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hi all!
some of you are happy to have DHD already.
Tell me please how does it work as music player? Is it better than older HTC phones? (or generally phones) Can it play music as good as mid level mp3 players like iPOD, Creative, Sony etc.?
I mean with headphones, not stock off course.
best regards, Wojtek
I recall clock saying the sound was great using earphones. not sure if its the stock tho
The DHD has a good ADSP unit and as such, you should experience a good multimedia experience. This is of course dependant on other addons (DSPManager works great, but that requires modifying the framework) as well as upon the quality of your hardware (earphones - wired ones like Sennheinser and Bose work great).
You SHOULD bear in mind, that this is primarily a phone, NOT a multimedia unit.
Pozdrawiam ;]
I am listening to music on my HD right now!
It sounds incredible, awesome quality from the phone when using some quality earbuds. Sounds just like my iPod Video.
There is also the option of enabling Dolby Mobile, or SRS, or other EQ presets.
What's really nice is that you can scan the network for UPnP servers with the built-in Music app (eg. Windows Media, TVersity, XBMC and many more - I use foobar2000) and access music libraries stored on computers or NAS drives etc. Very handy! I think it works for pictures and videos too. Looks like part of HTC's DLNA implementation.
FM radio also sounds alright too. Haven't moved into a location where I could get full FM strength yet, but indoors on my headphones it's nice enough.
Can you tell me what are the settings available in dolby and SRS ?
Thanks
thanks guys, that was really helpful!
I was worried, because most phones sounds very flat. Mostly I listen to rock music so powerful low and dynamic high frequencies is a must have.
Now I use Nokia E65 with 3,5mm adaptor and KOSS earbuds. I hope there will be an major upgrade between E65 and DHD in case of sound + might consider changing earphones to AKG's.
is music and media playback can be enhanced with the dolby (via speaker) ?
The music quality is a way better than the desire. I would say it is on par with the iphone.
Is there any ex Galaxy S owners here who could provide an 'HONEST' opinion please.
The SGS is known as having an excellent Music App and delivers excellent quality audio.
It will be great to hear the DHD can achieve a similar result.
Thanks.
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Can you tell me what are the settings available in dolby and SRS ?
Thanks
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In the Music app (at least; haven't looked at any video playback yet) there's a button at the top right and an item on the Menu button called Sound Enhancer.
On there, you have "No effects", "Dolby Mobile", "SRS enhancement", and "Equalizer (headphones only)". Next to Equalizer, there's a variety of presets like Pop, Rock, Bass boost, Treble boost, Vocal boost, and a few more. I haven't found any means of actually adjusting the Dolby or SRS - it just seems to be an on/off thing - same with the EQ, there's no manual band control that I can see. It's either Nothing, Dolby, SRS, or EQ+a preset.
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is music and media playback can be enhanced with the dolby (via speaker) ?
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Dolby mobile and SRS makes a difference to the music being played in both the headphones, and out of the phone's speaker. Dolby seems to push more bass and adds a mild surround-like feeling. SRS seems to boost the bass and treble and make the sound "stand out" more. Both nice effects, worth playing with on various kinds of headphone. It's a preferential thing - the sound is fantastic even with no effects. They seem to make the external speaker a little louder (perhaps as a result of extra treble?) which, I must admit, is tinny and a little quiet, but I was expecting that.
Demiourgos said:
thanks guys, that was really helpful!
I was worried, because most phones sounds very flat. Mostly I listen to rock music so powerful low and dynamic high frequencies is a must have.
Now I use Nokia E65 with 3,5mm adaptor and KOSS earbuds. I hope there will be an major upgrade between E65 and DHD in case of sound + might consider changing earphones to AKG's.
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I used to have some KOSS The Plugs, and I miss them like hell, great earphones especially at the price. I lost mine It's a pity I don't have them any more to test on the DHD, but I'm certain you will find them to sound fantastic on this phone.
I'm using some generic Sony-Ericsson Walkman headphones with some custom earplugs, and they sound brilliant on this phone, so I can only imagine better headphones would sound... well, let's use some Apple lingo - "magical".
The bass is certainly powerful and upper frequencies are crisp. Hopefully you'll find it the same... I appreciate listening experience is a very subjective thing.
Demiourgos said:
thanks guys, that was really helpful!
I was worried, because most phones sounds very flat. Mostly I listen to rock music so powerful low and dynamic high frequencies is a must have.
Now I use Nokia E65 with 3,5mm adaptor and KOSS earbuds. I hope there will be an major upgrade between E65 and DHD in case of sound + might consider changing earphones to AKG's.
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I listen to deathcore and metalcore stuffs, having a low and dynamic Hi-F would indeed be superb with the open triplets, massive double paddle bass and all the squeaking pinching.. goes sexy on the distortion sound too
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In the Music app (at least; haven't looked at any video playback yet) there's a button at the top right and an item on the Menu button called Sound Enhancer.
On there, you have "No effects", "Dolby Mobile", "SRS enhancement", and "Equalizer (headphones only)". Next to Equalizer, there's a variety of presets like Pop, Rock, Bass boost, Treble boost, Vocal boost, and a few more. I haven't found any means of actually adjusting the Dolby or SRS - it just seems to be an on/off thing - same with the EQ, there's no manual band control that I can see. It's either Nothing, Dolby, SRS, or EQ+a preset.
