnnic
i just did it random i dint even check the audio thing haha
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i dotn know if i did something wrng but its not showing the 720 p on the youtube.. maybe it takes a while to processs :l
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M829mZlnnic
i just did it random i dint even check the audio thing haha
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i dotn know if i did something wrng but its not showing the 720 p on the youtube.. maybe it takes a while to processs :l
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Check the codec you recorded with; if it was h.264 you can only capture @480p
Not looking to good....maybe check the code try again.... oh well maybe the devs will make better.
Yeah check your settings. If that was 720p I don't see much different. Hopefully your settings weren't right.
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there it is go to 720p....it was processing
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Check the codec you recorded with; if it was h.264 you can only capture @480p
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Evo video FPS is killing me. Subpar
edtate said:
Check the codec you recorded with; if it was h.264 you can only capture @480p
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Got this from another forum,
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When i select h264 as the compression I can only go up to 800 x 400 resolution. I have to select mpeg4 decoding to be able to record at 720p. Anyone else notice?
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The audio is ALOT better on the vid.
All I can say is, 24fps my ASS! *sigh*
Is there a way to just disable the video camera completely, because with that type of quality, if I ever did record something by accident, I'd have to kill myself.
On a "meh" note, the h.264 800x480 recording is very smooth and looks pretty good.
Not 720p, which still is pretty much what it was before, but at least it's something.
Really guys? I think it looks pretty decent. It's still no iPhone 4, but when he gets outside it definitely looks a bit smoother than it did before, and detail is a bit better as well. I remember before it would look like the camera had trouble even recording in 720 and would hiccup every few seconds. It may only be 24fps, but at least it's a CONSISTENT 24fps. don't forget every movie you've ever seen was filmed at 24fps... And yea, the indoor portion kinda sucked but that's due to the crap sensor they put in the evo.
while not recording the actual image on the screen looks a little smoother,but to my eyes it seems when you record its actually worst then before
audio is sooooooooooooooooooooo much better
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Really guys? I think it looks pretty decent. It's still no iPhone 4, but when he gets outside it definitely looks a bit smoother than it did before, and detail is a bit better as well. I remember before it would look like the camera had trouble even recording in 720 and would hiccup every few seconds. It may only be 24fps, but at least it's a CONSISTENT 24fps. don't forget every movie you've ever seen was filmed at 24fps... And yea, the indoor portion kinda sucked but that's due to the crap sensor they put in the evo.
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What are you talking about? It's using an 8 megapixel version of the EXACT same sensor they used in the iPhone 4 by the SAME manufacturer, and unlike most camera sensors in smartphones today, it's actually backlit. Please stop blaming the hardware before recognizing the real root of the problem.
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Really guys? I think it looks pretty decent. It's still no iPhone 4, but when he gets outside it definitely looks a bit smoother than it did before, and detail is a bit better as well. I remember before it would look like the camera had trouble even recording in 720 and would hiccup every few seconds. It may only be 24fps, but at least it's a CONSISTENT 24fps. don't forget every movie you've ever seen was filmed at 24fps... And yea, the indoor portion kinda sucked but that's due to the crap sensor they put in the evo.
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Ya, but pro cameras don't drop frame rates in low light.
I've seen my EVO drop to 8-12 FPS while recording in low light. Almost impossible to watch.
**** man i've given up on evo as a recording device.. what a waste of space..
lol worth a try lol i really want the camcorder to be better.
... what? We already have 720p at 30 fps...
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... what? We already have 720p at 30 fps...
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yeah what he said... root that *****, rom that ****, and 720p it up.
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yeah what he said... root that *****, rom that ****, and 720p it up.
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No, still wrong. You've got 720p30 on stock.
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No, still wrong. You've got 720p30 on stock.
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I never said it wasn't present, I was merely suggesting that rooting the g2 is most deff the way to go. Please read more carefully next time.
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LOLLLLLL!!!!
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I never said it wasn't present, I was merely suggesting that rooting the g2 is most deff the way to go. Please read more carefully next time.
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This thread is specifically about 720p30, not roms or rooting. You specified in your above post "root that *****, rom that 720p it up" which is implying that the only way to get 720p was to root and install a custom rom. Regardless of what you meant, that's what came across.
