Nexus 4 Camera - Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

From my understanding the Nexus 4 uses a Sony BSI camera which is the same as the iPhone 5, so why do reviewers say the iPhone 5 camera is better despite the same lenses?

Both sensors may be from Sony but that doesn't mean that it's the same model.
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Software can make a big difference

hmmmmm i hope this is the case , but cant wait till it ships

jacklebott said:
Software can make a big difference
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Google better make android 4.x or 5.0 have some good camera software. At least 10x better than its current state. Or at least keep up with the competition
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Atrix's Camera, How to Improve?

hi
We all know that Atrix's camera is one of its down sides.
What are you suggestions to improve quality of photos?
any software, settings, etc?
What settings do you use for your camera?
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I guess downloading other apps is the main way to improve it. Nothing can be done about it's poor light capturing sensor tough.
I like the camera I dunno what your talking about. I find the hdr camera really helps.
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2.3.4 camera is excellent. I have taken my best phone pictures with it ever.
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I like the atrix camera.
on 2.3.4
Just read consumer reports and the Atrix got 3rd for best camera phone. And I think it's got pretty good quality really...
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First of all dont judge the camera by looking at pics on the ATRIX screen, it sucks
Transfer to pc and see
Next thing camera is better on GB
Next best software is LGcamera and not HDR camera
Try it ,it has loads of settings and works really good
Im actually going back to an iPhone 4 because of the camera on my Atrix. Nothing really compares once you you've had an ip4.
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totalimmortal363 said:
Im actually going back to an iPhone 4 because of the camera on my Atrix. Nothing really compares once you you've had an ip4.
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You will miss the 4G and 2 processors though. I know the iphone4 has a good camera.
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totalimmortal363 said:
Im actually going back to an iPhone 4 because of the camera on my Atrix. Nothing really compares once you you've had an ip4.
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why would you switch to THAT phone just because of the camera? lol.
I can't say I see big difference. Maybe your settings not set to widescreen or the largest. I took an awesome pic the other day but lost it in the whole rooting thing by accident but I won't go back to Iphone 4 because of it...besides my son would be p.o.'d if I took my phone back LOL
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Im actually going back to an iPhone 4 because of the camera on my Atrix. Nothing really compares once you you've had an ip4.
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Yep, nothing compares to over saturated pictures from the iphone
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Yep, nothing compares to over saturated pictures from the iphone
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Pretty sure it's well known that the iPhone 4 has one of the best if not the best camera on a phone due to the high quality sensor it has.
I love the atrix and its camera. Maybe because i've never owned an iphone I don't get all the hooplah
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Pretty sure it's well known that the iPhone 4 has one of the best if not the best camera on a phone due to the high quality sensor it has.
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Well its not the best (nokia n8 probably is), its good....for a phone. Honestly though have you never used a decent digital camera before? I would never base a phone purchase (at least at this time) on the camera when you could spend $100 buying a used p&s off ebay that would blow the iphone away for photos. If photography is what u care about buy a cheaper phone and a dslr to go with it.
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Well its not the best (nokia n8 probably is), its good....for a phone. Honestly though have you never used a decent digital camera before? I would never base a phone purchase (at least at this time) on the camera when you could spend $100 buying a used p&s off ebay that would blow the iphone away for photos. If photography is what u care about buy a cheaper phone and a dslr to go with it.
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He didn't mention real cameras. In the world of phone cameras, the iPhone 4 is near the top along with Nokia n8. Of course any stand alone camera will blow away any phone camera.
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You will miss the 4G and 2 processors though. I know the iphone4 has a good camera.
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My iPhone 4 was a lot smoother than any other device I've ever had, Atrix included. Sorry.
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why would you switch to THAT phone just because of the camera? lol.
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Its been the best phone I've ever owned. The most consistent and the fewest issues.
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Im actually going back to an iPhone 4 because of the camera on my Atrix. Nothing really compares once you you've had an ip4.
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Except a real camera, if picture quality is that important to you then buy a camera. The Atrix camera is fine for a phone and not any worse than the iphone imho.

