[Q] 16gb vs. 32gb - Nexus 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I don't plan to watch a lot of movies. Mainly the web.
How much space do movies take up?

I had a similar thread in the questions forum...should be some help in deciding but sounds like if you're just using it for movies the 16GB will be the right call...also a short discussion on OTG cable + storage options in my thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2015074

brycej said:
I don't plan to watch a lot of movies. Mainly the web.
How much space do movies take up?
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You'll be fine with 16 gigs, even if you end up watching a lotta movies. 13GB is usable I believe, if apps and stuff take another 3, 10 gigs is still quite good for a couple of preloaded films. If not, you can always connect a cheap storage via USB OTG and stream multimedia via Nexus Media Importer. One way or another, asking for a full $100 extra for a NANDFLASH memory that costs Google about $6 is no way justified. I'll get the 16GB if and when it gets back into stock.

BoneXDA said:
One way or another, asking for a full $100 extra for a NANDFLASH memory that costs Google about $6 is no way justified.
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Agreed! What a ripoff

BoneXDA said:
.I'll get the 16GB if and when it gets back into stock.
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The 16GB is in stock right now.

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SDHC

I'm looking at getting a 32gb micro sdhc card for the phone.
First, any suggestions on where to buy and brand?
Second, is the phone capable of handling ask classes and taking advantage of the speed of higher classes?
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Why do you need a 32GB Micro SDHC card? The phone already has 16GB built in (2GB for apps and 14GB for storage). But if it is something that you really want then, I believe Verizon is selling a 32GB SD card for $99.99.
http://www.sandisk.com/products/mobile-memory-products/sandisk-microsdhc -- I believe $99.99 was only for Droid X buyers.. i HIGHLY SUGGEST that this is not recommended because the price gap between a 8GB SD Card and 16GB SD Card is not worth it especially with the built in 14GB.. why do you need so much?
You can get a 32gb class 2 on amazon for around $130 here
they have a 32 class 4 for $77 here
I would suggest a 16 gb card for much less.
You can get a 16gb class 6 for $72 here
You can get a 16 class 4 for $35 here
and a class 2 for $23 here
Enjoy!
When I got the phone I replaced the 2 gig sd card came with the phone with my old 8 gig sandisk class 2 card that I was using with my G1. I realized immediately that phone slowed down on sd access so whatever you get make sure you get at least class 6.
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runal said:
When I got the phone I replaced the 2 gig sd card came with the phone with my old 8 gig sandisk class 2 card that I was using with my G1. I realized immediately that phone slowed down on sd access so whatever you get make sure you get at least class 6.
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Same except I moved the Avatar movie files to the previous SD Card and formatted it to be 100% FAT32. 8GB Class 6 card
@PathogenX: You forgot to include the Shipping & Handling and possibly taxes (varies between different states).
Transcend 8GB Class 6: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820208453 -- Good offer; been using this for a LONG time on my G1 and now Vibrant. And 32GB Class 6 (if there are even such thing) isn't even worth it. 32GB in general wouldn't be worth it considering the price gaps as I mentioned previously. Newegg for most states doesn't take sales tax so thats also a plus. Browse around Newegg if you're looking for a 16GB, they usually have the lowest prices for SD cards.
I don't think you should be talked out of getting 32GB, if you want it.
I'm saving the $100 b/c I don't have an immediate need. I have the above Transcend 8GB C6 card, and it's great: 8mb write, 11mb read.
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The reason why I want 32gb is that I want to carry my entire music collection with me, which is well north of 20 already and I wasn't room to grow plus store apps, videos, pics, etc.
Problem is it is hard to find 32gb cards out there. I've seen a few on amazon, but class 4 seems the best available. I was wondering if that's good enough or if I should keep looking.
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DLarva said:
The reason why I want 32gb is that I want to carry my entire music collection with me, which is well north of 20 already and I wasn't room to grow plus store apps, videos, pics, etc.
Problem is it is hard to find 32gb cards out there. I've seen a few on amazon, but class 4 seems the best available. I was wondering if that's good enough or if I should keep looking.
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Apps have its own dedicated storage (2GB) out of the 16GB so really you have..
14GB + Whatever the size of your SD card will be. Keep in mind that the "classes" play a huge role. I mean honestly.. is all of that stuff necessary to have on your phone?
You can have the pictures on your Facebook, Photobucket, etc.. basically cloud and they don't take a lot of space at all (unless they're taken with a $2000 camera and non-compressed). Videos, you would only keep what you want to watch and not always just leave it there.
I still love my Vibrant but I rather have a dedicated music player for my music, and thats what my iPod is for.
DLarva said:
The reason why I want 32gb is that I want to carry my entire music collection with me, which is well north of 20 already and I wasn't room to grow plus store apps, videos, pics, etc.
Problem is it is hard to find 32gb cards out there. I've seen a few on amazon, but class 4 seems the best available. I was wondering if that's good enough or if I should keep looking.
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I hear ya. I formatted my 16 gig card from my now retired HD2 so I could test the music player before buying a bigger card. So far, I'm impressed. I actually prefer the mp3 player on the Vibrant to my ipod.
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I would simply prefer to have only one device and not carry more. Everyone does things differently, to each there own.
Apparently though, finding a 32gb card of class 6 or above is near impossible. So it seems I either need to wait a while or come up with some scheme to get by with less.
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Verizon sells a 32Gb for $99 if you dont trust Amazon's sellers or off brands
http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/store/accessory?action=accessoryDetails&archetypeId=12214
Why is everyone trying to talk him out of getting a 32gig card? Its his money let him spend it how he wants too.