Dolby mobile and SRS makes a difference to the music being played in both the headphones, and out of the phone's speaker. Dolby seems to push more bass and adds a mild surround-like feeling. SRS seems to boost the bass and treble and make the sound "stand out" more. Both nice effects, worth playing with on various kinds of headphone. It's a preferential thing - the sound is fantastic even with no effects. They seem to make the external speaker a little louder (perhaps as a result of extra treble?) which, I must admit, is tinny and a little quiet, but I was expecting that.
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sweet, i love to hear that SRS and DOLBY makes media playback via the internal speaker a lil bit louder.. cuz it has been metallic and empty for the HTC Desire. Yes we all know that people dont enjoy music via the speakers but it would be handy sometime to have at least a decent one.. just for shortplaybacks or watching video with buddies..
does it work for youtube perhaps? cuz i see people tend to watch youtube vids with friends.. that is where a decent speaker goes along well or does it work only with the music player
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I listen to deathcore and metalcore stuffs, having a low and dynamic Hi-F would indeed be superb with the open triplets, massive double paddle bass and all the squeaking pinching.. goes sexy on the distortion sound too
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I have no deathcore to hand at the moment, but can give it a shot when I get home and report back, ahhaha
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does it work for youtube perhaps? cuz i see people tend to watch youtube vids with friends.. that is where a decent speaker goes along well or does it work only with the music player
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Since the sound enhancement settings are only accessible from within the Music application, I don't know whether these enhancements only affect the music played in this app, or if the settings "stick" and apply to all media. I have no data or Wifi available at the moment to test out YouTube, but will report back tonight unless someone else would like to try.
I wonder if the Dolby/SRS/EQ stuff is done in software, or in the DAC/audio chip. Would be nice if it was the latter, as in the future we may end up with an external app that may offer more control over it, like some older HTC phones used to have.
Thought id post some screen shots of the music player and settings and what have you.
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I have no deathcore to hand at the moment, but can give it a shot when I get home and report back, ahhaha
Since the sound enhancement settings are only accessible from within the Music application, I don't know whether these enhancements only affect the music played in this app, or if the settings "stick" and apply to all media. I have no data or Wifi available at the moment to test out YouTube, but will report back tonight unless someone else would like to try.
I wonder if the Dolby/SRS/EQ stuff is done in software, or in the DAC/audio chip. Would be nice if it was the latter, as in the future we may end up with an external app that may offer more control over it, like some older HTC phones used to have.
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try Bring Me The Horizon : Visions and Asking Alexandria : The Final Episode.. tell me if it sounds awesome! Both songs have quite a dynamic range of tunes and even very low ones too
Beards said:
Is there any ex Galaxy S owners here who could provide an 'HONEST' opinion please.
The SGS is known as having an excellent Music App and delivers excellent quality audio.
It will be great to hear the DHD can achieve a similar result.
Thanks.
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Yes I can help, my friend is here with her HD and I had a galaxy s not long back..(sold this week)
Galaxy s vs Desire HD - music through loud speaker - Galaxy S kicks its butt.
Galaxy S vs Desire HD - music through standard supplied earphones - Galaxy S again sound better.
Galaxy S vs Desire HD - music with a set of sennheiser cx500 in the DHD (ebay £10, best earphones for the price, trust me) WOW, what a difference, lovely sound and good bass, on par with Galaxy S id say..
Basically the external speaker isn't that loud (its not bad but its just not loud enough...as always...thanks HTC)
The supplied headphons that come with the Desire HD are crap..
Get a good set of earphones (the sennheiser cx500 were just an example but I found them to be very good for the money)...the difference is like night and day.
So with a good set of earphones its easily on par with the Galaxy S and an IPod for that matter... Hope that helps.
EDIT- I also had a Desire and the sound even with the standard headphones was much better on the DHD
Nice to hear good stuff for music quality. Can anyone confirm If radio loudness is good or not with headsets (compared to mp3 listenning). Also It has got RDS support, right?
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Yes I can help, my friend is here with her HD and I had a galaxy s not long back..(sold this week)
Galaxy s vs Desire HD - music through loud speaker - Galaxy S kicks its butt.
Galaxy S vs Desire HD - music through standard supplied earphones - Galaxy S again sound better.
Galaxy S vs Desire HD - music with a set of sennheiser cx500 in the DHD (ebay £10, best earphones for the price, trust me) WOW, what a difference, lovely sound and good bass, on par with Galaxy S id say..
Basically the external speaker isn't that loud (its not bad but its just not loud enough...as always...thanks HTC)
The supplied headphons that come with the Desire HD are crap..
Get a good set of earphones (the sennheiser cx500 were just an example but I found them to be very good for the money)...the difference is like night and day.
So with a good set of earphones its easily on par with the Galaxy S and an IPod for that matter... Hope that helps.
EDIT- I also had a Desire and the sound even with the standard headphones was much better on the DHD
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Thanks mate, appreciate the honesty.
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Thanks mate, appreciate the honesty.
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Hello matey, no problem, really it just comes down to Samsung ship far better headphones in box than the HTC, once you get a decent set the DHD sound is dam good.