LG Optimus Nexus

So for a while now I've been waiting for a new nexus to come out because my contract is up in December. However its looking more and more that the rumors are true that it will be made by LG and be based off of their flagship optimus g. The specs for the optimus g are beasty but I'm not sure LG can make a high quality phone. How do you guys feel about an lg nexus and do you think you'll buy one?
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I will definitely buy it if its an lg nexus! They always make great hardware but their software is atrocious, but being a nexus that point is moot
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Allegedly, there's gonna be a whole line of 5 nexuses (nexii?), with one by samsung, a minor update to the gnex (1.5 ghz a9 dual core). Another would be the lg optimus g nexus (or nexus g) which as you mentioned would be quad core s4 768p, 2gb ram. Another would be the nexus 5 by htc with 1080p, quad core s4, 2gb ram. The new thing about these is that they will have a customization center where you will have the choice of different themes, some of them being manufacturer themes. So an HTC nexus could run sense.
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Does anyone know if the actual optimus g came out yet? I would like to know if it lives up to its high specs or is just a bust like the g2x.
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Also, does anyone think Sprint will have first crack at any of these Nexii if/when they come out? I want to get a new phone around november, not next year -__-
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Does anyone know if the actual optimus g came out yet? I would like to know if it lives up to its high specs or is just a bust like the g2x.
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Not yet... at least not in america. They are said to be coming here around halloween (at least as of the last report I saw). It is coming to att and sprint.
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Also, does anyone think Sprint will have first crack at any of these Nexii if/when they come out? I want to get a new phone around november, not next year -__-
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Not sure. It looks like sprint and google are getting closer. Although, it looks like tmo is definitely getting it soon since they cancelled the one x + which means there's something better coming (since its probably not bug related because its being released on other carriers worldwide). That doesn't mean sprint can't be soon though. It does surprise me that lg made their optimus g so close too the nexus release. Idk if the nexii would have a coordinated launch either where each are released together worldwide. They may be staggered over the next few months or so.
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mark8503 said:
Does anyone know if the actual optimus g came out yet? I would like to know if it lives up to its high specs or is just a bust like the g2x.
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Phone arena has a review of the at&t one and its got an 8mp camera instead of 13 and gorilla glass 2 on the front and back, all the main specs are the same
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Phone arena has a review of the at&t one and its got an 8mp camera instead of 13 and gorilla glass 2 on the front and back, all the main specs are the same
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The 13mp camera didn't get good reviews.. Nokia Lumia 920, IPhone 5 take the crown
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I saw a link to an article on Facebook and they compared the camera on the iPhone 5 to the one on the 4s and a high end camera. Apparently, the iPhone 5 camera doesn't play well with direct light sources
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out in korea. but it's a mixed reception. a very good phone by lg's standard but the software's still a bit of a downside.
hardware benchmarking beats all the android competition out so far.
but must add, american models always have some kinda variance to the original so they might change a few things. seeing that an lg nexus is coming out at around the same time, seems quite likely too.
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Please continue discussion in upcoming phone thread
Thanks
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[Q] HTC One (M7) or HTC One X +