I haven't seen any class 6 32gig cards, 32gig cards are still fairly new. I have a class 2 16gig card from my HD2 and I use it just for music and movies. It work fine takes a sec or two too load the music. I think a class 4 would be ok if you are just using it for music.
speoples20 said:
Why is everyone trying to talk him out of getting a 32gig card? Its his money let him spend it how he wants too.
I haven't seen any class 6 32gig cards, 32gig cards are still fairly new. I have a class 2 16gig card from my HD2 and I use it just for music and movies. It work fine takes a sec or two too load the music. I think a class 4 would be ok if you are just using it for music.
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Because we're "trying" to help him out to make him spend his money on things that could be more beneficial to him?
If somebody asked for advice on a new computer for gaming and he specifically wanted a laptop for highend competitive gaming, would your logic of "oh its his money, let him spend it the way he wants to" work? No. people would try to talk him out of it because thinking rationally, it doesn't make much sense. Is there a use of 32GB? yes. If he got a 16GB card that would be 30GB already. If he got a 32GB card he wouldn't have to be worried too much about always replacing things on his SD card It has its pros and cons, but the cons definitely outweigh the pros. Because I know for me when I watch a movie, after I'm finished.. I'm never going to watch it again... at least not for a while and thats just not worth keeping it on your SD card or phone's internal.
Throughout time, SD cards will be cheaper and cheaper because of data inflation anyway.
zephiK said:
Because we're "trying" to help him out to make him spend his money on things that could be more beneficial to him?
If somebody asked for advice on a new computer for gaming and he specifically wanted a laptop for highend competitive gaming, would your logic of "oh its his money, let him spend it the way he wants to" work? No. people would try to talk him out of it because thinking rationally, it doesn't make much sense. Is there a use of 32GB? yes. If he got a 16GB card that would be 30GB already. If he got a 32GB card he wouldn't have to be worried too much about always replacing things on his SD card It has its pros and cons, but the cons definitely outweigh the pros. Because I know for me when I watch a movie, after I'm finished.. I'm never going to watch it again... at least not for a while and thats just not worth keeping it on your SD card or phone's internal.
Throughout time, SD cards will be cheaper and cheaper because of data inflation anyway.
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A 32gig card is not going to ruin his phone. A 32gig card serves a purpose for him and is cheaper and easier than getting a second mp3 player.
speoples20 said:
A 32gig card is not going to ruin his phone. A 32gig card serves a purpose for him and is cheaper and easier than getting a second mp3 player.
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I never said a 32GB card was going to ruin his phone at all. You know that there are other ways of getting music played on the Vibrant right? There are MANY alternatives such as Pandora, Slacker, Last FM, Cloud Sync, and more.
All which take a lot less room than storing a bunch of songs on your SD card.
Not to mention but with that much music on a SD card. Android lacks a syncing program to sync music and keep everything organized. I know HTC is working on that but it will most likely be limited to HTC devices only.
And really.. if you're going to have 32GB of music, you're not ever going to listen to every single one of them. It's not necessary. And I rather watch movies on a bigger screen than the Vibrant, if im on a road trip or something of that sort.. it'll make sense but if im not, I'm not going to leave movies on my phone. If i do, I'll watch and get rid of it and put it back on when I plan to watch it.
Be glad that Samsung even provided the 16GB (14GB space; 2GB apps) otherwise you wouldn't even have that to work with. I know you'll probably bring up the area on battery usage with the phone using all that power on 3G and streaming and whatever. But every phone has its limitations, a phone is not a computer.. it cannot do everything that you want it to do.
Also it doesn't matter if its "cheaper" because in the end, he's paying more for his money. I just don't understand why you don't want people pointing out the other options that are available for him aside from his desired method.
You should just get the 32 gb card. I got mine from verizon for 100 bucks put all my music on it, ditched the ipod and never looked back.
zephiK said:
There are MANY alternatives such as Pandora, Slacker, Last FM, Cloud Sync, and more.
All which take a lot less room than storing a bunch of songs on your SD card.
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What is your point? The OP wants HIS music. And maybe the OP will be somewhere he can't stream over the network, it happens, you know.
And really.. if you're going to have 32GB of music, you're not ever going to listen to every single one of them. It's not necessary. And I rather watch movies on a bigger screen than the Vibrant, if im on a road trip or something of that sort.. it'll make sense but if im not, I'm not going to leave movies on my phone. If i do, I'll watch and get rid of it and put it back on when I plan to watch it.
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Finally you start to get real when you say "I". What you say is about YOU. Not about the OP. But your needs are not his. I am with the OP, I want to carry all my music collection with me, and I'm not going to explain why to someone who can't even tell the difference between their own wants and someone else's. And my collection fits on a 160GB iPod, but not on an 80GB so I have to pick and choose when I use a smaller device. I want to know about 64GB cards, and 128GB cards, eventually.
Also it doesn't matter if its "cheaper" because in the end, he's paying more for his money. I just don't understand why you don't want people pointing out the other options that are available for him aside from his desired method.
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He didn't ASK for your opinion on alternatives, he said he wants to carry HIS music collection with him. Go ahead on point out alternatives, but stop acting like your viewpoint is the only valid one--it isn't. And if you want to start a new topic on how anyone who disagrees with you is wrong, go ahead, but stop polluting this topic.
As for my advice for the OP, go for the 32GB card, get the faster one.
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He didn't ASK for your opinion on alternatives, he said he wants to carry HIS music collection with him. Go ahead on point out alternatives, but stop acting like your viewpoint is the only valid one--it isn't. And if you want to start a new topic on how anyone who disagrees with you is wrong, go ahead, but stop polluting this topic.
As for my advice for the OP, go for the 32GB card, get the faster one.
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First off, I never said or acted upon that my viewpoint is the only "valid" way. There is no such thing because there are many ways of doing the same thing.
