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What's the deal with the forum? It's sorting topics by name by default and we're missing countless pages of threads.
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Is something wrong with my cache or is it the forum? Every time I load it up, it shows the settings below as "from the last day" and by title in ascending order.
What a ingenious topic you chose! Who would want topics like "problematic thread ordering" in the "About xda-developers.com" forum?
Idiot!
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So quick to get your panties in a bunch! Easy there Chatty Cathie. I think you're just jealous because I'm beautiful and you're not. Maybe you just need a make over, that will help your confidence. Order yourself a tastey foo-foo drink in the meantime.
Honestly the title could have been better developed. I can't change it now. Also this is the only forum on the site that I use so I wasn't aware if this is a problem with others too. I assumed it was just this one.
Just click on the column title "Last post" and it will reorder it properly
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Just click on the column title "Last post" and it will reorder it properly
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I guess that is not what Nicnatros means.
If you choose "Last Post" you'll see the last posts in every (sub)forum.
But formerly when you browsed to the wizard forum you would get numerous pages with the first (few) pages unread post, en thereafter the posts which were allready read.
So that would be a kind of lasts post in that (sub)forum
Althought Nicnatros did not choose the title very carefully, I think it really is a bug, and would really appreciate if it could be turned back to the old way
hello to everyone, there is a program like pocket cm but only for sms?
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hello to everyone, there is a program like pocket cm but only for sms?
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Yes, use search and don't post new threads.
What is with all of these new threads and posts by people that obviously haven't searched? BLAH.
Well, just to give the benefit of the doubt, try VITO's SMS-Chat (not free). PocketCM is probably the slickest Threaded SMS that's FREE, so I'm sticking to it for my needs. However, many of VITO's iWindowsMobile programs seem to um... "draw inspiration" from tene's PocketCM suite, and thus, the iPhone. Check them out.
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I have to give them the benefit of the doubt the first time I see it from them. As a beginner I was initially intimidated by the elitist behavior of some board members here.
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What is with all of these new threads and posts by people that obviously haven't searched? BLAH.
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Dude, no doubt. Look and your and I's join date versus the number of posts or threads we have started. Its amazing. Don't get me wrong I know I did it as a newb too but dang. It is getting out of hand. before long all of the worlds best devs will leave this site for lack of control!!!
FYI, giving them answers in these new repeat threads only goes to encourage the behaivor.
i really don't agree with the search before posting attitude some people keep implementing.. especially on how the search function of this forum suck..
have you ever tried searching (in forum search - not google forum search, which is way way broad) with the keywords SMS or GUI in a string? it will never give you a helpful answer because the search disregards words less than 3 letters (to filter out articles and/or/at/etc i presume) and returns you with bull**** search reports (and how can you ever search for SMS anyway)..
also, since this is a forum, and a thread contains numerous posts, search engines tend to patch up words from different posts and construct them to a phrase as a result matching your querry..
another point is, since most of these people are noobs.. they don't actually know what they are looking for.. c'mon guys.. how can you search for something if you even don't have any clue on what you are searching for..
like his query, he's looking for a pocketCM style SMS.. maybe he is reffering to is a THREADED SMS style, which a newbie obviously wouldn't know (how can someone new instantly know that a chat style SMS is called a threaded SMS anyway?)..
or maybe he is looking for something that is VISUALLY and FUNCTIONALLY the same as PocketCM's SMS function but without the Contacts part - how can you even translate this querry into search keywords?
he's not been in the forum for ages like most of some people here, so even old stuff for us, will sound and feel new to newer posters..
for us, searching for something like threaded SMS is very easy since we have already passed and read all these threads reagarding SMS and we ALREADY HAVE A HINT on what (product name or keyword) to search for.. so don't expect everyone (especially newbies) to find his answers in his first few hours of searching..
given that.. the next best thing to do.. is ask those who already know..
maybe the best response to these posts is to give them hints on what specific keywords you are going to use for a fruitful search.. and not flame them to damnation..
this is still a forum.. and a forum is defined as an online place to Share Ideas and Help One Another..
even if this is a developer forum, which surely is True to sharing and creating ideas (or softwares) - no doubt, the notion Helping one another should never be disregarded..
