[Q] Bad VOIP/SIP quality with integrated function - Skype is fine? - Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi,
I'm very satisfied with my nexus 4 exept one thing: When I use the integrated VOIP / SIP function, I have a very poor audio quality with echos on both sites. However Skye is working fine (on speaker).
Does anybody know about this problem and how to fix it? With my other phone (Defy with CyanogenMod 10, thx quarx) it is working perfectly fine.
thx
inso

Google hasn't bothered to develop the native SIP client so it's very crude and realistically unusable. It is integrated though, which makes it so appealing.
What you need is a SIP client that supports a packet loss / jitter tolerant codec like speex, ilbc, silk, or even g729.
Skype at least in the past used silk.
You may want to look into sipdroid or csipsimple. I'd love to use csipsimple, but last I used it, there was a nasty loop glitch when using it with google voice
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svCqNEf8k9Q

Thanks for the fast reply. I'll give csipsimple a try.
inso

do make sure to disable all codecs but that aren't packet loss / jitter friendly.
no g711 etc.
yes to speex, ilbc, g729, and to a lesser extent, gsm.

Unfortunately the echos still occured, even with csipsimple. I now fixed it by installing CM 10.1. Just in case anybody else has got this problem.
Again, thanks for your help

I haven't had many problems with it. I had one person say it echoed on their end but no one else. I haven't heard any echoes.
My problem is with trying to use Google voice. If I set the app to use voice for all calls it doesn't give me an option to call with internet. If I don't use Google voice it gives me the option to internet call. I would Prefer to be able to keep my Google voice settings the same but I had to set it to " ask every call". This way I can say " without Google voice" then get the option to use Internet calling.
But I don't want to just select " don't use Google voice for any calls". That would give me the option to use Internet calling every time but wouldnt use the correct number when I don't use Internet calling.
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In that case, set Android to always use internet calling, and set GV to prompt. Then if you hit yes, it'll use GV and dial out. If you hit no, it'll use internet calling.
But, I don't know how satisfied you'll be with the native client... Poor codec choice.

ziddey said:
In that case, set Android to always use internet calling, and set GV to prompt. Then if you hit yes, it'll use GV and dial out. If you hit no, it'll use internet calling.
But, I don't know how satisfied you'll be with the native client... Poor codec choice.
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I'll give that a shot and see how it works.
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Skype / Sip / Voip App

