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just wondering. i can pick one up locally. brand new, for 250.
why do you guys stay with the nexus since it is not made any longer and what do you love about it?
also..hows the battery life compated to a galexyS phone? ( i have the vibrant)
Personally it's because newer devices haven't offered me anything which I really want/need. I am tempted to go with a HC tablet which will give me access to Tegra2 specific apps/games which is all I feel I'm missing when comparing the N1 to newer handsets. It also runs CM (Never mind the plethora of other ROMs) and trackball alert really is hard to beat once you get used to it
i had one right when it came out. there were no roms really yet for it and it was on 2.1 i think...i cant remember how "fast" it was..i do remember i liked the screen, but im concered about battery life..
i LOVED how thin the phoen was...
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i had one right when it came out. there were no roms really yet for it and it was on 2.1 i think...i cant remember how "fast" it was..i do remember i liked the screen, but im concered about battery life..
i LOVED how thin the phoen was...
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I get great battery life but it will obviously depend on the user. A combo of setcpu and a decent kernel will definitely help extend the battery. I found that ROMs really kicked off when Froyo hit. Although it has slowed over the past few months the N1 still has great support, especially considering it's nearly 18 months old.
$5 internet and Roms
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$5 internet and Roms
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what do you mean??? $5
because no other device so far has the same build quality, materials, sexy work-of-art look and feel of the nexus one. plus no other phone has color trackball alert to set ANY notification to ANY color you want. just glance at my phone, blue-new twitter, red-new gmail, yellow-missed call, etc. that is just a necessity once you have it, and not a single other phone is coming out with even a regular notification light, let alone colored.
plus the nexus one is the size of perfection, not so big monsters like these other phones lately. and it still has the amoled screen, not great in the sun, and not as good as super amoled, but all the same indoors.
i just cant find something to replace my nexus one with
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because no other device so far has the same build quality, materials, sexy work-of-art look and feel of the nexus one. plus no other phone has color trackball alert to set ANY notification to ANY color you want. just glance at my phone, blue-new twitter, red-new gmail, yellow-missed call, etc. that is just a necessity once you have it, and not a single other phone is coming out with even a regular notification light, let alone colored.
plus the nexus one is the size of perfection, not so big monsters like these other phones lately. and it still has the amoled screen, not great in the sun, and not as good as super amoled, but all the same indoors.
i just cant find something to replace my nexus one with
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would you consider the screen the same as like a galexy S phone? crisp/sharpness wise?
i am a HUGE rom flasher, so i think i would benefit from a phone like the N1
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would you consider the screen the same as like a galexy S phone? crisp/sharpness wise?
i am a HUGE rom flasher, so i think i would benefit from a phone like the N1
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it IS in fact teh same screen as the galaxy s, both screens are from samsung. both screens use the same pentile matrix pixel layout. the only difference is the galaxy s has super amoled which means the touch layer and glass layer is merged together to produce thinner glass area. the nexus one has the traditional tiny gap. indoors booth look nearly the same (nexus one is sharper because same resolution but 3.7 inch screen. the galaxy s pixels are more visible). outdoors in sunshine is where the galaxy s might be easier to see the screen.
also, not a single other android device exists that has the desk top dock and car dock. that makes the nexus one the full package that no other android device has.
of course the nexus one has the touch screen bug, cant do more than 2 finger inputs, and has the glitch issue. so its a tough call to buy it now. since its probably only 200 dollars i'd say its a no brainer. but not 500 dollars lol.
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it IS in fact teh same screen as the galaxy s, both screens are from samsung. both screens use the same pentile matrix pixel layout. the only difference is the galaxy s has super amoled which means the touch layer and glass layer is merged together to produce thinner glass area. the nexus one has the traditional tiny gap. indoors booth look nearly the same (nexus one is sharper because same resolution but 3.7 inch screen. the galaxy s pixels are more visible). outdoors in sunshine is where the galaxy s might be easier to see the screen.
also, not a single other android device exists that has the desk top dock and car dock. that makes the nexus one the full package that no other android device has.
of course the nexus one has the touch screen bug, cant do more than 2 finger inputs, and has the glitch issue. so its a tough call to buy it now. since its probably only 200 dollars i'd say its a no brainer. but not 500 dollars lol.
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whats the "glitch" issue? also, is the screen nice and responsive?
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whats the "glitch" issue? also, is the screen nice and responsive?
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Every now and than (1-2 times a day for me) the screen calibration gets borked. So if you touch one spot it reads a few mm away sometimes it thinks your touching the soft keys. The way to "fix" the issue is to shut off the screen than wake it up again.
Thats the only issue I've had. Personally waiting for the HTC Sensation or the next Nexus variant to upgrade.
Free (so far) wireless tethering.
Although I am looking at upgrading to the HTC Sensation 4G when it comes out in June.
