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A warning to all those buying a Nexus S (Screen and battery problems)

I thought I'd share some hopefully helpful information with you guys after having to have 2 swap outs of my Nexus S after getting it on launch day.
I had done an awful lot of reading prior to getting my Nexus to make sure I was pretty clued up about any potential launch bugs which seem to plague a number of handsets these days.
The first thing I noticed with my first phone was the unusually fast battery drain and long charge times, I could hardly go through daylight hours without my phone needing charge (Battery indicator showing orange or red). The following night I left the phone with 55% charge and went to sleep. When I woke up the phone was off, strange I thought; turns out it had eaten the rest of the battery over night.
The final straw came when I reset the phone to default settings (thinking it was a rogue app causing the drain) and it still ate the battery within a day. At this point I knew something was up, especially as reviewers were commenting that the battery seemed considerably better than a lot of other Android handsets.
I decided to take it back to Best Buy to get a swap out, long story short the sales rep. tested the battery and told me that it was defective. He then said he would swap out just the handset and battery with another unit, great I thought!
My relief was soon disturbed when I realised something wasn't right with the screen on my new handset. Not only was the screen a pee yellow colour (compared with the cool temperature of the original) there was also significant banding within the grey area of the the pull down notification tray. These problems had also been mentioned on the Engadget review and even if they hadn't I'm pretty sure I still would have noticed it straight away regardless.
After another trip back to Best Buy and a reluctant second swap out on their part, I have what seems like a fully working handset with a good battery and decent AMOLED panel.
I don't know what's happening with Samsung's QC or whether they have large tolerances for their panels, but I would have thought that they would have been able to iron a lot of this out having already launched the Galaxy S series.
A slightly long post but I hope this at least saves some of you the hassle I've been through to get a decent handset. This isn't the first time it's happened either, I had problems with my launch day iPhone 4 with the mic not working.
One thing's for sure, I'm going to be far more vigilant when buying my next handset.

also test ur buttons because they can be loose and the back button sometimes has problems

nothing new for samsung QA

Unfortunately, having come from the epic, this seems par for the course for sammy..I'd high hopes Google would counter this, but I guess not. My first and only ns is wonderful, though I ordered online and it seems the majority of complaints are coming from those that ordered at the store..coincidence?
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I had to return an iPhone 4 a few months ago because the screen was literally fused on crooked to the display. They all have their negatives and bad batches.
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brianbrain said:
Unfortunately, having come from the epic, this seems par for the course for sammy..I'd high hopes Google would counter this, but I guess not. My first and only ns is wonderful, though I ordered online and it seems the majority of complaints are coming from those that ordered at the store..coincidence?
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Sadly, Google != Apple, they don't produce their own hardware. Depending on Samsung, with their known ****ty QA is a risk I'm sure they weighed.

I ordered my NS online and have none off theses issues! Actually my battery life is AWESOME. 16 hours straight between charging. I love it!
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robstunner said:
I had to return an iPhone 4 a few months ago because the screen was literally fused on crooked to the display. They all have their negatives and bad batches.
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HHmm, If a few are defective, then they ALL must be. Quick, we must warn the others!

I'm not following you? I was implying that all phones have bad batches. No need to get butt hurt if that offended you?
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3G supported band
Guys,
Some thing out of the topic, but i need to ask is that is there any sort of 3G band limitation in US version of NS? My friend in Canada told me that currently all devices are coming only with AWS support for 3G which is supported by limited number of Cellular Operators.
Any ideas?

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Guys,
Some thing out of the topic, but i need to ask is that is there any sort of 3G band limitation in US version of NS? My friend in Canada told me that currently all devices are coming only with AWS support for 3G which is supported by limited number of Cellular Operators.
Any ideas?
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Correct, it wont work on AT&T/Bell/Telus 3G (someone correct me if im wrong about the Canadian carriers)

Having the same battery problem, please help
I am also having the same battery problem. It seems like the battery drains 1% per minute. I need to keep it charging all the time or it will drain in about 90 minutes. And it takes 8-9 hours to charge it to 100%.
Problem is I can't just take it back to Best Buy since I live overseas and a friend brought it to me from the US. So now what do I do?
1. Is it the battery or the phone? If it is the battery then I can just replace the battery, but I can't find anywhere online to buy the same battery? Any ideas?
2. If it is the phone, is there anything I can do w/o having to send it back to the USA?
Thanks so much for your help!