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Hello matey, no problem, really it just comes down to Samsung ship far better headphones in box than the HTC, once you get a decent set the DHD sound is dam good.
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Yes Rich, appreciate that.
My problem though is I do use the external speaker a lot.
I take an awful lot of video's of my 3yr old granddaughter and pass the phone around to show the rest of the family (when out & about that is.... Near a TV and I either use the TV Cable or DLNA).
Taking these video's and playing them back through the speaker is sheer bliss.
Hence my nightmare..... The SGS has an excellent camera and bloody good loudspeaker to boot.
I've a strong feeling the DHD I'm ordering soon will disappoint.
Hi, first time android owner here. I recently switched to the CM nightly builds, which I am loving, however I have noticed the audio quality has dropped of dramatically since switching from the standard oppo fw. Now I am streaming my music from google play which AFAIK was unaffected by the dolby sound and the dirac audio features of the oppo ROM. Is this something that should be expected? Its bad enough that Id rather not listen to music at all. Also is there a possibility of porting the audio features of the standard Oppo ROM to the current CM builds?
At this point I think id rather use a buggy, less functional oppo rom with great sound quality and that just sucks:crying:
I'm a music lover and have pretty good ears, I really like cm10.1 and other roms but the reason I left it (besides being a beta tester) is because of lag that happens after a few hours and also because of the issue with audio quality. Yeah it looses quality. Oh and camera quality as well
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I haven't noticed much of a drop in quality, but I didn't stay on stock for long. Maybe I'll switch back to stock on the next beta and see what the audio and camera are like. I have no camera on my current ROM.
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I should mention I'm also streaming over blue tooth when making this comparison.
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I'm a music lover and have pretty good ears, I really like cm10.1 and other roms but the reason I left it (besides being a beta tester) is because of lag that happens after a few hours and also because of the issue with audio quality. Yeah it looses quality. Oh and camera quality as well
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Well didi you try to listen music with different earphones ? Shipped earphones can only work ith dirac "ON".
I tryed to use Oppo earphones on HTC and they sounds poor. Also I found poor sounding Find 5 with HTC beats audio earphones.
If you find some conclusion pls let me know, because I'm not willing to use custom rom ..... for now. :victory:
THX
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And do you think that oppo has a better audio than htc or with the beats EQ the One is better ? Maybe with using some good headphones like AKG sennheiser etc...
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I have had both HTC One X, and the Droid DNA and I think Oppo sounds better. I don't know about the New HTC One with Boom-Sound though?
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And do you think that oppo has a better audio than htc or with the beats EQ the One is better ? Maybe with using some good headphones like AKG sennheiser etc...
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Oppo is champ !!! But they(OPPO & DIRAC) made calibration with shipped earphones.
When u use other earphones u must disable DIRAC
otherwise sound is crap.
DIRAC sounds good only with shipped earphones and far far better than anything eles !
I am big audiopile and so far there was no phone to listen music on.
http://www.cabasse.com/cabfx2012/ba...ic-on-wall-baltic-on-base-santorin-30?lang=en
I own a pair :victory:
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Oppo is champ !!! But they(OPPO & DIRAC) made calibration with shipped earphones.
When u use other earphones u must disable DIRAC
otherwise sound is crap.
DIRAC sounds good only with shipped earphones and far far better than anything eles !
I am big audiopile and so far there was no phone to listen music on.
http://www.cabasse.com/cabfx2012/ba...ic-on-wall-baltic-on-base-santorin-30?lang=en
I own a pair :victory:
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Completely agree. Dirac sounds horrible with anything other than the stock earphones.
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Completely agree. Dirac sounds horrible with anything other than the stock earphones.
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Sounds like Dirac is nothing more than marketing bull**** to describe an EQ preset that works around crummy earphones... Kinda like HTC's Beats Audio (which is just a crappy EQ preset too).
No No No
Entropy512 said:
Sounds like Dirac is nothing more than marketing bull**** to describe an EQ preset that works around crummy earphones... Kinda like HTC's Beats Audio (which is just a crappy EQ preset too).
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It's not bull.... and for sure this is not just an EQ preset like HTCs Beats Audio.
Most of brands use branded cost effective solution (EQ based) to impress customers but Oppo does not.
DIRAC correct phase to firms up the bass, removes resonances, focuses the stereo image and makes voices stand out like you never have heard them before.
whynotbgd said:
It's not bull.... and for sure this is not just an EQ preset like HTCs Beats Audio.
Most of brands use branded cost effective solution (EQ based) to impress customers but Oppo does not.
DIRAC correct phase to firms up the bass, removes resonances, focuses the stereo image and makes voices stand out like you never have heard them before.
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All marketing mumbojumbo for "cheesy postprocessing and/or lame EQ preset"
The fact that it only works to "fix" Oppo's cheap earbuds is a clear sign that it is just an EQ preset designed to compensate for the deficiencies of cheap earbuds.
All of the research I've read indicates that DIRAC serves to do only one thing: Compensate for cheapo earbuds to make them sound better. It will make good earbuds/earphones sound like crap, and is unncessary with them.