Anyone any advise on the best skype, voip, sip apps ??
Thanks
If you need to make skype-to-skype calls then Fring and Nimbuzz. If you just need to make paid calls, Skype Lite should do.
Best sip app is sipdroid.
what's sip?
It's one of VoIP protocols: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Session_Initiation_Protocol
I have to say that I used fring the other day to do a skype to skype call over wifi, and the quality was bad - delayed audio, crackling, general low audio quality. My partner has the skype client for iPhone, and her call quality is, to be honest, amazing. It sounds better than calling on mobiles (when calling over wifi).
I hope this is not common and I would love for someone to tell me if Nimbuzz has good call quality over wifi.
Cleargrey said:
I have to say that I used fring the other day to do a skype to skype call over wifi, and the quality was bad - delayed audio, crackling, general low audio quality. My partner has the skype client for iPhone, and her call quality is, to be honest, amazing. It sounds better than calling on mobiles (when calling over wifi).
I hope this is not common and I would love for someone to tell me if Nimbuzz has good call quality over wifi.
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I had the same experience with fring over wifi. No point in even trying 3G.
Why don't you just go ahead and test nimbuzz yourself?
nimbuzz has better sound quality than Fring. Do not know about the comparison to iphone skype app.
What is this Skype Lite?
Is this the one for Verizon Wireless?
http://www.skype.com/download/skype/android/
But this one is useless to me because it cannot be used with WiFi ...
And it is only for Verizon
I just dont get this, why Skype does not make generic full native client for Android?
Google does not allow it?
Skype does not know how to code?
Patents?
Karolis said:
If you need to make skype-to-skype calls then Fring and Nimbuzz. If you just need to make paid calls, Skype Lite should do.
Best sip app is sipdroid.
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I really can't believe we can't get an official skype app for android.......
I think most mobile networks do not want people making calls over Skype because it goes over VoIP the voice network - So your network would lose out on charging you.
However, I just found out you can install Skype Lite beta on the HTC Desire and it makes calls/IM's. If you look on google for "Android Freeware - Skype Lite Beta" you should find it.
Does it work via Wi-Fi?
Rogem said:
I think most mobile networks do not want people making calls over Skype because it goes over VoIP the voice network - So your network would lose out on charging you.
However, I just found out you can install Skype Lite beta on the HTC Desire and it makes calls/IM's. If you look on google for "Android Freeware - Skype Lite Beta" you should find it.
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If you have the phone on 3 (three.co.uk) contract you get free skype-to-skype calls for life
Now if only everyone in the world went on three, we'de never have to pay for a call to anywhere in the world again lol
gogol said:
Does it work via Wi-Fi?
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The chat/skype>skype feature works via the 3g/data/WiFi however landline calls goes via your phone's voice network (charging your network minutes).
Luke_Hero said:
Now if only everyone in the world went on 3, we'de never have to pay for a call to anywhere in the world again lol
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But then we would all be on the 3 network
I use Smartgroshen app, simple, good quality of voice and sync with your phone contacts. Get 0.5 euro at start.
I am also using Smartgroshen app for calling. Skype is OK, and Smartgroschen more than OK.:good::good::good:
• I use Smartgroshen app. • With Smartgroschen app, you can make cheap phone calls to all mobiles and landline in the world from your smartphones and tablet without sim card.

Google voice only?