SmartphonesTV said:
I am also having the same battery problem. It seems like the battery drains 1% per minute. I need to keep it charging all the time or it will drain in about 90 minutes. And it takes 8-9 hours to charge it to 100%.
Problem is I can't just take it back to Best Buy since I live overseas and a friend brought it to me from the US. So now what do I do?
1. Is it the battery or the phone? If it is the battery then I can just replace the battery, but I can't find anywhere online to buy the same battery? Any ideas?
2. If it is the phone, is there anything I can do w/o having to send it back to the USA?
Thanks so much for your help!
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http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Standard-Battery-Moment-M900/dp/B0026LQL40/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top this battery works if you need to buy a new one

Calm down OP. You are just unlucky I suppose. Not only Samsung, I had to switch my ex droid2 three times. First, the microphone doesn't work. Second one, the power button then the third time physical keyboard was not responsive. Just my .02
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Its called mass production people each headset will have a defect!!! Live with it or dont buy simple

Yep battery life on my phone seems crap compared to my iPhone 4 but its a good phone never the less.
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As of now, the nexus s i definitely eating up more battery than my n1. but i usually give it a week before i can say fore sure. are there extended batteries out for the NS?

Thanks but this seller won't ship outside the USA. I found a bunch of similar ones on eBay, but they are all 1440 milliamps and not 1500 milliamps.
Not sure if the one on Amazon is 1440 or 1500.

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Thanks but this seller won't ship outside the USA. I found a bunch of similar ones on eBay, but they are all 1440 milliamps and not 1500 milliamps.
Not sure if the one on Amazon is 1440 or 1500.
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if you check the accessories thread someone says its a 1500

Darrien13 said:
also test ur buttons because they can be loose and the back button sometimes has problems
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Thx for that - thought I was going mad! Vol+ and Back seem dodgy - don't work every time. I'll be taking it back to the shop on Tuesday...

Killed my S2..

I have managed to kill my S2 by playing far too much Hot Springs Story (great game!)
While playing (we're talking a good couple/few hours), I noticed that even though when the phone is connected to the supplied charger, the handset requires more current than this is able to provide, and still discharges the battery (albeit, much slower).
I got a couple of 'battery temperature too high or too low, charging has been paused' while playing, as the phone was sat on my desk, I thought nothing of it.
The next morning I saw the handset had the same battery warning on screen, and was almost completely discharged (although the handset was still on). I knew something was not right then.. The phone was very hot in the casing to the right of the battery (when looking at it from the back). I guess this is where the charging circuit is, but I really dont know.
I couldnt get the battery to charge any more than a few seconds, either when the phone was booted into Android or in its off state. I managed to reload stock KE7 (which was already installed) just to see if it made a difference, it didn't :-/
The phone then refused to co-operate with the battery at all, and simply displayed a yellow exclamation mark next to the empty battery graphic on screen.
I bought a new spare battery of ebay, hoping that the intense discharge/recharge cycle had just wrecked the original battery, but unfortunately the replacement only charged for ~5-10minutes before showing the same yellow exclamation mark :-/ I guess its the charging circuity thats failed.
The handset was from O2 on PAYG, I debranded it by putting stock KE7 on it, and a few counts on the custom kernel flash counter, I'm hoping I can warranty it without too much hassle, but I am a bit anxious that technically O2/Samsung dont have to honour the warranty.. I'll let people know how it goes..
Missing my handset!

hmm, that sucks. so it does really overheat when charging... wow, that sucks a lot! normally when the battery is full, it stops charging and the temperature returns to normal, even though it is connected to the charger.
i guess the same could potentially happen while on a trip and charging/consuming battery using satnav, or listening to music.
not good.

Nothing you did (except rooting) is extraordinary use. They promote its use for games and that's what you were doing. I'm guessing Samsung Tech will probably just replace the phone rather than try and repair it. Good luck.

i got my phone about 1 week ago and only charged it about 6 - 7 times since i got.
Well on my second charge the battery was on zero phone turned off so i connect it to the wall charger and i got the yellow exclamation mark!!!! took the battery off put it back on and it started charging.
And just than on my 7-8th charge my phone was out of battery off so i decided to charge it off my laptop and i connect it to see i get the yellow exclamation mark again while phone is off. But this time i took the battery off put it back in wouldn't work. So i kept trying it after about 5 mins of connecting disconnecting the cable i managed to get it to start charging. (this time at work so had no power point charger)
EDIT: Australian Optus branded phone with no firmware change (still stock, no root, nothing).

Sorry to hear this mate. I also noticed the battery going down faster than it was charging, while playing Retro defense. And the device was getting really hot. If this can damage the phone then I'll stop playing that much with it.
Maybe you have a faulty one?