When you can get Monoprice 9927s for <$10:
http://www.monoprice.com/products/p...=10823&cs_id=1082303&p_id=9927&seq=1&format=2
http://lifehacker.com/5991079/monoprice-improves-on-the-best-7-headphones-youll-ever-buy
http://thewirecutter.com/reviews/best-headphones-under-30/
And Comply foam replacement tips for $15:
http://www.complyfoam.com/
http://www.amazon.com/Comply-T-400-Isolation-Earphone-Medium/dp/B002NUJ2RM/ (for the non-waxguard version, waxguard is $20 for three pairs)
It's pointless to waste time working around crappy cheap OEM buds.
Edit: In general, Comply foam tips are one of the best "bang for your buck" upgrades for any earbud (except ones that already have foam tips)
Yeah, honestly, this crap is like the same BS they pull with Pixel count in cell cameras.
I have some very nice Westone buds that sound amazing on any phone I've had. Turn off all the garbage and you get yourself a hell of an audio experience. These guys feel like they have to provide some audio gem in name because these bloody devices are phones, not good quality audio gear. If you want to bump your audio experience, go get a portable amp and melt your brain.
The Oppo and CM sound great. Only need I have for the DSP is to tweak the sound of the speaker for voice calls.
Is there a different type of bluetooth used by cm compared to stock Oppo ROM? I read something about different compression formats like apt-x. Perhaps cm just needs a bluetooth overhaul.
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Is there a different type of bluetooth used by cm compared to stock Oppo ROM? I read something about different compression formats like apt-x. Perhaps cm just needs a bluetooth overhaul.
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I have had no issues with Bluetooth with my Sony bluetooth headset.
Google completely replaced the entire Bluetooth stack with 4.2
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Is there a different type of bluetooth used by cm compared to stock Oppo ROM? I read something about different compression formats like apt-x. Perhaps cm just needs a bluetooth overhaul.
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I used to have the s3 and apt x enables headphones and the sound quality is just on another level! Standard bluetooth SBC suports stereo up to 345kbps but idk why, for the most part, they end up sounding bad in most cases. Apt-x lets better audio pass though with minimal compression.
read these two wikies
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SBC_(codec)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apt-X
now for dirac, it may just be an eq thing but idk. speaker sound much better with audio calls and just playing music. there is bass, and mids added (looking like an eq thing as of now). When it comes to music listening, without any mod, cm10 doesnt sound that great. With the V4A sound mod, it sounds really good. V4A sound mod on stock rom helps but not too much. IDk what oppo has done, butif there is no specific hardware thing within the phone that is activated with any rom, then i guess it;s an eq thing? anyone correct me if im wrong
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I used to have the s3 and apt x enables headphones and the sound quality is just on another level! Standard bluetooth SBC suports stereo up to 345kbps but idk why, for the most part, they end up sounding bad in most cases. Apt-x lets better audio pass though with minimal compression.
read these two wikies
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SBC_(codec)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apt-X
now for dirac, it may just be an eq thing but idk. speaker sound much better with audio calls and just playing music. there is bass, and mids added (looking like an eq thing as of now). When it comes to music listening, without any mod, cm10 doesnt sound that great. With the V4A sound mod, it sounds really good. V4A sound mod on stock rom helps but not too much. IDk what oppo has done, butif there is no specific hardware thing within the phone that is activated with any rom, then i guess it;s an eq thing? anyone correct me if im wrong
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I'm positive it's an EQ thing. Might be able to achieve similar results by playing with DSP Manager
I feel like the audio quality improved on the external speaker with cm10.1
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speaker sound much better with audio calls and just playing music. there is bass, and mids added (looking like an eq thing as of now). When it comes to music listening, without any mod, cm10 doesnt sound that great.
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I'm positive it's an EQ thing. Might be able to achieve similar results by playing with DSP Manager
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I'm having big battery issues with my Galaxy S2 and was considering the switch to the Find5, the good sound quality being one of the strongest argument for me so the fact that Dirac is only an EQ to compensate crappy earbuds is kinda bumping me out
A long long time ago I used to listen to music on a iAudio X5 / Shure E4g combo, with great quality (the integrated EQ helped, but still wow, great sound). Now I'm on the GS2, and it's fine with a pair of Ultimate Ears 400vi but I'm not coming back to crappy earbuds, so if the only plus of the Find5 in the audio corner besides the speaker is an EQ then I guess I'll have to wait until the next big cheap thing
What do you think? Considering Oppo opened its sources from the start is it possible that the sound capabilities of the stock rom get ported to other roms like CM?
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With the V4A sound mod, it sounds really good. V4A sound mod on stock rom helps but not too much?
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How does it work on CM? Gotta test that right away on my S2
You definitely have to play with v4a until you get the right sound for you. And sound settings varies from headphone to headphone
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May be an eq thing but stock ROM produces better sound and louder volume. Bass is also stronger on stock ROM.
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When u use other earphones u must disable DIRAC
otherwise sound is crap.
DIRAC sounds good only with shipped earphones and far far better than anything eles !
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took your statement and did a test myself on stock rom and on firefly (international) , found some good music and hooked up the stock headset in the find 5, sounds great with DIRAC , as you said, then switched headset after have playing music in a periode, then tested with DIRAC enabled on my beats audio headset (stock from htc sensation xl), and sound was still really good, not much diffrent, only beats had more bass , but that headset is also a inear headset, which usually gives more bass.
