Best value UK Microsim for 3g Nexus? - Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi,
I'm totally new to all this, but would like my Nexus to have the ability to work on 3g. I'd like to be able to send emails and surf the web, so ~200mb would suffice a month at a push. What are the best UK providers for this? Do you have such a thing as Pay as You Go for Data plans or are they a rip off?
I'd also be interested in the SMS side of things potentially and in an ideal world, I'd like a second sim from my current provider (Orange) for my existing number to allow that. That would "ideally" let me pick up sms messages as well as my emails on my tablet. To be honest its rare I actually make a voice call these days.
Thanks and apologies if this has been asked multiple times or if its bleedin' simplistic.
PS...oh and do any providers prevent you from using their "voice and data" plans on a tablet, because - for instance - it would make much more sense to buy a £10 a month vox, sms and 1gb data plan from giff gaff, than their £7.50 a month 1gb data plan.

I ordered a pay as you go sim from Amazon (with the 3 network). This is preloaded with 3GB of data that expires after 3 months at a cost of £10.70 for the sim.

I'm on the GiffGaff 3gb data only sim, no sms or calls of course. l've not found a better price for1gb than their £7.50 but look at the voice/data goodybags to see if one suits you.

T-Mobile PAYG offers a great deal
Buy a PAYG Microsim add £20
Text 6 Month web to 441
£20 gives you net access for 6 months, there is a notional limit of 750mb a month for streaming/torrents but all other services are totally unlimited even when you hit the 750mb for streaming/torrents you just get throttled on the streaming/torrents. Never affects Web/Email/ etc
I have used one in my iPad for the past couple of years and just got one for the Nexus, works great
IF you have access to an iPhone 4 or 4S you can get it even cheaper if you are prepared to jump through hoops
Buy PAYG Sim for £10 (With £10 credit from T-Mobile Online), when it arrives put it in iPhone 4 or 4S to activate it and text FREE 12 MONTH WEB to 441, wait a couple of hours for the reply text saying its activated you can then take it out and use it in your Nexus 7 and still get the free 12 Months Internet (Same limits as above).
Link to £10 Sim with Free 12 Months Internet (Needs iPhone 4 or 4s to Activate)
http://www.t-mobile.co.uk/shop/sim-card-only/
Link to Other Internet Booster Codes on T-Mobile
http://www.t-mobile.co.uk/shop/mobile-phones/price-plans/pay-as-you-go/boosters/

Thanks for the prompt and helpful replies all.
I am quite tempted by the Talk Talk offer, as it looks like it will also work with SMS (and voice if people figure out how to do that).
So all I do is order a preloaded simcard from http://www.t-mobile.co.uk/shop/sim-card-only/ (I was thinking I might as well get the combi sim as it seems to be the same cost and I could "theoretically" use it in my normal phone if I need to).
I dont buy any other options and wait for it to arrive.
When it arrives, I grovel to my fiancee's son and ask to use his iphone 4S for a couple of hours. Then pop in the new sim, text that SMS, wait until a text is sent back. Pop it in my Nexus and I get 12 months worth of free internet for sod all? How are they making any money out of this?
I've just ordered a giffgaff combined sim card as they are free and I can use that if the iphone text offer expires before I get my mitts on the T-Mobile sim

AngeleDei said:
Thanks for the prompt and helpful replies all.
I am quite tempted by the Talk Talk offer, as it looks like it will also work with SMS (and voice if people figure out how to do that).
So all I do is order a preloaded simcard from http://www.t-mobile.co.uk/shop/sim-card-only/ (I was thinking I might as well get the combi sim as it seems to be the same cost and I could "theoretically" use it in my normal phone if I need to).
I dont buy any other options and wait for it to arrive.
When it arrives, I grovel to my fiancee's son and ask to use his iphone 4S for a couple of hours. Then pop in the new sim, text that SMS, wait until a text is sent back. Pop it in my Nexus and I get 12 months worth of free internet for sod all? How are they making any money out of this?
I've just ordered a giffgaff combined sim card as they are free and I can use that if the iphone text offer expires before I get my mitts on the T-Mobile sim
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DONT ORDER THE COMBI SIM - Offer is only on the iPhone Microsim, (It comes supplied as a popout Combisim anyway), but you must order the iPhone Microsim pack to qualify for the free 12 months net.
Couple of tricks,
1: If you use Quidco they give £15 cashback on t-mobile PAYG Preloaded Sims, so you Pay £10 but get £15 cashback (So you are already in profit)
2: It takes 48 hours for the free credit to add, but if you phone customer services as soon as the sim arrives and say the £10 credit is missing they will manually add it, then after 48 hours the other £10 will add so you get £20 credit
Once your free year is up you can add the 6MONTHWEB using the £20 credit you have,
So a total of 18Months Internet Access and you are still £5 in profit taking the cashback into account
Depends on how many hoops you want to jump through for a few extra quid saving.
I have had a few of these now for varius devices and they are great, never once had any problems with them..

It looks like quidco is now offering "only" £7.50 cashback on sims, but that still makes it almost free.
I'll order one now...the iphone one. Thanks.

AngeleDei said:
It looks like quidco is now offering "only" £7.50 cashback on sims, but that still makes it almost free.
I'll order one now...the iphone one. Thanks.
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Don't Worry it will track at £15 once the order goes through
Quidco Screengrab below

Thanks again all.
I've ordered a free giff gaff sim and paid for the T-mobile sim. I "think" the quidco deal is no more, but I ordered it via there anyways as it doesnt hurt.
Hopefully this thread will also help anyone else in a similar situation.