Here is my finding regarding heat
While running some tests for the robo defense dev to provide a log file so that he can get the freezing issue addressed, i did notice that my phone was getting extremely hot.
I've played plants vs zombie, grave defense hd, etc on charger and i've never gotten close to the heat felt through the phone today once robo defense frozed and i didn't close the app for a good while to create a log dump using adb
Could it be possible that some of these rogue apps are driving the device to 100% usage causing it to heat up?

how hot is extremely hot? The hottest I caught mine at was 48°c. That was while playing a game and charging at the same time

Flowlance said:
how hot is extremely hot? The hottest I caught mine at was 48°c. That was while playing a game and charging at the same time
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i didn't smell anything funny but it didn't feel safe letting it run endlessly

ph00ny said:
Could it be possible that some of these rogue apps are driving the device to 100% usage causing it to heat up?
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I think that is EXACTLY what's going on... I truly believe some of these games are either not written or optimized for this phone's dual core processor. I can play most games with no problems, including some of the bigger Gameloft games. But, there are a select few games that get the device way too hot for my liking... like Sky Force Reloaded. I have never played it completely through because I can feel just how hot the phone gets even through the case.
I think these issues will be ironed out in time, but definitely app dependent right now.
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Get the usb jig from ebay to reset counter for 5$ then reflash payg o2 (also in the debranding topic)) and then send it back
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cmd512 said:
I think these issues will be ironed out in time, but definitely app dependent right now.
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Definitely true for me. I can play many games for an extended period of time. Plants Vs Zombies, Death Worm, even something graphics intensive like Modern Combat 2 is no problem. But, if I play 10 minutes of Bonzai Blast it's radiating heat and the battery has lost 10%.

Sorry to read this mate.
On a side note, they say 2.3.4 will utilise Galaxy 2's hardware better, it will be more battery efficient and not overheating as much... So until then it may be a good idea not to "abuse" it too much (I know it sound crazy, but hell...)

Quick update:
I've returned the phone to the O2 store today for repair.
This was in its debranded state with the stock KE7 firmware installed, and I think 5 custom kernel install counts.
I think I could have got it back to stock by borrowing a friends charged battery, reinstalling stock rom, and then usb jigging it back to 0 custom kernel installs, but I thought I might as well 'take one for the team' and use this experience to test how flexible Samsung's repair shop is when dealing with handsets like this (HTC repaired my unlocked Nexus one without any fuss)
I've been *very* impressed with Samsung's dev friendly attitude so far, they're not only setting the standards in Android hardware used, but also with how their company recognises the wants of its consumers. I'm sure I won't be disappointed..
Should know in about 7 days!

bakachu said:
Quick update:
I've returned the phone to the O2 store today for repair.
test how flexible Samsung's repair shop is when dealing with handsets like this (HTC repaired my unlocked Nexus one without any fuss)
Let us know if O2 repair or Samsung .
Its often down to the tech that picks the phone up some may just flash the stock rom and not bother others as been posted might be more picky .
As per the O2 store that refused warranty on my SGS1 .
Unlocking will not void any warranty as O2 offer the service themselves as do all networks .
jje
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Quick update, still under repair.
It came back once with a letter saying that they (o2) replaced the circuit board, but it was still broken.
It then got sent off again, and I've been told today that its come back from repair with a letter that only says 'BER', which means Beyond Economic Repair apparently.. so they're (the o2 shop) are sending it back for a repair team leader to look at now :-/
Bit fed up :-/

bakachu said:
Quick update, still under repair.
It came back once with a letter saying that they (o2) replaced the circuit board, but it was still broken.
It then got sent off again, and I've been told today that its come back from repair with a letter that only says 'BER', which means Beyond Economic Repair apparently.. so they're (the o2 shop) are sending it back for a repair team leader to look at now :-/
Bit fed up :-/
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BER is actually good news. You'll probably get a new phone. I doubt at this point the team leader's going to say anything about your mods. He'll probably just rubber stamp it.

I always thought people shouldn't use their phones while charging at the same time
Anyway, hope they'll give you a new one. I always cringe every time I feel the back of the phone warming up...

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I always thought people shouldn't use their phones while charging at the same time
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Not possible for developers When developing an app, the handset will be 'always on', charging, and being used for 8hrs+ all at the same time!
Addictive Japanese quasi-RPG games are a separate matter though..

Pocket legends is a killer. On it for five min n phone got really really hot. Checked temp n it was 44 degrees... Not good
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i'm getting worried after reading here. last time i used with google navigation and charging same time, battery heat went over 50°c and it was really hot..
and that was just for one hour google navigation.

Nexus 7 Overheating and bugging

This night, I was playing Beach Buggy Blitz and suddently, I began to have graphics glitches. The screen turned kind of violet tinted and was teared apart at the bottom but the game was still playing fine without crashing. So I quit the game and the same problems were present in the Android home screens. Even a complete shutdown and reboot did not had any effect. I thought that my N7 was broken for good.
But, then the screen began flickering between the good and the bad states and finally settled with the normal colors. The N7 never froze while the display was corrupted.
When this occured, I was playing with my N7 inside a leather folio case and I could sense the heat through the case. I then changed the case for a hard shell one with a plastic back and the issue returned after playing a little longer than with the leather case. I finally tried without any case and the problem did not appear although I played for a little less longer.
I had the graphics settings in BBB maxed out and this being a Tegra 3 optimized game, I wonder if this isn't the worst case scenario for the N7 when inside a closed case with a game that sollicit heavily the graphics portion of the ARM chip.
Anyone had similar overheating issues? Should I (again) think about RMAing my tablet or is this just an issue that could affect all Nexus 7 when they are put in the same conditions?