Please... write more carefully in the future?
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Yeah recording a video at 720p is already there but it's not at a steady 30fps as advertised - the only phone I've seen that can record 720p at a constant 30fps is the iPhone 4 (picture/video quality is superb).
Try recording a 720p video at night and tell me how it looks - yeah it looks real bad and choppy.
omg some of the things i read in here is just ridiculous...
the G2 comes with 720p regardless of root or not, but if you ever done a little bit of recoding in low lights you will see it is not 30 FPS it is more like 10fps
G1_enthusiast said:
omg some of the things i read in here is just ridiculous...
the G2 comes with 720p regardless of root or not, but if you ever done a little bit of recoding in low lights you will see it is not 30 FPS it is more like 10fps
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/facepalm
It's called shutter speed. If the phone didn't slow down the shutter speed, you wouldn't be able to see anything.
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It's called shutter speed. If the phone didn't slow down the shutter speed, you wouldn't be able to see anything.
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thansk for reminding me, hmm time to do some experiment
Yea the camcorder looks like ****..My blackberry 8900 would record better videos. I wish the cam would record sweet with no lag. Only thing that sucks on the G2..So can anyone get this to someone who would actually be able to improve it??
Um shutter speed? Not correct
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Um shutter speed? Not correct
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Would you care to tell me what is correct?
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Shutter speed..... in video...? Seriously are you kidding? Do you have any idea what a shutter is or how it works?
Has anyone noticed an improvement in video recording frame rate and stability while overclocked?
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Shutter speed..... in video...? Seriously are you kidding? Do you have any idea what a shutter is or how it works?
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I know there's no shutter speed in video. I just can't remember the proper term for it in video...
Anyway, here's what a shutter is: its kinda like a really fast gate inside of still cameras that opens and closes very fast to control the amount of light that actually makes it to the image sensor (or film.) Faster shutter speed = less light and less blur possible, while slower shutter speed = more light but more blur is possible. So yes, I do know what a shutter is.
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I know there's no shutter speed in video. I just can't remember the proper term for it in video...
Anyway, here's what a shutter is: its kinda like a really fast gate inside of still cameras that opens and closes very fast to control the amount of light that actually makes it to the image sensor (or film.) Faster shutter speed = less light and less blur possible, while slower shutter speed = more light but more blur is possible. So yes, I do know what a shutter is.
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the F stop right?
ibemad1 said:
I know there's no shutter speed in video. I just can't remember the proper term for it in video...
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Your cmos sensor can only take in as much light as is allowed by the timing of the frame rate and integration time per sample.
There would be only two reasons that I can think of for why the video frame rate drop in low light. 1st would be it is going to a longer integration time to allow the cmos to gather more light per sample. Or 2nd is that the camera software is applying an artificial and likely CPU intensive technique similar to the pseudo color night vision modes on older camcorders where it tries to enhance the picture and estimate the details it is missing.
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Your cmos sensor can only take in as much light as is allowed by the timing of the frame rate and integration time per sample.
There would be only two reasons that I can think of for why the video frame rate drop in low light. 1st would be it is going to a longer integration time to allow the cmos to gather more light per sample. Or 2nd is that the camera software is applying an artificial and likely CPU intensive technique similar to the pseudo color night vision modes on older camcorders where it tries to enhance the picture and estimate the details it is missing.
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I'd vote for the first one, as there's no noticible increse in CPU usage as the light level drops.
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Topic says it all, when shooting video in dark situations framerate drops to 10 - 12 -17 so it's frustrating! Since the specification of the video says that the variable frame rate if there is a chance to somehow locked at 30fps!
Great magicians of hacking help please!!!
Nope, wait for a update from HTC and hope for the best... (for now anyway)
Even if we set Exposure to -2 and ISO to 800 we can't achive 30 fps, so, if we lock frame rate to 30, in low light, it is possible that the video is to dark for us to do anything with it.
IMHO DHD have a poor camera sensor for low light.