It's not justifiable to make a NEW thread continuing from a previous thread, thats what responses are for. Everyone is entitled to their own opinions and debates/arguments will rise upon that. I'm not going to be ridiculed by you because I'm simply stating what I feel about 32GB sd cards.
If you don't like arguments then maybe you shouldn't read forums because that is exactly what forums are all about its a place where people join together and state their opinions about things.
And what is this so-called "opinion on alternatives" since when did alternatives become opinions? All I simply did "think out the box" and stated my personal experiences using them. Sorry if this offends you!
And your advice doesn't even fall into what the OP is asking for. The OP is asking for brand names and places to get 32GB cards... not whether if I should get a 32GB SD card. And I pretty much gave him the answer to what he was looking for in the second post with Blueman101 providing a direct link to what I was talking about.
Oh and before you try to say I'm contradicting myself, I'm a person that likes stating the other options that he is able to choose from.
I'm not deciding on what he should do and what he shouldn't do... thats for him to decide.
Edit: Just noticed that you said "HIS" music. Have you even tried Last FM, Pandora, or Slacker? they're pretty much online radio stations that YOU can customize and they have a lot of the music that you have already. Based on what you listen to, they contribute to your radio and you can expand your music choices. It plays songs that it might think you will like, it is absolutely fantastic technology. If all you want to do is listen to YOUR MUSIC ONLY, then i seriously doubt that because people who listen to music will always want more and more music to listen to.
Not to mention, you have ABSOLUTE full control over it. If you don't like it, you can press skip or I think theres a button in there that says to never play this again (thumbs up and thumbs down).. after a while, the system will start to know what kind of music you're into and overall its just a good experience.
P.S. welcome to xda PhilSlater
Also-- this thread isn't all about the OP, there could be other people on the forum who found the topic name "SDHC" to be interesting and looking to make a purchase on a SDHC card and I'm pretty positive that they appreciated the other choices on SDHC cards.
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Because we're "trying" to help him out to make him spend his money on things that could be more beneficial to him?
If somebody asked for advice on a new computer for gaming and he specifically wanted a laptop for highend competitive gaming, would your logic of "oh its his money, let him spend it the way he wants to" work? No. people would try to talk him out of it because thinking rationally, it doesn't make much sense. Is there a use of 32GB? yes. If he got a 16GB card that would be 30GB already. If he got a 32GB card he wouldn't have to be worried too much about always replacing things on his SD card It has its pros and cons, but the cons definitely outweigh the pros. Because I know for me when I watch a movie, after I'm finished.. I'm never going to watch it again... at least not for a while and thats just not worth keeping it on your SD card or phone's internal.
Throughout time, SD cards will be cheaper and cheaper because of data inflation anyway.
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I have a high end competitive gaming laptop, or was a year ago. Probably the best money I have ever invested. Bad analogy.
I could go in to a whole debate to prove my point about laptops>computers, but that would be a different topic and forum haha. So I won't reply to any more posts about it on this topic/forum.
But, would I be okay with a 8 gig class 6? I don't really want to use this phone as an mp3 player or media hub, just to play games(ps1, n64, gba) and be a smart phone.
Mark271 said:
I have a high end competitive gaming laptop, or was a year ago. Probably the best money I have ever invested. Bad analogy.
I could go in to a whole debate to prove my point about laptops>computers, but that would be a different topic and forum haha. So I won't reply to any more posts about it on this topic/forum.
But, would I be okay with a 8 gig class 6? I don't really want to use this phone as an mp3 player or media hub, just to play games(ps1, n64, gba) and be a smart phone.
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It was originally, "where can i download European ROMs for my vibrant" but I changed that. But yeah you're right, highend gaming laptops are there but most competitive players (tournament play, CEVO, WCG, etc) don't play on laptops for gaming. Kind of like competitive players (professionals) using wireless mouses.
Just that you can get a lot more out of your system by just building a computer with parts rather than waiting for a manufacturer to build your system and you're unable to do any upgrades by yourself.
@But, would I be okay with a 8 gig class 6? I don't really want to use this phone as an mp3 player or media hub, just to play games(ps1, n64, gba) and be a smart phone.
And yeah.. it would be fine, ROMs for PS1 are about ~700MB per disc. The transcend one that I posted is a pretty good price, Class 6 as well. If you're going to store a lot of ROMs, I'd go with a 16GB or just buy multiple 8GB sd cards. You could also store them on the Samsung's 16GB that pre-exists (14GB since 2GB are used towards apps)

The Dilemma: 32GB vs 16GB

I just got my second 32GB TF (first one stopped responding to touch, even after hard reset) and this one has dust under the screen and light bleed...(I was a naysayer..but the problems are REAL and not just some over exaggeration).
Anyway...I'm going to return the 32GB to BHPhoto...and managed to order a 16GB from Amazon today.
I still have some time to cancel and was debating...is the 16GB the right call? I've had the 32GB until now (since it was easier to get) and it was kind of nice knowing I had that space if I ever needed it...but do I NEED it? I realize the 16GB is expandable due to MicroSD, but onboard is always better.
How do you guys feel about the storage space?
I honestly think 16gb is a better choice as you're very unlikely to install so many apps to eat up that much space.. and you can the $100 ultra to get a decent 32gb micro sd card!
I do wish you would make up your mind with your 'stories', because over on another thread you had already bought a tab 10'1 in NY and there's no mention of also ordering another AT from Amazon.
I wish people would just piss-off and stop blatantly inventing ways to post BS stories on this forum about this freaking awesome device
checkbox111 said:
I do wish you would make up your mind with your 'stories', because over on another thread you had already bought a tab 10'1 in NY and there's no mention of also ordering another AT from Amazon.