You pretty much answered and solved your own problem.
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how long were you playing for man? my goodness, if you play for that long to overheat your device i think it's time you get a PSvita or PS3 lol... I know the tablet has a tegra 3 chip but still, I don't think it's totally meant for a 5 hr game session

MRsf27 said:
how long were you playing for man? my goodness, if you play for that long to overheat your device i think it's time you get a PSvita or PS3 lol... I know the tablet has a tegra 3 chip but still, I don't think it's totally meant for a 5 hr game session
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It's fine.. just the enclosed case was the issue.
My advice is to only use a case when doing light duties, or your battery will suffer for it.
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Mungulz said:
It's fine.. just the enclosed case was the issue.
My advice is to only use a case when doing light duties, or your battery will suffer for it.
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yeah, but still; how can you possibly play for that long on the nexus 7? I can't even see myself holding it for more then 1 hr playing games lol

MRsf27 said:
yeah, but still; how can you possibly play for that long on the nexus 7? I can't even see myself holding it for more then 1 hr playing games lol
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He would have only had to play for maybe 20-30 minutes to cook the nexus.
I just played for 15 minutes and it made my nexus the hottest I've ever seen...
You need to understand though, unless the device is insulated there is no difference in heat between 30 minutes gaming and 30 hours gaming. Phones/tablets/computers get up to temperature quickly.
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Mungulz said:
He would have only had to play for maybe 20-30 minutes to cook the nexus.
I just played for 15 minutes and it made my nexus the hottest I've ever seen...
You need to understand though, unless the device is insulated there is no difference in heat between 30 minutes gaming and 30 hours gaming. Phones/tablets/computers get up to temperature quickly.
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If he has his device rooted and ovrclocked that could be he reason why its overheating.. when I play with my device it doesn't get very hot
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I played for about 25 minutes when it first happened. The second time, with the hard back case, I played for 10 minutes. My Nexus 7 is rooted but not overclocked, original ROM and kernel. I reverted to a good backup and the problem was still there.
Since it happened, my N7 seems to be more problematic than before. For example, after being charged in the hard back case, I experienced the problem only 2 minutes after I started playing with it. It's as if something has been damaged by the first overheating and now it overheats pretty easily even with less demanding games.
If I can't use a case with my N7 then I must consider it defective. So, I emailed Google for a replacement this morning. Just as I started to enjoy my tablet after a first replacement (screen lift), this happens...

MRsf27 said:
If he has his device rooted and ovrclocked that could be he reason why its overheating.. when I play with my device it doesn't get very hot
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External temperatures can affect overall device temps as well (as in, if your sitting in a meat freezer, your Nexus 7 is very unlikely to overheat, whereas if your sitting outside in 100F weather...)

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External temperatures can affect overall device temps as well (as in, if your sitting in a meat freezer, your Nexus 7 is very unlikely to overheat, whereas if your sitting outside in 100F weather...)
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Yep.
Although OPs nexus seems to be defective if its overheating now in 2 minutes.
Since reaidng this thread a few days ago I decided to try Beach Buggy Blitz and now im hooked on it, my Nexus can handle hours of gameplay in 25c ambient.. wouldn't wana try on a really hot day because it feels really warm already.
I seem to notice more framerate slowdown as the N7 gets hotter, maybe thermal throttling.
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I'm not a gamer by any stretch of the imagination. However, I experienced random reboots while I was writing a long email using Swype with my Nexus 7 in the Poetic case. When I looked, the temperature was VERY high as reported by System Tuner. I removed the case, cooled the back of the Nexus, and everything went back to normal. I WAS overclocked, so I went back to a kernel locked to stock speeds. I haven't seen any serious issues since. But it's pretty clear that if you're using a case, the Nexus can't shed heat quickly enough the way it was designed to.
I keep a closer eye on it now.

What models/build, gig and first 3-4 characters of your serial number, do you have?
I had a 16 gig (not sure) that was stayed cool. I exchanged it for a 32 gig (CAOK) and that would gets hot at random times of just usual use. It would get hot on the bottom left quarter of the back. The screen would take a huge percentage of the battery also.
I picked up another 32 gig (C9OK) and this one stays cool under normal usage.
Maybe we can isolate this to a certain model/build.