I love the n1 because it can do everything i use it for and its still a very responsive phone. I pay 15$ for a grandfathered unlimited data plan from att so until theres a superphone available that can do all mine can do plus more and on att(since im not interested in changing cell providers) then im not really in the new phone market.
i use mine for internet access on the road for work like a the airport for instance.
reference for research for anything and everywhere.
navigation for work and play
music streaming from my home pc with subsonic(fantastic app)
music playing locally while in the car
music music music
reminders and email for work
communication with co-workers and friends via trillian on msn/gtalk/aim/facebook
timewaster and newsreader for my google reader feeds
i dont play many games but the ones i do work decent enough
only drawbacks i see with it is the multitouch, like others have said it will think youre touching the bottom menu buttons for some reason, usually i run into this after i had docked it and undocked it or it had been charging. you can kind of reproduce it if youre movinga touch point in the top left of the screen and then tap towards the lower to mid-right. if you have a multi-touch test app you will see it thinking your finger drops straight down. you get used to it though, i dont mind it too much anymore. being able to rotate the map would be nice like on the vibrant but the two finger perpendicular slide to rotate isnt so bad. I still love my n1 a lot more than my girlfriend's vibrant which is tainted by the samsung ui overlay nonsense. give me aosp or give me death.
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the glitch is every once in a while the screen thinks you touched a different spot. this happens about once a week for me, mostly less than that. its easy to fix, just lock the phone then swipe to unlock, the issue goes away for another week lol. but it IS a hardware issue that can never be fixed, so we just live with it.
other than that i think the screen is just fine for responsive. probably not the best in the world, but its good to me. touch a spot and it registers immediately.
I love my sexy nexyyyyyy!!!! I like trackball that's why i keep my N1.
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It's a great Developer device for those who like Flashing!
I'm keeping mine for now to see what the Pyramid looks like when released...
I can get a brand new one unopened for 250 in town....
As a vibrant, vibrant 4g, n1 owner ...the build quality of the n1 is awesome. Just tits when compared to plastics.
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1) Community Support
2) Lighted Trackball - it's a lifesaver during meetings!
3) Incredibly pocket-able..thin/light/resilient
4) It's unique - and it's not a Samsung/Moto device!
XDA is no longer worth my time.
I've heard many people complain about the unresponsiveness of the screen and its yellow tint. How bad is the unresponsiveness for someone who has this phone? Does it bother you that much and slow your typing? Does the yellow tint bother you? I'm coming from the SGS2 and I'm interesting in buying the N4 but I hear so many bad things about it. Additionally, I heard there is a rattle in the phone? I read up on XDA on a poll thread but I think it's normal? What do you think? Is this phone better than the SGS3? (sorry to bring up this phone) and not considering the prices of both devices. I want to forget about the price and just focus on which one will not give me any noticeable problems
Thanks!
i can verify that its not too difficult to press lightly and not have a touch register. although i dont usually press very lightly, so it really depends on the individual. if you normally have a delicate touch you will notice it. personally it doesn't slow me down at all.
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I've heard many people complain about the unresponsiveness of the screen and its yellow tint. How bad is the unresponsiveness for someone who has this phone? Does it bother you that much and slow your typing? Does the yellow tint bother you? I'm coming from the SGS2 and I'm interesting in buying the N4 but I hear so many bad things about it. Additionally, I heard there is a rattle in the phone? I read up on XDA on a poll thread but I think it's normal? What do you think? Is this phone better than the SGS3? (sorry to bring up this phone) and not considering the prices of both devices. I want to forget about the price and just focus on which one will not give me any noticeable problems
Thanks!
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i can verify that its not too difficult to press lightly and not have a touch register. although i dont usually press very lightly, so it really depends on the individual. if you normally have a delicate touch you will notice it. personally it doesn't slow me down at all.
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I wonder what you mean by 'light'. Are you happy you bought it? did you notice the yellow tint?
The yellow tint can only be seen from extreme angles and I'm doing perfectly fine with the screen sensitivity.
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The yellow tint can only be seen from extreme angles and I'm doing perfectly fine with the screen sensitivity.
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Thanks! I'd still like to hear a bit more from other people :3 By the way did you face any other issues with the n4? at all? hows the battery?
I don't think you will be disappointed by this phone coming from an S2. Most of the "issues" have been blown out of proportion. The rattle being the best example.
Yellow tint?
The screen is on the warmer side, or may have its gamma off, it's not a yellow tint. You would probably not know the difference unless you compare it side by side with something like an amoled display. Some people have mentioned a yellow tint when you look at it from the bottom left or upper right corners at an angle. This seems normal as it shows a blueish tint from the two other corners.
Rattle?
I checked mine, and to hear this rattle I have to shake the phone vigorously next to my ear and be in a completely quite room to be able to hear it, it doesn't rattle at all if you just grab or move the phone.
Screen sensitivity?
It is indeed less sensitive, for me it sometimes fails to register taps on the home button, but that's about it, it doesn't bother me that much. It depends on whether or not you're used to very light touches.
I don't have any of those issues. My response is excellent and my screen has no tint at all. In fact my N4 has none of the issues being complained about.
