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Problems. Unique or widespread?

Hi Folks,
I've been enjoying my Nexus S but I've had a few problems so far and I wanted to see if they were singular problems or more widespread, so if you don't mind indulging me?
Signal - I've been having all manner of fluctuation with the signal. My Wife's Desire Z, which is also on Orange, is showing a far better reception in all areas, both indoors and out. I've even had a few total drop-outs, where I've had no signal at all, even though my old N900 and the Missus' phone are still showing at least 2 bars.
Wi-Fi - I've found the Wi-Fi signal to be awful. Again, other devices in the household are showing full bars yet the Nexus is showing 1. It's so bad that if I sit next to the router to get full signal, if I turn the device to face away I drop down to 1 or 2 bars. This isn't normal, surely?
Camera - Everything's blurry. Even the faintest hint of movement from a subject and the whole image is a mass of blur. Which is annoying to say the least.
App Issue - This is an extension of the signal problem really. When I go into a game, say, Angry Birds or Squibble, when I come out of the game I have no signal, and it doesn't come back for about 4-5 minutes.
What are your views?
Cheers and Merry Christmas,

I have none of the issues you seem to have. Might want to get it replaced
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My only issue is my cell reception, but that's because T-Mobile sucks in my area.
Everything else is fine.

My WiFi signals do the same thing, but reception remains great. Are you actually losing connection speed or no? Because I checked and I'm not.

I don't have any of those issues. Only issue I have is that I still can't send picture messages to my friends on AT&T

Thanks for your responses people.
I don't think I'm losing speed with the wifi issue, l but I haven't checked if I'm honest (I've been up to my eyeballs in turkey ).
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Wifi seems pretty strong here, no complaints at all. Have yet to put in a similar though so can't comment on cellular signal. Camera wise, I think its the norm... any movement with these sensors screws the picture totally. If you pics are blurred when the subject is stationary, worry.

I did a still pic side by side comparison and for some reason the nexus s was significantly more blurry than the nexus one, both shots same object sitting still. Prob just a software bug as the nexus s camera is very good in general.
For cellular signal, other people reported the same weak performance with the nexus s. My question is, do you actually compare the dBm or just the bars? Cause each company displays bars on a different range, so the only way really is to compare dBm vs dBm on each device.
There have been reports of weak signal and dropped data connection though.

past 2 days, I'm having an issue w/my nexus The screen won't tilt sideways when txt messaging, fb, watching youtube, etc.. The problem is temporary but a hindrance..also got a dead battery charger. I'm not the type to return stuff but might need to, I just love my nexus and the screen quality..hopefully the replacement won't have any screen issues like some ppl have complained.

I seem to have issues with my back button being no-where near as sensitive or responsive as the other buttons...anyone else?
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I wondered about this too but I now think its just the way I'm hitting it as I'm nit used to it being where it is. Could that be it?

My wifi connection is poor as well depending on the type of router it seems
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There are a slew of issues with Gingerbread, of which the most frustrating to me are: ringtone and other alarm tones will randomly change; new photographs will disappear in the gallery; sometimes typing is still laggy/unresponsive.
I reported the disappearing photos to Google here: http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=13419 If anyone else is having this issue, please visit the link and star it to bring more attention to it.
In general, I'm disappointed these bugs exist.

With regards to Wifi, i found that the router was issuing 4 ip addresses to my phone via DHCP, and my phone was not getting good data streams, it kept cutting out. So i went to the router and set up static DHCP based on its mac address (you can set this up via LAN services on your router) This fixed my wifi problem
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I had the exact same issue with the back button. It was much less sensitive compared to the others and I had to click it quite hard to work. Its definitely a hardware mulfunction in a small percentage of phones. I ended up replacing the phone and now its fine.
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I seem to have issues with my back button being no-where near as sensitive or responsive as the other buttons...anyone else?
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Thanks for all the feedback people. It's been a great help. I've made a few changes so here's hoping I get some improvement.
If not it's going back to CPW!

Oh well, a day on and things still aren't improved.
Looks like its back to stock and back to the shop.
I'm wholly disappointed.

nexuss wifi problem .