It was a C7O. I don't remember more than that, sorry. I've posted a video of the problem on Youtube and send that link to Google when asking for an RMA on their site. 90 minutes later, I had a response with all the needed info to return the tablet. On this one, I have to give Google a very positive note:good:.
I received another C7O and this one seems to be defect free. After 3 N7s, I finally started to enjoy my tablet...

same issue
same issue here.
i was playing Final Fantasy (so awesome that SquareENix ported this to Android and iOS... i remember the original version from my NES and it was a hoot. the only FF game i ever played) for about 2 hours or so and toward the end my Nexus 7 tablet got very hot, particularly on the "lower" portion of the device (side with the USB charging/tether port) ... of course, this is held in landscape mode for this game so it was my right hand that was hot.
anyway, just before starting one last awesome boss battle (right up at the Kraken with awesomely-decked out party, damn!) the game hung and the whole tablet froze. no home button functionality, no power button to even turn the screen off or on again.
had to hold power for 10 seconds, full reboot. even when the tablet came back up it was still wonky.
powered off, left it off for a while. it came back up just fine afterward, but the game didn't get to save so i'm back many levels before where i had been. no looking forward to that re-work. ah well, live and learn.

Life expectancy?

How long can one expect a device such as the note 3 to last. Let's say the device in question never is dropped or mishandled. Now with heavy use on a daily basis would you expect all internals and externals to perform flawless for 5+ years. What would the max be. Looking for answers from people who know not guessing please. I'm just curious as many probably are as well. Thank you for all the views and responses.
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I am not sure. I am on my second note 3 now since they seen to have an use with the sandisk ultra micro sd card. The phone cooked itself while charging. I can't speak to the actual internals, qa process in the factory and expected life expectancy resulting from those either being robust our weak.

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How long can one expect a device such as the note 3 to last. Let's say the device in question never is dropped or mishandled. Now with heavy use on a daily basis would you expect all internals and externals to perform flawless for 5+ years. What would the max be. Looking for answers from people who know not guessing please. I'm just curious as many probably are as well. Thank you for all the views and responses.
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I would not expect this device to last 5 years. I've used this device heavily - every day - for almost a year now. So far the plastic chrome overlay around the outside has cracked near the volume button - and it was not dropped and it was in a case yet the plastic chrome cracked. I used superglue to patch that crack. Apparently, the silver plastic chrome cracking is not abnormal - especially near the S-Pen (though I never use mine so it didn't happen for me there). I've sat on my phone in bed once (I usually carry it in my back jeans pocket) and it showed no signs of problems - I'm a 5'11 220 pound male so I'm not small. The screen is holding up VERY well - no obvious scratches even though now I go case free (and have for months now).
Of all the phones I use (HTC MyTouch, Motorola Droid 1, HTC Thunderbolt, iPhone 4s, iPhone 5, Note 3) - I give the Note 3 very high ratings for durability. It is extremely light - and the big screen allows me to do what I want without hinderance.
Will it last 5 years? I doubt it mostly because of software reasons (most Android phones stop getting updates around 5 years out). Will it last 2 years? I'm betting on it - not planning to upgrade till 2016. Happily running Alliance Rom Build 1 - impatiently waiting for Build 2.
I'm running an Anker (stock sized) battery from Amazon - and for the price - will get a new one next year to keep the thing "fresh"

Thanks for the responses so far. Very good posts. I have had mine half a year it's still in mint condition. I use a neo hybrid case with no screen protector use to use one but I take care of my devices. If I was a dropper I'd have a glass screen protector and otter case lol. I was running alliance now trying jasmine 2.4 waiting super impatiently for a port of the note 4. Yes my last device Droid 4 lasted 3 or 4 years then it went haywire. Hoping my phone lasts awhile interested to see what the note line has to offer for the next few years to come.
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How long can one expect a device such as the note 3 to last. Let's say the device in question never is dropped or mishandled. Now with heavy use on a daily basis would you expect all internals and externals to perform flawless for 5+ years. What would the max be. Looking for answers from people who know not guessing please. I'm just curious as many probably are as well. Thank you for all the views and responses.
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No one "knows" relative to the Note3, it's only been out a year!
However....it is just another electronic product. It appears well built, depending on how often it's charged....over 5 years you may need one or two new batteries but they're user-replaceable.
AMOLED displays should last 8 to 10 years and flash memory should last for about 200,000 write operations.
In other words....it should easily last 8 to 10 years....the "life" of its least reliable, non-user replaceable component.
That presumes the cellular service providers still support the current protocols.
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Mine's less than a year old and it just died. Picked up to use it and it's dead. Can't wake it up and it only sits there and gets hot while charging. I baby all of my stuff-this sucks. Only communication I have.
Rich