Hi all
With my N7 3G I'm using a free service (in exchange for watching ads) called Samba.
Very happy with it so far.
Quoting myself...
Hi all
If you are in the UK and thinking of getting a Nexus 7 3G the following service might be of interest to you.
The company is called Samba Mobile and provides mobile broadband in exchange for "watching" ads.
Edit: Just to clarify, you can watch the ads whenever, from any computer/tablet/phone..., to accumulate credit.
It's not a service that interrupts your browsing in order to make you watch an ad.
By the way, I'm not a Samba employee.
Why pay for mobile broadband?
Buy a SIM for £5, or a dongle & SIM for £25, and never pay for broadband on the go again.
Samba is the smart way to get connected – we give you free internet and in return you select and watch high quality adverts. You choose what to watch and when to watch it.
Samba is available for 3G tablet & laptop owners and we use the best mobile data network (Three) in the UK.
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I have been a Samba user for less than 2 weeks and I've already clocked up 650mb of "credit". :victory:
For more info please click here.
To get the SIM for £2.50 (vs £5.00) or a 10% discount on the dongle+SIM package please click here.
The last link is a "Refer a friend" one, so I would get £2.50 if you do subscribe through it.
I'll remove it if it is against forum rules.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1981945

Wouldn't it be best paying £12 for unlimited internet texts and 250 minutes from giffgaff, and like not use the minutes and texts? Or you could put it in your phone for an emergency? Or use giffgaff as your main provider and tether so there's no extra charge?
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xT4Z1N4TRx said:
Wouldn't it be best paying £12 for unlimited internet texts and 250 minutes from giffgaff, and like not use the minutes and texts? Or you could put it in your phone for an emergency? Or use giffgaff as your main provider and tether so there's no extra charge?
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Technically its a breach of GiffGaff rules, iPads/Tablets are excluded from use with the Voice/Data packages, although a lot of people do it, they are supossed to be tightening up and blocking this type of use and unauthorised tethering as well, although only time will tell.

Orange SIM option
Another option for low data users is this Orange SIM with £5 credit for 99p.
It's only 240mb per month but lasts 12 months. I've yet to use the data from it but others have reported success in their Nexus 7. I simply put the SIM in the N7 (in my case, the very first time I switched it on) and shortly after I received a message on it that the SIM was now active. I haven't even had to activate the free £5 credit as yet, though I'm going to of course.
There doesn't appear to be any downside (assuming your data use is low enough) unless anyone knows better. I only intend using the 3G very sparingly when out and about so I hope that it will be enough for me. If not, I try a SIM with a larger allowance.

Go to ovivomobile.com, order a £10 data sim and get 500mb of data per month without ever having to top up. I have been using them for the last 2 months without any problems.
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simacca said:
Go to ovivomobile.com, order a £10 data sim and get 500mb of data per month without ever having to top up. I have been using them for the last 2 months without any problems.
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So, genuinely 500mb per month "for life"* for a one-off £10? Not bad if 240mb on Orange isn't enough.
*Where "life" means as long as they decide or as long as the company survives.

Droideka77 said:
So, genuinely 500mb per month "for life"* for a one-off £10? Not bad if 240mb on Orange isn't enough.
*Where "life" means as long as they decide or as long as the company survives.
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It does seem to good to be true, but has been working fine for me. They also do similar with minutes and texts. They use the Vodafone network and you can buy top up packs if you need them.
Edit: I also use one in my back up phone and get 100 mins, 100 texts and 300 mb of data every month just for the price of the sim card.
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simacca said:
It does seem to good to be true, but has been working fine for me. They also do similar with minutes and texts. They use the Vodafone network and you can buy top up packs if you need them.
Edit: I also use one in my back up phone and get 100 mins, 100 texts and 300 mb of data every month just for the price of the sim card.
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I'm getting one right away. Can I move seamlessly between the tablet and phone plan?

yinkus said:
I'm getting one right away. Can I move seamlessly between the tablet and phone plan?
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Yes. You just log into your account and fill out a short form requesting a switch.
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Aleemz said:
I ordered a pay as you go sim from Amazon (with the 3 network). This is preloaded with 3GB of data that expires after 3 months at a cost of £10.70 for the sim.
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this is what I've done tbf, easier than getting tired into any sort of contract

yinkus said:
I'm getting one right away. Can I move seamlessly between the tablet and phone plan?
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simacca said:
Yes. You just log into your account and fill out a short form requesting a switch.
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Got 2, one for my Nexus 7 and the phone plan for my back-up phone. Great so far but we'll see.

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where to get a HD2 and how...