I bought a nexus s. I have problems on the wifi signal, a bit weak signal, you may increase any program or replace it with a wifi chip more powerful?
and a bit of time looking but have not found anything, can someone help me.
thanks

Its a known issue with the nexus s. I've read from several sources that its caused by a low power wifi chip used to conserve battery.
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it's not a hardware issue
because the same chip were used in the 3rd generation iPod Touch
i think it's a software problem
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the wifi is terrible for the nexus s. It pisses me off so much! i cant use wifi where i used to be able to with my old iphone 2g

Yes I have the same issue.
This phone is full of problems. I'm sick of it. Still have the iPhone 4 so might switch back to it.
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Try to live with it.
This is one of the weak point of Nexus S, and I hate it because I use my phone mainly for web browsing.
My old HTC Desire has much much better wifi reception.
Oh btw, I don't think the chip can be changed This is hardware issue.
If you cannot live with it, sell and buy another one.
For me, I will keep it because 3G is also good enough at my place. As soon as there is new Nexus, I might switch.
villano1 said:
I bought a nexus s. I have problems on the wifi signal, a bit weak signal, you may increase any program or replace it with a wifi chip more powerful?
and a bit of time looking but have not found anything, can someone help me.
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You can always buy a wifi repeater for around $40 or so.
The wifi on the Nexus S is a bit disappointing, but if you get a repeater it should make your life more bearable

same exact problem, i hope they come out with a fix for this.

So you guys saying NS has the same chip with ipod touches but has less wifi reception for conserve some battery right.?
I am not sure if this make sense to anyone but "WiFi Tether" program has "Transmit Power" option in its options section that you can change the power up to 30 mW(15 dBm). What i am tring to say is if it is possible to play with transmitting powers of the wifi chip why cant they just play with wifi options??

Wifi performance.

I used to own an Atrix and got rid of it because of the Wifi performance and a couple of other minor things. I'm wondering though, if I loaded a custom rom, could it literally improve the Wifi performance?
On my Inspire, the Wifi strength got better when I loaded cm7. Has anyone that's loaded cm7 on their Atrix noticed an improvement in Wifi performance?
I would literally have to hold the Atrix in landscape orientation to pick up signal at work where my iPhone 4 and Inspire can pick it up regularly.
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I'd have to say that your particular phone had a problem. Mine has awesome wifi strength. Way better than my Tilt2 or iPhone 3GS....and way faster since it's "n".

Maybe I should use the term range not performance.
I had 3 different Atrix's and they had the same range and were all dead in the same spots.
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Haven't noticed a difference in roms and wifi performance....
My 3gs hasvway better range then ny ATRIX ... so sad.
Still ... its not an issue since I have pretty good 3g coverage in my area.
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Yes, unfortunately the atrix wifi range isn't that good. I have trouble picking up signal where others do so easily.
I wonder if the antenna is too small... would it be possible to "embed" a wire inside the back cover and connect it to the regular antenna to create a makeshift range extender?
Edit: iI think the phone's radio has influence over wifi reception, but it can only go so far. Might not be 'improveable' as much as we'd like to.

s1mpd1ddy said:
Haven't noticed a difference in roms and wifi performance....
My 3gs hasvway better range then ny ATRIX ... so sad.
Still ... its not an issue since I have pretty good 3g coverage in my area.
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Very sad yes. I work in a lead lined building and have no service whatsoever, I completely rely on Wifi.
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That'd be your particular device's problem. Atrix got best wifi performance IMHO. Very fast and responsive. SpeedTest.net results shows that with the wifi at my home, my XT720 returns a speed of 7~8 Mbps where Atrix always returns 12~16 Mbps of speed.

I'd say the reduction in range is due to the improvement in speed.
My Atrix get's my wifi signal about 20m through 4-5 concrete walls, occasionally I've also noticed it get's it through 3 levels in my apartment building, though I don't have anything else to compare it too.

seh6183 said:
Maybe I should use the term range not performance.
I had 3 different Atrix's and they had the same range and were all dead in the same spots.
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I doubt a ROM will significantly improve the wifi range on the Atrix, more of hardware thing IMO.
Same behavior for me at work too. My old BB 8900 can hold onto the weak wifi signal (around 80-90dbm) better than my Atrix. If I run too much data on wifi on the Atrix, the wifi will throw too many errors and disconnect. I ran logcat to see all of the fun stuff going on to figure this out.
Fortunately work is upgrading the wireless network soon .