dorpmuller said:
Mine's less than a year old and it just died. Picked up to use it and it's dead. Can't wake it up and it only sits there and gets hot while charging. I baby all of my stuff-this sucks. Only communication I have.
Rich
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I'd say you have a dead (shorted) battery. Pull the battery and plug into charger....will it start now? If nothing else...unless you got it the day it came out, it should still be under warranty.
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Wasn't the battery. Got it replaced by Verizon. Something seriously went wrong with the device. All good now!
Rich
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dorpmuller said:
Mine's less than a year old and it just died. Picked up to use it and it's dead. Can't wake it up and it only sits there and gets hot while charging. I baby all of my stuff-this sucks. Only communication I have.
Rich
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Read through at your own risk.
Pmfji, but I have had a similar experience. Set up my Note 3 to charge one night, went to sleep, woke up and I could fry a virtual egg on it. The temp was some ridiculous number I can't recall. Totally freaked, thought the thing might explode. Mind went into overload, gotta figure this out, before it burns out!
Kept repeating the mantra, "this is just a computer", over and over. In a former life I used to be a 'Wintel' power user or so I used to think.
Racing through all the possible scenarios, what could be the issue? I checked my tools, not only was the temp outrageous, but the CPU frequency was through the roof as well! Noting the super high temp over a long period—a few HOURS; finally, I thought to pull the battery.
For those who know, not an easy effort given a Zerolemon case (think Outterbox) and humongous, heavy battery amidst visions of seared flesh! ?
Battery out, I could think more clearly. Letting the thing sit and cool for a half hour or so. I sat hoping, whatever the issue, the battery pull killed it. While I struggled to put my foggy brain into overdrive. Not the way to start the day, before breakfast and before my first cup of coffee! Imagine, wake up, grab the phone, cut the alarm, then ? wtf!
Thinking on it, I figured it had to be a problem with some very recent software installed on my—Rooted, Xposed, and otherwise stock Note 3. Could it be one of the Xposed modules??
I had, a couple of days before, after a short stint with 3c's "Battery Manager", swaped it for 3c's "Toolbox Pro" (which among MANY, MANY, MANY tools includes the Battery Manager Pro).
Daunting, comprehensive apps both, of which my primary focus was, at the time, facilitating the Battery Manager so it would provide relatively useful and accurate readings of the Zerolemon's 10,000 mAh battery level at any given time. An effort which was driving this tinkerer absolutely batty! ???
So, after several courses of, pull the battery, think a little, place the battery, watch, feel the temps rise, and pull the battery, the damned thing just would not stop! Finally, I used Toolbox Pro's "CPU Manager" and "Task Manager" to determine which app was monopolizing the CPU percentage use/time; and, concurrently causing the insane CPU frequency, and ultimately frying my phone. Needless to say, the device was not only super hot, but irritatingly sluggish which made this a tediously slow process.
Anyway, culprit found,Titanium Backup and that app was history. Actually, that may have been my first use of Toolbox Pro's "App Manager". One or the other….
Which app was it? Unfortunately, I do not recall, maybe a record is in the logs. How high did the temps go? Again, can't recall, I can vouch it was higher than any temp I had experienced on a Note or any computing device. How's my Note 3? Well it was, well—fine! Showed no consequences, nothing.
That is til I screwed the sound/volume (Wanam and another Xposed module poorly coincide when both utilize the volume button to trigger different functions), but that's another story.
For the record, I am on my FOURTH Note 3!! My present and last Note 3 is suffering the same sound/volume issue, a tinkerer's fortune. Though my first ROM flash should correct that issue.
Hmmm, now how do I flash?? Odin (isn't that a Norse g_d?), TWERP (isn't that some sort of butt humping??), SafeStrap (isn't that a sexual device hung from a ceiling beam??), duhhhh another confused newb….
Thanks to anyone bothering to read through the above.

You said it yourself you left it on the charger all night and woke up and it was hot. You can't leave a phone on a charger all night sleep for 8 plus hours that would fry it and it would be hot overcharging is really bad.
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matsuyamakaze said:
You said it yourself you left it on the charger all night and woke up and it was hot. You can't leave a phone on a charger all night sleep for 8 plus hours that would fry it and it would be hot overcharging is really bad.
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I leave my phone plugged up overnight, every night. I have had a replacement phone because the proximity sensor failed, but I've had this one for ~6 months and it's never overheated or done anything like above. Battery life is still great.

+1. Never had a problem with any device charging overnight, be it phone, tablet or laptop.

I leave my Note 3 plugged up All Night, EVERY Night. Anywhere from 5-12hrs depending on the day of the week & how many beers I drank the night before. I've NEVER had anything close to that happening. I do have a Great Battery app, Battery Doctor but I don't think it would stop that from happening if it happens so easily/frequently by charging them to long.as you suggest. There was definitely something funky going on with this guys Note 3. My Note 3 got REALLY Hot one time, while I was at work & it was Off the charge. I actually got a System Temperature Notification that it was over heating. I clicked on my Battery app & it had already found the culprit. I had turned Off Google+ Auto Backup Pic/Vids feature about 2 months prior to this. That morning when I got to work I turned it back on. Google+ started backing everything up at one time, >10gb. & started to Heat it up. The app now will Not backup everything at once unless you click the backup at once option. That was fixed in one of its updates.