I appreciate that quite a few of you have now got one but some of us are still struggling to get our paws on one Personally I want one through o2 but cant seem to get to the front of the queue for placing an order! I could jump ship but would like to stick with them so the burning question is how did you guys do it? Did those of you on o2 get it through a 3rd party eg: paid towards it with someone like carphone warehouse or bmobiles or did you wander into a store who happened to have one fall through their letterbox as you stepped in? When you've had to put up with o2 telling you contradicting "pork pies" about how they haven't shipped any and dont do it yet it makes you start to wonder
terrytpot said:
I appreciate that quite a few of you have now got one but some of us are still struggling to get our paws on one Personally I want one through o2 but cant seem to get to the front of the queue for placing an order! I could jump ship but would like to stick with them so the burning question is how did you guys do it? Did those of you on o2 get it through a 3rd party eg: paid towards it with someone like carphone warehouse or bmobiles or did you wander into a store who happened to have one fall through their letterbox as you stepped in? When you've had to put up with o2 telling you contradicting "pork pies" about how they haven't shipped any and dont do it yet it makes you start to wonder
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Personally, I bought mine outright from Expansys.com, SIM free. I've got a monthly contract with O2 where I get enough minutes and texts with a web bolt-on for less than £20 a month. It suits me, but then I had £500 to spare (ish )
I always like the idea of going SIM free, in case something comes out that I really want but can't afford it. I'll just get an 18 or 24 month contract in that situtation, and probably try and get something like a PS3 with it, so I can sell my current phone and the console, so I'll end up with a new phone and a wad of cash. That should help make me feel better about signing up to a contract
Since I went the SIM free route, I can't really advise on who has them and who doesn't, as far as contracts go.
terrytpot said:
I appreciate that quite a few of you have now got one but some of us are still struggling to get our paws on one Personally I want one through o2 but cant seem to get to the front of the queue for placing an order! I could jump ship but would like to stick with them so the burning question is how did you guys do it? Did those of you on o2 get it through a 3rd party eg: paid towards it with someone like carphone warehouse or bmobiles or did you wander into a store who happened to have one fall through their letterbox as you stepped in? When you've had to put up with o2 telling you contradicting "pork pies" about how they haven't shipped any and dont do it yet it makes you start to wonder
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Bad news on the O2 front, they finally had some in store yesterday so I could go over and find out what they will be costing on contract. To get it for free you have to sign up for a £45/month contract and that only gives you 1200mins and 500texts. You dont even get the internet package that you get with the iphone. Go for a lower tarif package and you are looking at £100 for the phone..
I will be waiting til vodafone get new stock (with an updated rom) on 11th December. Free phone for £35/month and you get 900mins UNLIMITED texts (3000 FUP), UNLIMITED landline calls (3000mins FUP), UNLIMITED internet (500MB FUP). Plus the vodafone HD's seem to be unlocked and unbranded so in my opinion thats a winning deal and well worth the wait
Each to their own mskip..you do know that the deal you're looking at gets you an extra 300mins if you do it online? all of course assuming that you can live with them making you wait for an indefinate period of time to despatch it
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Each to their own mskip..you do know that the deal you're looking at gets you an extra 300mins if you do it online? all of course assuming that you can live with them making you wait for an indefinate period of time to despatch it
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Yeah actually the 300 extra minutes is available online or over the phone. Over the phone the order gets processed right away for next day delivery so I think im gona be doing it that way lol. Waited long enough for it I figure my patience will stretch to a few more days
Could have got it from a vodafone store 2 weeks ago but they dont offer the internet package and I guess im a tight git I want the most value for my money haha.
we're singing from the same book there buddy..I'm hoping to get one on something like the palms tarif and preferably as a business customer..unltd 02 calls,10 unltd land lines and ultd www would do me nicely at £35 ish a mnth even over 24mths as you can upgrade at the 12mth point and get whtaevers hot then
You guys are making me jealous :\
Back here in Portugal you pay 15 euros for a 100min plan plus 15€/month for a 500MB data plan...
Just try some different vodafone stores, I went to 20 different and one could tell me 2 weeks ago that they would get one that afternoon so I directly reserved it. If you can't find any on stock the next shipment will come in on 17th of december (north ireland).
Its free with a 35 pounds bussines plan it includes 1000 minutes, Unlimited texts, Unlimited Landlines, Unlimited Internet and Vodafone Passport.
Good luck!
mskip said:
To get it for free you have to sign up for a £45/month contract and that only gives you 1200mins and 500texts. You dont even get the internet package that you get with the iphone. Go for a lower tarif package and you are looking at £100 for the phone..
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Not strictly true. I performed my upgrade two weeks ago yesterday when O2 first got them in stock. I did what I always do when going for an upgrade, threaten to leave. I was told a £35, 18 month tariff would mean the phone would cost £98. I asked to be put through to retentions where I asked for my PAC code. When they asked why I explained I wasn't happy with the fact O2 wanted to charge me £100 for a phone I can get from Vodafone for nothing (not strictly true but he didn't appear to realise that). After a few more persuasive arguments and another threat to leave, he said he 'managed' to get the phone down to £1.72 for me on an 18 month, £35 tariff with 600 minutes, 1000 texts and unlimited data (or 750mb to be precise).
However, I have heard they have cottoned onto people doing this and are now refusing point blank to offer the phone for less than £98. It's got to be worth a shot though.
mskip said:
You dont even get the internet package that you get with the iphone.
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You sure about that? I got unlimited data the same as the iPhone on a £35 a month tariff. Oh, and be careful with Vodafone's fair usage data policy, you get charged as soon as you go over 500mb, even in the first month. O2's is much better, you have to go over 750mb on a regular basis before they threaten to charge you.
EDIT: just checked and you're wrong there mate - you get a free bolton that you select yourself on all tariffs including and above the 600 minute £35 a month one. One of the selectable boltons is for unlimited web/data. Check the link out.
http://shop.o2.co.uk/tariffs/18_months
Pagnell said:
he 'managed' to get the phone down to £1.72 for me on an 18 month, £35 tariff with 600 minutes, 1000 texts and unlimited data (or 750mb to be precise).
now refusing point blank to offer the phone for less than £98. It's got to be worth a shot though.
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which as a "retention deal for a valued customer" is still pretty poor when for only £5 more at vodafone you'll get 1200minutes,ultd texts,ultd data (fup 500mb?) AND ultd landlines over 18mths,oh and that's with the phone for free...what would an extra £5 at o2 get you?not that much I'll guarantee..it seems o2 think they have their customers over a barrel at the moment due to this phones popularity which will no doubt see them losing quite a few punters in the short term! Why they didn't just put it on the same tariff as the Palm Pre is beyond me and is the deal I would/intend to snap up as soon as I can.
terrytpot said:
which as a "retention deal for a valued customer" is still pretty poor when for only £5 more at vodafone you'll get 1200minutes,ultd texts,ultd data (fup 500mb?) AND ultd landlines over 18mths,oh and that's with the phone for free...what would an extra £5 at o2 get you?not that much I'll guarantee..it seems o2 think they have their customers over a barrel at the moment due to this phones popularity which will no doubt see them losing quite a few punters in the short term! Why they didn't just put it on the same tariff as the Palm Pre is beyond me and is the deal I would/intend to snap up as soon as I can.