Hey everybody! I want to know whether buying the developer unlocked M7 from HTC is worth the $649 asking price or is the HTC One X Plus the better option being generally $200 cheaper with its 1GB Ram and 64GB internal memory and quadcore chip? I must admit the non-removable battery has me leaning on a Sammy Note 2 but is there a way to restart these devices without removing the battery for those of us who customize our devices? In other words, from a frozen state or the need to reboot the device, is there an iron clad way to restart the phone in these conditions...and I don't mean give it a dunk or a bat or use to skip on a pond. For those of you who have in your possession a M7...is the hardware living up to the specs? Thanks!
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Hey everybody! I want to know whether buying the developer unlocked M7 from HTC is worth the $649 asking price or is the HTC One X Plus the better option being generally $200 cheaper with its 1GB Ram and 64GB internal memory and quadcore chip? I must admit the non-removable battery has me leaning on a Sammy Note 2 but is there a way to restart these devices without removing the battery for those of us who customize our devices? In other words, from a frozen state or the need to reboot the device, is there an iron clad way to restart the phone in these conditions...and I don't mean give it a dunk or a bat or use to skip on a pond. For those of you who have in your possession a M7...is the hardware living up to the specs? Thanks!
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You can reset it by holding the power button, like the Nexus 4, or any iPhone. You don't need to ever remove the battery. I never once removed my battery in my Note, Note II, or S3. People act like it is such a big deal, it really isn't.
Note 2 is the only logical choice
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Note 2 is the only logical choice
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Look a Sammy lover, get out
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I base my suggestion on fact
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I'd say go with the One. It is a bit more expensive, but you'll have the highest end device currently available (to prevent any flaming: this is my personal preference. The Galaxy S4 is also great, but I dislike the design of the SGS4 and really like htc Sense) and you will most certainly be good to go for another 2 years minimum. The X+ is also great, but the tegra chip and battery life disappointed me greatly on the One X. I can't say anything about the Note 2, but I've heard good things about it. What I dislike about it is the giant screen, but that's again personal preference.
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Note 2 is the only logical choice
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And that is because...? Some nice arguments you have there
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I'd say go with the One. It is a bit more expensive, but you'll have the highest end device currently available (to prevent any flaming: this is my personal preference. The Galaxy S4 is also great, but I dislike the design of the SGS4 and really like htc Sense) and you will most certainly be good to go for another 2 years minimum. The X+ is also great, but the tegra chip and battery life disappointed me greatly on the One X. I can't say anything about the Note 2, but I've heard good things about it. What I dislike about it is the giant screen, but that's again personal preference.
And that is because...? Some nice arguments you have there
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Note 2 because
Better screen ( bright power efficient amoled vs slcd)
Better battery life + removable
Better storage options
S-pen
No blinkfeed
Better camera 8 vs 4 mp
The only real benefit with a htc one would be build quality which is nice, but the note 3 should feature better build quality.
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Note 2 because
Better screen ( bright power efficient amoled vs slcd)
Better battery life + removable
Better storage options
S-pen
No blinkfeed
Better camera 8 vs 4 mp
The only real benefit with a htc one would be build quality which is nice, but the note 3 should feature better build quality.
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I thought I was receiving the best phone available tomorrow.
akuma2012 said:
I base my suggestion on fact
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No. No, you don't. It's an opinion and has precisely zero to do with any "logic" that's actually veracious. Try again.
Your rationality behind why it's better (notably the AMOLED) is laughable. Why don't you add hyper-contrasted colors to that list since it's a widely held belief? Or the fact that most people find Samsung's UI ugly as sin? Or that the argument between 8 MP/ 4 MP is a total understatement? Or that you'd have no real way of speaking to the battery life of either device since they haven't even been in the hands of consumers yet?
These questions are, of course, rhetorical.
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No. No, you don't. It's an opinion and has precisely zero to do with any "logic" that's actually veracious. Try again.
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Ive stated the facts above. Htc needs to up their game.
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akuma2012 said:
Note 2 because
Better screen ( bright power efficient amoled vs slcd)
Better battery life + removable
Better storage options
S-pen
No blinkfeed
Better camera 8 vs 4 mp
The only real benefit with a htc one would be build quality which is nice, but the note 3 should feature better build quality.
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Screen size is irrelevant. Its based on the user.
Better screen? WTF LOL 1080p 468ppi vs 720 at like 260ppi... OK
3100 5.5 inch vs 2300 4.7
32 GB base storage is good. Vs 16/sdcard. This is a user preference
Spen? Barely anyone uses it. I barely used it once.
No blink feed? You don't have to use it. Change the home screen. Its pretty useful for most people.
Better camera? huh lol I'll just stop
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Screen size is irrelevant. Its based on the user.
Better screen? WTF LOL 1080p 468ppi vs 720 at like 260ppi... OK
3100 5.5 inch vs 2300 4.7
32 GB base storage is good. Vs 16/sdcard. This is a user preference
Spen? Barely anyone uses it. I barely used it once.
No blink feed? You don't have to use it. Change the home screen. Its pretty useful for most people.
Better camera? huh lol I'll just stop
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Pixel count is irrelavant nowadays im talking about the power efficient vibrant nature of amoled.
Spen is very popular in my circles and adds so much to the business experience. Note 2 is for bosses.
You say change the homescreen but why have it in the first place? Just another gimmick.
Yes better camera. Note 2 camera is one if the best all rounders there is. Htc one is only good for low light shots.
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Don't feed the trolls
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akuma2012 said:
Ive stated the facts above. Htc needs to up their game.
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You clearly lack reading comprehension. They aren't facts. They're your misguided opinions. Plus, you haven't even touched either of the devices before so it's obvious that you have no idea what you're talking about.
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You clearly lack reading comprehension. They aren't facts. They're your misguided opinions. Plus, you haven't even touched either of the devices before so it's obvious that you have no idea what you're talking about.
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I have had a play with a htc one device a couple of days ago in a phone shop. Salesman was trying to sell the one to me on a 2 year contract. 15 mins after droning on about '1080p' , 'zoe' and 'blinkfeed' i just pulled out my 5.5inches of amoled perfection and was on my way.
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I have had a play with a htc one device a couple of days ago in a phone shop. Salesman was trying to sell the one to me on a 2 year contract. 15 mins after droning on about '1080p' , 'zoe' and 'blinkfeed' i just pulled out my 5.5inches of amoled perfection and was on my way.
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5.5? That all you're packing ?
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vizzy said:
5.5? That all you're packing ?
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May soon be over 6 " with the n3
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May soon be over 6 " with the n3
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Just out of interest have Samsung solved the loose battery problem in the note 3, you know where the device will switch off if it gets a knock? I know that wedging it in with a slip of paper helps but why should you have to do that in a high end device?
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Just out of interest have Samsung solved the loose battery problem in the note 3, you know where the device will switch off if it gets a knock? I know that wedging it in with a slip of paper helps but why should you have to do that in a high end device?
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Never had that issue with mine or others whom own the device. Sounds like an early batch issue.
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akuma2012 said:
Pixel count is irrelavant nowadays im talking about the power efficient vibrant nature of amoled.
Spen is very popular in my circles and adds so much to the business experience. Note 2 is for bosses.
You say change the homescreen but why have it in the first place? Just another gimmick.
Yes better camera. Note 2 camera is one if the best all rounders there is. Htc one is only good for low light shots.
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There is a BIG DIFFERENCE between the note2 and the htc one. Color Clearly it is relevant sorry.
Not everyone is a boss. lulz
ill leave the camera alone.
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I have had a play with a htc one device a couple of days ago in a phone shop. Salesman was trying to sell the one to me on a 2 year contract. 15 mins after droning on about '1080p' , 'zoe' and 'blinkfeed' i just pulled out my 5.5inches of amoled perfection and was on my way.
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Clearly, you went into the shop just to show off your note 2. There is no hope for you.