There has been several radio firmware packages released since you got rid of yours I think. The latest AT&T one (1.77.30P) definitelly made things better all around for me.
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beatphreek said:
There has been several radio firmware packages released since you got rid of yours I think. The latest AT&T one (1.77.30P) definitelly made things better all around for me.
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I wish there was a way to test this without going out and buying a phone.
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seh6183 said:
I wish there was a way to test this without going out and buying a phone.
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The new radio helps the range a little vs the radio in 2.2.2 for me. The wifi disconnects less frequently, but it still disconnects from time to time. If you rely solely on wifi it's not worth it IMO.

My wifi is awesome and all I have are access to g routers. Speed and distance.
I voided my warranty and your mum.

gnahc79 said:
The new radio helps the range a little vs the radio in 2.2.2 for me. The wifi disconnects less frequently, but it still disconnects from time to time. If you rely solely on wifi it's not worth it IMO.
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I agree. Thank you for the info.
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How is the Nexus 7 wifi?

I have an htc inspire 4g and it barerly works on wifi if at all in the location i would most want to use it in. My ps3/xbox 360/netbook all work fine on wifi in the same exact location. Does the nexus 7 have a good built in wifi?

sportscrazed2 said:
I have an htc inspire 4g and it barerly works on wifi if at all in the location i would most want to use it in. My ps3/xbox 360/netbook all work fine on wifi in the same exact location. Does the nexus 7 have a good built in wifi?
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I've never had any issues. !!
Snappy and no connection problems to date !

Sat side by side connected to the same router My ONE X has 2 bars My Nexus 7 32gb has 4

I can tell it's way stronger than my gnex

Much stronger than my Nexus S. However my phone is two years old so it's possible quality has dropped since then.
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I can tell it's way stronger than my gnex
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I agree with that. My nexus has most of the time 4 or 5 bars, whereas my gnex has 2 or 3.

WiFi worked fine for me. Just note that it doesn't support 5GHz

Works good for me
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Works very well. Actually picks up the Hotel wireless across the street from the light rail station I use.
I use it at home streaming Hulu+ while standing in front of the microwave popping popcorn.
Not sure what the huge deal is moving to "dual band" with 5GHz to get away from the interference I don't seem to be encountering. Actually I do, dual band with the proper client yields the potential to have a much faster wireless connection (600Mbps) versus the peak theoretical with single band 2.4Ghz (300Mhz).
If I'm not getting the interference in busy downtown Seattle, where is it exactly?

Wifi has been great, but I have noticed once I rooted and put a custom kernel on that signal was not as good as on stock. Just would notice I would lose signal in spots at home when I never used to.

I picked up a N7 yesterday, no complaints yet. I agree the Wi-Fi connection is more stable than my GalNex.

thanks everyone for the responses.

Nexus 7 has wifi issues
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I'm about to return mine because of wifi issues. It was really fast at browsing a week ago when I got it but now it's a slug browsing the net. Even after a factory reset same slow problem browsing. The apps themselves were fine just web surfing. Every page I visit takes 10-20 seconds to load on chrome and Firefox . My ipad and iPhone does it in 1-2 seconds using the same darn wifi. Many resets and same slug issues. I never modded or anything. Very weird.
Nexus 32 GB

Have my iPad 3rd gen same room and have full bars and nexus has 2 or 3 not bad at all.
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N7 probably has the best wifi of any device I've owned.

well i bought the thing based on web reviews about the wifi and price. my motodroid has horrible wifi problems and this thing has never dropped my connection in the few months of owning.