Then just today, after flashing a codefireXperimental rom, as name say, not released at all, and then tested both headsets again, this time, ofc without DIRAC, but nothing else, no audio mods at all. and stock headset is a little bit more bad in cfxp than in stock with DIRAC, but not at all as in other custom roms ive tried. then switched to beats headset, very little diffrent here, from stock rom with DIRAC and now in custom rom.
After all, i think that audio quality ,cant only be blamed at DIRAC , if you look in this link , its pretty impressive who uses DIRAC, so im sure its not crap only
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Shipped earphones can only work ith dirac "ON".
Also I found poor sounding Find 5 with HTC beats audio earphones.
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Thats not true, it works fine without DIRAC enabled, and after testing my own beats headset with dirac and without in custom roms, i dont hear at all that the sound is more bad with Dirac than it is without, infact i like the audio more with my find 5 and beats audio, even in cfxp, than i do with beats audio on my htc sensation xl.
so after buying the Z3 and expecting a great audio quality compared to my old lg p880, i was quite disappointed by the lack of bass.
To be completely fair i did have viper4android app on my old phone. this app requires root and thus i could not use it :crying::crying:
So after hours of research and testing i found the perfect solution.....
people behold: noozxoide eizo rewire PRO. i wont talk more about it as there is a full xda post about the app below:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2039716
what i like on this app is the very deep bass and crisp clear high tones :laugh: it makes me love this device as i did not like the z3 purely because music plays a big role for me.
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so after buying the Z3 and expecting a great audio quality compared to my old lg p880, i was quite disappointed by the lack of bass.
To be completely fair i did have viper4android app on my old phone. this app requires root and thus i could not use it :crying::crying:
So after hours of research and testing i found the perfect solution.....
people behold: noozxoide eizo rewire PRO. i wont talk more about it as there is a full xda post about the app below:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2039716
what i like on this app is the very deep bass and crisp clear high tones :laugh: it makes me love this device as i did not like the z3 purely because music plays a big role for me.
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hi raviboy100,
mind sharing your settings ?
I have chosen in line, amd tickdd tbe first box. Selected unique 2 amd the rest is visit in this image
Work great thx
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I tried the settings above and my sound became lower than it was (at the 80/100 mark). I don't understand how this is even better. Are you talking about the sound coming out of the phone's speakers or to an external source or headphone? I'm listening from the phone's speakers itself.
Im talking about quality rather than volume, disable the first box where u selected unique II. And it should go back to original volume and still have a better bass @hanime
Hey thank you for posting about this audio app, its make a big difference and is making me luv this phone even more..
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Im talking about quality rather than volume, disable the first box where u selected unique II. And it should go back to original volume and still have a better bass @hanime
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When you say "lack of bass" people are going to assume you mean there's not much bass, not that it's low quality. Not sure what low quality bass is, actually. On headphones, my Z3 is fine - very bassy if you have an equalizer to make changes to it. There's no inherent problem with the Z3 and bass. (It's just a shame they don't provide a way of beefing up the vibrate!)
Out of the box, the volume meter actually bugs me. At 50% the volume is so low. At 80%, it starts to sound like 50% on other phones. It gets really loud after that. So looking at it, it is like an extreme exponential graph at the 80% mark.
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Out of the box, the volume meter actually bugs me. At 50% the volume is so low. At 80%, it starts to sound like 50% on other phones. It gets really loud after that. So looking at it, it is like an extreme exponential graph at the 80% mark.
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Yup totally agree with you. this kinds joins the problem of the low notifications problems.
Pretty crazy that Sony a maker of "sound products" cant even get this right.
Makes me really miss my Htc One M7
raviboy100 said:
Im talking about quality rather than volume, disable the first box where u selected unique II. And it should go back to original volume and still have a better bass @hanime
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Had a p880 as well before the Z3 and I fully agree with you.
It's not the same without V4A so thanks for your finding.
Will definitely try this one right now.
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Thanks for this, the high tones are great now
Funny that this thread popped to the top right when I was going to start a new thread.
Coming from the Rezound and DNA that had Beats EQ, and the iBeats headphones from the Rezound, I've had great portable audio for a long time. I got my S4 and used hacks in 4.3 to get Beats EQ in place with root, but 4.4 lost that ability. Luckily I stumbled upon Viper, which was pretty much perfect like the original Beats EQ once tweaked. That was my only real worry with going to this phone without root, is losing good audio. I was pretty disappointed at first, and had even tried Noozxoide in the past and didn't like the muddy bass it produced, and it was no better now on the Z3v.
Well, after a *ton* of tweaking and messing around and testing with various content, I've come up with a great set of settings for the stock EQ that are pretty darn good. Not Viper good, but will do for now until root is found. Here are the settings:
ClearAudio+ : Off
Sound effect :
Equalizer : Custom
400 : +1
1k : +2
2.5k : 0
6k : -2
16kHz : -1
ClearBASS : +8
Surround sound (VPT) : Studio
S-Force Front Surround : n/a (doesn't affect headphones)
Dynamic normalizer : Off
Headphones : STH-30
Keep in mind, these settings are for iBeats, which reproduce a tremendous amount of clean, deep bass but don't naturally produce it with a flat EQ setting. If your headphones aren't earbuds or have a lot of bass reproduction naturally, you might need to lower the 400/1k/ClearBASS a bit. YMMV based on your headphone quality, but be sure to try it at a low volume first so you don't blow anything!
