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[q] hspa+ speeds

I'm in Dallas where hspa + is already available, but using three speed test app the fastest download speed I've been able to get is about 2.5 mbs.
I just got the mytouch, but this seems to be slower than what I've seen reported. Anyone having similar issues, or know of a possible fix in the settings?
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i wish the mt4g had a icon for 4g. i tried it in ontario where they claim to have 4g, but was only able to get a max download/upload speed of 3/2mb.

Same in Houston. 3meg is the fastest I've been able to get
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Bummer, I was hoping it was just my phone. How the heck did t-mobile get the fastest network award? Oh well.
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I get 6megs down here in Miami.
Constant speed is between 4-5 Mbps.
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I've been getting 2-3 Mbps tops in Boston, a supposed HSPA+ city, though I haven't tried all over town or in Cambridge. But I was in Chicago last week and topped 7 Mbps in one location. So I just think it varies widely with exact location. Probably all it takes to call a city HSPA+ is a few cell towers with peak theoretical speeds of 14 or 21 Mbps or whatever.
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Well, seems it' still not quite up to snuff in Houston. Best I've been able to get is 3.94 Mbps down (I saw that kind of speed on my 3g Vibrant).
After some phone calls and other investigations, I am thinking that their "4g" network isn't as all encompassing as the coverage map shows.
Accessing the testing menu, I can see that I am on either UMTS or HSDPA network, both of which are 3g (according to Tmo tech support).
So, just to make sure my phone wasn't the problem (was already refreshed on the network a couple of time by tech support and even did a master reset) I went down to a Tmo store that was shown to be in 4G coverage area and checked out a MT4G and G2. Neither of them showed connection to HSPA ot HSPA+.
So, dissappointing for sure, but I guess the phone was free (replaced my Vibrant) I can't complain.

You can call tech care with your speed test results and we submit a ticket to have engineers check it out. It's at least worth a try.
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You can call tech care with your speed test results and we submit a ticket to have engineers check it out. It's at least worth a try.
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Contacted tech support this morning and they are supposed to check out the problem in a wide area.
My wife gets her MT4G Wednesday, so I will have another phone to go by. Obviously if hers sees the HSPA/HSPA+ network and mine doesn't I'll know it's my phone or a setting of some sort within.
I guess it just bugs me since the MYT4G and G2 I checked out also display 3g network connectivity in what is supposed to be 4g coverage area.

I'm in Salt Lake City where the coverage map shows 4g. I have gotten 3 to 4 Mbps speeds before 5 am. However, during the day, I'm getting around 2 mbps or less. My big problem is the coverage. When it drops from H to E, the browsing locks up. It:s like I get 3/4G or nothing. Has anyone else experienced this?
My AT&T Captivate runs almost as fast on 3G networks during the day, but it even gets just under 200 kbps on E. What gives? One of my employees has the MT4G also and find that E doesn't work either.
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I live in Irving, my house i get around 5-6 mbps

renster721 said:
I'm in Dallas where hspa + is already available, but using three speed test app the fastest download speed I've been able to get is about 2.5 mbs.
I just got the mytouch, but this seems to be slower than what I've seen reported. Anyone having similar issues, or know of a possible fix in the settings?
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See my post here, also make note of the bolded section as that may apply to you:
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Going through the build.prop files, I notice in all of the CM builds, that the throughput settings seem to be inaccurate. I can only assume this is because all phones they build for aren't HSPA+ compatible. I'm no expert (as wikipedia is my source here) but according to T-Mobile's HSPA+ specs, we're to achieve up to 21mbps download and 5.7mbps upload on their network. In the build.prop files for the MT4G, our ro.ril.hsdpa.category is set to 8. According to Wikipedia, this category should be set to 14 and at a minimum 10. I say 10 because i'm quite unsure of the MT4G's radio capability and documents I've read seem to suggest the G2 (similar to MT4G) is only capable of max download speeds of 14.4 mbps (which is category 10). However, setting category 14 doesn't seem to impede download speeds, so I set mine to that- just in case. On the flip-side, the ro.ril.hsupa.category is set at 6, which seems to be correct in supporting our max theoretical upload speeds of 5.7mbps. There are other factors that have to be considered as well, such as how many users are connected to a tower at any given time. HSDPA/HSPA+ is a shared data-link, much like your home internet connections. At home, I average between 2 and 4mbps downloads. There are times (usually REALLY late at night or early in the morning) where i've seen 8mbps and once 11mbps download speeds. I'm not quite sure I would have seen these speeds with my ro.ril.hsdpa.category set to 8 as it is in CM because that would indicate a cap in download speeds of 7.2mbps.
Then again, I could be completely wrong and none of this means anything. Just food for thought.
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I also live in Dallas, but I commute 60 miles a day (roundtrip) and test all over the place. DFW Airport is supposed to be a HSPA+ hotbed. True to form, I get better speeds there and in Grapevine than most other places (with the exception of Frisco at times).

