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2nd transformer and now backlight issues

This is the second transformer I have purchased, received directly from amazon not even a reseller... This one the box has nasty finger smudges all over it and looks as if the box had been opened... but
Anyways... The issue being with this one is that (4) of the backlights are visable at all screen brightnesses. I did not have this issue on the other one I had (screen was flickering like short in the unit somewhere, so decided to return and order new one seeing as it would be faster then RMA)
Not sure if this is normal or if this is another reason to return this device as it seems like quality control seems to be an issue with this product.
Just seems annoying that is what I focus on all the time and not sure if this is normal or if I got yet another defective unit...
Please let me know if yours looks like this otherwise I believe I am returning this one and ordering another. This is unacceptable to me.

I just recieved another transformer from amazon today too. I sent the other one back and purchased this one. Both of the transformers have the same light bleeding like what you have. The one i just recieved today has a lil more light bleeding than the one i sent back. I'm keeping this one. Not going to send it back anymore.

That looks pretty bad. I have some backlight bleeding, but I have to go out of my way to see it (max out the brightness in a dark room).

Here is a picture of mine. And this is basically the worst possible combinations of maximum brightness, completely dark room, and solid black wallpaper.
The light bleed is only a little noticeable on the lower left side and maybe a bit in the upper right. But what is annoying me is if you look closely there is a small light color blotch in the middle lower area of the screen. Argh!
This is the second Transformer I had and the second one with some really odd screen defect.

already requested to ship back to amazon... this sucks!!! but when trying to watch a movie the bleed is horrible.
I wish my original one from walmart didn't have a short in the screen (as you moved it the screen would turn on and off) because that one was otherwise perfect 100% no screen bleeding even on 100% brightness!

Ravynmagi said:
Here is a picture of mine. And this is basically the worst possible combinations of maximum brightness, completely dark room, and solid black wallpaper.
The light bleed is only a little noticeable on the lower left side and maybe a bit in the upper right. But what is annoying me is if you look closely there is a small light color blotch in the middle lower area of the screen. Argh!
This is the second Transformer I had and the second one with some really odd screen defect.
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I'd return that. That looks horrid. You pay for something and expect to be flawless. Now I mean if this was on display and someone tried to sell you it, you wouldn't have bought it if it came with that flaw now would you.

Yeah, I'm going to return mine. I bought it from a local Fry's Electronics and I got about 10 more days left to do the return. And they don't have anything in stock to exchange with.
I'm still struggling with if I want to exchange or get a refund and buy something else instead. Need a few more days to think it over (and maybe a look at a few more Galaxy Tab 10.1 reviews).

Ravynmagi said:
Yeah, I'm going to return mine. I bought it from a local Fry's Electronics and I got about 10 more days left to do the return. And they don't have anything in stock to exchange with.
I'm still struggling with if I want to exchange or get a refund and buy something else instead. Need a few more days to think it over (and maybe a look at a few more Galaxy Tab 10.1 reviews).
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Nothing will be 100% problem free... just look at the ipad 2 screen issues... the transformer and its dock are a 1, 2 punch... and they said for any future transformer line the keyboard dock will fit, thats a +

Thremix said:
Nothing will be 100% problem free... just look at the ipad 2 screen issues... the transformer and its dock are a 1, 2 punch... and they said for any future transformer line the keyboard dock will fit, thats a +
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I understand. But it seems like my odds of getting a defect free tablet may be higher with some manufactures than others.
My iPad was perfectly fine, first try. I've had two Xooms, both were perfect pieces of hardware (just too heavy and too expensive). My luck hasn't been as good with ASUS though.
Problem is both of the tablets I want seem to have manufacturing problems. I like the Galaxy Tab 10.1 too (though the lack of micro SD is why I bought the Transformer). But even Samsung seems to be having manufacturing problems with theirs too. Seems like far too many Google IO owners have their glass popping out of their bezel. Ugh. And it's looking like the production Wifi model has this issue too.

Well i deliberately wasnt lookig for issues and i can say the bleed is worse on the tf than my ipad 2. Also, of all sites, this forum craaaaaawls on it. Laggy as hell

XDA seems to really hate Android browsers. Haha. Opera Mini works MUCH better here though.