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i really don't agree with the search before posting attitude some people keep implementing.. especially on how the search function of this forum suck..
have you ever tried searching (in forum search - not google forum search, which is way way broad) with the keywords SMS or GUI in a string? it will never give you a helpful answer because the search disregards words less than 3 letters (to filter out articles and/or/at/etc i presume) and returns you with bull**** search reports (and how can you ever search for SMS anyway)..
also, since this is a forum, and a thread contains numerous posts, search engines tend to patch up words from different posts and construct them to a phrase as a result matching your querry..
another point is, since most of these people are noobs.. they don't actually know what they are looking for.. c'mon guys.. how can you search for something if you even don't have any clue on what you are searching for..
like his query, he's looking for a pocketCM style SMS.. maybe he is reffering to is a THREADED SMS style, which a newbie obviously wouldn't know (how can someone new instantly know that a chat style SMS is called a threaded SMS anyway?)..
or maybe he is looking for something that is VISUALLY and FUNCTIONALLY the same as PocketCM's SMS function but without the Contacts part - how can you even translate this querry into search keywords?
he's not been in the forum for ages like most of some people here, so even old stuff for us, will sound and feel new to newer posters..
for us, searching for something like threaded SMS is very easy since we have already passed and read all these threads reagarding SMS and we ALREADY HAVE A HINT on what (product name or keyword) to search for.. so don't expect everyone (especially newbies) to find his answers in his first few hours of searching..
given that.. the next best thing to do.. is ask those who already know..
maybe the best response to these posts is to give them hints on what specific keywords you are going to use for a fruitful search..
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Partially true. The evil you are describing is a turn earn system. The reason why this site is getting so difficult search is because tollerance has allowed newbs to continue to post new threads with out any restraint and it spreads the answers to common or frequently asked questions everywhere. IMO what needs to happen is a requirement needs to be established for new threads to be started. That would solve it.
ytsejam_ said:
i really don't agree with the search before posting attitude some people keep implementing.. especially on how the search function of this forum suck..
have you ever tried searching (in forum search - not google forum search, which is way way broad) with the keywords SMS or GUI in a string? it will never give you a helpful answer because the search disregards words less than 3 letters (to filter out articles and/or/at/etc i presume) and returns you with bull**** search reports (and how can you ever search for SMS anyway)..
also, since this is a forum, and a thread contains numerous posts, search engines tend to patch up words from different posts and construct them to a phrase as a result matching your querry..
another point is, since most of these people are noobs.. they don't actually know what they are looking for.. c'mon guys.. how can you search for something if you even don't have any clue on what you are searching for..
like his query, he's looking for a pocketCM style SMS.. maybe he is reffering to is a THREADED SMS style, which a newbie obviously wouldn't know (how can someone new instantly know that a chat style SMS is called a threaded SMS anyway?)..
or maybe he is looking for something that is VISUALLY and FUNCTIONALLY the same as PocketCM's SMS function but without the Contacts part - how can you even translate this querry into search keywords?
he's not been in the forum for ages like most of some people here, so even old stuff for us, will sound and feel new to newer posters..
for us, searching for something like threaded SMS is very easy since we have already passed and read all these threads reagarding SMS and we ALREADY HAVE A HINT on what (product name or keyword) to search for.. so don't expect everyone (especially newbies) to find his answers in his first few hours of searching..
given that.. the next best thing to do.. is ask those who already know..
maybe the best response to these posts is to give them hints on what specific keywords you are going to use for a fruitful search..
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Right on brother, some people tend to get a little too big for the britches and forget that forum etiquette goes both ways. I've read some pretty mean posts, and I really don't get why people have to talk down to the noobs. All I'm saying is if you wanna help someone out, great! That's damn decent of you. If you don't want to help someone out then don't, but keep your rude comments to yourself.
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maybe the best response to these posts is to give them hints on what specific keywords you are going to use for a fruitful search.. and not flame them to damnation..
this is still a forum.. and a forum is defined as an online place to Share Ideas and Help One Another..