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Yes, but I'd rather pay a little bit extra to avoid Vodafone as I think they're an awful network.
As for the deal you mention, as I never go over my 600 minutes anyway, the extras you speak of mean little to me even if they do only cost £5 more. 1000 texts is effectively unlimited to the vast majority of people and O2's unlimited web deal is better for reasons I pointed out above and that is something I use a lot.
No, I'll stick to O2 thanks and I suggest you do the same.
Pagnell said:
Not strictly true. I performed my upgrade two weeks ago yesterday when O2 first got them in stock. I did what I always do when going for an upgrade, threaten to leave. I was told a £35, 18 month tariff would mean the phone would cost £98. I asked to be put through to retentions where I asked for my PAC code. When they asked why I explained I wasn't happy with the fact O2 wanted to charge me £100 for a phone I can get from Vodafone for nothing (not strictly true but he didn't appear to realise that). After a few more persuasive arguments and another threat to leave, he said he 'managed' to get the phone down to £1.72 for me on an 18 month, £35 tariff with 600 minutes, 1000 texts and unlimited data (or 750mb to be precise).
However, I have heard they have cottoned onto people doing this and are now refusing point blank to offer the phone for less than £98. It's got to be worth a shot though.
You sure about that? I got unlimited data the same as the iPhone on a £35 a month tariff. Oh, and be careful with Vodafone's fair usage data policy, you get charged as soon as you go over 500mb, even in the first month. O2's is much better, you have to go over 750mb on a regular basis before they threaten to charge you.
EDIT: just checked and you're wrong there mate - you get a free bolton that you select yourself on all tariffs including and above the 600 minute £35 a month one. One of the selectable boltons is for unlimited web/data. Check the link out.
http://shop.o2.co.uk/tariffs/18_months
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Its alot easier to get a better deal if you are already with your provider and go for an upgrade. At the moment im with orange and they have absolutely nothing worth getting right now (except the iphone 3gs lol) which means I have to goto a new network
I think everyone you talk to will give you different information. For example in the O2 shop I was told the data bolt on was upto 500MB but in the terms and conditions on the website it says unlimited. In the vodafone store and on the phone I have been told that if you go over your 500MB FUP then you will be contacted and that you will definitely not be charged extra for going over the limit. I know that with the O2 bolt on you arent allowed to used your phone as a modem or for video/audio streaming unless you pay extra which is why they have taken youtube off their roms and is pretty stupid really.
You are right that you can get a free bolt on with O2 but with only 500 texts available instore (I think its doubled to 1000 online) its still not enough for me in business use and I would need that bolt on to upgrade to unlimited texts. That of course means I need to pay extra for the data bolt on
Also with vodafone giving unlimited landline calls it means I can do most of my business calls for free and leave my included minutes for family and friends
I know everyone has their prefered network but for everything they are including and the much cheaper tarif I think my only option is vodafone I just hope the stock comes in on the 11th after putting it back 2 times . When I rang htc yesterday they said the delay was because they are putting extra software on for vodafone so im assuming thats the 360 software.
I fully intend to its just a matter of getting the right deal (although I could say any deal at the moment with o2!) I've never tried voda myself but as I get through over 2000mins/mth on o2 (ultd o2's and got all my buddies using them too)straying isn't a very attractive option to me and as for texts,dont use them at all (think my avg over the last mth was 2!)
spastik said:
You guys are making me jealous :\
Back here in Portugal you pay 15 euros for a 100min plan plus 15€/month for a 500MB data plan...
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Consider yourself lucky..
Here in Belgium, you have to pay 20€ for a 85 minute plan (no free sms) + 20€/Month for 200Mb data (or 25€ for 500Mb)
If you want unlimited voice, unlimited sms, but no data, it'll cost you 89€
Also note that you have to buy the phone full price (paid 570€ for the HD2), there are no offers combining a phone and a plan.
I don't think there are many countries where the phone and internet plans (don't get me started on those ) are that expensive
terrytpot said:
I fully intend to its just a matter of getting the right deal (although I could say any deal at the moment with o2!) I've never tried voda myself but as I get through over 2000mins/mth on o2 (ultd o2's and got all my buddies using them too)straying isn't a very attractive option to me and as for texts,dont use them at all (think my avg over the last mth was 2!)
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2 texts a month you CRAZYYY person haha I think my average with sending out quotes and texting clients and friends is about 2500 a month
Mithrandir007 said:
Consider yourself lucky..
Here in Belgium, you have to pay 20€ for a 85 minute plan (no free sms) + 20€/Month for 200Mb data (or 25€ for 500Mb)
If you want unlimited voice, unlimited sms, but no data, it'll cost you 89€
Also note that you have to buy the phone full price (paid 570€ for the HD2), there are no offers combining a phone and a plan.
I don't think there are many countries where the phone and internet plans (don't get me started on those ) are that expensive
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OMGG thats madd I dont think I would have a mobile phone if I had to fork out that every month ontop of paying full whack for it as well
You should move to the uk lol
mskip said:
Its alot easier to get a better deal if you are already with your provider and go for an upgrade. At the moment im with orange and they have absolutely nothing worth getting right now (except the iphone 3gs lol) which means I have to goto a new network
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Indeed. I don't think the HD2 is available to new customers on O2 yet, it certainly isn't listed as being available on their website. Which is ridiculous considering I have had it for over two weeks.
mskip said:
I think everyone you talk to will give you different information. For example in the O2 shop I was told the data bolt on was upto 500MB but in the terms and conditions on the website it says unlimited. In the vodafone store and on the phone I have been told that if you go over your 500MB FUP then you will be contacted and that you will definitely not be charged extra for going over the limit. I know that with the O2 bolt on you arent allowed to used your phone as a modem or for video/audio streaming unless you pay extra which is why they have taken youtube off their roms and is pretty stupid really.
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My O2 branded HD2 has/had Youtube on it, although they had removed the Wi-Fi router. However, I have just used a goldcard to upgrade my firmware to 1.48 which has effectively turned it into a sim-free model and put the wi-fi router option back. As for O2 not allowing tethering, I do it anyway the same way I used to on my iPhone. Providing you don't take the p**s and download 1gb+ a month they have no way of determining the difference between you browsing on the phone and browsing on your laptop through it.
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My O2 branded HD2 has/had Youtube on it, although they had removed the Wi-Fi router. However, I have just used a goldcard to upgrade my firmware to 1.48 which has effectively turned it into a sim-free model and put the wi-fi router option back. As for O2 not allowing tethering, I do it anyway the same way I used to on my iPhone. Providing you don't take the p**s and download 1gb+ a month they have no way of determining the difference between you browsing on the phone and browsing on your laptop through it.
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I'm glad you mentioned that actually..my first "chats" with o2 to get this on a business account led me to inquire about the cost of 3gb data allowance..I was quite prepared to stump up £15/mth so I could ditch the dongle from 3 that I use only to be told that 3gb of data would cost me £405/mth,yes,thats right £405.00 a month! so what if all the sharers on the account get to share it,its still £405 and there's only me on the contract! and to cap it all the woman in question wanted me to pay towards the phone as well!!!
Got a few days ago a update from a friend that works at a vodafone store, just after I got mine they were all called from the vodafone warehouse to HTC because they wanted to fix first some (in my eyes minor) bugs like the pink camera problem...
just like we were told o2 did then...