My experience is that the Nexus 7 got a pretty decent range on the wifi antenna. When it comes to speed my GNexus is pretty much about 2-3 times as fast. Easily seen when updating large apps on Play Store.
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Android P - WiFi Range Issues

Hi All-
I updated to the Android Pie Official release last night and this morning my WiFi range is now non existent. When I am in the same room as the router everything is perfect but I go in to a different room in my tiny apartment it can no longer connect. I am only like 25 feet from the router and it says signal is poor or can't connect at all. Never had this issue with Oreo.
Anyone else have this issue or any ideas to fix it? I never tried any of the P Beta releases because I didn't want issues like this...
Thanks in advance for your help!
(FYI I am on rooted stock Pie with Magisk)
PS- Yes I searched but I started a new thread because I only found 2 recurring issues that people discussed are throttling speed issues and other people saying wifi doesn't work entirely. I didn't find anyone discussing range issues...

I had a OnePlus 5. I bought the essential phone on the Prime day and even before using it, flashed Android P beta and now am on Pie official.
I have no idea about Oreo but the WiFi signal is really poor on the essential. My essential phone loses the 5ghz signal in the next room where my OP5 works perfectly fine.

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I had a OnePlus 5. I bought the essential phone on the Prime day and even before using it, flashed Android P beta and now am on Pie official.
I have no idea about Oreo but the WiFi signal is really poor on the essential. My essential phone loses the 5ghz signal in the next room where my OP5 works perfectly fine.
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I don't think it is just an "essential phone" issue it seems to be possibly a Android P issue, because I had the phone for a week or so on Oreo rooted with no wifi range issue.
I also was connected to a 5ghz network. Did connecting to 2.4ghz band work any better for you? I just noticed my issue while getting ready to leave for work this morning and didn't have time to test the 2.4ghz range

hssxda said:
I don't think it is just an "essential phone" issue it seems to be possibly a Android P issue, because I had the phone for a week or so on Oreo rooted with no wifi range issue.
I also was connected to a 5ghz network. Did connecting to 2.4ghz band work any better for you? I just noticed my issue while getting ready to leave for work this morning and didn't have time to test the 2.4ghz range
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The range on 2.4Ghz network is slightly better than 5ghz but still, it's nowhere near to my OP5.
I hope it's an Android P issue and not a hardware issue.

I have noticed the poor/weird signal. Both WiFi and mobile signal are not great. I am 6 feet from my WAP in the same room and have 3 bars as i type this.
I have a AmpliFi mesh network that works well but wonder if this phone is jumping on the 5ghz node and not the mothership.
Mobile signal in my SF flat is weak up front and stronger in the back. My HTC U11+ holds the weak signal where the PH-1 does not.
I got this phone on prime day(and 360 lens and case from Essential for really cheap) to use as a backup/hobby but considering returning phone and selling accessories.
It is not just the signal issue...I have gotten used to a larger phone and the U11+ feels great everytime I return to it. Alas, age.

I have had several times on Pie problems, but then I never tested this on Nougat when I received the phone, I just went straight into the Pie Update.
For me, several times, I click Wifi on and it shows connecting for the longest time sitting next to the router, then when it connectes it says no internet.
I've only played with the wifi a few times, and most of the time it gave me problems connecting.
I have other phone issues, so I've got a new phone replacement on the way, and I'll leave this on Nougat that it comes with and try to see if I can get an Oreo update and leave it on that, and see if it works out better.

supercfc said:
I had a OnePlus 5. I bought the essential phone on the Prime day and even before using it, flashed Android P beta and now am on Pie official.
I have no idea about Oreo but the WiFi signal is really poor on the essential. My essential phone loses the 5ghz signal in the next room where my OP5 works perfectly fine.
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I think it comes with oreo, does it not?

@hssxda I just received my phone from an online order with Nougat...
I was hoping it was coming with Oreo.
Hmm

I seriously thought this phone didn't support 5ghz until now, when I first set it up few days ago, my 5G network didn't show up at all. I felt weird that 'flagship' phone didn't support 5ghz, but didn't bother checking.
Oh well, 2.4 it is, at least downloading Pie over 2.4 was really fast where 5 wasn't even seen.

