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Ice Cream Sandwich coming to Galaxy S II, Samsung UK confirms

from engadget
Here's some exciting, if somewhat unsurprising news for Galaxy S II devotees: Samsung's UK outpost has just confirmed that the handset will indeed receive an upgrade to Android 4.0, delectably known as Ice Cream Sandwich. As of this moment, details are relatively scarce, and Sammy has yet to make similar declarations for markets outside of the UK -- but at least it's coming. "The Galaxy S II will be receiving ICS, but there are no dates confirmed as yet," the company wrote in a tweet this morning. "We will keep you posted." As will we.

ICS officially confirmed!
Hey guys,
Samsung UK has just officially confirmed that the Galaxy SII will get Ice Cream Sandwich.
http://www.theverge.com/android/201...firmwed?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
I hope this hasn't been posted before, but after a series of semi-confirmations, i believe this is the first 'official' one.

seems like markie32 was about a minute faster with posting this than i was ;-) this thread can therefore be deleted and...
Here's his thread

finally official news I'm really thrilled to see what they will do to ICS with their TouchWiz-Garbage. After all their patent disputes with apple they should seriously consider just delivering Vanilla Android 4.0

Samsung of Finnland were the first to announce ICS for our beloved SGS2 They wrote the news on twitter right after the big ICS and Galaxy Nexus event.

Finally. Was waiting for this news frm the moment google showed ics.
Thanks samsung for the late announcement, htc, lg, make their announcement like a months ago.
sorry for my bad eng...
Send from my Samsung Galaxy S II

Finally......im soooooooo happy.............

Samsung really are the worst for letting costumers know these things, other manufacturers let their costumers know ages ago.
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We're looking at Q2 next year according to some sources.
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alias_neo said:
We're looking at Q2 next year according to some sources.
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Will be plenty of custom ICS roms out before then I expect

brittonberkan said:
finally official news I'm really thrilled to see what they will do to ICS with their TouchWiz-Garbage. After all their patent disputes with apple they should seriously consider just delivering Vanilla Android 4.0
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SamFirmware on twitter:
With Android 4.0 there is no more room for Apple to start cases against us.
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We will make a new friendly TW buildfree of Apple patents.
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I just hope the don't use that HORRIBLE overscroll glow in the browser..

thats awesome news!

vaughan said:
Will be plenty of custom ICS roms out before then I expect
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Oh I fully expect it. Even cyanogenmod will be ready long before then I suspect, but personally I'm waiting on a Samsung leak because I enjoy the little extras that just don't work right yet in cyan due to proprietary files.

Upgrade?
Hello,
Sorry if this is a silly question (and also my english), My friend about to buy Samsung SII and he heard that ICS will be available on this device. He asked me either to buy it now or wait for the ICS to be available on the device because he worried if he buy it now, he won't be able to get it upgraded. I owned SII but never upgrade it before, i know SII can simply be upgrade from Kies but i didn't do it yet. He ask me can it be upgrade through Kies as well or need to send it to Samsung shop to get it upgraded. I have no idea at all how to get the ICS to the device, and my friend scared to buy and he want to wait for the upgrade available on the device straight from the shop.

elblue said:
Hello,
Sorry if this is a silly question (and also my english), My friend about to buy Samsung SII and he heard that ICS will be available on this device. He asked me either to buy it now or wait for the ICS to be available on the device because he worried if he buy it now, he won't be able to get it upgraded. I owned SII but never upgrade it before, i know SII can simply be upgrade from Kies but i didn't do it yet. He ask me can it be upgrade through Kies as well or need to send it to Samsung shop to get it upgraded. I have no idea at all how to get the ICS to the device, and my friend scared to buy and he want to wait for the upgrade available on the device straight from the shop.
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You install the Samsung Kies software, plug the phone into the computer, then press the "Update" button in Kies and walk away for an hour or so.
That's it.
Don't hold your breath for an official version for 3-4 months though.

knightnz said:
You install the Samsung Kies software, plug the phone into the computer, then press the "Update" button in Kies and walk away for an hour or so.
That's it.
Don't hold your breath for an official version for 3-4 months though.
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Thanks, is that mean the ICS will be available to be upgraded via Kies once it's released? So i will tell my friend he don't have to wait