I think a lot of the perceived issues are overblown. Typical for a device launch. The few unhappy people post and the majority are happy and don't bother.
It seems you have more motivation to go on a board if you're having an issue than if you don't. I experienced the same thing with the gnex launch (again flawless phone) and nexus 7 launch (flawless tablet).
I don't think I'm just lucky, I just think you're more likely to find those with issues posting.
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I don't think you will be disappointed by this phone coming from an S2. Most of the "issues" have been blown out of proportion. The rattle being the best example.
Yellow tint?
The screen is on the warmer side, or may have its gamma off, it's not a yellow tint. You would probably not know the difference unless you compare it side by side with something like an amoled display. Some people have mentioned a yellow tint when you look at it from the bottom left or upper right corners at an angle. This seems normal as it shows a blueish tint from the two other corners.
Rattle?
I checked mine, and to hear this rattle I have to shake the phone vigorously next to my ear and be in a completely quite room to be able to hear it, it doesn't rattle at all if you just grab or move the phone.
Screen sensitivity?
It is indeed less sensitive, for me it sometimes fails to register taps on the home button, but that's about it, it doesn't bother me that much. It depends on whether or not you're used to very light touches.
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Thanks I think I'm becoming more persuaded towards the SGS3 because I love AMOLED and I'm just too worried about this phone in general.. I'm not sure what you mean by light touches though.. I usually handle my SGS2 with one hand so I kind of press densely but maybe it is not enough.. Is it hard enough, for instance, that if you press your thumb on your forearm, that your skin will bend down (not sure if thats a correct word) a bit? Or does it stay still? I would say my skin moves a bit following my thumb..
I've had neither issue but I've also had no heating issues either and people keep complaining about that too.
My screen isn't yellow-that seems like some isolated batch.
The only time my nexus 4 heated up was when I was downloading several apps, watching youtube on 3G and charging the phone all at the same time. It cooled down very quickly afterwards.
I have grown to prefer the 'touch error' of this screen, I came from an SGS2 which has a super-sensitive screen (it can be activated by hovering close to it), often a swipe or light touch would register as a single point touch and take me elsewhere in the phone, especially with one-handed use. Now, though, I actually have to press something to select it. Swipes don't register as single point touches, an errant finger in one hand use mostly won't register, which is brilliant IMHO. I prefer it.
Choosing between the N4 and SGS3 is the hardest thing in my life so far. Just kidding. I hate the SGS3's design and I think the N4 is the most sexy beautiful beast in the world. Anyway, thanks a lot of the replies guys but I have... a possibly last query.. What would you guys do if you had a change to pick again from both of those phones?
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Thanks I think I'm becoming more persuaded towards the SGS3 because I love AMOLED and I'm just too worried about this phone in general.. I'm not sure what you mean by light touches though.. I usually handle my SGS2 with one hand so I kind of press densely but maybe it is not enough.. Is it hard enough, for instance, that if you press your thumb on your forearm, that your skin will bend down (not sure if thats a correct word) a bit? Or does it stay still? I would say my skin moves a bit following my thumb..
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Then I don't think you will have a problem with screen sensitivity. The most compelling reasons to get this phone are the stock android experience, future upgrades availability, and its solid build, it feels great in your hand. You will have to weight those attributes versus your preference for amoled screens. I have a Samsung 7.7 tab which has one of the best amoled screens I've seen and great hardware, but the lack of support and SW upgrades sort of makes the Nexus 7 a better option.
My screen does not look yellow to me, but it can depend on what phone you just came from. To me the green in some apps is not as vibrant as it was on my HTC One S.
I have no issues.
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Thanks guys.. again xD What do you guys recommend for me?
No yellow tint on my screen, however the screen sensitivity is slightly less responsive than the Galaxy S III, but should'nt be too much of an issue. I would recommend the Nexus 4 due to the price, pure android experience, and the first to get updates.
When speaking of touch sesitivity you need to keep in mind that you are talking about a capacitive screen. That means it senses the capacitive charge setup from your finger and the screen. This can be effected by your skin, oil/dirt on your skin/screen, moisture content and temprature of the air. For these reasons it is very difficult to accurately compare the opinion of your touch to someone else's opinion of their touch.
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Thanks guys.. again xD What do you guys recommend for me?
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n4...200%
after two slcd 2 devices.... I'll never look at amoled again.
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Battery life isn't as good as the GS2, nor is the speaker or build quality and there is no Micro SD slot or removable battery. What is also annoying is seeing my friends I noticed that black levels were more of a grey, I just cannot get used to non OLED screens any more. There isn't really any improvement over the GS2, the only thing you can say is specs but the Nexus 4 is hardly the king, it's lagging behind the competition even with it's superior hardware, purely because of build quality from LG.
I was excited for the Nexus 4 but unless you cannot afford a Smart Phone and the £280 price point is perfect for you then there is no reason to buy it. I'm just gonna get the GS4 on my upgrade next year.