My setting's
This gives me plenty of bass, and for more bass just lower the bars to the left more, mostly 400 and 1kHz.
Failing that download bass booster but you won't be able to use DSEE HX.
elkay said:
Funny that this thread popped to the top right when I was going to start a new thread.
Coming from the Rezound and DNA that had Beats EQ, and the iBeats headphones from the Rezound, I've had great portable audio for a long time. I got my S4 and used hacks in 4.3 to get Beats EQ in place with root, but 4.4 lost that ability. Luckily I stumbled upon Viper, which was pretty much perfect like the original Beats EQ once tweaked. That was my only real worry with going to this phone without root, is losing good audio. I was pretty disappointed at first, and had even tried Noozxoide in the past and didn't like the muddy bass it produced, and it was no better now on the Z3v.
Well, after a *ton* of tweaking and messing around and testing with various content, I've come up with a great set of settings for the stock EQ that are pretty darn good. Not Viper good, but will do for now until root is found. Here are the settings:
ClearAudio+ : Off
Sound effect :
Equalizer : Custom
400 : +1
1k : +2
2.5k : 0
6k : -2
16kHz : -1
ClearBASS : +8
Surround sound (VPT) : Studio
S-Force Front Surround : n/a (doesn't affect headphones)
Dynamic normalizer : Off
Headphones : STH-30
Keep in mind, these settings are for iBeats, which reproduce a tremendous amount of clean, deep bass but don't naturally produce it with a flat EQ setting. If your headphones aren't earbuds or have a lot of bass reproduction naturally, you might need to lower the 400/1k/ClearBASS a bit. YMMV based on your headphone quality, but be sure to try it at a low volume first so you don't blow anything!
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Tested your settings on Man of Steel, it gave me goosebumps
Thanks.
My Headphones are the MH750, can i change the setting to this headphones ?
Guys, I have installed Noozxoide Eizo Pro but I hear no difference when I flick between it or audio settings in Sound.
I select it, then play with the various settings in the app and hear no difference.
I'm expecting audible changes between settings like when I play with the stock EQ.
I can't understand what everybody is going on about and I have decent headphones, Sennheiser Momentum On Ear.
Thanks,
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Johann_London said:
Guys, I have installed Noozxoide Eizo Pro but I hear no difference when I flick between it or audio settings in Sound.
I select it, then play with the various settings in the app and hear no difference.
I'm expecting audible changes between settings like when I play with the stock EQ.
I can't understand what everybody is going on about and I have decent headphones, Sennheiser Momentum On Ear.
Thanks,
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I experienced the same thing as you, no audible difference whatsoever.
Yay I'm not alone! Any help? I'm starting to feel that this echoes the story of the Emperor's New Clothes...
You know the one where the King was walking naked through the streets because he believed that he was wearing the most amazing new clothes, meanwhile he was butt naked...
Some of the people in this thread are using horribly cheap headphones, which is really making me question their ability to appreciate good Sound Quality...
Headphones that when I Google their model numbers cost 10-20 GBP.
Anybody who is happy with those, in my opinion, can't tell their ass from their elbow... When it comes to sound.
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Squall24 said:
Tested your settings on Man of Steel, it gave me goosebumps
Thanks.
My Headphones are the MH750, can i change the setting to this headphones ?
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Feel free to test whatever changes you like to my settings, especially if you aren't using the same headphones as me. You won't risk breaking anything unless you blast high volume with cutoff. From my experience with my headphones, though, the STH-30 preset was the only one that still produced clean sound that was able to be adjusted with the EQ bands. The rest had noticeable artifacting or missing dynamic range on one end or the other.
elkay said:
Feel free to test whatever changes you like to my settings, especially if you aren't using the same headphones as me. You won't risk breaking anything unless you blast high volume with cutoff. From my experience with my headphones, though, the STH-30 preset was the only one that still produced clean sound that was able to be adjusted with the EQ bands. The rest had noticeable artifacting or missing dynamic range on one end or the other.
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Ok i'll stay with the STH-30 preset then
For all the music enthosiasts and audiophiles I am starting a thread about this amazing mod thanks to Ael kernel 2.8 from Friedrich and co/B].
Andreilux sound has been known for the galaxy S3 which made it from pretty bad to amazing sound.
The galaxy S6 has a good wolfson dac but was very poorly optimized by samsung, this mod really makes your music back to life!
I'm gonna share you guys my settings and small tutorial how to use it:
What you need is:
- Andreilux mod, Flash hacker kernel
- Vipermod (for me personally I only use it for adding more bass, which is incredible combo!)
- Download synapse app from playstore
Personal Eargasm Settings: (keep in mind this is personal, it can differ alot from headset to headset). I also like warm mid's
MAIN EQUALIZER through Synapse => Audio
Band 1 gain: +12db
Band 2 gain: +8db
Band 3 gain: +7db
Band 4 gain: +1db
Band 5 gain: +2db
Band 6 gain: +1db
Band 7 gain: +1db
Band 8 gain: leave it 0
Viper4android:
- Go to options => Ui setting => Set to expert
- Check Enable V4A-FX powered on
- Dont check firequalizer you dont need it and imo it loses some quality when using it.