Tmobile 3rd party sellers.. HSDPA?

looking at buying the desire HD before the new policy changes take effect in a few days... but i heard something saying that only android phones bought direct from Tmobile will be eligible for 3GB allowance and HSDPA connection speeds?
I have looked at Tmobile prices and frankly there rediculous...
Is there no way to buy cheaper through a 3rd party seller and still get the 3GB and fast connection speeds?
I did find 1 3rd party seller who states on the page itself ..
`*Fair use policy applies to Unlimited Internet: so you get up to 1GB with standard phones and and when you get the Internet flexible booster; up to 3GB with Andriod phones and 50MB with the BlackBerry email booster.`
so now im wondering if they just dont know about the 3rd party seller restrictions?
thanks for any help...... desperate to get it sorted before the 500mb comes into force,,
What prices have you seen? The t mobile prices seem very reasonable to me...
I forgot to mention, its always worth calling them and asking them to please you. It can help if you are an old customer, but not always! I have 900 mins, 500 texts, 3gb net, and two flexible boosters (ultd texts and ultd landline calls) for about 30 quid a month
As of today if you buy a T-Mobile contract which is non-Android (give away is that they sell the "unlimited broadband" via a free booster you will have a 1GB FUP but more importantly your data speed is capped to 360Kbps.
I had this "problem" when I bought my DHD from mobiles.co.uk. However a quick call to T-Mobile to log a "fault" with my mobile data saw me moved happily onto the standard Android setup - ie where a booster is not used for the unlimited broadband.
direct with T-mobile , they give you the 3GB on top for android phones, still got your booster to use.
3rd party, they use the booster for the basic unlimited 1gb internet.
Note, go via quidco, as new direct t-mobile contracts pays you £80 back.
i think direct works out the same if you take into account the extra booster and use / need it. For me the £5 euro talk and text saves me a few quid, as i pop into the eurozone a fair bit.
my contracts up for renewal on the 24th, so gotta get it sorted before 1st feb too, or ill have to go to 3
Giffgaff.com unlimited data unlimited texts 200min that's all for 10£
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Giffgaff.com unlimited data unlimited texts 200min that's all for 10£
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just had a look, ( 250mins now btw ) they are a sim only provider, so not that great a deal compared to contracts when looking at 24 months with a phone deals.
Looking for 500/600ish mins per month, and giffgaffs £20pm x24 £480 not much more with tmobile and ill get a DHD oh and some euro calls.
Nice if you allready have a decent phone tho
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After another phone call to Tmob.. retentions offerdf me there best price for the DHD,,, was a joke,,, basicly 40 quid a month... the same deal any normal new customer can buy it for from the website.... needless to say i declined..
Phoned back laster to ask about the 3rd party reseller thing and the 3gb/faster data speeds... and was told that yes... if i buy my phone from somewhere like CPW or MPD.. it would only have the standard 1gb and slower data connection speed..... if bought from tmob them i would have 3gb/faster data connection as standard.... but ,, 40 quid??
After a few more questions she also mentioned that `official` 3rd party Tmob resellers also would have the 3gb/fast data on there android contracts..
I didnt even know of such places.... but phoned 1 this morning... and got a great deal on an upgrade...
Basicly 600 mins... 500 texts.. 3gb allowance with extra booster of my choice...(unlimited land line calls).. for £25 a month (although had to pay 30 quid up front for the DHD)
well pleased with that
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kBasicly 600 mins... 500 texts.. 3gb allowance with extra booster of my choice...(unlimited land line calls).. for £25 a month (although had to pay 30 quid up front for the DHD)
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who did you get that from?????
Daz555 said:
As of today if you buy a T-Mobile contract which is non-Android (give away is that they sell the "unlimited broadband" via a free booster you will have a 1GB FUP but more importantly your data speed is capped to 360Kbps.
I had this "problem" when I bought my DHD from mobiles.co.uk. However a quick call to T-Mobile to log a "fault" with my mobile data saw me moved happily onto the standard Android setup - ie where a booster is not used for the unlimited broadband.
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I got my DHD from mobiles.co.uk just under 2 weeks ago but i haven't yet used the new sim card. Once i start using it next month am i likely to be restricted or should i be ok since i got it almost 2 weeks ago?
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I got my DHD from mobiles.co.uk just under 2 weeks ago but i haven't yet used the new sim card. Once i start using it next month am i likely to be restricted or should i be ok since i got it almost 2 weeks ago?
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Probably restricted, I was when I first received mine from mobiles.co.uk. As said above though, just give t-mob a call and explain your internet is slower than expected, as long as you get a decent enough/stupid enough operator they should upgrade you to the full 3gb and release an extra add-on. I did exactly this, she didn't query where I bought the phone from and simply said "oh yes, looks like someone messed up on your order, i'll change that to unlimited internet now which also free's up a booster for you, which would you like?" Sorted.
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Place online called Chitterchatter,,,, i had never heard of em untill the Tmobile rep told me they were a accepted reseller.... glad i tried em
Know the shops, they are T-Mobile only highstreet sellers
And walked passed one an hour ago, may pop back Monday
my deal was for an upgrade,,,,, but they still do a crackin deal on a new contract too,,
FREE Screen Protector and Car Holder with HTC Desire HD
* 900 minutes
* 500 texts
* £30 per month 24 month contract
* Handset Free
i woulda went with this if they hadnt sorted out the £25pm line rental...
couldn't do that deal for me wanted £125 on top for the phone,
went direct with T-mobile in the end.
£30.64 per month 24months = £735.36 !
900min
500 texts
3GB internet
And euro booster
phone cost £0
Similar deal here when I upgraded on T-Mobile a few weeks ago. After calling 150 and telling them all the upgrade deals on their website sucked, they tempted me to stay with £30 p/m, free Desire HD, 600 any time / any network minutes, unlimited texts (with booster) and I'm still on the 3GB data plan. The best bit is they had no phones in stock so let me pick one up from my local Car Phone Warehouse... so it was unlocked and unbranded
I've taken my from third party reseller few months a go. (It was normal desire but I've sold it and bought dhd)
Sent email to tmobile after purchase that my internet is slow and received txt that I've used 80% of my allowance (by 3g watchdog i've used only 800mb)
They fixed that gave me 3gb allowance and hsdpa speed but didn't leave me a extra booster. My miss is in Italy and I had to ring her so decided to call tmobile first and tell them I can't pick my free booster. Guy over the phone put a booster for me and what is better reset my together rewards (i've used it few days a go).
So now I have normal plan like I would buy it directly from tmobile and what's better for £25 I have:
900min
600txt
3gb internet
Booster
Desire HD
Wicked!!!
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[Q] Best pay-as-you-go data plan?