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Even if we set Exposure to -2 and ISO to 800 we can't achive 30 fps, so, if we lock frame rate to 30, in low light, it is possible that the video is to dark for us to do anything with it.
IMHO DHD have a poor camera sensor for low light.
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Yes or not enough processing power to handle the low light data in real time, or enough power but the processor is busy getting US stocks data for people who never trade in US stocks and running Facebook for people who dont have a facebook account and.....(long list of featutes that burn my cpu and battery but never use or want)
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Yes or not enough processing power to handle the low light data in real time, or enough power but the processor is busy getting US stocks data for people who never trade in US stocks and running Facebook for people who dont have a facebook account and.....(long list of featutes that burn my cpu and battery but never use or want)
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Haha, love the sarcasm
You do know you can remove all the crap you don't want like Stocks etc? One of the many joys of rooting your phone
I really wish there was a way to get the camera to shoot 30 fps in low light too
I really dont care how much noise will be introduced. 30 fps is most important. Is this even possible for a developer here to work on since this is HTC's own app and i think HTC dont release their source?
Have you tried shooting with flashlight on? Or setting the white balance manually, I'm sure I read somewhere that helps, turning off automatic white balance removes the annoying changes in brightness and helps improve framers alongside setting exposure to manual.
Be nice if it just shot un 30fps all the time like iPhone, I'm sure it will be sorted.
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gamesmachine said:
Have you tried shooting with flashlight on? Or setting the white balance manually, I'm sure I read somewhere that helps, turning off automatic white balance removes the annoying changes in brightness and helps improve framers alongside setting exposure to manual.
Be nice if it just shot un 30fps all the time like iPhone, I'm sure it will be sorted.
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I have a gut feeling it wont be sorted. Take a look at the old Desire. It's camcorder is still shooting at 22 fps in optimal light! Probably less than 10 in low light. HTC just doesnt seem to care
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I have a gut feeling it wont be sorted. Take a look at the old Desire. It's camcorder is still shooting at 22 fps in optimal light! Probably less than 10 in low light. HTC just doesnt seem to care
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Do you own a Desire(old one)?From what you say I guess you don't.With the Desire,if you set the ISO to 800 you can record anything between 25 and 30 fps,even in low light.It introduces some more noise,but not that much more that what the iPhone does in low light.Dunno why the DHD doesn't change much with the iso...
So, is there a way to record at 30fps at night?I searched all over the forum and didn't find a way.(besides reducing the exposure which makes videos very dark)
I noticed a thing that when I focus the objects aren't so shadowy because of low fps but only just for a moment like half of second and then it returnes to the normal 10-15 fps.
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So, is there a way to record at 30fps at night?I searched all over the forum and didn't find a way.(besides reducing the exposure which makes videos very dark)
I noticed a thing that when I focus the objects aren't so shadowy because of low fps but only just for a moment like half of second and then it returnes to the normal 10-15 fps.
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Nah dude there probably is no way. It's the hardware here that's the problem here.
The problem is that the sensors in your camera need a certain minimum amount of time to get the picture to look correct.
I could tell you how to get it locked at 30, but then you would hate me because your video would turn out extremely blurry, and to that extent, so dark that you might as well have just recorded a black sheet of paper.
(This would of course come with rooting your phone, which I wouldn't think is a problem)
The thing is, its been coded into your device to reduce the frame-rate, so that you at least get a scene in a video at a bad frame rate, instead of black in a video with good frame rate
Yeah, but as I said before, there is a thing that when I focus the video there is a small interval of time(about 1/2 sec) when the frames seem to be normal(25-30).I don't know if this happens only on my device but before the gingerbread update I didn't notice this.You could try it or I can even send you a recording.And why does the camera sensor state that it can record @60 fps in light and 30 fps in dark?(according to this thread p=13510330)
I don't know very much about its camera and I don't say that I am right about this, but I want to improve the recording as much as possible.Even my friends MOTO Defy is better in low light.
Also will a custom rom improve the performance of recording?