What i have noticed so far with the G4

I`ve had the phone for 3 days now and before upgradin from the Iphone 6 ( my first and last iphone) i was really anxious about the many issues listed in the forums especially the touchscreen problem. When i initially got it i started testing everything and I`m glad to say that everything worked fine (sooo relieved) but when i charged it for the first time it charged very slowly, about 3 hours for a full charge, and it got really hot when using lightly the 3rd day a did a factory reset and immediately noticed the the battery charged way faster about 1% per minute ( i dont know how it compares to you other guys) and the phone didnt get nearly as hot. From all this i belive that LG did e very good job hardware wise but i think like many other conapnies fell a little short on the software department and hopefully it will be fixed in the updates to come.

samkle said:
the 3rd day a did a factory reset and immediately noticed the the battery charged way faster about 1% per minute ( i dont know how it compares to you other guys) and the phone didnt get nearly as hot.
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Factory reset is the first thing which I do with any new Android device I ever owned

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Factory reset is the first thing which I do with any new Android device I ever owned
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It seems to fix some issues for alot of user so i think its worth a try for anyone whos experiencing any ☺

Mine will start getting hot and eating battery once in a while, but a reboot always fixes that. 1% charge per minute is about what I see on the stock LG charger.

juliend said:
Mine will start getting hot and eating battery once in a while, but a reboot always fixes that. 1% charge per minute is about what I see on the stock LG charger.
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Glad to know its not only me. Have you used a QC with the phone? I ordered a Tronsmart 2.0 QC off ebay hopefully it will work faster without any issues.

I bought the Tronsmart QC 2.0 and its awesome. I go from 48% to close to 100% in the 45min car ride home. I do not notice any heat that is worrying. It does get warm when charging but normal.
My G4 was raging out of the box. Super hot. Brightness was being throttled back between 100, 90, and 80 pretty frequently and it went from 60% to dead in like 15minutes. After I wiped and setup as new, it has been running as one would expect.

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I bought the Tronsmart QC 2.0 and its awesome. I go from 48% to close to 100% in the 45min car ride home. I do not notice any heat that is worrying. It does get warm when charging but normal.
My G4 was raging out of the box. Super hot. Brightness was being throttled back between 100, 90, and 80 pretty frequently and it went from 60% to dead in like 15minutes. After I wiped and setup as new, it has been running as one would expect.
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Glad to hear that ☺. I actually purchased the wall charger but i guess the performance will be similiar. The one thing i noticed today was the battery life, it seems it is not that great during very light usage but that may be due to the fact that these couple of days the reception has been awful because the carrier im using (Vodafone) is switching to 4G for the first time in my country and ,a little out of topic i know, the download speeds have shocked me, my home connection max download speed is about 400-500kbps and today i witnessed 15-20mbps.

Battery does drain faster in low signal areas. I found that a slow charge at night yeilds longer charges throughout the day. I use fast charge in the car so I can use GPS and still get a charge. But at home and office I use Qi Wireless Charging. I use fast charging at home but only when I am doing heavy useage. I slow charge while I sleep.

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Battery does drain faster in low signal areas. I found that a slow charge at night yeilds longer charges throughout the day. I use fast charge in the car so I can use GPS and still get a charge. But at home and office I use Qi Wireless Charging. I use fast charging at home but only when I am doing heavy useage. I slow charge while I sleep.
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How much of a charge do you actually gain in the car with the fast charger while using nav and music with screen on?

Is any of you guys using a micro sd? Im using a Samusng 64Gb class 10 and im experiencing a lot of battery drain even when the phone is on idle and i was thinking if the card has anything to do with it.

I'm using SanDisk class 10 and there's no noticeable difference in my end

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Is any of you guys using a micro sd? Im using a Samusng 64Gb class 10 and im experiencing a lot of battery drain even when the phone is on idle and i was thinking if the card has anything to do with it.
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It could be the phone is performing media scanning which keeps the phone awake. This should be completed in a day or two.
If you still experience battery drain after couple of days. I'd suggest performing a full format of the micro SD card on a computer. Incase there are bad sectors on the SD card that the phone is stuck on try to read them.

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It could be the phone is performing media scanning which keeps the phone awake. This should be completed in a day or two.
If you still experience battery drain after couple of days. I'd suggest performing a full format of the micro SD card on a computer. Incase there are bad sectors on the SD card that the phone is stuck on try to read them.
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The funny thing is that the the two buying factors for me were the removable back and the micro SD slot, and the only issue I have may or may not be with the micro SD and a slightly loose hinge on the left side of the battery cover but I have experienced that with every phone I had including the g2 and the iPhone 6 without a removable back that had this issue.