I have a Blackberry supplied by my employer. I can't use it for personal e-mail and Web content is very limited. I'd like to get a smart phone for personal use but wouldn't use it enough to warrant a full plan under my wireless carrier (AT&T). Does anyone have any pay-as-you-go or cheap data-only plan and carrier suggestions? My MB usage would be low as it's really just for e-mail and a small amount of Web use. I'm located in Florida.
i wud say THREE 3 , there best for price plans , but signal isnt all that well . its certain areas .
i pay 15 pound a month and get 600 mins, 3000 texts, 1gb internet . i dont use 600 mins so i wanna go down to £10 a month 300 mins 3000 texts 1gb internet .
hope this helped
just seen ur in florida . sorry , any1 else this may help
three do a good deal for 15.00 a month like the other poster states , but it now offers unlimited internet (yep truely unlimited) same minutes and texts etc, good deal , plus if you buy through say quidco or topcashback websites , you will get a nice rebate also
Virgin Mobile may be your best bet. $25 for unlimited text, data, email etc. and 300 minutes.
http://www.virginmobileusa.com/cell-phone-plans/beyond-talk-plans.jsp
three in uk is best for data plan..
I have the £15 month all you can eat (its not unlimited as most think see the terms and conditions) 80gig data a month yep 80 gig!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I have the normal pay and go topup monthly (not rolling contract) which is 300 mins 3000 texts and 80gig a month the rolling contract is 600 mins and 6000 texts and 80gig a month data.. its £15 no matter which plan you go for..., so pick best for you.
signal is not always the best but data speed is best every had. And does tend to work most every where I go(inc most mountain areas but not all but this is same across the networks)....
word of warning they will soon be stopping the all you can eat sim!!!(friend works for them and told me after I bought it) so get it whilst you can...
Sometimes I wish I was in the UK but I am in the States (Florida). Virgin seems to be the best bet for now. I will go by a local AT&T store to see if they will offer me an unadvertised deal, though. Thanks!
Florida resident here, I'm with tmobile, have 5 phones and a broadband stick. Pay about $200 a month, data, unlimited voice and text on even more plus plan. I'm decently happy with the service. For me, I work at a car dealership, and tmobile gives me a discount for being a "Kia" employee although I technically work for many different dealerships.
Straight Talk I think would be a good choice for you. They have a nice $30/month plan that would work well for you. Check out the Howard Forums Straight Talk threads for info on how to use one of their sim cards in a phone of your choice.
AT&T just took away my unlimited data plan since I upgraded to a Nexus One... I will likely be switching to Straight Talk at the end of the month.
Edit: I forgot to mention that they use AT&T's towers!
If all of this is true Straight Talk may just take over the market I know once get my hands the right equipment they might just win me over!!
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Straight Talk I think would be a good choice for you. They have a nice $30/month plan that would work well for you. Check out the Howard Forums Straight Talk threads for info on how to use one of their sim cards in a phone of your choice.
AT&T just took away my unlimited data plan since I upgraded to a Nexus One... I will likely be switching to Straight Talk at the end of the month.
Edit: I forgot to mention that they use AT&T's towers!
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Do you by chance have a link for this I've searched and haven't found it? Thank you in advance
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Ack, sorry I took forever to reply.
Here is the link to the threads: http://www.howardforums.com/forumdisplay.php/551-Straight-Talk

High data contract deals on the One (UK)