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Hence why I explained SMS-Chat. There's no point if this thread turned into a discussion thread over the merits of searching, but I do know that there has been an absolute backlog of uninformed posts that could easily be searched. Often times, I even see posts stating "too many pages to read, so i'll ask this again..." or "i'm too lazy to read this whole thread, can anyone just give me a quick answer..." or "i'm new here. i want my phone to look like the iphone. i found some links, but i don't know what a cab is. this is getting annoying "
It's frustrating. Another example is the SPB Mobile Shell 2.0 Skin Collections thread. It states in the first post that the thread should just be for skins, yet I see way too many posts saying "Thanks" and not much else. I'm against flaming myself, but I'd just like to point out that afarinella97, the OP, has actually been a member of this forum for longer than I have.
Btw:
VITO SMS-Chat
Palm Threaded SMS
Birdsoft Extreme Text
Windows Mobile 6.1 Built-in Threading
Like I said, I stick with PocketCM. There have been requests for the developer to make the SMS standalone, but nothing's occurred yet. Have fun texting!
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Right on brother, some people tend to get a little too big for the britches and forget that forum etiquette goes both ways. I've read some pretty mean posts, and I really don't get why people have to talk down to the noobs. All I'm saying is if you wanna help someone out, great! That's damn decent of you. If you don't want to help someone out then don't, but keep your rude comments to yourself.
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As spoken by a Newb!!!! Its not that we don't want to help out. Its that when help is spread all over the place it makes it difficult for newbs to search when they should be searching and difficult for people who have been here for a while to provide answers that have already been obtained.
you probably don't search.
why not open a new section called 'Questions' for anyone with questions to post there? ... most likely they'll never get answered but at least they wont be posted over here !!!
hello everyone! Thank you all for the answers but probably I would not have explained, I apologize in advance.I tried and looked with google xda but what I needed was simply a part of the programme cm pocket only pefr the sms ...Two programs will know wellocket cm I had for some time when I had a p3600 and I find it very nice but I prefer settings contatcs manager by default ...,Vito sms softwae I tried it but I am not crazy.
I just wanted to know if with some modifications registry could simply implement the graphics of sms as in the programme in pocket cm on my htc touch...sorry again and thanks in advance if you can help me now that i have been more clear with my question...
Bye
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hello everyone! Thank you all for the answers but probably I would not have explained, I apologize in advance.I tried and looked with google xda but what I needed was simply a part of the programme cm pocket only pefr the sms ...Two programs will know wellocket cm I had for some time when I had a p3600 and I find it very nice but I prefer settings contatcs manager by default ...,Vito sms softwae I tried it but I am not crazy.
I just wanted to know if with some modifications registry could simply implement the graphics of sms as in the programme in pocket cm on my htc touch...sorry again and thanks in advance if you can help me now that i have been more clear with my question...
Bye
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hi you have to try vijay phone tools , Search that (on google ), I don't have just now in my hand ( I can find the cabor link but afeternoon)but I can say you it allows you to have sms models , vey easy use , I have unistalled it but it is very good work from vijay555 (moderator ere) and install pocket cm keyboard 0.13 for the SIP
I'm not Ok with those who flame noobs systematically , the search function is not easy here. For me I have a look on this forum to see if new subjects , and also I'm using google search and subscrbe to thread here
there are too many things for a new one here , it is really very great , so help them as you wanted to be helped in your beginning
Cheers to all
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As spoken by a Newb!!!! Its not that we don't want to help out. Its that when help is spread all over the place it makes it difficult for newbs to search when they should be searching and difficult for people who have been here for a while to provide answers that have already been obtained.
you probably don't search.
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As a matter of fact poophead, I do search and I search often and frequently. And yes I said poophead not because I'm a 3rd grader, but alas because you're a poophead. All I was trying to say is be nice, us "noobs" search more than you think.
As a recent newbie, I do feel obligated to say a few things here:
Things to do for newbies:
1) Read
2) Read
3) Read
I discovered the site (from a link on fatwallet) after I bought my tmobile wing last October. Ever since then I was doing a lot of reading (more than what I do with my major - my advisor absolutely hates that, and so does my wife too), and learned a lot about the roms, terminology, great apps, etc.
I do not discourage asking questions, but I do think as newbie the question should be asked INTELLIGENTLY, which comes from a person who has done the reading and given a lot of thought about it. Frankly, I think OP's question is one of those.