Yes.
$1 gets you a reply

Samsung GALAXY S II won't get the ICS 4.0.4 Update, Only Minor FW update in Q4,2012

Well guys, is this true ? Acording to yourmobile.org:
Samsung GALAXY S II GT-I9100 is the previous flagship Android device from Samsung, who has been replaced with the Galaxy S III. Lately, Galaxy S II users received the ICS 4.0.3 update in many regions and U.S. users update has been delayed. Users who already updated their device to 4.0.3 is facing some bugs & issues and asking about future Updates to ICS 4.0.4, like the one on the Galaxy S III.Unfortunately, According to our sources, Samsung have no plans to Update the Galaxy S II I9100 to ICS 4.0.4, the main reason is not yet clear.
However, Samsung won't leave the users with these bugs and planning to release a Minor OTA (Over The Air) Update to fix these bugs by the end of the year, probably about Q4,2012 or may be earlier, but do NOT expect this minor software to upgrade your device to any further ICS build version (4.0.4) or even to JellyBean (4.1.0).

Are you retarded ?? Search before you post fool!! And S2 will the 4.0.4 update

Highly doubt it.
Galaxy S went from 2.1 > 2.2 > 2.3 (2 major updates)
So far S2 has gone 2.3 > 4.0 (1 major update)
So we're due at least 4.1!
Samsung's got 4.0.4 working already on S3, meaning they have touchwiz working with the new Android version, so to not give it to us would be not only lazy but downright disrespectful to customers who paid £400+ on this FLAGSHIP phone. It hasn't been 18 months yet, we should still get support. And as for Q4 2012 for a minor release? 6 months for just bug fixes? That really would be pushing it too far.
If this turns out to be true, which I think unlikely, but if it does then I am not buying Samsung again. Only a Google Nexus or Windows Phone 8.

@OP
Well abusing my mom by PMing me wont help u in any positive way !

Copy paste it. Name and shame.
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What a hilarious assertion made in first post. OP please do not ever become a investigative journalist, for the sake of newspapers reputations worldwide.

This "Shamesung" not "Samsung".
Shamesung galaxy drain My Money.

Post it.
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@OP
Well abusing my mom by PMing me wont help u in any positive way !
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sam10102539 said:
This "Shamesung" not "Samsung".
Shamesung galaxy drain My Money.
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Go buy another make of phone if you don't like it or stop moaning. Its all ifs and buts.
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Samsung has to be mad to abandon S II just after weeks of S III release...u don't just throw a device out of the window the very next day after a new device release...I highly doubt Samsung will abandon such a great device so quickly
But I'm more interested in the jelly bean update...any news on that??
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This is old news. There is no need to be abusive about it, and that's to all of you. Please report any PM that's abusive, Senior Moderators will take care of that pronto. Be nice, guys. Think before you post.

Jellybean arrives in October CONFIRMED by Samsung

Samsung has finally confirmed the Android Jelly Bean update will be arriving on the Samsung Galaxy S3 at some point during October.
The manufacturer won't commit to a more concrete answer than that as it goes through the final stages of testing.
As always, the update will arrive on SIM free versions of the S3 before it heads to network-branded devices, which will come as very frustrating news to some.
If you haven't already bought your Samsung Galaxy S3, we would highly recommend waiting until it launches in all its 4G glory on Everything Everywhere (EE) later in the year, because that version will come with Android Jelly Bean 4.1 already installed.
The Android Jelly Bean update will make the Samsung Galaxy S3 run faster thanks to the Butter UI, add expandable notifications, Android Beam, offline voice dictation and Google Now.
The update has already been released for the Nexus S, Samsung Galaxy Nexus, Nexus 7 and Motorola Xoom, but many are still waiting for it to hit on some of the best selling Android devices such as HTC's range and the Samsung Galaxy S2.
More than 500 million Android handsets are in circulation around the world, but most are still waiting for the latest update to arrive.
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Source: knowyourmbile
Sorry of this has already been posted!

just use this thread
no point create a thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1858813

It's the same content everyone is passing from mouth to mouth from blogs to forums.
Anyone to care enough giving the source of this bu*****t??