Hey all, yes I have searched through the various threads and used search but not finding very much posted about this anywhere so please don't all jump on me at once for creating another contracts thread...I want one specifically for high data users that will be buying or already own the 'One'.
I specifically use a fairly large amount of data, Usually around the 2.5gb mark each month. Sometimes bordering on 3gb....
Anyone else use this sort of data? If so who have you got a contract with?
Or if I'm the only one that has such a large data usage, how the hell do you all keep yours so low? I use wifi at home as well so in the mornings and evenings and most of the weekends I'm using that rather than my mobile data. But still somehow using lots of data (and no I'm not tethering. Have done once, but it's not regularly part of my usage)
So yeh, basically. Any tips on good deals with high data, low calls and texts, or tips on how to keep data usage down??
And although this could have been posted as a question, I would assume that there are other high data users that will be interested in the info posted here.
Re: High data contract deals UK
I've went with 3 as they're the only company that do Unlimited data as far as i know.
The War Horse said:
Hey all, yes I have searched through the various threads and used search but not finding very much posted about this anywhere so please don't all jump on me at once for creating another contracts thread...I want one specifically for high data users.
I specifically use a fairly large amount of data, Usually around the 2.5gb mark each month. Sometimes bordering on 3gb....
Anyone else use this sort of data? If so who have you got a contract with?
Or if I'm the only one that has such a large data usage, how the hell do you all keep yours so low? I use wifi at home as well so in the mornings and evenings and most of the weekends I'm using that rather than my mobile data. But still somehow using lots of data (and no I'm not tethering. Have done once, but it's not regularly part of my usage)
So yeh, basically. Any tips on good deals with high data, low calls and texts, or tips on how to keep data usage down??
And although this could have been posted as a question, I would assume that there are other high data users that will be interested in the info posted here.
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There are only three options for contracts for high (>1GB) data users. The best choice is the One plan from Three which gives you truly unlimited data including tethering and generally has good coverage IMHO. You can get a HTC One on the One Plan for £36/month on a 24 month plan.
The other option is the Full Monty plan from T-Mobile. Also a relatively expensive option vs. the very cheap Orange 1GB deals on dial-a-phone for example but it does give you unlimited data. I think is also £36/month but with £70 up front.
Alternatively you could get a 3 or 5 GB 4G plan from EE but that is the most expensive option and not unlimited but does give you high usage options and is 4G. (3GB is £46/month and 5GB £51/month)
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My ee contract is £33.50 a month for 1000 mins 2000 texts and 4gb of data .
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I've went with 3 as they're the only company that do Unlimited data as far as i know.
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They are amazing for data but are totally crap as far as CS goes so it'll be good to see any other possible options as I too am only aware of them as being good for high data users
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There are only three options for contracts for high (>1GB) data users. The best choice is the One plan from Three which gives you truly unlimited data including tethering and generally has good coverage IMHO. You can get a HTC One on the One Plan for £36/month on a 24 month plan.
The other option is the Full Monty plan from T-Mobile. Also a relatively expensive option vs. the very cheap Orange 1GB deals on dial-a-phone for example but it does give you unlimited data. I think is also £36/month but with £70 up front.
Alternatively you could get a 3 or 5 GB 4G plan from EE but that is the most expensive option and not unlimited but does give you high usage options and is 4G. (3GB is £46/month and 5GB £51/month)
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I think T-Mobiles 'Unlimited' data is in-fact really quite limited. Something like 1.5gb data I think, but I could be wrong
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My ee contract is £33.50 a month for 1000 mins 2000 texts and 4gb of data .
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Where did you get this deal? And was it an upgrade?
Just out of interest, I've added a poll because I would really be interested in knowing what the data plans people have bought their one with......It seems not many have super high usage so I'd like to see what the rough figures were so far.....Are heavy users really as rare as they seem?
anything less than 1GB seems odd
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anything less than 1GB seems odd
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You never know. Lots of people I know use about 500 so maybe I'm just a madman for using almost 3gb lol.
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I decided to buy the handset SIM-free and then put a GiffGaff SIM in it. For £12 a month I get 250 minutes, unlimited texts and unlimited data, and I can cancel that any time I like, even just a single day before my next payment is taken.
Virgin has some quite good SIM-only deals too; if you don't mind being limited to 300 free texts a month, you can get unlimited data for £10 a month top-up.
My thinking was that, right now, I really don't want to get locked into a long contract because it's not at all clear what the different providers' 4G services are going to be like.
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I decided to buy the handset SIM-free and then put a GiffGaff SIM in it. For £12 a month I get 250 minutes, unlimited texts and unlimited data, and I can cancel that any time I like, even just a single day before my next payment is taken.
Virgin has some quite good SIM-only deals too; if you don't mind being limited to 300 free texts a month, you can get unlimited data for £10 a month top-up.
My thinking was that, right now, I really don't want to get locked into a long contract because it's not at all clear what the different providers' 4G services are going to be like.
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I tried GiffGaff for a while last year but found they do very heavy image compression on their network which makes using the internet and any apps with images really really ugly with pixellated images. There was no way to turn this off. I don't know if this has since changed though.
one of 3's All you can eat plans all the way due to free upgrade to 4G at no extra cost when launched in the Summer
Yes 3 do definitely the best all you can eat packages. But its annoying how they know you don't really have any other option hence they.don't bend on price at all!
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I am in the same boat . I use anywhere from 6GB to 9GB per month as I haven't got BB so do everything on my mobile lol. It seems we are just limited to 3 atm?
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one of 3's All you can eat plans all the way due to free upgrade to 4G at no extra cost when launched in the Summer
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Hope thats true, where did you hear about the summer upgrade?
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My ee contract is £33.50 a month for 1000 mins 2000 texts and 4gb of data .
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24 Month Contract?
Upgrade?
Fee upfront for phone?
I spent over 9 years on 3 paying for their premium contract (and a data allowance I never came near to scratching.)
Eventually though their CS got to be beyond a joke. Their refusal to offer even a free phone to keep me on their One plan and total inability to hire anyone to man the call centers that could actually speak English drove me away.
I have since been blown away by the difference on Orange. My 3 contract is still in it's final days and that phone manages an astounding 225Kb/s compared to the 19.7Mb/s I get on Orange (both phones show H data connection although the Orange connection spends a lot of time trying to actually hang onto 3G instead.)
Read into this what you wish but it will take wild horses to drag me back to 3.
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Hey I just wanted to chime in here with a bit of info I came across via a friend. Staples do a weird membership plan thing that might interest some people. I've been looking in to it and it seems interesting but I'm not sure if it's really for me as the monthly cost seems to stand above average as far as I can see. They also don't have availability of the One yet but have told me that it should be coming to them soon.
Essentially you are not tied in to a contract and can swap your phone at any time, change you plan at any time or leave at any time and all you have to do is give 30 days notice. They claim that should you wish to leave you would only have to return the phone. No buyouts or extra costs unless you wanted to buy the phone from them which you could do should you wish to. Also you can essentially build your own package to suit your needs and choose any network except for 3 to have the selected package on. And should yo go over your allowance there are NO charges...Though on talking to him he said they gave you a 20% buffer to go over and if you kept going over they'd be in touch and saying to tweak your package a bit, but of course again this can be done at any time. Essentially it's a totally fixed price per month with no nasty surprises.
The guy also claimed that there were other membership benefits such as up to 6p off a litre of fuel every time you fill up and insurance discounts etc...But again I'm not sure how much these pro's outweigh the costs...And of course it's only up to 6p off so for the next 2 years it could only be 1p off per litre....You see what I'm saying anyway...
So obviously as he couldn't accurately quote on the One because he didn't have it yet I asked for some quotes on similar priced phones (I shant name them as this post is about the One, I just did what I needed to to get a picture of potential costs)
For a membership plan with
250 mins
500 mins
2GB Data
Approximately £60 a month
If you lose some data and go for 1GB it drops a bit to £50ish
I looked at 2 plans specifically for me which were
250 mins
250 texts
2gb data or 5gb data
and the quotes were £52 and £58
You also have to pay the first 3 months upfront, though should you wish to leave after a month you get 2 months back of course.
So you see they're much much more expensive then you're average contract but then again for that price you can get a new phone every single month should you wish....I dunno. I'm still haggling with him so I'll let you know how I get on. But it's work looking in to really, especially for people who use a lot of data at times as the odd month you use more and maybe go over you wont be hammered for it.
Anyway here's a link to the site should anyone want to check it out/enquire.....http://www.staples.co.uk/connect_home_subsite
You can buy a lot of coffee for £60 a month and you can rinse a lot of free wi-fi while you're at it.
Trust me, blagging free wi-fi is easier and cheaper than an expensive data plan.
compact_bijou said:
You can buy a lot of coffee for £60 a month and you can rinse a lot of free wi-fi while you're at it.
Trust me, blagging free wi-fi is easier and cheaper than an expensive data plan.
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This is true....The only real benefit I can see by going this route is being able to potentially have an iPhone one month then maybe try out the S4 then go back to the One, then try out the new Nexus 5 when it comes....etc etc...I mean it would be cool to have the flexibility but it's such a lot of money....I have emailed back this morning stating that if I was to keep the phone for the full 2 years I would end up paying approximately £600 more over the course of 2 years compared to the highest data contract available on the phone! Which is MENTAL considering the phone is available to buy sim free for less then £500 atm! And that's not taking in to account depreciation etc....So anyway I'll see what he comes back with and let everyone know....
Oh and I also asked if the monthly cost includes insurance or anything, which of course would make it almost seem a bit more worth the price, but it's still high....
I came from Vodafone to 3 as they don't offer unlimited data.
Its 12.90 a month (rolling contract) 200 mins, either 1000 or unlimited text (can't remember) and unlimited data. The difference was phenomenal compared to Vodafone.
I think it matters where you live really. I can drive round most of Bristol and beyond streaming Di radio to my stereo (aux) with hardly any buffering. I can also watch catchup TV almost anywhere.
I have no issues with calls either.
Why not try it, if you don't get on after a month just cancel it.
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Need some advice on Plans