Curious about buying the Nexus 4

So I have a few questions.
1. Does the Nexus 4 work *only* on wifi? Meaning if I bought one *phone only* could I just start "using it" at home on wifi? I don't want to activate it yet.
2. I see only "international version" on Amazon... Does this mean it won't work in the U. S.? What exactly does it mean?
3. Honestly... Does the phone do anything that pisses you off? Truthfully. Yes I plan on rooting and ROMming.
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1) Yes
2) There is only one version of the N4. It will work on US GSM carriers.
3) Battery life isn't amazing, apart from that I'm pretty happy. Get a case, the phone is known to be a bit fragile to drops.
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1) Yes
2) There is only one version of the N4. It will work on US GSM carriers.
3) Battery life isn't amazing, apart from that I'm pretty happy. Get a case, the phone is known to be a bit fragile to drops.
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So Amazon's "international version" is the only version?
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So Amazon's "international version" is the only version?
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Yep. International means can be used with any GSM operator. The only thing I hate about n4 is the way it's so fragile without a case and so thick with it.
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Yep. International means can be used with any GSM operator. The only thing I hate about n4 is the way it's so fragile without a case and so thick with it.
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Mk. Someone over at Android Central said the camera was a bit of a bother too? I'd be switching from an LG Optimus V. Love using Camera FV-5.
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damiandownfall said:
Mk. Someone over at Android Central said the camera was a bit of a bother too? I'd be switching from an LG Optimus V. Love using Camera FV-5.
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I personally don't care how it takes the photos, but that's enough for me to take nice pics and copy texts.
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Gallardo994 said:
I personally don't care how it takes the photos, but that's enough for me to take nice pics and copy texts.
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On all honesty this is an amazing phone. I havent had any problems...I'm waiting on the N5 but all in all its a great phone.
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I think it takes good pictures for a phone not made by Sony or Nokia....
I'm coming from a Samsung i727R, the SII Skyrocket, and
I think it takes better pics...
A really quick, smooth phone. Camera is my only problem with it. It is poor indoors and taking action shots.
As a comparison I also have an iPhone 4s and imo that camera is much better taking similar shots.
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Only thing that's not optimal is the battery life.
One thing that piss me off...
Camera is terrible.
My old Samsung Galaxy S2 takes better picture than the nexus 4
But then again, I got it for $350.