As for the rest of us (elite, non-newbie, etc), a question should be judged by the quality, but not by the question mark. OP's question, for example, he/she understand what he/she is after, but don't quite understand the details which is OK. Given a few hints then he/she can start searching for the real thing. Azimuth21 has given some examples of bad questions and those should definitely not tolerated.
In general the question should be asked at the appropriate place; either the thread that directly concerning the topic (like PointUI, pocketcm, S2U2, etc) or at the general section of this forum. After all, the general section is there for this purpose.
Wtf is wrong with people here?
The thread has become an off-topic ranting thread already.
Best approach for such questions would be to either not reply or answer it without ranting about not using search and go.
Eg.
Newbie:
"hello to everyone, there is a program like pocket cm but only for sms?"
Reply:
"Tene (the developer of PCM) did not provide a separate module of PCM for just SMS, in other words, it's not possible to get just the SMS feature of PCM. You can try looking for Vito SMS (commercial app) or upgrading to WM6.1 for the threaded SMS style. Good luck."
See how simple and peaceful that is? And you have provided all necessary information. Can't we all just get along?
Like a famous dev here once said: "There are no stupid questions, just offensive answers."
because people dont know HOW to search properly. when you click search at the top here you can use the forum search and type in sms and click ONLY search the thread titles. this GREATLY reduces the numbers of hits for the word sms which would be hundreds of threads. i just typed threaded sms into google and got a slew of good programs right on the first results page- iwindowsmobile, palm's, txtman, etc etc.
People honestly dont try because i bet everything i own there are at LEAST 10 similar threads of this exact same topic out there with the answers too. How many times can the same basic questions be asked and answered? This just dilutes the real content of this developing forum which is for new programs and hacks and such.
all threads like this end up doing is making even MORE search results confusing the next batch of noobs with even more results when trying to search.
Its no eyeCandy Like PocketCM but it gives u threaded SMS feature like inn PocketCM
http://www.1800pocketpc.com/2008/02/18/txtman-20.html
the0ne said:
Its no eyeCandy Like PocketCM but it gives u threaded SMS feature like inn PocketCM
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Well, WM6.1 has exactly the same feature as a standard...
And doubling what Azimuth21 said, I'd rather stick with PocketCM.
And.. my penny for the discussion: exactly, as DaVince said - if you don't want to answer, do not.
I agree that all the searching difficulties arose from not keeping the forum clean, but now it is done, you can't reverse it.... searching for something so generic is almost impossible here.
Newbie
As a newbie myself I can say that at first it is not common sense navigating the forum. I found that just reading through the pages (new posts, hermesm6 etc.) and being patient some other ignorant sap had the same questions and concerns I had. Us newbies just need to be patient and enjoy the process or READING and not just come here to suck out what they need and not enjoy the forum. There are so many things of interest here and to just spend all this time looking up an sms app. Anyway, hope the newbie can flash, I had the same issue. for me it was a memory consumption issue with pocketcm. I like the 6.1 threaded sms due to its intergration. I would also suggest searching for threaded sms as this is what you are really looking for. I don't think you are looking for anything sms. Also when searching try to select show posts only this seems to work well for me. Enjoy the ride, Reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaad!
Oh look, I'm a member now, WHOOPIE!!
hi guys, sorry for new thread but i need few things for my diamond. i wrote to support center but no answer, here is what i need
"hi guys, have diamond for a few days, searched and read lot of stuff here but still didnt find exactly what I wanted, maybe somen can help me with these things:
1. I would like to have battery life in % eg: 75%
2. Some simple organizer (dont like default calendar too much)
3. which processes I can kill with something to get more performance from my diamond? (for example: i kill opera9 - which I dont use and the process starts automatically)
4. really good and simple keyboard which can be used by fingers
really big thanks to someone who can help"
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hi guys, sorry for new thread but i need few things for my diamond. i wrote to support center but no answer, here is what i need
"hi guys, have diamond for a few days, searched and read lot of stuff here but still didnt find exactly what I wanted, maybe somen can help me with these things:
1. I would like to have battery life in % eg: 75%
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=437307
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2. Some simple organizer (dont like default calendar too much)
3. which processes I can kill with something to get more performance from my diamond? (for example: i kill opera9 - which I dont use and the process starts automatically)
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4. really good and simple keyboard which can be used by fingers
really big thanks to someone who can help"
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=460872
Now I found these all on the very first page of the forum.