I came from a Galaxy SIII , and I couldn't be any happier. My battery life is much better, the screen has no yellow hue to it that I can see, even at weird angles, the touch screen couldn't be any more sensitive in the opinion (its just as sensitive as my sgs3 was) , the rattle is there, but you have to have the ear piece right up against your ear to hear it at all, if not it barely audible. To me, this phone is the best Android device I've ever owned, and I've owned ALOT of them. One more thing, this is the best screen ive ever seen on a smartphone too. Text is extremely crisp, colors are true to life, and it is really bright!
I hope this, and everyone else's posts have calmed your concerns about the Nexus 4. To be honest , you be missing out on an amazing device if you chose not to get it because some people are overly dramatic .
I hope you get it
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This Nexus 4 crap is really perplex.. I don't know if to buy it or not. The price doesn't matter right now, I just want a good smartphone with a lot of development teams and sexy design along with good specs. To be honest, I saw the SGS3 on a store and I used it and the screen is amazing but if i get like 1 inch close I can actually see pixels .-. And additionally, I HATE the design. But if there's no other better choice I'll get it. What do you guys recommend? forget about the price please.
I was unfortunate to get in the LL3 train, but I should be getting my N4 by Wednesday hopefully. I have a Nexus S right now that is rooted and am hoping to get some insite on how people are liking their N4's coming from the Nexus S. I know the N4 has almost 4 times the RAM as the Nexus S and much more CPU and GPU power, but Nexus S is running pretty well. I just want to know what are people's experiences! Can't wait to get my own N4!
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I was unfortunate to get in the LL3 train, but I should be getting my N4 by Wednesday hopefully. I have a Nexus S right now that is rooted and am hoping to get some insite on how people are liking their N4's coming from the Nexus S. I know the N4 has almost 4 times the RAM as the Nexus S and much more CPU and GPU power, but Nexus S is running pretty well. I just want to know what are people's experiences! Can't wait to get my own N4!
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I had the Nexus S a while ago but there's really no comparison between the two. I loved all the Nexus devices, but this one is just simply amazing. From the hardware design to the software it's a pleasing and flawless experience. You won't be disappointed
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You will love it! I have the nexus s for my work phone and then the N4 as my personal phone. If you like the Nexus S then i can assume you like stock android and thus the N4 is like stock android but on steriods because of how much faster and smoother it is. There will be some differences though, the N4 has the LCD screen while the Nexus had the Amoled (thinking about that i think they did do a LCD screen of the nexus but mine is Amoled anyway) so colours will look different, however you will love how sharp the screen is since its a huge bump in resolution.
The camera is a million times better than the S
On screen buttons you should be ok with, some people dont like them because it takes up screen real estate, however since you're coming from the S that screen is only 4inch so the bump to 4.4inch of userable screen should still be good. (also as a side point i came from the GS3, people who moan about they should put buttons on the bezel are idiots who know nothing, i cant tell you how many times you accidently hit buttons when holding the phone in landscape because they have no bezel on the bottom of the phone as its took up by buttons)
The only thing which is neither good or bad, its just different, will be the construction, the N4 is far far superior in construction quality, so you will either love it for that as it feels fantastic in the hand....... or you will hate it because its made out of glass and thus is prone to cracks if you drop it, where as the nexus S is more durable.
My general opinion is that that should be obvious, its glass.... it will break, if your one of these people who are super careful you will be fine, if you generally drop your phone often, get a case/bumper
bar that you should love it, since you didnt have LTE in the first place or removal storage, these are things you havent lost.
The last thing i will say is since you've come from a stock google device, it should be super super easy restroing all your items when you load into your account on your new phone
I have an SGS1 with custom ROMs, which is almost identical hardware. The difference between the two is really immense. A bigger, nicer screen with zero stutter or lag when doing almost anything. Apps are quick, everything is snappy.
Now when I look back at my Nexus S (though I came to N4 via Galaxy Nexus after the "S"), it is hard to even compare the two. I'd say you will be for a better experience pretty much on every single front. Except for size maybe - you'd definitely need some time to get used to the much wider phone. Especially if you plan on using case/bumper.
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I had the Nexus S a while ago but there's really no comparison between the two. I loved all the Nexus devices, but this one is just simply amazing. From the hardware design to the software it's a pleasing and flawless experience. You won't be disappointed
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What's your favorite improvement over the Nexus S? And don't say all of them haha
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You will love it! I have the nexus s for my work phone and then the N4 as my personal phone. If you like the Nexus S then i can assume you like stock android and thus the N4 is like stock android but on steriods because of how much faster and smoother it is. There will be some differences though, the N4 has the LCD screen while the Nexus had the Amoled (thinking about that i think they did do a LCD screen of the nexus but mine is Amoled anyway) so colours will look different, however you will love how sharp the screen is since its a huge bump in resolution.