I thought I'd post a sample of the light bleed vs iPad 2. Both at 100% which frankly I'd never use this dark. However, the other shot is 50%.
I kept them small rather than two megs each. IMHO neither is acceptable at the price point. The tf changes with pressure the iPad 2 doesn't. The transformer is worse.
I have bad luck with screens. Also there are about ten stuck pixels seen on a black screen, I'm sure more if I run the color range.
Would you keep it? Don't think I will be. :/ and the iPad is getting exchanged.

O.K. mine issues:
Light bleeds on bottom right and right side of screen (on bottom left there is not such bleed as on picture this is kind of photo rendering issue)
http://img820.imageshack.us/img820/7805/32268220.jpg
Two defective spots of pixels on dark screen only
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Zoomed defective pixels..
http://img812.imageshack.us/img812/7434/72512206.jpg
But I notice this in only %1 in my daily use, because I am not using it in dark room on dark screen at full brightness
What bothers me more is speaker disbalance (right is normal left is only 30% as loud as right). But if I have to wait for RMA I won`t take it to RMA because I just love it too much and don`t want to wait for stupid RMA.. Maybe I will give it to RMA after 23 months (in Lithuania there is 2 Year warranty)
BTW I contacted seller and waiting for answer and if they will not exchange it i will live with these issues
P.S. speaker test:

yah i noticed thatpressure on the back increasesthe bleeding but my photo was with no pressure. And dam this site lags on this transformer.
Still returning...sadly

just received my 3rd one in today. few dead pixels throughout the screen and then one big area that is washed out about the size of my thumb.
amazon refused to exchange this one and now says i have to go through asus. BULLSH**

i have to return mine due to the backlight as well, its got a bleed that seems like its getting worse every day.
also from amazon! i really dont want to send it back either

h00ligan said:
Well i deliberately wasnt lookig for issues and i can say the bleed is worse on the tf than my ipad 2. Also, of all sites, this forum craaaaaawls on it. Laggy as hell
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If you go to the bottom of the page on this site there is a arrow down box that says XDA 2010, switch it to XDA Classic and the website runs really smooth then.

thanks!
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this is exactly how my current (3rd) is. the other two had bleed, but not as defined as this one's is. the others were more diffused.
Spider210 said:
This is the second transformer I have purchased, received directly from amazon not even a reseller... This one the box has nasty finger smudges all over it and looks as if the box had been opened... but
Anyways... The issue being with this one is that (4) of the backlights are visable at all screen brightnesses. I did not have this issue on the other one I had (screen was flickering like short in the unit somewhere, so decided to return and order new one seeing as it would be faster then RMA)
Not sure if this is normal or if this is another reason to return this device as it seems like quality control seems to be an issue with this product.
Just seems annoying that is what I focus on all the time and not sure if this is normal or if I got yet another defective unit...
Please let me know if yours looks like this otherwise I believe I am returning this one and ordering another. This is unacceptable to me.
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yah returned the 3rd one. amazon refuses to send me another one. says its likely to be DOA based on my past experience... wtf...

[Q] how much light bleed is too much?

I have some light bleed in both of the bottom corners. They are clearly visible on 100% brightness in a completely dark room while displaying a black image, however when the brightness is set to 0% I can only just make out where the bleed occurs. It's almost a yellowish hue and spurts off the edge of the display a few millimeters. Now with auto-brightness on and just using my device it doesn't really jump out to and when showing it to others they couldn't even spot it when I told them to look for it. I just wondered if others were having this issue and if it was worth it for me to try to RMA another one. Funny thing is I just turned on my old 7 inch galaxy tab 2 and it has some bleed, but its not nearly as noticeable. As someone was saying I just wonder if a larger percentage of these have light bleed then those that don't.