Typically i'm around 5Mbps i've maxed out @ 8.4Mbps down.
Cincinnati Ohio here

Christopher3712 said:
See my post here, also make note of the bolded section as that may apply to you:
I also live in Dallas, but I commute 60 miles a day (roundtrip) and test all over the place. DFW Airport is supposed to be a HSPA+ hotbed. True to form, I get better speeds there and in Grapevine than most other places (with the exception of Frisco at times).
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Hm interesting, thanks for the post and the tip. Have you been able to test your dl/ul speed without the prop modification?
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neidlinger said:
Typically i'm around 5Mbps i've maxed out @ 8.4Mbps down.
Cincinnati Ohio here
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What part of cincy are you in? Where about do you test? I currently have the mytouch 4g on cincinnati bell. I tested an employees tmobile sim card at work and only got 3.4 not too good. Average was barely 1.2mbps or so. CBW I typically get around 2.8 plus at work and 2.3 at home.
Let me know about your area , thanks

I see on avg. 10MBp/s here in Phoenix,AZ.
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I wish I had the luxuary of complaing about 3mbps speeds lol, I live in Minneapolis... I don't ever really get into the 2.xxx+ Usually at about 1mbps..lol.

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NYC Area

I went to a Tmo store and asked where the closest 4g tower is located.. He told me.. I was within 30 feet of it and only pulled like 1.3.. kind of disappointing..
I live in orlando.. and we are covered by 4g.. so they say..
at my house we only get Edge or G .. not even 3 g.. it is horrible..

bonez537 said:
I went to a Tmo store and asked where the closest 4g tower is located.. He told me.. I was within 30 feet of it and only pulled like 1.3.. kind of disappointing..
I live in orlando.. and we are covered by 4g.. so they say..
at my house we only get Edge or G .. not even 3 g.. it is horrible..
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Just so you know just BC the tower is within 30 feet doesn't mean its faster. Actually it will probably be slower; think of the tower as just the placeholder the signal is focused outward and doesn't beam down beside it BC usually nothing is right under it. When I had Verizon there was a tower on my roof at my apt but I had no signal directly below.
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AT&T Data Speeds in NYC

I am a resident of NYC and an AT&T subscriber, currently using the Samsung Galaxy S3. LTE coverage in NYC is excellent, and I typically get 25-50 Mbps downstream, depending on the area. However, I've always been a fan of the Nexus line, so I ordered the Nexus 4 from the Play Store when they became available again a couple of days ago. Here's my question: how are AT&T's HSPA+ speeds in NYC? I'm well aware that the N4 is not LTE-enabled (the LTE Band 4 hack will not work in NYC, since AT&T runs LTE on the 700 mHz frequency here), so I'm concerned with going back to slower speeds.
LTE has really spoiled me, to the point where I would be willing (albeit reluctantly) to forgo the untainted Android experience and slow updates if data speeds will be slow.

Turn off LTE and then test your speeds. You will have your answer.
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kgbkny said:
I am a resident of NYC and an AT&T subscriber, currently using the Samsung Galaxy S3. LTE coverage in NYC is excellent, and I typically get 25-50 Mbps downstream, depending on the area. However, I've always been a fan of the Nexus line, so I ordered the Nexus 4 from the Play Store when they became available again a couple of days ago. Here's my question: how are AT&T's HSPA+ speeds in NYC? I'm well aware that the N4 is not LTE-enabled (the LTE Band 4 hack will not work in NYC, since AT&T runs LTE on the 700 mHz frequency here), so I'm concerned with going back to slower speeds.
LTE has really spoiled me, to the point where I would be willing (albeit reluctantly) to forgo the untainted Android experience and slow updates if data speeds will be slow.
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I was curious about this myself. I am in Queens on T-Mobile (out of contract) and get 20 Mbps down and 2.5 Mbps up (faster than TWC).
If T-Mobile is an option, it's worth it! As for AT&T, I have only seen numbers for Straight Talk (via AT&T) and they are not good (less than 10 down).

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Turn off LTE and then test your speeds. You will have your answer.
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This.
You can easily turn off your LTE and test out hspa.
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AT&T's GS3 doesn't have the toggle option to disable LTE. From what I understand, AT&T has also disabled the dialer code to turn off LTE. I'll look into it a bit further.