Hey,
This is my first LG phone. I'm a bit disappointed, but the camera makes up for everything (mostly).
First of all, the device I'm using right now is the third one within a week. I got it from Vodafone, and the first two had the same issue. When the screen was on, and showing bright things, the front speaker would give out a high pitched whistle sound. You could only hear it initially if you held it to your ear. However in recorded videos it was clear and loud enough to be very very annoying. This third unit is ok it seems, but my advice to everyone is to try the G4 before leaving the shop. It might just be a bad batch that was made for Vodafone, a similar thing happened to me with my HTC One X, that had screen issues, and there too I had to go through several devices.
I did notice lag, Nova Launcher helps, but I'm really looking to root the thing and putting CM or some AOSP rom on it. My S5 seems way snappier with BlissPop on it. The only problem with that is I loose the camera app, the thing I bought it for in the first place.
The battery is ok, but I expect more. I haven't had heat issues. The GPS draines the battery though really bad. If you don't use a charger whilst navigating, you'll go flat within an hour,which is not stellar at all. If you use a normal 2.1A charger, you can keep it on level, or might even add a few %.
The camera is awesome, and the leather back too. Cool that at Vodafone you get the leather and a plastic back in the box.
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kozjegyzo said:
Hey,
This is my first LG phone. I'm a bit disappointed, but the camera makes up for everything (mostly).
First of all, the device I'm using right now is the third one within a week. I got it from Vodafone, and the first two had the same issue. When the screen was on, and showing bright things, the front speaker would give out a high pitched whistle sound. You could only hear it initially if you held it to your ear. However in recorded videos it was clear and loud enough to be very very annoying. This third unit is ok it seems, but my advice to everyone is to try the G4 before leaving the shop. It might just be a bad batch that was made for Vodafone, a similar thing happened to me with my HTC One X, that had screen issues, and there too I had to go through several devices.
I did notice lag, Nova Launcher helps, but I'm really looking to root the thing and putting CM or some AOSP rom on it. My S5 seems way snappier with BlissPop on it. The only problem with that is I loose the camera app, the thing I bought it for in the first place.
The battery is ok, but I expect more. I haven't had heat issues. The GPS draines the battery though really bad. If you don't use a charger whilst navigating, you'll go flat within an hour,which is not stellar at all. If you use a normal 2.1A charger, you can keep it on level, or might even add a few %.
The camera is awesome, and the leather back too. Cool that at Vodafone you get the leather and a plastic back in the box.
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Even my 1+1 is way snappier with blisspop installed. Snappier than s6, snappier than g4.
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kozjegyzo said:
Hey,
This is my first LG phone. I'm a bit disappointed, but the camera makes up for everything (mostly).
First of all, the device I'm using right now is the third one within a week. I got it from Vodafone, and the first two had the same issue. When the screen was on, and showing bright things, the front speaker would give out a high pitched whistle sound. You could only hear it initially if you held it to your ear. However in recorded videos it was clear and loud enough to be very very annoying. This third unit is ok it seems, but my advice to everyone is to try the G4 before leaving the shop. It might just be a bad batch that was made for Vodafone, a similar thing happened to me with my HTC One X, that had screen issues, and there too I had to go through several devices.
I did notice lag, Nova Launcher helps, but I'm really looking to root the thing and putting CM or some AOSP rom on it. My S5 seems way snappier with BlissPop on it. The only problem with that is I loose the camera app, the thing I bought it for in the first place.
The battery is ok, but I expect more. I haven't had heat issues. The GPS draines the battery though really bad. If you don't use a charger whilst navigating, you'll go flat within an hour,which is not stellar at all. If you use a normal 2.1A charger, you can keep it on level, or might even add a few %.
The camera is awesome, and the leather back too. Cool that at Vodafone you get the leather and a plastic back in the box.
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Thankfully I didn't have any hardware issues, I have the Hong Kong version because there's where most of retailers get the phones in my country, I think there's a lot room for improvement software wise and I'm hoping coming updates especially android M, will refine this device even more. I really hoped my I would get the plastic back cover in the box and I'm really jealous of those who did ??

Im starting to notice two more things with the G4, the battery cover (leather) is making a creacking noise when i press it on some areas, and the other one is the with the vibration motor that makes a little bit of noise compared to other phones ive had, has any of you guys experienced this?

samkle said:
Glad to know its not only me. Have you used a QC with the phone? I ordered a Tronsmart 2.0 QC off ebay hopefully it will work faster without any issues.
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I have charged it using my wifes samsung QC. Don't notice much difference over the stock LG charger.

I'm not going to resort to a factory data reset because I shouldn't have to
come to think of it maybe I will try a reset
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josephcory said:
I'm not going to resort to a factory data reset because I shouldn't have to
come to think of it maybe I will try a reset
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It's up to you, but as you have seen its much recommended if you have any issues.