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Yeah, but as I said before, there is a thing that when I focus the video there is a small interval of time(about 1/2 sec) when the frames seem to be normal(25-30).I don't know if this happens only on my device but before the gingerbread update I didn't notice this.You could try it or I can even send you a recording.And why does the camera sensor state that it can record @60 fps in light and 30 fps in dark?(according to this thread p=13510330)
I don't know very much about its camera and I don't say that I am right about this, but I want to improve the recording as much as possible.Even my friends MOTO Defy is better in low light.
Also will a custom rom improve the performance of recording?
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Custom roms dont improve the low light recording unfortunately.
sergiu_07_07 said:
Yeah, but as I said before, there is a thing that when I focus the video there is a small interval of time(about 1/2 sec) when the frames seem to be normal(25-30).I don't know if this happens only on my device but before the gingerbread update I didn't notice this.You could try it or I can even send you a recording.And why does the camera sensor state that it can record @60 fps in light and 30 fps in dark?(according to this thread p=13510330)
I don't know very much about its camera and I don't say that I am right about this, but I want to improve the recording as much as possible.Even my friends MOTO Defy is better in low light.
Also will a custom rom improve the performance of recording?
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I don't think any sensor manufacturer can specify framerate in "dark" because how do you define "dark"? What your eyes percieve as "dark" is more like "pitch black" for a camera sensor. Especially a small crappy one that sits behind a small crappy lens. Remember that to have 30 fps, you should be able to "gather" enough light to make a properly exposed image for a 1/30 of a second. Take your point-and-shoot camera, or even a DSLR, set it to manual mode, set the ISO to 800, set the shutter speed to 1/30, set the aperture to f/8 for a 28mm equvalent focal length (if you are using DSLR, for a point-and-shoot with a smaller than DX sensor, you have to dial it even higher) and see what picture you can get with those settings. This is how much light hits the sensor for 1/30 of a second. This is how your videos will look like.
EDIT: You should not compare video recording framerate on phones that record in different resolution. DEFY can record up to 640x480 (if I'm not mistaken) which is 1/3 of the frame recorded with the DHD (1280x720). With a good recording algorithm this means three times more light per pixel (if the sensor is the same).
Hi guys
The samsung galaxy note 3's slow motion video is quite bad
I tried both 120fps at 1/4 and 120fps at 1/8.
The output is very low quality comparing to iphone 5s slow motion.
Any feedback is welcome.
Do you know a better slow motion app?
Do you have a recommended settings?
Thanks
Can you post some video of it. I'd love to see it.
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Can you post some video of it. I'd love to see it.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdB4z0JZU_o&feature=c4-overview&list=UU9U7YdFdlBQHo7moeKPFcFA
Your right, it doesn't look that great. The people walking by on the left look a bit Blurry. That really sucks.
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Your right, it doesn't look that great. The people walking by on the left look a bit Blurry. That really sucks.
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This feature was the only thing keeping me from flashing an AOSP rom onto my note. Looks like I'll be rocking ParanoidAndroid!
nooooo not the slow mo
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damn bummer man (
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was that at 1/8? or 1/4. 120FPS at 1/8 is still gonna give you a pretty choppy 15fps even if you export the video at 30
from what it looks like, the iphone 5 usually goes to 1/4 which would still be smooth at 30
i noticed discrepancies in different note 2 slow mo videos and how they did things.
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was that at 1/8? or 1/4. 120FPS at 1/8 is still gonna give you a pretty choppy 15fps even if you export the video at 30
from what it looks like, the iphone 5 usually goes to 1/4 which would still be smooth at 30
i noticed discrepancies in different note 2 slow mo videos and how they did things.
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It was 1/8 but 1/4 is no different.
Slow mo in note 3 sucks unfortunately.
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It was 1/8 but 1/4 is no different.
Slow mo in note 3 sucks unfortunately.
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I don't think it has a problem: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BLiCKiLFbM
Here's a video from sam pullen at 1/8 and its noticeably more smooth than your sample
This same also looks pretty decent: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WL1BfkzPQ5I
however, like i mentioned above, this would one would look better if he shot at 1/4 instead of 1/8 simply because then you're voluntarily reducing it to 15 FPS.