SpookyTunes said:
I was curious about this myself. I am in Queens on T-Mobile (out of contract) and get 20 Mbps down and 2.5 Mbps up (faster than TWC).
If T-Mobile is an option, it's worth it! As for AT&T, I have only seen numbers for Straight Talk (via AT&T) and they are not good (less than 10 down).
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Unfortunately, T-Mobile is not an option for me, as the data speeds top out at 0.5 Mbps downstream in my area (Bensonhurst). I am actually a former T-Mo subscriber who ended up leaving for AT&T. I get an average of 20-25 Mbps on LTE inside my apartment (up to 50 Mbps outside), so the Nexus 4 would really have to impress me to use it as a daily driver.

[Q] Nexus 4 LTE not strong?

I got a Nexus 4 after trading away my Blackberry Z10 which I have been using for the past year or so and I rooted it yesterday and flashed a couple of LTE-capable radio zips. Unfortunately, the best modem only shows 2 bars out of 4 when on 4G LTE when I am indoors and at most only 3 out of 4 bars when I am outside.
I did a speedtest outdoors and I am only getting 10-15 mbps at most which is not significantly different from what I got with just HSPA+. I used to own a Motorola Atrix HD LTE and I got speeds of over 20 mbps on that phone before it got stolen (similarly with my Blackberry z10).
Does anyone know if this is normal for the device? Or is it just my network is bad?
Thanks.

Androiddeveloper1991 said:
I got a Nexus 4 after trading away my Blackberry Z10 which I have been using for the past year or so and I rooted it yesterday and flashed a couple of LTE-capable radio zips. Unfortunately, the best modem only shows 2 bars out of 4 when on 4G LTE when I am indoors and at most only 3 out of 4 bars when I am outside.
I did a speedtest outdoors and I am only getting 10-15 mbps at most which is not significantly different from what I got with just HSPA+. I used to own a Motorola Atrix HD LTE and I got speeds of over 20 mbps on that phone before it got stolen (similarly with my Blackberry z10).
Does anyone know if this is normal for the device? Or is it just my network is bad?
Thanks.
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The bars are not mobile data. That's your voice side. The E, 3g, H, H+ etc is your mobile data.
LTE on these things is only band 4 and is not officially sanctioned. If your carrier doesn't use band 4 for LTE, you'll never see it.

Are you a T-Mobile customer?

i constantly get 62mbps download speeds in my area,lte. your data speed is influenced by how busy the network is, and how far from the tower you are on. oh, and btw, i get hspa+ speed around 40-41mbps download. just because your h/h+ speeds are similar to your lte, it means nothing. it means thats the results of how busy your network is and how far from you the tower is. there are places that i get higher h+ speeds than lte. but your lte upload speed will almost always be much more than h+.

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i constantly get 62mbps download speeds in my area,lte. your data speed is influenced by how busy the network is, and how far from the tower you are on. oh, and btw, i get hspa+ speed around 40-41mbps download. just because your h/h+ speeds are similar to your lte, it means nothing. it means thats the results of how busy your network is and how far from you the tower is. there are places that i get higher h+ speeds than lte. but your lte upload speed will almost always be much more than h+.
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Now those are some great speeds in my area i get in the 20s - 30s with H+ usually around 10-15 but they are more than enough for what I need.

playya said:
Now those are some great speeds in my area i get in the 20s - 30s with H+ usually around 10-15 but they are more than enough for what I need.
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in my part of southern brooklyn(manhattan beach), it doesnt make any difference which i use for download speed. but for uploads its a huge difference. hspa+ upload speeds of 3-3.5mbps, lte upload speeds of 22mbps. also, i get a full hour more sot on lte than on hspa+

Just curiosity but which lte hybrid modem are everyone using? I cant figure which one 'are the best' like you said OP. Simms22 is absolutly right. Lte connection and speed depends on your local area. There are some people out there who hasnt lte connection at all (like me)

I use the older 33/84 hybrid radio

T-Mobile Speed Tests

I was wondering what type of speeds everybody was getting and whether they noticed worse or improved cell coverage. These are a few speedtests I ran in my area while I was out. Cell service seems just as good as before but would love for them to turn on band 12 so I can convince coworkers to switch.

Pretty good speeds....

i wish i was getting speeds in the 60 mbps range.

Seeing good speeds in midtown Atlanta.

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Seeing good speeds in midtown Atlanta.
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WOW 85 Mb down? I wish it was that fast here in Norcross. Here it's around 20Mb/s down.

Oh no.

Speeds faster after update. But I couldn't complain then or now I've got great speeds...lol
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I'm getting way better signal.
This one is from this morning after the update.
The second one, I included WiFi because, I get 30 more megs download speed compared to my LG G3, it's so weird.
I'm also able to get 4G inside my house now where's to with my LG g3 I was only getting a 2 G signal.
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They probably turned on band 2 LTE in your area. The Note supports band 2 and G3 doesn't.