This has not confirmed anything
Samsung Sweden and Denmark have said October.... doesn't mean Samsung in other countries, namely BTU UK (what all the leaks have been) won't be in September.

Lennyuk said:
This has not confirmed anything
Samsung Sweden and Denmark have said October.... doesn't mean Samsung in other countries, namely BTU UK (what all the leaks have been) won't be in September.
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yeh agree, not every region gets updates in the same time. UK as always gets earlier

Discussion is here.

Official 4.2 update discussion.

Hi.
I saw official launch of mega series on samsung site.
Mega 5.8 and 6.3 are using dual core processor with 1 gb of ram. ( 1.5 gb on gsmarena)
They are launched with 4.2.2.
So by this I can assume that sammy will roll out 4.2.2 for note as well. Though wait will be long.
What's your take on this. Any views?
Regards
Mani

bhatia.mani said:
Hi.
I saw official launch of mega series on samsung site.
Mega 5.8 and 6.3 are using dual core processor with 1 gb of ram. ( 1.5 gb on gsmarena)
They are launched with 4.2.2.
So by this I can assume that sammy will roll out 4.2.2 for note as well. Though wait will be long.
What's your take on this. Any views?
Regards
Mani
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That assumption doesn't make any sense to me...

_breez_ said:
That assumption doesn't make any sense to me...
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Thens what's your take on this.

I think it is profit manners not about hardware power

bhatia.mani said:
Hi.
I saw official launch of mega series on samsung site.
Mega 5.8 and 6.3 are using dual core processor with 1 gb of ram. ( 1.5 gb on gsmarena)
They are launched with 4.2.2.
So by this I can assume that sammy will roll out 4.2.2 for note as well. Though wait will be long.
What's your take on this. Any views?
Regards
Mani
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Hardware is NOT an issue.
Sammobile received news from an insider a few months ago that the Galaxy S2 and the Galaxy Note should both be getting updates to 4.2.2.
Their insider isn't always right though, so this could just be a load of bollocks but still. You never know...

Another faulty update process made with no interest and no real testing at all? Thanks, but no thanks. I'll stick to 4.1.2 after a clean flash, which will surely be the peak for this device in terms of performance/functionality/estability.
But of course will be interesting for the dev community, if we all live enough to see it...
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While I hope we can get one or two more performance updates (especially regarding the S-Note application!) plus an updated unlock screen, I don't believe the phone needs anything else. My aging N7000 has served me well, especially after a fresh battery replacement.

I doubt that the update will be of any use if it isn't released any time soon. This fall the Note will have been available for 2 years. That's a very long life circle for a phone. Very soon people's Notes will start to die, one after another. And by the time the update will be published there will be hardly any Notes left
Sent from my revived Galaxy Note

4.2 should come for our Note: Galaxy S4 Mini and Galaxy Tab 3 have a dual core proccesor and 1 gb RAM Specs. Samsung sold more than 15 millon of GT N7000 so, its not an unknow phone like the Galaxy Fame or others and they will bring still a lot of support. I guess the 2014 will be the last year of updates for our Note. Dont wait to a major update this year, they first need to finish updating the 4.1.2 to the whole world, then will start the 4.2 updates. You might wait to a November/December leak...
Sorry my bad english

I do not beleive for any future update. SAM forget about his childs after the year. I faced with this already with my Galaxy Tab 10.1. Spec is the same like Note. But last update comes more then year ago, it was 4.0.4

The Note WILL receive Android 4.2.2. It will, however, be the last official update that it'll receive.
There's no date for the update. Samsung will update both the Note II and the S3 before, so when they receive it, we can expect it in about a month or two.