Additionally, looking at iphone5 slomo videos, it's pretty apparent that their movie editor to set the slomo sections does make use of interpolation. Thus, if you really wanted to use the slomo for anything beyond just a for fun thing, and you're editing a video of a trip or something with slow mo sections, just take that 1/4 footage, run it through twixtor and bam, you can even do stuff like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0Kb1hDdseY
Basically. don't shoot at 1/8 unless you plan to interpolate it.
Apple's slowmo is post processed, so feel free to compare the two after you post process your own
granted, its more convenient the other way, i THINK the HTC gallery might handle that. considering the camera got ported a few months ago, it's possible the gallery will get ported to make help make slowmo clips on the fly.
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I don't think it has a problem: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BLiCKiLFbM
Here's a video from sam pullen at 1/8 and its noticeably more smooth than your sample
This same also looks pretty decent: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WL1BfkzPQ5I
however, like i mentioned above, this would one would look better if he shot at 1/4 instead of 1/8 simply because then you're voluntarily reducing it to 15 FPS.
Additionally, looking at iphone5 slomo videos, it's pretty apparent that their movie editor to set the slomo sections does make use of interpolation. Thus, if you really wanted to use the slomo for anything beyond just a for fun thing, and you're editing a video of a trip or something with slow mo sections, just take that 1/4 footage, run it through twixtor and bam, you can even do stuff like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0Kb1hDdseY
Basically. don't shoot at 1/8 unless you plan to interpolate it.
Apple's slowmo is post processed, so feel free to compare the two after you post process your own
granted, its more convenient the other way, i THINK the HTC gallery might handle that. considering the camera got ported a few months ago, it's possible the gallery will get ported to make help make slowmo clips on the fly.
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Well if you find your example videos decent then we are not on the same page.
I found those quiet ****ty. Event the one with seagulls, the original poster hated his own video.
About iphone5's slow mo, I don't care what iPhone software does. The outcome is 10 times better than Note3 unfortunately. And I find dumb to say ''use 1/4'' when there is a 1/8 option.
It reminded me of people who pretend to be happy about their phone's battery life by saying ''Don't enable wifi and 3g. Reduce the brightness and don't sync your email''
henihazbay said:
Well if you find your example videos decent then we are not on the same page.
I found those quiet ****ty. Event the one with seagulls, the original poster hated his own video.
About iphone5's slow mo, I don't care what iPhone software does. The outcome is 10 times better than Note3 unfortunately. And I find dumb to say ''use 1/4'' when there is a 1/8 option.
It reminded me of people who pretend to be happy about their phone's battery life by saying ''Don't enable wifi and 3g. Reduce the brightness and don't sync your email''
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Lol ok there buddy, no need to get pissy. Just offering and explanation and solution to your so called "problem"
At the end of the day, 1/8 will come out to 15 FPS in a 30 FPS video. Have you ever played a game at 15 FPS? Its bad. Why would a 15 FPS video magically be better. No matter what, that fact is not going to change. If a few at 1/8 is smooth at 30 FPS, then there is additional interpolation going on. If you actually have the pride to get something done yourself, figure it out, it's not hard. If you want to sit there and continue to whine in the same tone you just did, then you're more than welcome to return your note and get yourself an iPhone, noone will really care.
Quite franky, if I were to speak like you, "i don't care" if you cant get your slomo to look nice, because I know I will be able to. It's the same thing with goPro slow motion video. Have you seen what the RAW looks like? not pretty. Why do those videos look so good? interpolation and post processing. If there was an App on android that handled that, then you can run off and buy it and stop whining. But until then, you will either have to make do....or abandon it.
Just to summarize things again for you in case you actually want to put some work into it rather than complain.
1) If you want to go to 1/8, you'll need to interpolate, period, that's just how it works, learn some video basics if you need to
2) The easiest way for you to do that with the best quality is using sony vegas + twixtor
3) If you want to go deeper into it, I use premiere/after effects + twixtor.
Doing 2000 FPS shots are pretty fun but basic rules of video apply, none of this is magic.
Also seagulls? Have you never seen a duck in your life before?