- Enable VIPER bass: Bass mode natural, Bass Frequency 50hz,
- Bass boost 16.3 HZ => You chose your own it will vary from headphone to headphone, I need alot of bass to compensate my inears I used.
I recommend try these settings with instrumental genres like rock or metal.
Please share your own results if you found better/other ones!
Thanks to @AndreiLux, @friedrich420, @RJTBVK, @Quintz (info), @Mentalmuso (Weta rom) and many other I probably forgot to make this possibe :good:
I can only find AEL Kernel 2.5. Where did you get 2.8 from and is that for only the Edge or is it also for the flat S6?
It's there on echoe forum mate Googled & u will find it
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Kernel is multivariant so it works for both versions g925 and g920. You can download latest kernel easely via the echoe creations app on playstore
I searched their forum but could only find version 2.5. I think someone else said that you have to register on their forum to get it. Thanks @jody2k
EDIT: Found it! Also v2.9 was released today. Testing it with your config on Synapse.
Friedrich give public release of AEL 2.9 also, so its not mandatory to buy the app but it would def help him their monthly expenses of having the forum
I bought it without hesitation as I like to support those who give their time and efforts to our community
I only created the sound interface so people would stop asking for it. The only good thing about it is to be able to tune your left/right equalizer channels differently. Either use the hardware controls alone or keep with Samsung's Adapt Sound.
Frankly a lot of people here are having a lot of placebo - going through the Adapt Sound calibration and enabling the UHQ upsampler will be enough for 95% of the people.
AndreiLux said:
I only created the sound interface so people would stop asking for it. The only good thing about it is to be able to tune your left/right equalizer channels differently. Either use the hardware controls alone or keep with Samsung's Adapt Sound.
Frankly a lot of people here are having a lot of placebo - going through the Adapt Sound calibration and enabling the UHQ upsampler will be enough for 95% of the people.
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Samsung adapt sound is just horrible imo why would you ever recommend that? Maybe it was an unwilling effect of you but using hardware equalizer is giving much more warmth and "real sound" control directly from the audio chip without any loss of other frequencies when boosting bass and mid's. You should try yourself my friend youll see its not placebo at all.
Damn so many placebo's then past 3/4 years ^^
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Samsung adapt sound is just horrible imo why would you ever recommend that? Maybe it was an unwilling effect of you but using hardware equalizer is giving much more warmth and "real sound" control directly from the audio chip without any loss of other frequencies when boosting bass and mid's. You should try yourself my friend youll see its not placebo at all.
Damn so many placebo's then past 3/4 years ^^
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I actually did the frequency analysis and the frequency calibration to even setup the 8-band equalizer the way it is now, maybe you have some superhuman hearing or vastly different headphones with different impedance but in my opinion Adapt Sound is a much better objective equalizer calibration to make sound actually sound the way it should be.
AndreiLux said:
I actually did the frequency analysis and the frequency calibration to even setup the 8-band equalizer the way it is now, maybe you have some superhuman hearing or vastly different headphones with different impedance but in my opinion Adapt Sound is a much better objective equalizer calibration to make sound actually sound the way it should be.
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Yes "sounding the way it should be" isnt that personal too? sounds just boring for me but thats my personal opinion too, I'm here to help people who are not happy with stock sound.
Using the analysis frequency calibration from adapt sound the high's are still sounding too harsh, mid's are recessed and there is little to no bass at all.
I'm having different headsets to test this including low impedance (apple earpods) and high impedance phones like the sennheiser HD 600 and DT770 from beyerdynamic.
The dac op amp is not powerfull enough though to drive high impedance phones for sounding like they should be
If you dont like this combo i dont blame you, and won't force anyone to use it i'm here to help...
Many people seem to like it though.
anyway @AndreiLux i'm not doubting your sense of audioquality but i think we are discussing about 2 different things here:
I want to sound my own music as a "new experience" like sitting on a attraction. trying new things and pushing boundries in a good way without having imbalance between frequencies.
Stock adapt sound will give you indeed "the sound music should be" voiced in a U shaped trend of equalizer which is the "new norm" of voicing I don't like, as many people don't like too.
Thats makes you maybe more a audiophile than i am, I have never been searching for the absolute "correct" sound but more for making music a new FUN experience.
Listening with M50x... Much improved
Thank man.
2.9 is out. Hehe Friedrich did not left the building
RJTBVK said:
2.9 is out. Hehe Friedrich did not left the building
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Jep he didn't know the mod worked actually as he doesnt have the phone to test it out.
He was very happy to hear it worked and people are interested ^^.
S6 community on echoerom forum just needed/needs a little boost, for all those who can go register on echoerom forum and give your thanks:good:
Sometimes its as simple as having the ability to customize it as you prefer, hardware eq gives a better result than sw eq. Placebo or not, I want control. It's a good thing.
Is anyone having an issue where the audio eq settings are audibly turning off when you home button out of any app? like music, or spotify, or even synapse
EDIT: it fixed itself after a clean install
Mentalmuso said:
Is anyone having an issue where the audio eq settings are audibly turning off when you home button out of any app? like music, or spotify, or even synapse
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Yeah had it once when i plugged in charger and made the charger sound seemned to disable the hardware EQ. Fixed it by unplugging and back plug the jack cable from my headset. But with home button i have not this issue
V3 is out, smooth!!!