So I'm going to use a quote that is been used many times on the forum.
USE THE ****ING SEARCH TOOL.
it's there for your pleasure.
also, just browse around and who knows what nice things you may find.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=437307
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=418151
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=460872
Now I found these all on the very first page of the forum.
So I'm going to use a quote that is been used many times on the forum.
USE THE ****ING SEARCH TOOL.
it's there for your pleasure.
also, just browse around and who knows what nice things you may find.
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there is ton of stuff here, Ive tried to read lot of threads/posts - tried search, maybe I was using wrong words...didn't find much things that I though it is useful
so ****ING thangs for answer, I will look at those threads
hawk_ktulu said:
there is ton of stuff here, Ive tried to read lot of threads/posts - tried search, maybe I was using wrong words...didn't find much things that I though it is useful
so ****ING thangs for answer, I will look at those threads
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Well, there is this thing about this forum.
You see, lots of people are building nice little programs for windows based phones, and there are many things that they didn't think of, because they didn't think that their keyboard was a really big problem.
They did find it a problem to have a keyboard to use with their fingers, because ot wouldn't leave enough space for their text mesaging.
battery life, it's seeded on the forum about that object.
and I did see a program that helped closing programs for you, but you might just wanna try start -> settings -> taskmanager -> buttons, maybe this already helps you
Everything on this forum is free and everyone is very willing to help you, but not if we see a question for the so maniest time.
What I propose to you, is if you are looking for something, but can't find it, make a request.
make perfectly clear what you are looking for and how this could benefit you.
maybe one of the programmers might see the benefit as well and wants to write someting for you.
hawk_ktulu said:
hi guys, sorry for new thread but i need few things for my diamond. i wrote to support center but no answer, here is what i need
"hi guys, have diamond for a few days, searched and read lot of stuff here but still didnt find exactly what I wanted, maybe somen can help me with these things:
1. I would like to have battery life in % eg: 75%
2. Some simple organizer (dont like default calendar too much)
3. which processes I can kill with something to get more performance from my diamond? (for example: i kill opera9 - which I dont use and the process starts automatically)
4. really good and simple keyboard which can be used by fingers
really big thanks to someone who can help"
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Well the answers you have got show just what an unwelcoming and unfriendly place this is - certainly one of the worst forums for that I know. But then lots of useful info too, and that is the problem. Despite the "in crowd" people's suggestion the search tool is marginally more useful than wetting your finger and sticking it in the air, unless you are used to it!
Just a shame nobody has any Christmas spirit for newcomers aint it!
Hmm, I see what you mean.
Funny thing is, I didn't mean it to be this harsh, but as I read it back, I see how easily it is to provoke people.
So hereby I apologize to Hawk-Kthulu
I'll also will use the f word some less in the future.
everytime i try to install (volume down button + power button) it says "No image found". It really frustrates the living sh*t out of me! i completed everything untill the last step:
* Uncompress the .rar file to get the .image file.
* Rename the .image file to Kovsimg.nbh
* Copy the Kovsimg.nbh file to the top of the SD card.
* Remove the battery for 5 secs (guarantees the phone is turned off).
* Hold down the volume down button, then hold down the power button at the same time.
* After 2-3 secs you'll see the reg/green/blue stripes, then it will go to a light grey background saying "Loading".
after that it says No image found!
someone able to help me?
ive tried the search but i couldnt find anythink useful
Could you just keep all this waffle to one thread, its getting pretty ridiculous seeing yet another OMG I cant figure out which ROM, why ROM, how ROM, what ROM thread from your good self, why not just put all your questions in one thread... please...
I agree.
And please: go to the XPERIA ROM DEVELOPMENT subforum and read the sticky posts since this has been asked (and answered...) before !!
Ah the witty reply of the witless, thank your for your kindly worded message, those gentle words of wisdom surely touched my heart... but if you searched just a little and used some of that towering intellect so evident in your wonderful message you might have found what you seek... the reason no one replies to you or hand feeds you your answer is because with just a little bit of searching (and after being told several times to search) you would have found your answer... well done their chap... take care and good luck with your x1, when you brick it I guess that will be everyone elses fault for not doing your work for you... Watch out Gtrab, vitriol abounds...