I wish people would just piss-off and stop blatantly inventing ways to post BS stories on this forum about this freaking awesome device
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Please provide a link to where I said I bought a tab 10.1. Also, please make sure you get your facts right before you attack someone.
I might have commented on that thread, but I did NOT say I purchased one.
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I can totally see the appeal.
However, I want that keyboard with the extended battery and I also want an SD card slot. Say what you want, but having the option to expand memory is pretty awesome.
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now don't you feel silly?....
newtybar said:
I realize the 16GB is expandable due to MicroSD, but onboard is always better.
How do you guys feel about the storage space?
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That's not true.
If you ever want to move files from device to device all you have to do is pop out the card on one device and into another.
I would hate to wait for 16GB worth of data to be moved through USB.
The biggest files are media files so if you plan on keeping a lot of movies on your tablet at one time, then the bigger storage is probably best.
Though, the way we are headed, everything will be streamed/downloaded through cloud anyway.
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I honestly think 16gb is a better choice as you're very unlikely to install so many apps to eat up that much space.. and you can the $100 ultra to get a decent 32gb micro sd card!
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Exactly my way of thinking as well. Go for the lower end and make it even BETTER than the higher ended one by getting a 32GB CLASS 6 MSD Card.
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I just got my second 32GB TF (first one stopped responding to touch, even after hard reset) and this one has dust under the screen and light bleed...(I was a naysayer..but the problems are REAL and not just some over exaggeration).
Anyway...I'm going to return the 32GB to BHPhoto...and managed to order a 16GB from Amazon today.
I still have some time to cancel and was debating...is the 16GB the right call? I've had the 32GB until now (since it was easier to get) and it was kind of nice knowing I had that space if I ever needed it...but do I NEED it? I realize the 16GB is expandable due to MicroSD, but onboard is always better.
How do you guys feel about the storage space?
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I personally bought the 16 GB because the 32 GB was sold out @ BB. I figured that I could always expand my memory via micro SD.
to me it doesn't make a ton of sense to add more onboard memory when expansion is possible, cheaper and more convenient
16GB unless you really have tons of music/movies that you want to carry with you all the time. I already have a 32gb iPhone4 so I have no reason to store my music on the tablet. 16GB more than enough.
I personally went for the 32. Unlike a phone, the microSD and SD cards are accessible. I plan to use those like floppy drives of today. It's much faster to copy media directly to the cards from a computer and stick them into the pad than to try to sync or copy them via the pad. At one point, I was thinking that I can just upgrade. However, there will always be some apps that cannot be moved to the microSD.
Also, Amazon currently has the 32 for $499 and 16 for $449. $50 difference for onboard 16 is a no brainer.
I just bought a 16gb with the same mentality as some of the previous replies. I went with the cheaper alternative knowing that I could easily upgrade the storage with a Micro SD card if I started running out of space.
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Exactly my way of thinking as well. Go for the lower end and make it even BETTER than the higher ended one by getting a 32GB CLASS 6 MSD Card.
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Does not follow that it is better. 48 may be more then 32 but it is less then 64. You don't think that people that buy the 32 gb model are then going to say "Aw I don't need a 32 gb Micro SD card, I have more then enough internal already". No they are going to say "I wish they had 64gb Micro SD card I can put in this thing".
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Please provide a link to where I said I bought a tab 10.1. Also, please make sure you get your facts right before you attack someone.
I might have commented on that thread, but I did NOT say I purchased one.
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edit: FYI here's what I said in that post
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I see you've edited your post how errrrr predictable! but then i see you edit a lot of your posts
Given Google music, and rentable movies that either stream or delete themselves after you watch them, I think Steve Jobs is on the right track. I have WiFi 95% of the places I go. 100% of the time on work days. With the Google music beta I have no music ON my tablet, but access to my entire collection with a network connection. The 16gb tablet has room for several movies, but once netflix and android market movies are fully functional I don't see the point of even bothering to rip a DVD into a format that will play. My conclusion? 16gb saved me $50 or more over the 32gb version. That pays for netflix for 6 months or so.
Got the 16gb, and got a 32GB microsd at 90$ (patriot 32gb class 10) looks great
If you really (x10) need memory, go for the 32GB model, otherwise, the 16GB model will do just fine.
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I plan to use those like floppy drives of today.
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Ha, what?! Are you from the past?
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I see you've edited your post how errrrr predictable! but then i see you edit a lot of your posts
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I edited it to include the link to what was referred to, to make it easier for you.
I even included the reason I edited it. If you look at the post I linked to...it was NOT edited.
Let's think about what you accused me of (starting a post about getting a tab 10.1). Was that me? No.
I decided to keep the 16gb from Amazon. External storage is all I need. Do any of the current folio cases have pockets to hold micro SD cards?
Problem with going low and using cards is it's a pain to maintain a desktop like atmosphere if I have some on board and some on a card and swap cards for something else and need access to what was on the other card. I have a mydocs folder under mysugarsync folder and sync it with my home computer. Considering a majority of my files are media/Office based, and mt TF replaced my laptop, I have a more complete setup without having to swap cards. I also had a bunch of gift cards and paid about $300 for the 32gb after returning the 16gb one so it wasn't a tough choice. I like card access, but swapping cards more often is not really my idea of efficient. Plus the slots are always open for use. Still wish the tablet had full size SD. Hate the trend towards micro on devices that have no justification for it. Considering the TF is wider than any other 10.1 with nothing else really under the hood in comparison, a full size SD should have been a no brainer.
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8gb or 16gb

Please share your thoughts. looking to get.
For $50 more its a no brainer, besides you're only getting a little over 5gb with an 8gb device.