For those who give a crap...Have been playing with settings again today, they are are more ear friendly, more balanced.
Can you guys test these out? give some feedback what you think
Keep your bass in viper the same
Band 1 gain: +12db
Band 2 gain: +6db
Band 3 gain: +5db
Band 4 gain: +1db
Band 5 gain: +0db
Band 6 gain: +0db
Band 7 gain: +0db
Band 8 gain: -2db
I'm a novice sound engineer and i have been learning and reading about audio engineering since last 3 years and now music is my life , i LOVE to listen to the music all the time and I'm tend to hear the best quality i can get..
when i buy a phone the first thing i look for is the sound experience of this phone
i don't usually focus on the speakers , i only focus for the output audio jack
i love android and to be honest i hate iphone or iOS in particular .
I've noticed that Iphone can producer a decent sound quality than the most of android devices ! i was very sad since I've noticed that because i will never own iphone whatever happened
and I've searched online for how to improve my device sound quality and i found a lot of solutions !
the best thing that we all already know is Viper4android , Yes we agree on that
viper can give me A LOT of audio modifications with no doubt and with the best settings you get you Finlay will be happy listening to your music but.. viper can producer an enhanced sound with limits !
th loudness cant be that good .. you increase the Gain and you will hear the distortion in your hear
the definition of distortion is simply when you pushing beyond 0db +1db means distortion and you don't wanna hear that
so my target became like that ..
1- get a HIGH and LOUD audio without pushing my audio beyond 0db
2-get a Good audio quality
of course you cant achieve that without having a decent ( earphone - headphones ) and in my opinion try to avoid any unknown brands you can get cheaply in your city market
I'm using my headset Audio-Technica M50x and i love it so much because its a Monitor nit HiFi headset
thats mean its producer a FLAT style audio without any modification at all
HiFi means the opposite
i use a HiFi in my earphones like Skullcandy and sennheiser while I'm out
so this is what Ive tried and what i can recommend for you
Skullcand smokin buds 2 (( cheap + good bass + Loud enough + Normal sound quality ))
Skullcandy 50/50 (( Very good bass + Loud enough + Normal sound quality ))
sennheiser cx200 (( Cheap + Normal loudness + High sound Quality + Perfect bass ))
sennheiser cx300 (( Cheap + Loud enough + Perfect sound quality + Perfect bass ))
and of course th Audio-Technica M50x For the best sound experience i,ve ever had
its VERY LOUD and AWESOME BASS and the sound quality is super but its not very chap
now you've got the right earphone or headset , now this what you should do in my opinion ..
1- install any good kernel you like in your nexus 6 that ca allow you to run a Kernel Adiutor app
2- install Kernel Adiutor from playstore
3- use power AMP as your main music player ( the best music player you can find in android )
WARNING --- you can harm your earphone or your headset if you raised the volume much and you can even hurt your ears so please be careful ---
no you decrees the volume in your device to the half and play the best song you like in power amp and listen to it while you are going to the Sound tap in Kernel Adiutor
and Gently increase the Volume gain .. it will make the sound louder and louder but don't go to the max ... gently increase 1 by one by 1 till you find the perfect sound with no distortion
go to your powerAMP and head to the equalizer and DON'T shape it like a crazy! just make a little changes ( look at the picture ) because PowerAMP will compress your music if you made something crazy like if you increased the 16khz band all to the top
it will give you what you want , a very sharp high ( hats and treble ) but you will loose the mid ( the singer voice for example ) and the Low as well ( bass and bassline )
so take it easy while adjusting these knobs
PowerAMP will give another 2 knobs ( BASS and TREBLE ) yes they are very useful but don't ever get across the 30% to avoid the compressing !
and to make sure that you don't want to ruined your music just enable the Limit button
it will prevent you from crossing the 0db
Now go to the PowerAMP settings-->Audio--->Advanced tweaks menu and make sure they are like this picture
and remember --- your volume was just 50% and you now have amazing loudness
so don't make it higher till you are sure that your headset CAN take more
and please don't harm your ears...
try to listen to a decent music type like House and Trance so u can experience your headset or earphone
i hope that i helped and Sorry for my very bad English :fingers-crossed:
I cannot see the pics good at all
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What about a good and cheap BT???
What is power amp ? Is it better than V4A ? V4A is pretty decent, but with Dolby Atmos that really dials it in even more.
mikeprius said:
What is power amp ? Is it better than V4A ? V4A is pretty decent, but with Dolby Atmos that really dials it in even more.
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Power amp is the normal go to audio player for those that wont rely on cloud based music.
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I cannot see the pics good at all
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Mervingio said:
What about a good and cheap BT???
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ive been using SBH50 its a sony earphones , search for it
mikeprius said:
What is power amp ? Is it better than V4A ? V4A is pretty decent, but with Dolby Atmos that really dials it in even more.
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well , V4A it just a Audio engine and it cannot play the music without an music player , Power amp count as a Music player with engine inside of it , you have many music players in Play store but not all of then has an integrated Music engine
and with all respect for Dolby , but it cant produce a decent gain and yes you can get much more bass but this is will cost you some of your loudness
Audio technical m5x
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I see you're a KSHMR fan as well!