I shut my service off yesterday as I will be in Japan for a few months and the international roaming is crazy! Any options to make it work with Google voice only over Wifi? I tried calling and it says no service available.
Also, I'm in Japan, are there any other options like configuring it to work with Softbank or anything like that? Thanks.
Have you tried to download and use the skype app over wifi? It may cost you a little to call but would be better than the roaming fees.
jmd1981 said:
I shut my service off yesterday as I will be in Japan for a few months and the international roaming is crazy! Any options to make it work with Google voice only over Wifi? I tried calling and it says no service available.
Also, I'm in Japan, are there any other options like configuring it to work with Softbank or anything like that? Thanks.
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Google Voice on Android does not currently support VOIP from the handset to the server. That feature is only available through the Gmail desktop browser page on an operating system that is supported by the Gtalk voice and video chat plugin. Another way to get end-to-end VOIP with Google Voice is using Gizmo5, if you had signed up for that service before Google bought it out. That only lets you do incoming calls though.
Also, I'm in Japan, are there any other options like configuring it to work with Softbank or anything like that? Thanks.
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If you have a temp visa or better yet a coworker or friend there you could probably get month-to-month service there. That would be the best bet, but it's generally one of the more difficult countries for visitors to get a sim card in. The airport might have some rental services, but iirc they rented you the whole phone (by the day no less) and it's fairly expensive compared to regular service.
Also it goes without saying that if you want to use a Softbank sim you will need to subsidy unlock (also known as sim unlock) the phone.
Edit: it is rumored that the WiFi calling feature that T-mo is bringing to the G2 and other Android devices will allow a connection and minutes usage internationally. Personally I think this is unlikely (for a few reasons, some of which are legal/regulatory) but it would be pretty nice. Of course this would seriously short circuit the way GV for Android works. You would not be able to make outbound calls with GV in the caller ID.
If you need an unlock code for that phone. to use a japan sim. Let me know via PM
You could always install skype and set your outgoing caller id to your google voice number. Then sign up for a number at sipgate.com and add your new number to google voice. Once that's activated, download and install Fring or sipdroid and add your sipgate information. Use skype to making outgoing, take incoming calls with fring or sipdroid. Alternatively, if you don't want to pay for unlimited skype-out, you can try one of the many google voice dialer apps out there. They basically initiate calls using the google voice web interface, which you can actually do via your browser if none of the apps work out.
Edit.
Or just buy a skype number and unlimited skype out then setup skype caller id and forward your GV calls to your skype #
I'm not sure if any devs will see this here, so I will probably post in the G1 dev forum or the general android forum as well, but I wanted to do a search first and this is the only similar thread I have found. Anyway...
As some of you know, you can now place FREE calls to anywhere in the US or Canada using GMail and the "voice and video chat plugin". You can also receive calls from within GMail if you have a GoogleVoice account and you set it up to forward GoogleVoice calls to "Google Chat" as well as your phone(s).
This is awesome! I can now answer calls from GMail instead of my phone. I wish the desktop GoogleTalk app did that so I wouldn't have to always keep a webbrowser page open to GMail, but that is not what this post is about...
I got to thinking: if GMail can place and receive free phone calls, why can't I do that on my phone (or any device with internet)? I downloaded every available webbrowser for Android and tried to surf to GMail, but none of them even loaded the page (???), much less the plugin.
While searching for any possible solution, I learned that the required "voice and video chat plugin" is available for Linux. This fact makes me almost positive that it is somehow possible for someone to develop an Android app that loads that plugin, logs in to GMail (spoofing a desktop browser), and displays the Pop-out dial pad capable of placing and receiving free calls!
Is anyone up to the challenge? This is huge people! FREE phone where ever there is internet. I hope someone can make this happen.
There is a way of doing this... you ARE talking about calling and using your 3g/4g network, right?
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Um... ok, what is the way of doing it?
I am talking about using the Google "voice and video chat plugin" along with the dialer in GMail to make/receive free calls anywhere with internet (WiFi/3G/4G, without using minutes) just like you can already do if you have a Windows/Mac/Linux webbrowser, but through an Android device.
Don't you have WiFi Calling?
AndroidBoston said:
Don't you have WiFi Calling?
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Do you not realize the WiFi calling app still relies on the TMO network?
rpmccormick said:
Um... ok, what is the way of doing it?
I am talking about using the Google "voice and video chat plugin" along with the dialer in GMail to make/receive free calls anywhere with internet (WiFi/3G/4G, without using minutes) just like you can already do if you have a Windows/Mac/Linux webbrowser, but through an Android device.
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No, there is no equivalent of the gmail chat plugin. You're limited to using a sip client and forwarding your GV to that number
I'm pretty sure you can't even roam in Japan anymore. Unless this phone has the UMTS frequencies for 1900, you wont get anything. Recently, Softbank shut off GSM/2G service.

(tmo) Google voice on tab?

just though of something, can we use google voice on the tab by forwarding all the calls from our cell phone and be able to receive/make calls that way? what do you guys think?.
And how do you plan on doing this without actually having ever phone functionality? It obviously will work, getting google voice working on the tab. The real problem is getting the phone functionality, well......functional!
ayman07 said:
And how do you plan on doing this without actually having ever phone functionality? It obviously will work, getting google voice working on the tab. The real problem is getting the phone functionality, well......functional!
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hmm i guess you are right and if we have the phone functionality working then there would be no need for google voice....
U cant. theres no dialer app, so theres no option to dial out using GV
Ive never tried GV on android. But im assuming thats how it works (that it integrate into built in dialer) from what ive read
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You can make wifi calls through Skype. It is $2.99 a month for unlimited calling.
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Has anybody tried making calls through gmail?
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djflmmbl said:
Has anybody tried making calls through gmail?
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Gmail VOIP Want work, has to have a plugin that will not work on android.
Check this website out:
working with Skype and Google Voice.
http://androidforums.com/samsung-galaxy-tab/217846-skype-google-voice-how.html
Very nice indeed
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the problem using skype is it doesnt work with bluetooth headsets.. so u either on speaker phone or plug a a headset in with wire which sucks
x2beach said:
the problem using skype is it doesnt work with bluetooth headsets.. so u either on speaker phone or plug a a headset in with wire which sucks
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What about something like Nimbuzz?
video of google voice working
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ItTIswb1AnQ
ayman07 said:
video of google voice working
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ItTIswb1AnQ
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Nice.... thanks for posting that...
You can't receive standard voice calls, but you can set Google Voice to call you on a VoIP line. E.g. I have a Gizmo5 account and use that with CSipSimple to redirect phone calls to.
I found the voice quality over Wifi with headphones to be excellent ;-)
Volker1 said:
You can't receive standard voice calls, but you can set Google Voice to call you on a VoIP line. E.g. I have a Gizmo5 account and use that with CSipSimple to redirect phone calls to.
I found the voice quality over Wifi with headphones to be excellent ;-)
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lol what you talking about? yes you can make calls. you gotta hack it of course. see the video two posts up