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I got the 16 GB version for the extra few bucks it was definitely worth it.
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For $50 more its a no brainer, besides you're only getting a little over 5gb with an 8gb device.
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I agree 100%.
I bought the 16gb for that very reason.
It almost doesn't make sense to get an 8gb.
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orateam said:
Please share your thoughts. looking to get.
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It dependents on how you want to use the Nexus 7.
Before I bought the Nexus 7, I checked out my usage on my 16GB Asus T101.
It was less than 4 GB.
If you're just viewing content, doing email, reading a couple of books you can probably get away with the 8GB model.
The reason why I say this is that if you're just needing this as a traveling companion, the 8GB will probably be okay.
If you think you might want to carry around more to entertain you, then you should probably select the 16 GB model.
I've had my Nexus 7 for a little over 2 weeks and I still have over 8.01 GB free.
Here's an example of what's on it now: apps, 4.08 GB, pictures, videos, 12.1 MB, audio , 20 KB, downloads: 259 MB.
Perhaps others will tell what their storage looks like.
The extra storage is comforting so if you think you might use it, go for the 16 GB.
16GB all the way. While you can always access your media from the cloud (assuming a wifi connection) if you want to carry any media with you, not to mention an app or two you will be sorry with only 8GB to work with.
after the formatted volume and operating is took into consideration it would be not enough to have 8gb, i got the 16gb and its great
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For $50 more its a no brainer, besides you're only getting a little over 5gb with an 8gb device.
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It dependents on how you want to use the Nexus 7.
Before I bought the Nexus 7, I checked out my usage on my 16GB Asus T101.
It was less than 4 GB.
If you're just viewing content, doing email, reading a couple of books you can probably get away with the 8GB model.
The reason why I say this is that if you're just needing this as a traveling companion, the 8GB will probably be okay.
If you think you might want to carry around more to entertain you, then you should probably select the 16 GB model.
I've had my Nexus 7 for a little over 2 weeks and I still have over 8.01 GB free.
Here's an example of what's on it now: apps, 4.08 GB, pictures, videos, 12.1 MB, audio , 20 KB, downloads: 259 MB.
Perhaps others will tell what their storage looks like.
The extra storage is comforting so if you think you might use it, go for the 16 GB.
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While I agree that 8gb would probably be ok for Mom and Aunt Nancy, anyone on these forums should opt for the 16gb. Even if you don't "normally" use that much storage, there will always be that one time. Plus resale value on these will be crappy for the 8gb. Anyone rebuying these will want the 16gb.
In this day and age, 8gb devices are a joke. I know they keep cost to a minimum but the actual price difference between a 8gb and 16gb chip is nil. The bare minimum should be 16gb and even those should be fading out soon. Honestly tablets should be 16gb/32gb/64gb.
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For $50 more its a no brainer, besides you're only getting a little over 5gb with an 8gb device.
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Google and Asus must be loving this thinking too, you could buy a 16gb micro sd for $10, and they get to charge 50 for just an extra 8gb.
Not saying it's the wrong decision to get the 16gb, it's just annoying
if youre an 'on the cloud' guy.... go for 8gb....
if you like to store everything for offline use... go for 16gb..
i have a 16gb... and am always connected to wifi.... everything on google's cloud, got 13.24GB free space
your choice really... but I don't think i would have regretted getting the 8gb one
If you flash ROMs a lot definitely get the 16gb because I do and I got the 8gb and I think that it's not enough because I need to plug it in the PC to put ROMs/backups/etc very often (with 8gb you only get about 5.xxgb of usable storage) ... So if I bought one I'd buy the 16gb, but I got mine as a gift so I am not complaining
Also keep in mind that 8gB is like ~6+GB available space while 16gb is about 13+GB available
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While I agree that 8gb would probably be ok for Mom and Aunt Nancy, anyone on these forums should opt for the 16gb. Even if you don't "normally" use that much storage, there will always be that one time. Plus resale value on these will be crappy for the 8gb. Anyone rebuying these will want the 16gb.
In this day and age, 8gb devices are a joke. I know they keep cost to a minimum but the actual price difference between a 8gb and 16gb chip is nil. The bare minimum should be 16gb and even those should be fading out soon. Honestly tablets should be 16gb/32gb/64gb.
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Really are comments like your Mom and Aunt Nancy really necessary...sounds a bit irrelevant unless you're trying to make this a sexist issue.
Thanks everyone for their replies. I ended up taking Vbacon's advice of looking at my Asus TF101's usage.
After many ROMS, videos, and even the entire MAME ROM collection, i still never passed 4 gb out of 32gb on it. So i bought the 8GB nexus.
I used the device mostly as a browser/emailer. I used to stream music from it, but now use my Droid Razr for that. When i do watch video, it's streaming from HBOgo, Netflix, amazon Instant video or brighthouse. So the reality was, i just wasn't storing much.
Many on the replies said they bought the 16gb and that their decision was absolutely worth it. what was it that made it absolutely worthwhile? Is it just peace of mind or actual use?
16GB is my recommendation,
Besides of the available space there are benchmarks showing that I/O performance is better than in the 8GB version because of the controller used. and 50 more bucks is not that much for extra space that you may need some day
I purchased the 16gb so that I wouldn't have to deal with Out Of Space errors that plagued my HTC Droid Incredible. I play Zen Pinball, Pinball Arcade, & use tTorrent Pro. The pinball games can have tables that run into 100mb & up. Pinball Arcade has almost 10 tables available for purchase. Zen Pinball has 8 tables available. Storage space becomes an issue quickly.
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Thanks everyone for their replies. I ended up taking Vbacon's advice of looking at my Asus TF101's usage.
After many ROMS, videos, and even the entire MAME ROM collection, i still never passed 4 gb out of 32gb on it. So i bought the 8GB nexus.