tcb4 said:
I have some light bleed in both of the bottom corners. They are clearly visible on 100% brightness in a completely dark room while displaying a black image, however when the brightness is set to 0% I can only just make out where the bleed occurs. It's almost a yellowish hue and spurts off the edge of the display a few millimeters. Now with auto-brightness on and just using my device it doesn't really jump out to and when showing it to others they couldn't even spot it when I told them to look for it. I just wondered if others were having this issue and if it was worth it for me to try to RMA another one. Funny thing is I just turned on my old 7 inch galaxy tab 2 and it has some bleed, but its not nearly as noticeable. As someone was saying I just wonder if a larger percentage of these have light bleed then those that don't.
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IMO, if you have to sit in a pitch black room and crank the brightness up to 100%, then I would definitely keep it."Too much" is hard to define; many ppl here will RMA until they find a "perfect" unit.
I've heard ppl say that not all devices have bleeding, but in a world of mass produced products, screen bleed is just a side effect of consumer demand.
My family uses both Apple and Google/Android products. This includes 1st gen iPad & 1st gen iPad 2, and 3 android tablets made by HP, Asus, and now, Google. They ALL have screen bleeding. (HP being the worst of the five)
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xIC-MACIx said:
IMO, if you have to sit in a pitch black room and crank the brightness up to 100%, then I would definitely keep it."Too much" is hard to define; many ppl here will RMA until they find a "perfect" unit.
I've heard ppl say that not all devices have bleeding, but in a world of mass produced products, screen bleed is just a side effect of consumer demand.
My family uses both Apple and Google/Android products. This includes 1st gen iPad & 1st gen iPad 2, and 3 android tablets made by HP, Asus, and now, Google. They ALL have screen bleeding. (HP being the worst of the five)
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True, and like you said a lot of them may have it. What I don't want to do is order another and have it be worse. I just wondered if it was common and if those that can make it out in everyday use are going to return it. With that said mine can't be too bad as it isn't visible on any other color than black.

tcb4 said:
True, and like you said a lot of them may have it. What I don't want to do is order another and have it be worse. I just wondered if it was common and if those that can make it out in everyday use are going to return it. With that said mine can't be too bad as it isn't visible on any other color than black.
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I would keep it sounds like minor light bleeding for you. It's normal to have some light bleed anyways. I've had it on all my devices (IconiaA500, Galaxy tab 10.1, Prime, Infinity, Note 10.1). If its visible for me even during the day then it would bother me and I would replace it.
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jjdevega said:
I would keep it sounds like minor light bleeding for you. It's normal to have some light bleed anyways. I've had it on all my devices (IconiaA500, Galaxy tab 10.1, Prime, Infinity, Note 10.1). If its visible for me even during the day then it would bother me and I would replace it.
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It is visible during the day with auto brightness on, but it's only because of the black bar along the bottom. It is only just visible in lowish light with auto brightness on, so I don't know if I should send it back. The only thing I don't want to do is send it back and get one that has it worse.

does anyone not have light bleed?

Hi. I read a lot of light bleed issues.
Are there any without light bleed?
Is there a poll on this. I am curious about the ratio.
I am getting my nexus 10 today and will not be able to use it till the 25th.
I hope I wont be RMAing it on the 26th...
Thanks joe

I have purchased 3 N10s so far for myself, family member and a friend. All were purchased with 1 week or so gap and all 3 have backlight bleed to varying degree. Unless you have really bad bleed which is discoloured like too yellow, stick with what you have as there is every chance you might get worse piece.
While backlight bleed does not bother you most of the times, yellow one is whole different story.

Funkym0nkey said:
I have purchased 3 N10s so far for myself, family member and a friend. All were purchased with 1 week or so gap and all 3 have backlight bleed to varying degree. Unless you have really bad bleed which is discoloured like too yellow, stick with what you have as there is every chance you might get worse piece.
While backlight bleed does not bother you most of the times, yellow one is whole different story.
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Agree. My first one was the best, it was a relatively small bleed and it was white. I should have kept it. My 2 other replacements were yellow and that sucks. I am hoping my next replacement will be either no bleed or very small white bleed.

I haven't done a full-on light bleed test in a dark room yet, but I have not noticed any on my N10. So, if I have any on my screen, it's very mild.
I just received my N10 yesterday, so it's possible they've improved more recent ones...

I ordered mine the day it was released and I don't notice any at all either. I have not run a full test on it because if I don't see it (even when trying to find it) under normal usage conditions I do not really care if a test says I have it or not. Screen looks perfect to me so I am not really looking for reasons to not like it.