crizolli said:
The Note WILL receive Android 4.2.2. It will, however, be the last official update that it'll receive.
There's no date for the update. Samsung will update both the Note II and the S3 before, so when they receive it, we can expect it in about a month or two.
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When the redsox win the world series again we will get 4.2.2
You really are just making this up. You have no inside info. Same thing was said by everyone about 4.1.2. Not saying you are wrong, but I am saying that your statement had absolutely no factual basis from within your personal knowledge.
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asf58967 said:
When the redsox win the world series again we will get 4.2.2
You really are just making this up. You have no inside info. Same thing was said by everyone about 4.1.2. Not saying you are wrong, but I am saying that your statement had absolutely no factual basis from within your personal knowledge.
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My statement, as you say, is based on history and facts.
First off, SamMobile already confirmed that the Note and the S2 will receive Android 4.2.2, and that it'll be the last official update. Do a simple search and you'll confirm it. They have the track record to back this.
Source: http://www.sammobile.com/2013/03/18...roid-5-0-for-the-galaxy-s-iii-galaxy-note-ii/
Then, this is exactly the same situation that happened with 4.1.1 and 4.1.2.
Rest assured, we'll receive 4.2.2. It'll come after the Note 2 and the S3, and before the Red Sox wins another WS.

Well I hope your right. But sammobile has been wrong many times in the past. Maybe when the dodgers win
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well anyway the TW 4.2 isn't particularly good for me. And btw, the smart scroll and those gesture features, are they purely firmware features or they are hardware dependent too? We got the smart scroll in 4.1.2 upgrade, not sure if we'd get the smart scroll this time...

crizolli said:
My statement, as you say, is based on history and facts.
First off, SamMobile already confirmed that the Note and the S2 will receive Android 4.2.2, and that it'll be the last official update. Do a simple search and you'll confirm it. They have the track record to back this.
Source: http://www.sammobile.com/2013/03/18...roid-5-0-for-the-galaxy-s-iii-galaxy-note-ii/
Then, this is exactly the same situation that happened with 4.1.1 and 4.1.2.
Rest assured, we'll receive 4.2.2. It'll come after the Note 2 and the S3, and before the Red Sox wins another WS.
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However, SamMobile said some devices will get Android 5.0, while this android build wasn't showed by Google or even leaked. So we dont know if SamMobile's source was saying the truth or not. We dont know if 4.2.2 will be the last update, if will get S4 UI, if will be more faster, we dont know ANYTHING about this. The best thing we can do right now is look at the S3 leaked 4.2.2 firmware, because i think it will be the same rom that could have in our phones. I expect we will have the update (or the leak) in November or December.

asf58967 said:
When the redsox win the world series again we will get 4.2.2
You really are just making this up. You have no inside info. Same thing was said by everyone about 4.1.2. Not saying you are wrong, but I am saying that your statement had absolutely no factual basis from within your personal knowledge.
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I really do not understand why Americans call it 'World Series'.

M3TALLICA said:
I really do not understand why Americans call it 'World Series'.
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Maybe because it's the only country in the world when they bother to play it?

4.1.2 or 4.2.2........It doesn't matter much until and unless samsung stabalizes the update...........they released 4.1.2 update so late...and it was not smooth and performance wise it's so power hungry.
Also the touchwhiz interface is so slow with 4.1.2 update. So samsung must stabalize it before jumping it to 4.2.2

Well note still is a very capable phone. But its true that it has almost served its purpose. Spending time to make its update will need more workforce and distraction from focusing on newer devices. We will also get bore from it soon. But i still am happy to have this device and it was a nice decision to opt for this device. Though it will get the 4.2.2, but not the KLP...
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4.2 leak for Note 8.0 but not for our Note 2

http://www.sammobile.com/2013/07/15/android-4-2-2-for-the-galaxy-note-8-0-wi-fi-leaked/
Samsung is really dragging this out for the Note 2.

yeay new thread
via Note 2

This time samsung had really made it worse where all other brand lke htc.sony has been rolling out official 4.2.2 update but for us its a wait maybe thy need this year to solve probs of touchwiz n other stuff.
Its already 15th july n still no news of updates.
I wish all luck to samsung for their future sales of s4 and note3 till thy fill their pocket n r happy to roll out updates

update thi cung the thoi, co gi dau ma ham, nhin update cho s3 ma xem, chan

It´s posible to port it to our note ii?