The camera is a million times better than the S
On screen buttons you should be ok with, some people dont like them because it takes up screen real estate, however since you're coming from the S that screen is only 4inch so the bump to 4.4inch of userable screen should still be good. (also as a side point i came from the GS3, people who moan about they should put buttons on the bezel are idiots who know nothing, i cant tell you how many times you accidently hit buttons when holding the phone in landscape because they have no bezel on the bottom of the phone as its took up by buttons)
The only thing which is neither good or bad, its just different, will be the construction, the N4 is far far superior in construction quality, so you will either love it for that as it feels fantastic in the hand....... or you will hate it because its made out of glass and thus is prone to cracks if you drop it, where as the nexus S is more durable.
My general opinion is that that should be obvious, its glass.... it will break, if your one of these people who are super careful you will be fine, if you generally drop your phone often, get a case/bumper
bar that you should love it, since you didnt have LTE in the first place or removal storage, these are things you havent lost.
The last thing i will say is since you've come from a stock google device, it should be super super easy restroing all your items when you load into your account on your new phone
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I have the Nexus 7 right now and I love it! The lack of LTE doesn't really bother me because I know T-mobile HSPA+ is more then enough. The glass design makes me really happy because I feel like its the first android phone worth showing off to people! I'm just so used to the speed on my Nexus S that when I turn on the Nexus 4 I'm expecting a world's of difference. I can't wait!
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I just can't wait to see the giant difference!
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Now when I look back at my Nexus S (though I came to N4 via Galaxy Nexus after the "S"), it is hard to even compare the two. I'd say you will be for a better experience pretty much on every single front. Except for size maybe - you'd definitely need some time to get used to the much wider phone. Especially if you plan on using case/bumper.
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No bumper for me I'm very careful with my phone, I hope I keep my track record up though haha!
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What's your favorite improvement over the Nexus S? And don't say all of them haha
I have the Nexus 7 right now and I love it! The lack of LTE doesn't really bother me because I know T-mobile HSPA+ is more then enough. The glass design makes me really happy because I feel like its the first android phone worth showing off to people! I'm just so used to the speed on my Nexus S that when I turn on the Nexus 4 I'm expecting a world's of difference. I can't wait!
I just can't wait to see the giant difference!
No bumper for me I'm very careful with my phone, I hope I keep my track record up though haha!
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It really is everything! Its like comparing an old analog TV to the new sleek and HDTVs. The nexus 4 has a beautiful design, quadruple the ram, excellent cpu and GPU hardware, and a gorgeous HD LCD display. It really is better in every aspect in my opinion
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So.... I just left my local AT&T store after some quality hands-on time with the Moto X. My verdict: take my damned money, Motorola!
Disclaimer: I'm not a Moto or AT&T rep, just a guy who's owned 10+ Android devices since the G1 and up to the Galaxy S4. And currently I'm rocking the Lumia 1020 as my daily driver: love it too!
So I walked in at 9am when the store opened and made a quick sweep of the store looking for a Moto customatic booth. Today is the official launch and my bet was 50/50 they'd have a display up and running. Turns out they didn't :/ Way to go AT&T! Next I made a bee line for the store manager. Long story short: he didn't know when they would have display models available but he was more than happy to open a brand new white model up for me...
So? The Moto X feels fantastic. Think iPhone size, but rounded to fit exactly in your hands. I can honestly say there's no other phone outside of Nokia's Lumia series that feels as good in hand as the X. I'm 6'0" and have what I consider to be average size paws. The svelte bezels meant I could effortlessly reach all the way to the far corners of the screen, FINALLY :victory: I'm totally in love. Manufacturers keep making these razor-thin slabs with zero ergonomics and it's time for a revolution (seriously).
Since I'm a little busy this morning I will list a few observations and hopefully post some pictures later:
- The phone is SOLID. Both in weight and balance. Again the best comparison here is the iPhone 4S (I've never owned one but played with them enough). The guts of this little machine must be packed tight because it feels nothing like Samsung's M.O. of light and flimsy.
- The screen is sharp and and saturated, just like every AMOLED I've used before. Side by side with the GS4 I could discern no difference in screen quality. I would like to throw in the personal opinion that 1920x1080 on a 5", much less a 4.7" screen is completely unnecessary. Completely. GS4 owners (I was one) can argue till they're blue in the face but they'd still be mistaken. If 720p was excellent on a Note II at 5.5" then 720p at 4.7" is that much better. Yep, it's true.
- The buttons did not rattle or feel loose as some reviewers have mentioned. This is just one unit I tried but I didn't see looseness/rattling in it. We'll see how those buttons actually hold up after regular usage.
- I didn't test the camera. I will when they get the display models in. What's gonna beat the Lumia 1020 anyway?
- More to come....
Nice first impressions! Looking forward to more
Oh and when I read the title for a second I thought that you had gotten hold of a device called the "moto X mini" and I'm like holy crap is this real!? Lol and then I reread it again at then facepalmed.