I used the device mostly as a browser/emailer. I used to stream music from it, but now use my Droid Razr for that. When i do watch video, it's streaming from HBOgo, Netflix, amazon Instant video or brighthouse. So the reality was, i just wasn't storing much.
Many on the replies said they bought the 16gb and that their decision was absolutely worth it. what was it that made it absolutely worthwhile? Is it just peace of mind or actual use?
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I think you were more so looking for a reason to buy the 8gb model lol. Just remember 6+ gbs isn't a lot of space. Either way you got a fantastic device but the 16gb model is what I would have sprung for ...
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i was open-minded. I just didn't see any logical reason to buy bigger except for the last post that spoke about I/O performance.
16 GB because the system itself takes memory, so a 8GB device, would have like 5GB available empty :S

Nexus 4 8GB - Too less?

I'm thinking of ordering a Nexus 4 but I'm confused about which version to order. Would 8GB actually be too less? How much actual storage space will I have, considering the space the OS and other required components will take?
I'm not planning to store any movies in my phone, nor store too many HD videos. Just some HD games and 4GB or so of music.
Any suggestions? Will I regret taking the 8gig version?
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I'm thinking of ordering a Nexus 4 but I'm confused about which version to order. Would 8GB actually be too less? How much actual storage space will I have, considering the space the OS and other required components will take?
I'm not planning to store any movies in my phone, nor store too many HD videos. Just some HD games and 4GB or so of music.
Any suggestions? Will I regret taking the 8gig version?
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As they say when purchasing a TV, go one size bigger. But honestly for $50 more you get twice the storage. As apps update, some of them will also increase (maybe dramatically) in size. You want to make sure that you will have space for your favorite apps and the media you want on it.
You don't want to go down the line in the future and say to yourself "Why didn't I buy the 16GB!?!"
Those are just my thoughts on it. I bought my 16GB with that in mind.
I make 8gb work. Could I use 8gb more? Yes. I don't have very many apps on my phone (23 on Google Play), roughly 4gb of music playlists saved for offline and I have a gigabyte left of storage to download more apps or keep some more music. I do everything online and that is how I make it work. I also don't play games on my phone. It also helps that I'm rooted and probably have stripped 500mb of system apps from the stock ROM. I was on a tight budget and I'm happy with my phone, although at times 8gb cuts it very close after formatted memory, haha.
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"Some HD games and 4GB of music", you would definately need the 16GB model. its always nice to have some free space just inacse
Yes there's nothing wrong with future proofing yourself if you can afford it as this phone has no SD card slot
I think the general rule is that if you ever doubt yourself in this situation, it's a safer route to stick with 16gb.
I have an 8gb and I was worried about the storage space. I'm amazed at how much you can save with 8gb. You have to learn to not save a bazillion nandroid backups and save as much as you can on some type of cloud or something. I'm using box.com and have hundreds of pics and files saved there. I've learned to just not save useless things. With that said if you play games a lot get the 16gb it can't hurt. BTW I ordered a 16gb on play store on the 13th which I've still yet to receive so I got a 8gb from craigslist for a price I couldn't away. I'm now planning on selling the 16 to a buddy of mine when I get it. I'm perfectly happy with my 8gb I am fully rooted and have a custom recovery which happens to take most of my used space and I still have Lil over 3GB.
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Too little. As in, "The 8 GB version has less space, having fewer GB than the 16 GB version, but is it too little?"
GRAMMAR NAZI AWAAAAAY!
I bought a 16GB because that's the smallest tier storage I've ever bought in all my phones, but I rarely use more than a couple gigabytes. The main reason is to not worry about storage at all vs managing your storage sometimes (like deleting Google Music Cache, disabling YouTube preloading etc.)
Besides the resale value, there is honestly no use for me with the 16GB.
It all comes to how you plan to use the device and consume content. I used to have 4GB of music, but honestly only listened to maybe 100MB worth at any given time... so once I truncated that, I've never had space issues with 8GB devices unless a long trip and I wanted some movies (but now I have a tablet for that).

Difference in performance between 16 & 32GB?

So I pre-ordered a 32GB white version from Best Buy. They didn't have it on the 10th so I went ahead and bought a black one to tide me over. But I'm getting impatient for my white one.
Still not in at Best Buy. I'm told that they won't be in next week either.
But they have a white 16GB. I'm seriously considering buying it along with a 64 GB micro SD card and just call it a day.
My question is, is there any performance difference between the 2 storage sizes? Or does it just affect strict storage space.
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Han Solo
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So I pre-ordered a 32GB white version from Best Buy. They didn't have it on the 10th so I went ahead and bought a black one to tide me over. But I'm getting impatient for my white one.
Still not in at Best Buy. I'm told that they won't be in next week either.
But they have a white 16GB. I'm seriously considering buying it along with a 64 GB micro SD card and just call it a day.
My question is, is there any performance difference between the 2 storage sizes? Or does it just affect strict storage space.
Thanks,
Han Solo
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There isn't any performance differences between the two. Unlike the nand that is used in SSDs, the storage used doesn't necessarily degrade when getting filling it up.
Just storage space. I'd hang for the 32 if you can. Don't do something rash just to have it today when in a few months you'll probably wish for more space.
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Han... I agree with Wing on this one... I have a 32 gig note and I'm utilizing 10 gigs of it as of today. By the way, none of which are pictures or video, or for that matter too many games. I have a 64 gig sd card that I put my movies and pictures on.