You know, normally i wouldn't even respond to this but since you all got the urge to reply to EVERY thread or reply with the same smartass beloni, i've chosen to give my opinion.
You know how difficult it is for a first time WM or smartphone user to learn stuff about it? 90% of this forums users are experienced persons and all expect from others that they too are well experienced with WM/X1. EVEN THE BLOODY TUTORIALS HAVE TUTORIALS, and every thread is connected to 10 other threads about RUU, scripts and other stuff.
Not to mention the hundreds of abbreviations that one has to try and learn BY CHANCE (because somebody in the thread chooses to spell out the whole word instead of the abbreviation, god bless those persons).
So i've been trying to update to the new firmware aswel, but i have the same "no image file!" problem. Have you ever tried to search with the key words "no image file" or something like that? it filters out the word NO so all that remains in the search is image file, and guess what... every thread has atleast 10 matches with "image file".
So i've gone through all of the stickies and a couple of other threads and found some other users with the same problem. Now i face the next problem, 10 people ask about the same question and the answer is never clear.
I've found a couple of answers, and tried all of them but they wouldn't work, and now because of people like you (especially you Gtrab) i'm reticent to ask further questions because you people have the need to keep talking down to others. That's all i wanted to say.
So if you've read all the way up to here, i thank you for listening; you're a good person
Same thing happened with my microsd card. Have you tried a fresh format, with nothing else on the card? I ended up flashing the old fashion way, with RUU.
xda-devs is a free Encyclopedia, not a Hotline
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There's no other way... unless you post your PC brad, USB port specs, installed apps, kind of firewall and antivirus, your ROM, xperia model... oh so many vairable to list... This is TRIAL AND ERROR, there's no "easy way to the rainbow" Dorothy: This ain't no "home cooked biscuits", we're talking 'bout a expenive piece of hardware that can get bricked if you don't learn the appropriate basic knowledge first
Hence, It's IMPOSSIBLE to wite a fail-proof "UNIVERSAL TUTORIAL"
I posted a FULL scientific test about SD cards in the ROM DEVELOPMENT subforum, I had to test a dozen cards with a dozen formatting settings under Win XP and Vista until I finally found the right way to do it, and then I went and POSTED my results and SHARED with the community in the appropriate threads
Nobody told me what to do, I had to read and read and read again and still keep reading
This is mainly in response to Nyans post...
Firstly I dont often post sarcastic or admonishing posts but this chap really takes the cake by posting several threads with the same or similar issues that are very easily found through simple searching...
I do know how difficult it is for a first time user and whats more a relatively technologically illiterate user (thats me)... I have literally spent days searching for the information, trying out what I have found and then re-searching to solve problems or re do something I didnt get right or understand the first time... I am probably in the bottom 2% of the 10% that you claim is the non expert here (although IMHO I would say the percentage of experts is much lower)...
As for the search process it can be a pain, but if you use the google search and use terms like x1 or xperia on the end of what it is you look for it often leads you to the right place...
If all the answers you have found and tried do not work then try pming someone who seems like they know what they are about... I have done that on several occasions and they have all replied with useful and helpful answers usually pointing me in the right direction...
I also feel you are being harsh re your comment about "talking down to people"... too often people jump this board and ask without first reading, even on threads where the answer is a few posts above theirs... so more often than not I feel the odd "RTFM" is warranted... if like me you are technically challenged then my advice is read a bit, then read some more, then play with your phone, read some more and then read again to figure out what it is you read...
Finally re my post above that comments on the witty reply of the witless... I posted that after I had a very abusive email from the OP of this thread... so I felt that the reply was warranted there also... I hope you work out all the foibles of this phone, and good luck working out all the info, it can be daunting I know but it is worth it in the end...
I've been searching for days now, and can't seem to figure out why the icons are all mixed up...
Is there anyway to alphabetize the icons in the start menu?
I have a bunch of games loaded in a games folder and it's all mixed up, any ideas?
I tried searching the site and even googled it and all I came up with was a registry edit, but I don't have the key they say to edit.