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Haha, thanks for the kudos! I changed the title to disambiguate a bit. The Moto X is already "mini" :good:
I also went into the att store to look at the device. My thoughts:
One of the best feeling phones. It's amazing how small it is yet how much screen you get
The voice commands work well. In a loud ATT store, I just said okay google and i said it in a whisper and it picked it up.
the screen was not as good. I've had a droid dna for 9 months, i can tell a difference. The whites are more yellowish. The icons are good, the problem with going 1080p vs 720p is not the pictures, its the font. The font on the htc was customized better.
I coudln't try active notifications even though i have it on my phone through google play store. It's stupid to me that att or any other carrier puts some stupid video so the phone never turns off. When i turn off the phone and try to put it face down, i get some stupid moto x video and not the active notifcations. It really is super stupid. Nice job ATT.
Camera was okay. I did notice it was slightly washed but it was okay. when using it it, the tap to focus was not turned on by default yo uhave to go to settings and turn it on. after that, it focused better. The focus was relativaliey sharp and i just applied aftereffects to the phone and i was fine with the phone. I even compared it to the htc one and i wasn' tlike "oh wow the htc one is so much better"
Overall, i was dissapointed by the screen but very very very impressed with the build, size and body. It's very tempting.
Went and checked it out as well. Returned my OG Pro that I got a week ago and paid the extra $140 to cover the additional cost of the Moto X. The phone just feels right as corny as that sounds. I go through phones like no other, but this one has a good upside and feel.
I have a feeling that this phone will be one of those phones that everybody will crap on saying the HTC One or the S4 will be infinitely better without trying the phone out.
But as soon as they try it out they will change their tune and say it is a great phone and would be willing to trade their phone in for it.
Thanks for all the info, everyone. Just got a One a few weeks back so probably not in the upgrade market, but curious to see how this Device does. It's nice to see Google out there and focusing their efforts on non-nexus devices...the more access consumers have to this tech, the better. The active notifications sound really awesome, however, I can't stand the color rendering of the AMOLEDs. I know, I know, this has been said 1000x. But having spent much of my career assembling documents and presentation with a high level of graphic design attention, these AMOLEDs just kill to look at. The not-quite-white whites and super-saturated blues and greens just burn a hole in my soul. That said, still can't wait to get a hold of this thing and give it a run in the store. From what I can tell right now, this sounds like something I'd strongly consider upgrading to if I were in the market for a device.
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I have a feeling that this phone will be one of those phones that everybody will crap on saying the HTC One or the S4 will be infinitely better without trying the phone out.
But as soon as they try it out they will change their tune and say it is a great phone and would be willing to trade their phone in for it.
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I've got all three devices you mentioned... I think the Moto X is going back.
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I've got all three devices you mentioned... I think the Moto X is going back.
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Why's that if you don't mind me asking? What is it about the other two that is more appealing than the Moto X?
The moto X screen is great and the whites are whiter than the S4. My favorite features are the notifications and the Motorola Connect, love it.
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Why's that if you don't mind me asking? What is it about the other two that is more appealing than the Moto X?
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I don't mind at all!
The phone is pretty good, but there are some things I like quite a lot more about the GPe One or GS4.
Both of them have better displays. The One's aluminum is terrific. Stock android is amazing.
I think the only thing I'll really miss, and I mean really, is the voice control. It's really awesome.
Here's a reddit thread of first impressions:
http://www.reddit.com/r/MotoX/comments/1kyzzi/bought_one_at_the_store_first_impressions/
love my Moto X
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eallan said:
I don't mind at all!
The phone is pretty good, but there are some things I like quite a lot more about the GPe One or GS4.
Both of them have better displays. The One's aluminum is terrific. Stock android is amazing.
I think the only thing I'll really miss, and I mean really, is the voice control. It's really awesome.
Here's a reddit thread of first impressions:
http://www.reddit.com/r/MotoX/comments/1kyzzi/bought_one_at_the_store_first_impressions/
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Oh you went with the google play models, now that changes everything! I can see how you like those more than this phone.
I had a Google play s4 and decided on the moto x. For me its the size of the device. Being able to handle it easier one handed feels a lot better than trying to juggle the s4. Both great phones though. Maybe the s4 will get pulled out of the drawer one day
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Prior to getting the 6S, I was a pretty diehard Android/Nexus user. I got the 6S because I wanted to change things up a bit and really liked the build quality of the new iPhones. However, of all the phones I went through, the Nexus 5 was my absolute favorite. It was a simple, solid, reliable phone. It just had a few draw backs. The camera was pretty terrible, the battery life was sub-par and the screen size was just a bit too small.
Luckily, Google solved all these problems with the release of the 5X. So I placed my order last week and the phone arrived on Tuesday. I've had a few days to compare it directly with my iPhone 6S, so I figured I'd provide some thoughts.
Size
I've read reviews that say the 5X is a weird size that doesn't feel right in the hand. I have to disagree with that. The size is rather perfect, if you ask me. The iPhone 6S is just a tad small and almost feels "too small" in the hand. Meanwhile, the 6S+ is way too big, like the Nexus 6 was. With all that in mind, I find the 5X to be the sweet spot in size.