We will get directly and all s4 features that may support note 2
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shhbz said:
This time samsung had really made it worse where all other brand lke htc.sony has been rolling out official 4.2.2 update but for us its a wait maybe thy need this year to solve probs of touchwiz n other stuff.
Its already 15th july n still no news of updates.
I wish all luck to samsung for their future sales of s4 and note3 till thy fill their pocket n r happy to roll out updates
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HTC has only pushed 4.2 to the One, a 2013 flagship, and the S4, Samsung's latest 2013 flagship also has 4.2 so they actually aren't behind in any way. AFAIK the same goes for Sony.

Update postponed till xmas
http://au.ibtimes.com/articles/4859...y-s3-note-2-official-android.htm#.UePPbqO3PFo

iPTPenguin said:
HTC has only pushed 4.2 to the One, a 2013 flagship, and the S4, Samsung's latest 2013 flagship also has 4.2 so they actually aren't behind in any way. AFAIK the same goes for Sony.
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Agreed. HTC's 2013 "flagship" and savior device shipped with 4.1 and is still in the process of getting 4.2. There are more Google-caused issues in 4.2 than there are in 4.1 so it’s great it has new features everyone wants but the same people *****ing about not having it will be the first to ***** if battery life is less, BT is borked, or if anything is inferior to 4.1. And if Samsung released a rushed and buggy N2 4.2 update those same people would be up in arms. 4.1>4.2 isn't a major update and 4.1 isn't broken.
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Did you read the article? It looks like it was written by a kid.
The upcoming Android 4.2.2 Jelly Bean for both Samsung Galaxy S3 & Galaxy Note 2 is reported to be delayed again and scheduled not earlier than November 2013. Factors such as the Galaxy S4 sales, Android 4.3 Jelly Bean and K Build release date affected the update release date.​There's no source for the information other than "is reported." And does anyone here think Samsung, a company with a $12B R&D budget, is so single threaded or low on resources that something like soft SGS4 sales or doing multiple updates across different devices at the same time is going to tax them? The SGS4's been on the market for four months and punishing the SGS3 or N2 by stalling their update to 4.2 isn't going to help or hurt its sales. Outside XDA people don’t even know what version of Android their running. At most, they know they know “Jelly Bean” is the latest and 4.1 is JB. HTC didn't think launching their new flagship on 4.1 was going to hurt sales and it took them four months to bring it up to 4.2. And since Samsung never officially said when existing 4.1 devices would be brought up to 4.2 there isn't a delay. Something that's never been announced can't be delayed.
And as for the Note 8 getting it first, that makes total sense. It uses a phone vs. tablet UI similar to the N2 but sells in probably 1/10 the volume. If something's broken or needs trouble shooting in customer’s hands it's better to test it on a smaller audience. 4.2 hasn't been used with S Pen, S Note, or an inductive display before and doing so adds a lot of extra code. I'm fine with Note 8 users being the Guinea pigs because my N2 runs perfectly on 4.1.
But do continue to rant and run this thread up to dozens of pages like the other update threads. I'm sure it'll make the update come faster.

Owners of S3 and Note 2 can surely expect the Android 4.2.2 update, but it requires some patience as the maker struggles with Galaxy S4 sales and new Android versions.
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The maker "struggles"??? What, they only make 10 billions instead of 12?? What about all the customers that they are pissing off? Do they think this will help future sales? I for one will start looking where the grass is greener.

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I for one will start looking where the grass is greener.
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And where would that be? HTC? One S owners would disagree the grass is greener. Motorola? Those that bought phones in late-2011 with the promise (in writing) from Motorola they'd receive it and then didn't don't think their grass is any greener. LG and Sony perhaps? There track records are worse than Samsung's.
Want instant updates? Buy a Nexus. Even the GE versions of the One and SGS4 are dependent on HTC and Samsung so won't get updates as fast as a Nexus. Buying a phone with an overlay (which everyone here did) means you wait for updates. If people didn't know that upfront it's their own fault.
And again, whining amongst yourselves here in three different threads on the same subject isn't going to make an update come any faster.