My father passed away a month ago.I found out since he is the primary on the account for At&t I could cancel the account without any ETF fees. I would like to get something simple and cheap for my mom and sister now. Ideally I would like the following:
1. Two Smart Phones with at least 2GB of Data a month unlimited text and either unlimited minutes or at least mobile to mobile on any network. ( I don't use minutes really but my sister she can burn them)
2. One Flip phone for my mom with no data text etc, just minutes to call.
3. I would like fast HSPA+ speed or LTE just as long as its not regular 3G and below.
I would like to spend say no more then $150 a month. Is their any plan or carrier out their that has something like this in the Bay Area?
T mobile or simple mobile
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Is simple mobile on T mobiles network?
T-mobile would be $110 a month plus any equipment installment payments (depending in Handsets used). Thus would also give your mom texting and 500 MB of data in case she decides to try it (my mom likes having email and other info on the go that she didn't have with a flip phone).
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Wait. How do you get $110? If I goto T mobile site and add 2 S4 and a flip phone I got like $160 a month with the 2GB plan.
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My father passed away a month ago.I found out since he is the primary on the account for At&t I could cancel the account without any ETF fees. I would like to get something simple and cheap for my mom and sister now. Ideally I would like the following:
1. Two Smart Phones with at least 2GB of Data a month unlimited text and either unlimited minutes or at least mobile to mobile on any network. ( I don't use minutes really but my sister she can burn them)
2. One Flip phone for my mom with no data text etc, just minutes to call.
3. I would like fast HSPA+ speed or LTE just as long as its not regular 3G and below.
I would like to spend say no more then $150 a month. Is their any plan or carrier out their that has something like this in the Bay Area?
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Try T-Mobile Simple Choice. $50 for the first phone, $30 for the second and $10 for each phone after that. Unlimited Voice, Text and Data. The first 500MB for each line is high-speed. After that it is 3G. Bring your own phones.
falcon26 said:
My father passed away a month ago.I found out since he is the primary on the account for At&t I could cancel the account without any ETF fees. I would like to get something simple and cheap for my mom and sister now. Ideally I would like the following:
1. Two Smart Phones with at least 2GB of Data a month unlimited text and either unlimited minutes or at least mobile to mobile on any network. ( I don't use minutes really but my sister she can burn them)
2. One Flip phone for my mom with no data text etc, just minutes to call.
3. I would like fast HSPA+ speed or LTE just as long as its not regular 3G and below.
I would like to spend say no more then $150 a month. Is their any plan or carrier out their that has something like this in the Bay Area?
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+1 T-Mobile Simple Choice
Add 2 GB data at $10 per line for both smart phones, and the total monthly charge is $110 plus taxes and fees.
If I add 2 phones on the simple plan I get $120. Where are you guys getting $110?
Are you taking the amount for the phones each month into account?
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falcon26 said:
Wait. How do you get $110? If I goto T mobile site and add 2 S4 and a flip phone I got like $160 a month with the 2GB plan.
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T mobile is 50 for the first line than 30 for each additional. You get 500mb of data free for 2gb its extra 10 and unlimited 20 (I have used 20+gb no slowing me down) if you get a phone through t mo its a down payment plus taxes and an additional 10-20 depending on the phone. T mobile imho is very reasonable if you get good service
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