So again, I'm utilizing 10 gigs out of the 32 gig storage that I have, that's just me, but if I were you I would wait for the 32 gig version
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I would just have them ship it to the store and have them call you when it gets there. That way you don't have to pay for shipping, and can take advantage of the Best Buy return policies. There wouldn't be a performance issue based on the storage size. You've waited this long for the tablet to come out, what is a couple more days to wait for shipping? Play some GTA or watch some football till then. Life doesn't seize to exist because of a tablet.
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Just storage space. I'd hang for the 32 if you can. Don't do something rash just to have it today when in a few months you'll probably wish for more space.
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Why? The 16 will be a lot cheaper and you can just throw a 64GB card in it for less than the price difference. Unless you anticipate NEEDING 96GB of storage instead of 80 somehow, lower built-in storage + external card is always the best option.
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Why? The 16 will be a lot cheaper and you can just throw a 64GB card in it for less than the price difference. Unless you anticipate NEEDING 96GB of storage instead of 80 somehow, lower built-in storage + external card is always the best option.
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I disagree. It's $50 difference between 16 and 32 GB. You can break it down like this; If you keep and use the tablet for 24 months, it's an extra $2 a month!
I don't like moving apps to external memory, since not all apps support this feature. When I had my 16GB S4, I was constantly removing apps to make way for new apps. I hated that..
Also, the note does not have 16GB available to the user; it's more like 10GB.
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I disagree. It's $50 difference between 16 and 32 GB. You can break it down like this; If you keep and use the tablet for 24 months, it's an extra $2 a month!
I don't like moving apps to external memory, since not all apps support this feature. When I had my 16GB S4, I was constantly removing apps to make way for new apps. I hated that..
Also, the note does not have 16GB available to the user; it's more like 10GB.
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So store all your files and whatnot on the external. You'd have to have hundreds and hundreds of apps to use up the full internal just on those.
Fifty bucks. You can get a 64gb micro SD card shipped for that. Keep all your media on there, apps on the internal, and for the same price you have 2.5x the storage.
The only way I ever filled up my s3 was downloading all my rdio music onto it. How could you possibly be filling up the device from apps? I've never in my Android life had so many apps I needed to move them to the card.
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So store all your files and whatnot on the external. You'd have to have hundreds and hundreds of apps to use up the full internal just on those.
Fifty bucks. You can get a 64gb micro SD card shipped for that. Keep all your media on there, apps on the internal, and for the same price you have 2.5x the storage.
The only way I ever filled up my s3 was downloading all my rdio music onto it. How could you possibly be filling up the device from apps? I've never in my Android life had so many apps I needed to move them to the card.
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You assume folks that buy the 32GB note, won't spring for a 64GB card as well?!
Case in point, GTA Vice City is 1.4GB.
Anyways, if 16GB works for you, then cool.:good:
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You assume folks that buy the 32GB note, won't spring for a 64GB card as well?!
Case in point, GTA Vice City is 1.4GB.
Anyways, if 16GB works for you, then cool.:good:
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Not at all. I'm saying that MOST people have no need for 96GB of storage and could save money by getting the 16 and a card of whatever size they'd like. It bugs me when people are stubbornly insisting that they NEED to spend more money on something when they don't.
Okay, so you install Vice City and five more copies of it, and that still leaves you with about a gig and a half to do whatever with. Put all your music/movies/downloads/documents/whatever on the external and bingo bango you saved money AND had more space.
What SHOULD happen in Android is that they embrace external storage and make it easier to put stuff on the external card. What happens INSTEAD is we end up reinforcing the "tiered storage size" model like Apple and next thing you know more tablets and phones have NO external storage, and it costs $100 extra just to go up 16GB in size.
I'm not arguing this just because it's the internet and I like being contrary, it's because I really do have a reason to be promoting people getting the smaller model plus microSD.
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Not at all. I'm saying that MOST people have no need for 96GB of storage and could save money by getting the 16 and a card of whatever size they'd like. It bugs me when people are stubbornly insisting that they NEED to spend more money on something when they don't.
Okay, so you install Vice City and five more copies of it, and that still leaves you with about a gig and a half to do whatever with. Put all your music/movies/downloads/documents/whatever on the external and bingo bango you saved money AND had more space.
What SHOULD happen in Android is that they embrace external storage and make it easier to put stuff on the external card. What happens INSTEAD is we end up reinforcing the "tiered storage size" model like Apple and next thing you know more tablets and phones have NO external storage, and it costs $100 extra just to go up 16GB in size.
I'm not arguing this just because it's the internet and I like being contrary, it's because I really do have a reason to be promoting people getting the smaller model plus microSD.
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dude, you're posting on XDA, not android4newbs. Most of us are power users who want and use more space.
If 16GB works for you, then cool. If someone wants to spend $50 for another 16GB, I don't see how that would bug you.
I'm the biggest fan of removable storage - That's why I choose Samsung, but preaching to all that MOST don't need more than 16GB because YOU don't use more than 16GB is just silly.
Also $50 is relative. To me $550 vs. $600 is not that big of a deal.
Cheers!:good:
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dude, you're posting on XDA, not android4newbs. Most of us are power users who want and use more space.
If 16GB works for you, then cool. If someone wants to spend $50 for another 16GB, I don't see how that would bug you.
I'm the biggest fan of removable storage - That's why I choose Samsung, but preaching to all that MOST don't need more than 16GB because YOU don't use more than 16GB is just silly.
Also $50 is relative. To me $550 vs. $600 is not that big of a deal.
Cheers!:good:
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You're 100% right. I was speaking more toward someone who thinks 16GB isn't enough and wants 32. If you want 32, save a couple bucks and get the card. If you need ALL the space, then yeah get the 32 and a 64 card, but unless you need 96GB why spend the extra money?