I even tried deleting the folder and putting the icons back one at a time, in alphabetical order, but they still end up mixxed. ??
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I've been searching for days now, and can't seem to figure out why the icons are all mixed up...
Is there anyway to alphabetize the icons in the start menu?
I have a bunch of games loaded in a games folder and it's all mixed up, any ideas?
I tried searching the site and even googled it and all I came up with was a registry edit, but I don't have the key they say to edit.
I even tried deleting the folder and putting the icons back one at a time, in alphabetical order, but they still end up mixxed. ??
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Thanks.
I did search the forum, and I googled it... I'm new to this forum, but not computers or the internet, I know how to search, been doing it since 1988.
I posted this question in the Q&A thread, but it was ignored, so I posted in the general forum.
Sorry If I offended you, but I never received a response to my question, I figured somebody else here was experiencing the same problem, maybe not.
rjack88 said:
I did search the forum, and I googled it... I'm new to this forum, but not computers or the internet, I know how to search, been doing it since 1988.
I posted this question in the Q&A thread, but it was ignored, so I posted in the general forum.
Sorry If I offended you, but I never received a response to my question, I figured somebody else here was experiencing the same problem, maybe not.
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It isn't a matter of me being offended, I am (as well as others) trying to keep some order in the forums. I do know that sometimes questions in the Q&A don't get answered right away, but if someone from the Q&A team (or other members out there) know the answer, they will reply. Maybe the reason why your question wasn't answered is because no one really knows the answer (or has bothered looking into it). You getting annoyed at the way the forums are handled does not give you the right to say "screw it, I'm opening a thread(s) anyways". On top of that, remember that not a single member in this site is forced to give you an answer. We all do it out of trying to help each other out since we are a community.
All of us have to abide by the site's rules.
Last but not least, this is a General Question (like you stated earlier) and not a device specific question. All I am saying in my previous post is "please follow the rules". If you searched earlier and posted the right questions in the right places, then either be patient or pm someone. Most of us are happy to help.
Anyways, now to your question. The way in which WM is designed, the application icons normally get a "first come, first serve" position. In other words, they are placed in chronological order of installation (at least in "Program Files"). I do not know if there is a way to organize the WM menus so that they will show apps in alphabetical order.
What you can do is look for a launcher or a replacement for the Program Folders (look in the Dev and Hacking sections for these). These normally organize the icons alphabetically and they are shown in a list format rather than a grid. I do agree with you though, it is pretty disorganized.... but then again M$ doesn't really care about the alphabet
Hope this helps...
rjack88 said:
I've been searching for days now, and can't seem to figure out why the icons are all mixed up...
Is there anyway to alphabetize the icons in the start menu?
I have a bunch of games loaded in a games folder and it's all mixed up, any ideas?
I tried searching the site and even googled it and all I came up with was a registry edit, but I don't have the key they say to edit.
I even tried deleting the folder and putting the icons back one at a time, in alphabetical order, but they still end up mixxed. ??
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I recently had this issue with the new AT&T Fuze ROM. Check around in your PROVXML files for anything similar to the code below. Note: This example code is from an AT&T ROM, but you may find something similar. If you do, delete it, and everything will return to standard Alphabetical order.
Code:
<!--334.08_Program menu order-->
<characteristic type="Registry">
<characteristic type="HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Shell\StartMenu">
<parm name="order" datatype="multiplestring" value="MEdia Net Home.lnkAT&T MallAT&T MusicGames & AppsMessagingAT&T GPSAlbum.lnkActiveSync.lnkToolsCellular Video.lnkWindows Media.lnkPush to Talk.lnkOpera Browser.lnkInternet Sharing.lnk" />
</characteristic>
</characteristic>
egzthunder1 said:
Anyways, now to your question. The way in which WM is designed, the application icons normally get a "first come, first serve" position. In other words, they are placed in chronological order of installation (at least in "Program Files"). I do not know if there is a way to organize the WM menus so that they will show apps in alphabetical order.
What you can do is look for a launcher or a replacement for the Program Folders (look in the Dev and Hacking sections for these). These normally organize the icons alphabetically and they are shown in a list format rather than a grid. I do agree with you though, it is pretty disorganized.... but then again M$ doesn't really care about the alphabet
Hope this helps...