Build Quality
Anyone who has a recent Macbook Pro or Macbook knows how well Apple builds their products. The 6S falls right in line with that expectation. The build quality is exceptional and tough to beat. Compared to that, you'd think the 5X's plastic build would feel cheap. However, like the Nexus 5, Google found a way to make their plastic phone feel like a very solid higher-tier phone. I like the 6S and 5X builds equally, in different ways. Some people mentioned that the 5X felt "light". However, when I hold them each in different hands, the weight difference between the 6S and the 5X is negligible at best.
Screen
The iPhone 6S screen is the clear winner, stock for stock. Out of the box, the 5X screen looks like s*** in comparison, there is just no denying that. The color temperature and color depth is terrible on the 5X. Side by side the Nexus 5X screen is just too warm and washed out. However, as Nexus owners should know, some simple RGB color tweaks with a custom kernel is all that is necessary to remedy that. So the fix for this will be available in short time.
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The more I use the 5X, the more I'm starting to agree with other commenters that the screen color is actually quite good. I previously preferred screen color temperatures closer to 7000 (like the iPhone). But after using the 5X for about a week, I've gotten used to the much more natural color tones on the screen. So much so that I actually just recalibrated my Macbook Pro's screen temperature to be closer to 6500, which better matches the 5X screen.
I'm finding that the lower, softer, color temperature is much easier on the eyes., especially in low light.
Finger Print Reader
The finger print reader on the 6S is very good. I find it to be accurate and fast. With that in mind, I had relatively low hopes for the one on the 5X. However, I am happy to say that I am VERY pleasantly surprised by how accurate/fast the 5X finger print reader is. It's as fast/accurate/consistent as the one on the 6S is and I'd actually argue that the finger print reader on the 5X is a tad bit snappier.
Camera
Anyone who follows camera comparison reviews knows that the camera on the 6S gets great results when compared to all the top dogs in camera performance. And most know that Nexus phones have never been known for having a quality camera. However, things have finally changed with the 5X. When I take sample pictures with both phones, for comparison sake, the 6S and 5X tend to produce the same high quality photos. However, in low light, the 5X still falls short to the 6S. But even the low light pictures from the 6S are nothing to write home about.
Phone Speaker
I work from home and have conference calls just about every day. So I utilize the the phone's speaker a lot. And I'll say that the voices through the speaker definitely sound more clear on the 5X than they do on the 6S. With the 6S I have to turn the volume to the max to hear people and even then, it's sometimes hard to hear them. With the 5X I keep it at about 50% volume and everyone sounds crisp and clear.
Overall, I am very happy with the 5X and, aside from the bad screen coloring on the 5X, I can't think of anything that I miss about the 6S. Google did a great job with this phone and I anticipate that I have finally found the phone that I will keep for at least the next 12 months, rather than changing it up seemingly every 3-4 months.
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What about sound with headphones? I imagine I'll use V4A but the low volume I read about is a bit of a bugger. Battery and lag I think either custom or stock updates will take care of.
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dondavis007 said:
Great review. Thanks for your effort.
What about sound with headphones? I imagine I'll use V4A but the low volume I read about is a bit of a bugger. Battery and lag I think either custom or stock updates will take care of.
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I hadn't tested that yet. However, I just used the in ear headphones that came with the iPhone and tested them with the same song on both the 5X and 6S back to back. I'm not sure how people are claiming it has low volume. With both phones set at 50% volume, the 5X is louder than the 6S. And at 80% volume the music is way to loud on the 5X.
I know there was a thread discussing the low audio volume and people were mentioning they were also having trouble getting the headphones all the way into the phone. I imagine many of those complaining about the audio volume simply hadn't pushed the headphones in all the way. The first time you push them in you really have to give them some effort until they "pop" fully into place. I had to do this with my 6S as well. Once you push it in all the way the first time, it's much easier after that.
In your last paragraph, by phone speaker you mean the speaker at the bottom? or the earpiece that you call with
This is a great thread, it shows you just how much $379 will get you compared to the $650 for the iPhone
It is almost the same device in an android atmosphere.
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P.Fan said:
In your last paragraph, by phone speaker you mean the speaker at the bottom? or the earpiece that you call with
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I apologize for the confusion. I was referring to the phone speaker at the bottom, used to play music externally, or in my case, project voices during a conference call.
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This is a great thread, it shows you just how much $379 will get you compared to the $650 for the iPhone
It is almost the same device in an android atmosphere.
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Yeah, the 6S may cost more but as far as daily use, I can't think of any big areas that the 5X is lacking. The one thing the 6S has that I wish the 5X had, is force touch capabilities. Force touching apps to get to their quick shortcuts is actually extremely intuitive and made for a great user experience. I do miss that. However, double tapping the power button on the 5X to instantly open the camera is an excellent feature that may just trump that force touch feature.