$50 is definitely relative. I mean I have the Note instead of the Nexus because even though I'm not a massive stylus user I like having the option and the extra cost wasn't enough for me to mind, but I stuck with the 16 because I -reaaaaaally- feel like for 95% of users it's a smarter buy to get less included storage and add a card.
There's an added benefit, too. Let's say I buy a 16GB model and a 64GB card. Then in a year a new model comes out. I can once AGAIN get the 16GB model and stick my card in there. So not only did I save $50+ on the current one, but I saved it on the next one. It's savings that add up, and afford me the opportunity to get new devices! :laugh:
But again, it's about getting what YOU need. I'm sure some of you guys really DO need massive storage, in which case I really look forward for the day when these bad boys can take 128's.
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You're 100% right. I was speaking more toward someone who thinks 16GB isn't enough and wants 32. If you want 32, save a couple bucks and get the card. If you need ALL the space, then yeah get the 32 and a 64 card, but unless you need 96GB why spend the extra money?
$50 is definitely relative. I mean I have the Note instead of the Nexus because even though I'm not a massive stylus user I like having the option and the extra cost wasn't enough for me to mind, but I stuck with the 16 because I -reaaaaaally- feel like for 95% of users it's a smarter buy to get less included storage and add a card.
There's an added benefit, too. Let's say I buy a 16GB model and a 64GB card. Then in a year a new model comes out. I can once AGAIN get the 16GB model and stick my card in there. So not only did I save $50+ on the current one, but I saved it on the next one. It's savings that add up, and afford me the opportunity to get new devices! :laugh:
But again, it's about getting what YOU need. I'm sure some of you guys really DO need massive storage, in which case I really look forward for the day when these bad boys can take 128's.
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Hmm. I still don't understand why you would think someone who buys the 32GB Note wouldn't put a MicroSD card in it as well?
Also your cost savings analogy doesn't make any sense--but i'm sure you were just joking.
Let's set aside microSD cards aside for a bit.. Anyway you split it; it's $50 bucks difference between the 16GB/32GB model. for someone like me, it's money well spent.
skyline23 said:
Hmm. I still don't understand why you would think someone who buys the 32GB Note wouldn't put a MicroSD card in it as well?
Also your cost savings analogy doesn't make any sense--but i'm sure you were just joking.
Let's set aside microSD cards aside for a bit.. Anyway you split it; it's $50 bucks difference between the 16GB/32GB model. for someone like me, it's money well spent.
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I had a lot more typed, but then I thought back on it and you do make a damn good point. Once you're over $500 it starts to turn kinda irrelevant, LOL. No matter how you slice it, I have NEVER been happier with a tech purchase. I actually was unsure I wanted a tablet AT ALL before I got the 2012 version of the Note 10.1, and that was awesome enough, but the new one? Sublime. 16 or 32, whatever. Buy it, enjoy. Is it perfect? Naw. Better than any other tablet I've played with? By a long shot. I used this thing side by side with the Nexus 10 and don't wish I'd gone the other way in the slightest.
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I had a lot more typed, but then I thought back on it and you do make a damn good point. Once you're over $500 it starts to turn kinda irrelevant, LOL. No matter how you slice it, I have NEVER been happier with a tech purchase. I actually was unsure I wanted a tablet AT ALL before I got the 2012 version of the Note 10.1, and that was awesome enough, but the new one? Sublime. 16 or 32, whatever. Buy it, enjoy. Is it perfect? Naw. Better than any other tablet I've played with? By a long shot. I used this thing side by side with the Nexus 10 and don't wish I'd gone the other way in the slightest.
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Dude, definitely agree on that!!!:good::laugh:
I was debating on the Nexus 10 as well, as I really wanted the high resolution display on *any* new tablet.
Im so glad I sprung for the '14 model. The Samsung perks was a nice touch as well.
Anyways, enjoy!:good:
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Dude, definitely agree on that!!!:good::laugh:
I was debating on the Nexus 10 as well, as I really wanted the high resolution display on *any* new tablet.
Im so glad I sprung for the '14 model. The Samsung perks was a nice touch as well.
Anyways, enjoy!:good:
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You made the right choice, yeah. Is it just me or does the Nexus 10 feel like a Fisher Price toy by comparison? The 2014 feels like an executive briefcase to me, the Nexus 10 is a high school backpack. I hate the rubber back on it and the rounded corners. Seriously I opened the box of the 2014 up and was just like "oooohhh god I want to hold it even when it's not on."
I sold my Nexus 10 two weeks ago to get this and I'm so glad i did. This is definitely THE tablet to get now and it's a night and day difference compared to the Nexus 10.
SomeGuyDude said:
Why? The 16 will be a lot cheaper and you can just throw a 64GB card in it for less than the price difference. Unless you anticipate NEEDING 96GB of storage instead of 80 somehow, lower built-in storage + external card is always the best option.
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Too many apps just don't take advantage of SD card abilities. SNote and Evernote are perfect examples. My Lecture Notes folder on my SD card is already at 1GB. After taking the system into account the 16 you should have 10GB available before use. That's really not that much. The 32GB model only gives you 26GB to start with. And yes I also have a 64GB card.
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I'm getting one tomorrow and was also debating the 16 vs 32 question. But then I was checking out local stock in my area online and most stores are only selling the 32GB version. Problem solved, lol.
I should just listen to my own advice - I always tell people it's better to have more storage than you need, rather than "just enough". And in this case, a $50 difference isn't really that much.
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Too many apps just don't take advantage of SD card abilities. SNote and Evernote are perfect examples. My Lecture Notes folder on my SD card is already at 1GB. After taking the system into account the 16 you should have 10GB available before use. That's really not that much. The 32GB model only gives you 26GB to start with. And yes I also have a 64GB card.
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You can change the lecture notes folder in the lecture notes settings
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