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I figured that was the case, so I deleted all the icons in the folder, then copied them back from my PC, in alphabetical order, and they still ended up scrambled, M$ blows.
egzthunder1, you are f*cking idiot :/ i hate people like you :/ look. how loong it takes you to write that kind of sh*t? If you don't know the answer, don't write anything. If you want to make some new posts, there is off-topic thread. Everyone, at the beggining, is a begginer! It's not his guilt, so help him if u can, but don't do that sh*t :/ what a stupid country :/ & what a f*cking pommy :/ i'm proud i'm from PL
In WM6.5, you have option "move to the top" in start menu, if u tap and hold on icon, so u can sort all your icons, one by one.
Also you can use other launchers, which are more configure able.
btw sorry for bad english
MOD EDIT: The profanity is not needed. First warning... next step is a 3 day vacation.
I fugured it out...
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Security\Shell\StartInfo\Start\Games
That's the folder I put all the games in, and inside that registry key was a bunch of .lnk entries corresponding to the games I had installed, each key had a rank, so I took the largest number of the key, and put that on the first icon, then in alphabetical order I changed the rank of each of the .lnk keys, decreasing by one as I went down the list, soft boot, now the folder is exactly how I wanted it.
Thanks
weteran said:
egzthunder1, you are f*cking idiot :/ i hate people like you :/ look. how loong it takes you to write that kind of sh*t? If you don't know the answer, don't write anything. If you want to make some new posts, there is off-topic thread. Everyone, at the beggining, is a begginer! It's not his guilt, so help him if u can, but don't do that sh*t :/ what a stupid country :/ & what a f*cking pommy :/ i'm proud i'm from PL
In WM6.5, you have option "move to the top" in start menu, if u tap and hold on icon, so u can sort all your icons, one by one.
Also you can use other launchers, which are more configure able.
btw sorry for bad english
MOD EDIT: The profanity is not needed. First warning... next step is a 3 day vacation.
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Let's watch the personal attacks. Regardless of how you feel about egzthunder1 reply, there is no place for your post either. It serves no purpose other then to incite a fight.
While egzthunder1 could have said what he did in a couple different ways, he is not wrong in pointing members (new OR old) to the rules of XDA-Developers. He did not berate the OP in any way; he simply informed him of the policies in place here that require a member (again, new OR old) to search prior to posting in an existing thread, or creating a new one.
Q&A sections are popping up in just about every forum because of an experiment done in the Raphael section that was a complete success. In case you may have missed it, the forum rules have recently been updated. I quote:
Flar said:
1. Search before posting
Use one of our search functions before posting, whether you have a question or something new to share, it's very likely someone already asked that question or shared that news.
2. Be polite and respect your fellow xda-dev user.
There is no need for cursing, flaming, racism or personal attacks. There are a lot of different nationalities on this forum all with different cultures, this means that no matter what you're like, you'll have to adjust to people that are most definitely not like you. It will gain you a lot of respect if you help to keep the peace. It's disrespectful and therefore not permitted to create Alias Member names in an attempt to deceive others.
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So let's keep it clean going forward. If you have an issue with a member, take it to PM, or contact any of the moderators.
Thank you,
NATF
NotATreoFan, i don't think that it's wrong, what he wrote, but it's matter of moderators and admins to worry about such things. thats all from me ;]
weteran said:
NotATreoFan, i don't think that it's wrong, what he wrote, but it's matter of moderators and admins to worry about such things. thats all from me ;]
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@weteran,
While I don't necessarily appreciate the insults, particularly considering that I have not offended you (or even talked to you), I will say that if I have spoken badly in any manner, then point me at it and I will gladly apologize to the OP for my mistake. However, if I didn't, then why do you insult me?
I am not going to start a discussion with you (or a flame war). While it is true that I don't always know all the answers, at least I try to help or point people in the right direction to solve their problems. I do this because I love this community and its members and I have been helped countless times, so really it is my way of giving back.
@NATF,
Since the OP seems to have solved his issue, do you think that you could close this thread to keep it from growing needlessly? Thanks for your words
Issue resolved, closing thread.