DoR3M3 said:
@hssxda I just received my phone from an online order with Nougat...
I was hoping it was coming with Oreo.
Hmm
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Tbh I don't recall what mine came with but I definitely updated to the July oreo before pie came out and my wifi was fine. I believe the Ota updates are incremental so you may be able to just update to oreo if you wish but I'm not positive

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Tbh I don't recall what mine came with but I dentek updated to the July oreo before pie came out and my wifi was fine. I believe the Ota updates are incremental so you may be able to just update to oreo if you wish but I'm not positive
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Nope, just Nougat to Pie is all there is...
I should just give into having some Pie to eat I guess! LOL
Isn't newer always suppose to be better... LMAO

Working fine here. 5ghz connects all the time when in range. Google WiFi mesh, and a sophos network at work. Signal and speed is fine.

Same here, no issues with 5Ghz at all. You might try factory resetting the phone, always fixes things for me.

A_Pac1 said:
Same here, no issues with 5Ghz at all. You might try factory resetting the phone, always fixes things for me.
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that would be a huge PITA if I had to do that

I reported this to Google's issue tracker, if people are experiencing the same issue I encourage you to comment over there in order to ensure this is addressed.
https://issuetracker.google.com/issues/112496368

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I got this phone on prime day(and 360 lens and case from Essential for really cheap) to use as a backup/hobby but considering returning phone and selling accessories.
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same.
but at the same time, I have to remind myself that I only paid $250 for this...

The radios overall on this phone are the weakest radios I have ever seen in a flagship device, and I have owned to many! With that said, my issue was reverse, I had extremely low strength to no signal on 5ghz networks on Oreo June build, as well as weird throttling issues. Cell service was extremely bad as well.
With the Pie update, the phone is usable, including the 5Ghz WiFi network, but again, it is the weakest signal I have ever seen from my router. I have had this tested on a Note 8, Huawei Mate 10 Pro, HTC U12+ and Essential PH1. Hoping it's a software fix!
P.S. No amount of factory resetting saved me ...

I just got back from a cross-country road trip that I've taken many times before with many other devices, and while the PH-1 was a BIT weaker in a few spots it was acceptably good -- and not materially worse than the V20 that I was using just before this device (which, as phones go, is in the "good but not excellent" RF category.)
I find it acceptable -- WiFi is IMHO weaker than cell on this device, but it's not particularly bad.....

rickymz said:
I seriously thought this phone didn't support 5ghz until now, when I first set it up few days ago, my 5G network didn't show up at all. I felt weird that 'flagship' phone didn't support 5ghz, but didn't bother checking.
Oh well, 2.4 it is, at least downloading Pie over 2.4 was really fast where 5 wasn't even seen.
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I've wiped back to stock several times on this device, always notice my 5ghz takes a bit longer to show up on the initial setup for wifi. My 5ghz seems to get better speeds where I am normally setting up my phone, so i tend to wait for it...usually just an extra 20 seconds or something and it pops up

Sent a message to Essential customer support. Expecting a standard boilerplate response of "factory reset the phone" which doesn't apply in my case. Here's my story:
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I purchased a new Essential PH-1 and updated it to the latest release of Android Pie (9, build PPR.180610.091, baseband 2.0.c4-M2.0.5). I did the update to Android Pie beta immediately out of the box, with nothing installed, not even any user configured. It then updated to the Android 9 stable release.
The WiFi on this Essential PH-1 is very unstable on the 5 GHz band. It sporadically drops connection and reconnects. While this might seem like just a nuisance, it's a big problem when streaming videos. Sometimes when WiFi drops, the video resumes streaming from my mobile connection which incurs high charges. I don't always notice this since the video can look like a brief buffering pause when it switches over. It's also an issue when I play online multiplayer games, causing it to drop me out of the game.
This happens frequently on the 5GHz band (on average every 10-30 minutes, but varies a lot). The 2.4 GHz band is more stable but it still drops out on occasion. This looks like a weak antenna in the Essential, as I've done a WiFi scan using WiFi Analyzer app and see the 5GHz reception is extremely poor. My old Nexus 6 sees 8-10 5GHz stations in my condo, whereas the Essential sees 2 (including mine).
My reference point is the Nexus 6 which has no WiFi dropouts. It's rock solid and maintains connection "forever" (I never see it drop WiFi). My router is a Linksys WRT3200ACS with extended range antennas. It has very strong signal strength, I know that's not the issue since 5 other devices have no WiFi dropout issues.