Would be good if you post on this thread to specify what is your BRIGHTNESS setting (full, auto, %, etc)

I have no light bleed on mine bought day of release.

matt212308 said:
I don't notice any at all either. I have not run a full test on it because if I don't see it (even when trying to find it) under normal usage conditions I do not really care if a test says I have it or not. Screen looks perfect to me so I am not really looking for reasons to not like it.
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The same. Fantastic tablet and although some people do seem to genuinely have a defective screen, some people are totally nitpicking and blowing the whole thing out of proportion. If your screen is totally black you're not actually using your tablet for anything so these tests people are running are pretty unrealistic.
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I'm sure all LCD displays have light bleed.

voodooevil said:
I am getting my nexus 10 today and will not be able to use it till the 25th.
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Christmas present then I guess? Mine is too but I convinced the wife to allow me to check it was fault-free and set it up with all my apps and settings so it's ready to go on Christmas day!
Whilst she was at work and it was my day off, I had a good 8 hours of fun testing
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sonicfishcake said:
The same. Fantastic tablet and although some people do seem to genuinely have a defective screen, some people are totally nitpicking and blowing the whole thing out of proportion. If your screen is totally black you're not actually using your tablet for anything so these tests people are running are pretty unrealistic.
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Completely agree with your comment. Some might have true issues. I can see that mine has a slight bleed on the right side but there will never be a time where I sit in a completely dark room and stare at a black screen. Even at full brightness the slight bleed does not affect the look of my tablet in any way. It's an all around beautiful device!

None i've noticed in normal use but also havent gone searching for it. If the only way you can see the light bleed is when the screen is completely black then who cares. If the screen is on and completely black all the time then you have others problems besides light bleed.

My n10 has very little to no light bleed
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None here. Got mine on Monday, expecting to have at least one issue...but not one so far.
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very slight bleed for mine, not noticeable until i turn up the brightness all the way up and really look for it with a black screen

Mine is perfectly fine. No issue.

Mine looks perfect. Of course I'm not looking specifically to see if I do. It amazes me how many people on the forums are going out of their way to look for issues with their tablet.
If it looks good while I'm using it and I have no issues I'm OK with that!!
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I'm not looking specifically to see if I do. It amazes me how many people on the forums are going out of their way to look for issues with their tablet.
If it looks good while I'm using it and I have no issues I'm OK with that!!
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Exactly. On any device, if you're looking for problems you'll inevitably find some but in the real world under usage you'll notice none whatsoever
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I did a bit more experimenting today. If I bring up a full-screen black image in a dark room with screen brightness at 100%, I can see some minimal light bleed in the lower two corners. My guess is, as others have said, that this is just going to be a given with these types of screens. I also noticed:
As soon as I set my screen brightness to auto, while still in a dark room with a full-screen black image, the light bleed was totally unnoticeable.
As soon as I turned on the lights in the room, with screen brightness still at 100% and a full-screen black image, the light bleed was totally unnoticeable.
So, for me at least, light bleed is only noticeable if I intentionally make it happen. Having the screen set to max brightness while in a totally dark room and a mostly black picture on screen is a pretty unlikely scenario in the real world. In normal usage I've never notice the light bleed, and I doubt I ever will.

I've been using my N10 since it was first released and the screen is perfect. Do you need unnatural or unusual conditions to detect light bleed?

Who has screen bleed?

Who has screen bleed issues? Please put what kind of model. Thanks.
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I had a minuscule amount on the original Nexus 7 but none from this new one (LTE model). I've only seen a few issues about screen bleed with the new Nexus

Minor towards the top that's not visible under normal use. Non-issue.

I have, at least imo, bad screen on the top right of the screen. Also have it on bottom left. Really visible against black even at lower brightness. Seriously considering to send this for warranty repair if it covers it. I have 32gb flo.
Btw, there are plenty of threads already about this, even in this section...
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dud3me said:
I have, at least imo, bad screen on the top right of the screen. Also have it on bottom left. Really visible against black even at lower brightness. Seriously considering to send this for warranty repair if it covers it. I have 32gb flo.
Btw, there are plenty of threads already about this, even in this section...
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Same here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2497473 :crying:
Can you take a picture of yours for us?

Katecca said:
Same here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2497473 :crying:
Can you take a picture of yours for us?
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Sure but seems about the same as yours, maybe a little worse. Really disappointing if this is considered acceptable for lcd displays. Almost makes me want to go back to super amoled...

dud3me said:
Sure but seems about the same as yours, maybe a little worse. Really disappointing if this is considered acceptable for lcd displays. Almost makes me want to go back to super amoled...
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Thanks and I am waiting for your image report.
IMO, I may bring it to ASUS service center again near the end of the warranty. I also have the same thought with you, I can live with screen burn-in but not the light bleed.