BarryH_GEG said:
And where would that be? HTC? One S owners would disagree the grass is greener. Motorola? Those that bought phones in late-2011 with the promise (in writing) from Motorola they'd receive it and then didn't don't think their grass is any greener. LG and Sony perhaps? There track records are worse than Samsung's.
Want instant updates? Buy a Nexus. Even the GE versions of the One and SGS4 are dependent on HTC and Samsung so won't get updates as fast as a Nexus. Buying a phone with an overlay (which everyone here did) means you wait for updates. If people didn't know that upfront it's their own fault.
And again, whining amongst yourselves here in three different threads on the same subject isn't going to make an update come any faster.
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All they're doing is generating more traffic to sammobile because they ALWAYS get rumors right
(That's sarcasm for anyone not getting it.)

BarryH_GEG said:
And where would that be? HTC? One S owners would disagree the grass is greener. Motorola? Those that bought phones in late-2011 with the promise (in writing) from Motorola they'd receive it and then didn't don't think their grass is any greener. LG and Sony perhaps? There track records are worse than Samsung's.
Want instant updates? Buy a Nexus. Even the GE versions of the One and SGS4 are dependent on HTC and Samsung so won't get updates as fast as a Nexus. Buying a phone with an overlay (which everyone here did) means you wait for updates. If people didn't know that upfront it's their own fault.
And again, whining amongst yourselves here in three different threads on the same subject isn't going to make an update come any faster.
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Ha ha you're right. I was spoiled when I had my S3 six months ago. They were updating almost every weeks then. Now I have to actually WAIT for an update. I feel like an iphone user.:crying:

Kremata said:
Ha ha you're right. I was spoiled when I had my S3 six months ago. They were updating almost every weeks then. Now I have to actually WAIT for an update. I feel like an iphone user.:crying:
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Hey, everyone here has a right to their opinion and feelings about updates. I mostly stay out of update threads. I pop up occasionally becaue people new to XDA or trying to see if a certain phone's worthwhile could get the wrong impression when people go off on Samsung about updates. In my opinion they're no worse than others and over this past year seem to be pushing more general updates out then they have been. But in truth they all pretty much suck and updates clearly aren't a priority. I'd expect starting with the X-Phone, now that Motorla's owned by Google, Motorola should probably lead the pack. We'll have to wait and see.

Maybe someone could explain to me if Samsung sucks so much w/ updates, which mythical company we're talking about that has started rolling out 4.2.2 for it's 2012 flagship? FFS One's just getting 4.2.2 and that came out with S4.
And once 4.2.2 is out more whining threads will be out re: battery life and downgrading to 4.1.2. I'm good with 4.1.2 custom ROMs, what exactly are people missing out on 4.2.2? Lockscreen widgets? Really? Is it worth all this persistent whining?

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And once 4.2.2 is out more whining threads will be out re: battery life and downgrading to 4.1.2. I'm good with 4.1.2 custom ROMs, what exactly are people missing out on 4.2.2? Lockscreen widgets? Really? Is it worth all this persistent whining?
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Shhh. They're all mostly 16yo and this is a big thing for them. Don't try to understand why.
Back when my S3 was on ICS and we were waiting for JB, I asked all the complainers what feature they were missing. One bloke said he was losing business because he didn't have Google Now! (He was serious too)
In a world where flashing a new ROM every second day makes sense, you HAVE to have the latest version of stuff. You just do. The End.

Oh yeah another bastard thread about people moaning because we don't have 4.2.2
Yes im going to shout
WHY ON EARTH WOULD THEY DROP THIS UPDATE BEFORE THE NOTE 3 IS RELEASED AND NOBODY KNOWS WHAT THE NOTE 3 WILL BE RUNNING.
Get it in your heads shut up and wait and stop clogging this forum up with crap every time a phone gets an update. Ffs
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HTC also has pushed 4.2 to butterfly /DNA

tonylee000 said:
Update postponed till xmas
http://au.ibtimes.com/articles/4859...y-s3-note-2-official-android.htm#.UePPbqO3PFo
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bad news indeed, but i'm good on 4.1.2

When (not if) we get the 4.2 update, I suggest eager fans divide it in half to get two updates --> 4.2 / 2 = 2.1
With those two 2.1 updates, use one right away, then save the second for when u feel the need for additional updates later.
Hit thanks if this sounds like a viable option