Android has force touch capability and it works on my Nexus 5 and my Nexus 5x - there's a demo app called Force Touch which shows the pressure being exerted on the screen when you touch it. It's just not got any practical uses yet. IMO opinion Apple needed it because the long touch on the iOS home screen just makes the icons wobble and allows them to be moved around. It's marketing gumph that Apple does so well - creating the illusion that its products are somehow better than the competition even though the facts suggest otherwise.
My wife has an iphone 6 and yesterday when we played the same song from the same source, at highest volume in the car via aux cable, Her phone sounded much louder than my 5x. I just hope it is something that will "open" or it was just something that happened the first time. But the sound was noticeably lower as well as call speaker volume.
Unfortunately that's the verdict coming from most reviewers. The audio from the head phone jack isn't that great. IPhone had always had great sound quality though.
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Yeah, I don't really understand most of the criticism the nexus 5X is receiving. Most seem really nitpicky. Almost like the larger bezels and 2gb of RAM has colored many people's impressions of the rest of the phone. So much was expected of this phone that it kind of broke some hearts and stung em up, so now trash talking. It doesn't help that there is a 6P, that allows you to still get a nexus and trash talk a nexus.
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As far as the screen is concerned, this blows the 6S out of the water from where I stand. My 5X has great color reproduction and the MUCH better pixel density make it a clear winner.
You know, the more I use the 5X, the more I'm starting to agree that the screen color is actually quite good. I previously preferred screen color temperatures closer to 7000 (like the iPhone). But after using the 5X for about a week, I've gotten used to the much more natural color tones on the screen. So much so that I actually just recalibrated my Macbook Pro's screen temperature to be closer to 6500, which better matches the 5X screen.
I'm finding that the lower, softer, color temperature is much easier on the eyes., especially in low light.
I also think that the screen on the 5X is pretty good. Sure, it a'int the best screen I've ever seen but it a'int the worst either.
There have been quite a few people who got defective "yellow tint" screens and google has been replacing those units. I wonder if the OP's device might be an affected unit?
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I also think that the screen on the 5X is pretty good. Sure, it a'int the best screen I've ever seen but it a'int the worst either.
There have been quite a few people who got defective "yellow tint" screens and google has been replacing those units. I wonder if the OP's device might be an affected unit?
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I don't think it is. After looking at pictures of the affected units, mine is nowhere near as yellow. It's just a tad warmer than I'm used to but I've actually gotten used to it and when I change my laptop's screen settings down to a temperature of 6500 it matches the 5X screen almost perfectly. If my screen was abnormally yellow, I'd see it when comparing it to my laptop. I think my screen is fine.
I by far prefer the warmer yellows to the otherwise sickly greens.
warmer screens (redish) should help those that find phone screens keep them awake at night.. The theory beeing the White/Cold light from the screen activate a Wake hormone.
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I hadn't tested that yet. However, I just used the in ear headphones that came with the iPhone and tested them with the same song on both the 5X and 6S back to back. I'm not sure how people are claiming it has low volume. With both phones set at 50% volume, the 5X is louder than the 6S. And at 80% volume the music is way to loud on the 5X.
I know there was a thread discussing the low audio volume and people were mentioning they were also having trouble getting the headphones all the way into the phone. I imagine many of those complaining about the audio volume simply hadn't pushed the headphones in all the way. The first time you push them in you really have to give them some effort until they "pop" fully into place. I had to do this with my 6S as well. Once you push it in all the way the first time, it's much easier after that.
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I don't have the iPhone 6S to compare with but in my experience with the Nexus 5X the audio level using headphones seems to be somewhere in the middle of what you are getting(too loud at 80%) and what others seem to be getting(not loud enough even at 100%). For me even 100% isn't TOO loud but more than loud enough for most situations. If I was on a loud subway train or something then 100% might not be loud enough but it would have to be pretty loud around me.
Have you compared battery life between the iPhone 6S and Nexus 5X? I've always heard that iPhones had decent battery life so I can't imagine the iPhone 6S having worse battery life than the disappointing(but usually acceptable) battery life of the Nexus 5X.
Also, if the screen on the Nexus 5X was really that "warm" looking you might have gotten a bad one. I've heard that some people are getting with with a yellowish tint. Mine is fine.
Battery life on the iPhone was actually not that great. However, I was also using it right when the Facebook app was experiencing a battery drain bug that was affecting IOS devices.
I'm also a light user in general so my phones tend to last me about 2 days.
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Yeah, I don't really understand most of the criticism the nexus 5X is receiving. Most seem really nitpicky. Almost like the larger bezels and 2gb of RAM has colored many people's impressions of the rest of the phone. So much was expected of this phone that it kind of broke some hearts and stung em up, so now trash talking. It doesn't help that there is a 6P, that allows you to still get a nexus and trash talk a nexus.
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Only thing making me hold off on the 5x and lean towards the 6p are the 128gb storage, 3gb RAM and the bigger battery. The metal build would be nicer, but the 5x is a better size imo. The stereo speakers would be nice, but I almost always use headphones or Bluetooth. Everything else looks great with the 5x. I just don't know if it would feel like an upgrade from my n5. I even prefer the color "wash out"
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