I'm using mine on AT&T and I have a lot better speeds than on my note 3 both cellular and WiFi

After the upgrade speeds are insane. I'm in Houston Texas.

I ask the question why do phone need such crazy speeds lol

20 or so. Not too happy about it either.

Is band 2 faster than band 4? Is it one or the other or does the phone pair them together?
My 6+ (band 2 and 4) gets 35 Mbps while my hotspot (Sierra 313u, band 4) gets 24 Mbps.

Where the crap do you guys live to get such fast wireless speed?I don't even get that on my at home cable internet...
I get 10-20 on my Wi-Fi and 1-5 on my "LTE"...

Are you guys kidding me !. the top speed I have experienced is around 5mbps !! __ india

If you post speeds, please post location also. I'm going to switch to T-Mobile from Sprint and would like to see coverage.

North Columbus Ohio area . I was on sprint for 16 years. . Now I am happy.
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My coverage and speeds are very similliar to my GS5 so I am pleased . I am in the St.Louis Area . I max out at around 60 Mbps and average 30 Mbps which is more than good enough considering I use no more than 1 to 2 GB a month since Im on wifi 90% of the time.

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Is band 2 faster than band 4? Is it one or the other or does the phone pair them together?
My 6+ (band 2 and 4) gets 35 Mbps while my hotspot (Sierra 313u, band 4) gets 24 Mbps.
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do you mean carrier aggregation?

Tmo launched LTA, Post your speed tests

News article: http://bgr.com/2014/12/15/t-mobile-wideband-lte-new-york-city-announcement/
Well ill go first
http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/a/1085183484 **
Damn messed up the title lol. If a mod could change that to LTE-A

So that is in PA
BAD ASS NOTE 4

Been hitting 60+ in sw Houston area. 80 max. But consistently 30+ easily the last few days. Used to be 15-30 maxing out out at 40.

Southeast Hou. Im at 13-14

Honolulu here. 34mb DL. 12MB UL.

I live in Anaheim California which is on the list but am only getting 28.33 Download & 3.50 Upload, no difference from what I was getting when the Note 4 first came out

i would think this would help more with consistent speeds vs everyone getting higher speeds. Im sure if you are connected to the wideband lte you would see higher speeds during non peak hrs but i can definitely tell the difference in peak hours vs non peak hrs in ABQ NM. Ive seen as low as less than 1mbps down due to congestion and no, i wasnt throttled. Around 11pm, my speeds would jump up. It basically forced me to use my wifi at home due to such low speeds. Hopefully the wideband increase will help clear up congestion as the faster people load/download their data...the faster they can get through the pipeline allowing for a smoother flow. Considering youtube would stop qrtr way through the video due to buffering... i would hope this would fix some of those types of issues.

How do we know we are using LTA? Do you get a symbol on the phone? If so what does it look like? Screenshot maybe?

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How do we know we are using LTA? Do you get a symbol on the phone? If so what does it look like? Screenshot maybe?
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This is what I'd like to know as well. According to "LTE Discovery" I'm on Band 4 right now. The linked page shows that my city should be LTE-A active. My speeds haven't changed even a little. Mid-teens down, a handful up.

I was in Boston last week and was getting 70 mb down and 26 mb up.
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Getting 62/22 in Metro Detroit on Band 4.

66 down and 27 up in bronx, new york. Will check the city when I get back to work Saturday. They should be faster there.
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In Indianapolis, lte has stopped yesterday morning. Maybe they are updating our network. Can't wait.

The highest i got in Queens NY was 67/22 and 50/23 in Long Island.
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Just type *#0011# in the dialer. When it is conection to band 12 you are on wideband.
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Do you have to update modems or something to get it? I've been rooted since new and never took any of the updates.
I haven't seen anything other than band 4 locally.
This is the best I've done in town, but only the downtown area gets 4 bars. I'm usually 2 or less around most of the town.. This is versus what I typically get around my house.

When you go into the service menu by dialing *#0011# on the first line you will see Band 4 BW: 15MHz. When you have a connection of 15, or 20MHz you are using wide band lte.

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When you go into the service menu by dialing *#0011# on the first line you will see Band 4 BW: 15MHz. When you have a connection of 15, or 20MHz you are using wide band lte.
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This is correct. This is like a 4 lane highway instead of a single lane. This also includes the lowband spectrum 700mhz it baught from Verizon which is band 12. Band 12 is what travels far and through buildings. You might even get signal in an elevator because of it.
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yep, same here in chicago land, getting 40 down and 20 up, in the basement of my house!