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Lol ok there buddy, no need to get pissy. Just offering and explanation and solution to your so called "problem"
At the end of the day, 1/8 will come out to 15 FPS in a 30 FPS video. Have you ever played a game at 15 FPS? Its bad. Why would a 15 FPS video magically be better. No matter what, that fact is not going to change. If a few at 1/8 is smooth at 30 FPS, then there is additional interpolation going on. If you actually have the pride to get something done yourself, figure it out, it's not hard. If you want to sit there and continue to whine in the same tone you just did, then you're more than welcome to return your note and get yourself an iPhone, noone will really care.
Quite franky, if I were to speak like you, "i don't care" if you cant get your slomo to look nice, because I know I will be able to. It's the same thing with goPro slow motion video. Have you seen what the RAW looks like? not pretty. Why do those videos look so good? interpolation and post processing. If there was an App on android that handled that, then you can run off and buy it and stop whining. But until then, you will either have to make do....or abandon it.
Just to summarize things again for you in case you actually want to put some work into it rather than complain.
1) If you want to go to 1/8, you'll need to interpolate, period, that's just how it works, learn some video basics if you need to
2) The easiest way for you to do that with the best quality is using sony vegas + twixtor
3) If you want to go deeper into it, I use premiere/after effects + twixtor.
Doing 2000 FPS shots are pretty fun but basic rules of video apply, none of this is magic.
Also seagulls? Have you never seen a duck in your life before?
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I saw one duck only. Replying in xda threads
Don't get pissy dude. I apologize if I sound too aggressive.,
At the end of the day all your suggestions are helpful and I appreciate for that.
I just meant to say that I am not happy with the outcome of the slow mo when comparing it with iPhone 5's slow mo.
But I respect the fact that you're happy and you like it. That's it.
Thanks again.
I look forward to a potential update from Samsung
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I saw one duck only. Replying in xda threads
Don't get pissy dude. I apologize if I sound too aggressive.,
At the end of the day all your suggestions are helpful and I appreciate for that.
I just meant to say that I am not happy with the outcome of the slow mo when comparing it with iPhone 5's slow mo.
But I respect the fact that you're happy and you like it. That's it.
Thanks again.
I look forward to a potential update from Samsung
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No worries, I appreciate the change in tone.
I know what you mean, and I feel the same way (on the fly interpolation would be awesome), but if HTC can do it, then i'm sure it's only a matter of time before it gets ported or somebody else writes one on the play store.
As for vegas and twixtor, i'm not allowed to post torrent links or anything like that but both are very popular and should only take 30 minutes to download and you'll be able to do a lot more cool stuff with it anyways.
I was also bitterly disappointed in the slow motion capture on my note 3
Its not that the capture or frame-rate is bad its the overall quality
recording in a 720p resolution don't mean S*%T if the bit-rate is S*%T
Every video ive tried is very distorted and pixelated should never be possible in a 720p hd clip
Samsung needs to better optimise the capture and encoding
did you take off the plastic on the lens?
hehe jk..
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did you take off the plastic on the lens?
hehe jk..
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lol
it looks ok i suppose on phone but when you attempt to watch on tv omg it looks like it was taken with a Nokia 3210 and they didnt even have cameras
While it is a shame the videos are not a tad clearer, seeing as how my htc one x's slow motion was choppy as hell when i had one, im happy enough with it, i'll only be using it for stupid things anyway, lol...like this...http://youtu.be/UAxXLZDnPrY. (next im planning to film a small air cannistor bunged on a bonfire and the resulting explosion!)
and here it is. http://youtu.be/N4ff9DsoU28
http://youtu.be/w-qnRMHdfXI
Well.... (DON'T FIGHT!)
Stop Fighting, Guys!
iPhone and Note are both 1280x720@120fps but there's another huge problem:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...ion-function-t2904242/post56013525?styleid=18
And well, another one but not equal to this thread
henihazbay said:
Hi guys
The samsung galaxy note 3's slow motion video is quite bad
I tried both 120fps at 1/4 and 120fps at 1/8.
The output is very low quality comparing to iphone 5s slow motion.
Any feedback is welcome.
Do you know a better slow motion app?
Do you have a recommended settings?
Thanks
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I know what:
See this
Slow motion is a gimmick. It's just a normal video slowed down, there is no 120fps capture going on.