Motorola g 2 pics

Looks really nice
http://www.appy-geek.com/Web/ArticleWeb.aspx?regionid=4&articleid=26217645
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Keeps the same 720p screen what do people think about that?? And are they front speakers I see. Hope they are.
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Probably fake
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In case this is real, i think there is no reason to upgrade.
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In case this is real, i think there is no reason to upgrade.
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I would just because I'm still using the HSPA+ version. Chances are the next Moto G will have LTE by default. That's worth an upgrade for me.
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am i the only one who dislike the front speaker?
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am i the only one who dislike the front speaker?
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I also dislike that
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Keeps the same 720p screen what do people think about that?? And are they front speakers I see. Hope they are.
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You are saying it wrong... It doesn't "keep the 720p screen"... It keeps the 320 dpi... Our eyes can't see the difference in the Nexus 4 and Nexus 5 screen, because we can only see a 320 dpi image from 20 cm... Unless you use cardboard, you will NEVER notice the difference.
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Yeah the front speakers are horrible I wouldn't upgrade even if it costs 100 euros. A phone must be fast and stuff but also good looking :beer:
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Yeah the front speakers are horrible I wouldn't upgrade even if it costs 100 euros. A phone must be fast and stuff but also good looking :beer:
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I think they look kinda cool....
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I think they look kinda cool....
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To each their own of course, the upper one is cool but the lower just doesn't look good to me
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I prefer the rear or bottom speaker placement. It looks like a Moto E successor instead of Moto G. Some Brazilian news sites are saying it could be Moto M.
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am i the only one who dislike the front speaker?
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absolutely not, but in some cases may be useful
If it comes in India before G 4G and have more RAM and SD card slot I will buy it
Unfortunely That was moto e guys :silly:
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Unfortunely That was moto e guys :silly:
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No it isn't. Notice the front facing camera at the top right? That, and the front panel is far too lengthy to be a Moto E.
I wonder if it will be even cheaper and if yes, and they will but better cpu and gpu there, what will be the cut? without gorilla glass? maybe using TN display this time? weaker battery? the price cut must have to come from somewhere
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I wonder if it will be even cheaper and if yes, and they will but better cpu and gpu there, what will be the cut? without gorilla glass? maybe using TN display this time? weaker battery? the price cut must have to come from somewhere
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1. I doubt the screen will be touched, making the next G with a worse screen is waaaaay to Windows (that Lumia 530)... It will just make everything look bad, and Motorola focused on user experience with the Moto series.
2. The battery can't be modified if they put another CPU, the Cortex A7 is the only decent architecture for this battery size, new cpu + smaller batter = 0 battery life.
I doubt it will have any other changes appart from a new camera (this is really a painting canvas) and the front facing speaker.
The good part is, if they keep the same chipset and they release it with Android L, it means we are surely getting M, maybe even N (or if not officially, it will be easy to port, like novafusion team does with the S3 mini, xperia U, galaxy s advance and ace 2, which have the same chipset and use almost identical cyanogenmod builds)
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I can't wait for new g or the x to release all Motorola need to start doing now is a massive advertising and start getting people to no about it. Knock Samsung off top spot.
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