Skype overides sip

Im using CM7 on my Desire. I have a direct SIP account set up on it via 'Call Settings-Use Internet Calls' so whenever I make a call I am given the choice of either regular or internet call. However if I install Skype then my choice of calling is either regular or Skype, my choice of using my sip account is no longer available. I have to either freeze or uninstall Skype to get it back again. Does anyone know a way around this or if the developers are aware of it even.
Thanks
Am I the only one who uses their Desire for making internet calls with?
Looks that way
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Know what mate, you deserve a thanks just for replying.
Thanks.

Free Google Voice VoIP calls using Gingerbread's integrated SIP functionality

I've been experimenting with the built-in SIP functionality in Gingerbread. Here's what I have so far:
I have three different Google Voice numbers. My main GV number is linked to the official GV app on my phone, and I use it for most calls.
My other two numbers forward to SipGate accounts. I configured the Gingerbread internet call menu with my SipGate accounts. My use of those lines is specific and limited enough that I enable SIP calling only when I need it.
I use the Google Voice mobile site when I need to originate calls for my secondary numbers. I know some people prefer third-party callback apps, but sometimes those stop working when Google changes their API. Those numbers are mostly incoming anyway, so that's a minor issue.
Because my phone is rooted, I can make VoIP calls on both wifi and cellular data, although quality suffers on 3G.
If anyone is interested in how to set this up, I posted complete configuration instructions on my blog.
Also, if anyone has ideas for a better setup, I'd love to hear them.
I am just now starting voip class at my college and this seems like a fun little experiment to help me learn a bit and see what it can do. Thanks.
Good guide. I could have used this a few months ago. I've tried exactly the same steps on my Shift, even to the point of installing iDialer and Fring on my HTC Touch Pro 2 (same as the Tilt 2). In both cases I was never happy with the performance though (and I couldn't get iDialer to integrate with GV to make it work as a VOIP only WiFi phone). There's always a lag, which throws off my wife whenever we try to use it.
I just tried Talkatone Preview for Android as well, and it's slightly better, but there's still a lag.
Have you looked at grooveip? the app and a voice number is all you need. Roommates cells got turned off so I went with groove and it seems to work great.
Keep up the great work.
I would probably use this if I needed to make international calls.
I get good enough Sprint service here that I'm never out of coverage, but international calls can run that bill up.
Aestivalis said:
Good guide. I could have used this a few months ago. I've tried exactly the same steps on my Shift, even to the point of installing iDialer and Fring on my HTC Touch Pro 2 (same as the Tilt 2). In both cases I was never happy with the performance though (and I couldn't get iDialer to integrate with GV to make it work as a VOIP only WiFi phone). There's always a lag, which throws off my wife whenever we try to use it.
I just tried Talkatone Preview for Android as well, and it's slightly better, but there's still a lag.
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This is the major pitfall of VOIP in general, but I did find a really cool app that made calls after you listened to an ad. I'll try and locate it. You need a computer and mic for it. It's like Skype, but free.
Grooveip is really nice. I was using that to make free calls back to the states while in sout east asia. Easy to get free wireless hotspots over there.
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I use Linphone but it's configured to my home voip provider (Callcentric). It should work also to make free calls though.

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