Katecca said:
Thanks and I am waiting for your image report.
IMO, I may bring it to ASUS service center again near the end of the warranty. I also have the same thought with you, I can live with screen burn-in but not the light bleed.
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Yeah, I can live with this too, but if possible, I could do without it I'll send it in the beginning of 2014 as I won't be able to use it for a while anyway.
I'll attach bunch of pics in various lighting. Most are in dark room (natural light) or completely dark. There's a few in well lit room too. Most are on 100% brightness, some in 50% as well. Unlike you, my screen seems to be fine on blue.
Oh and the quality sucks as I took them with an ancient samsung pocket cam and my s2. S2 seems to have better quality imo
Here's a dropbox link to a zip of all the pictures: LINK
I also added a few as attachments.

dud3me said:
Yeah, I can live with this too, but if possible, I could do without it I'll send it in the beginning of 2014 as I won't be able to use it for a while anyway.
I'll attach bunch of pics in various lighting. Most are in dark room (natural light) or completely dark. There's a few in well lit room too. Most are on 100% brightness, some in 50% as well. Unlike you, my screen seems to be fine on blue.
Oh and the quality sucks as I took them with an ancient samsung pocket cam and my s2. S2 seems to have better quality imo
Here's a dropbox link to a zip of all the pictures: LINK
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I download them from your dropbox and the light bleed in the top right side seems a bit serious. Most cases I googled usually are obvious in black background including yours. However, my case is obvious in any cases except in the dark black background lol
Here is another picture showing the old and new Nexus 7 in Google Now screen. You can see the left edge is brighter especially in the purple area...:crying:

This is a picture of a Nexus 7 (2013) 32GB model K008. The bleeding on the top (left side of the image attached) was visible during regular use and really bothered me, so I returned the device the same evening to the store. After some convincing they swapped it with a new one. That one also has bleeding, but very minor. Not visible during normal use. I'm glad I returned the first one!

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This is a picture of a Nexus 7 (2013) 32GB model K008. The bleeding on the top (left side of the image attached) was visible during regular use and really bothered me, so I returned the device the same evening to the store. After some convincing they swapped it with a new one. That one also has bleeding, but very minor. Not visible during normal use. I'm glad I returned the first one!
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Glad to hear you can return it. Here I am in Hong Kong and I can just bring my Nexus 7 (2013) to repair instead of replacing a new one....

Here is mine. I don't know whether my shooting settings are good or not but maybe someone can help

I have screen bleed on top screen Maybe the problem is that the screw? How to.

Has anyone tried to unscrew the screw?

Hmm I don't think it is related to the screw problem, as the LCD panel and backIit should be assembled as a whole already.

It s a glue problem...
On my previous nexus, after running a few games, screen became yellow.
Bleeding =bad glue job or bad quality.

[Q] Do you have Light bleed on the bottom of your Screen?

Do you have the well described light bleed on the bottom of your screen (7 brighter spots) at low brightness?
Whether you do or do not I am curious to know what your serial number date is.
I.e. are the 1st 3 digits 311 or 312.....
Someone suggested this was fixed on newer batches of these tablets and am curious if the newer serial numbers are showing the same issue.

311, got bleed. Don't care tho.
- For science!

Canadoc said:
Do you have the well described light bleed on the bottom of your screen (7 brighter spots) at low brightness?
Whether you do or do not I am curious to know what your serial number date is.
I.e. are the 1st 3 digits 311 or 312.....
Someone suggested this was fixed on newer batches of these tablets and am curious if the newer serial numbers are showing the same issue.
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Yes but only with a white background at that edge and when the tablet is at less than 20% brightness. If it is a darker background or the tablet is above 20% brightness I have no bleed that I can see. In fact, I never noticed it in regular use until I looked for it in order to reply to your thread. So obviously it does not bother me. SN 311.

Stujoe said:
Yes but only with a white background at that edge and when the tablet is at less than 20% brightness. If it is a darker background or the tablet is above 20% brightness I have no bleed that I can see. In fact, I never noticed it in regular use until I looked for it in order to reply to your thread. So obviously it does not bother me. SN 311.
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Thanks. My purpose is not to get people bothered. I am more thing to establish 2 things. First that unlike light bleed which is random this its a near universallyrics described flaw out limitation of this device and going and returning it for am exchange is likely fruitless. Keep it if you like it or move on. I have chosen to keep mine.
Secondly to seeif there is a pattern to those that claim not you'll have this issue. One person in another post started his first twist had it but the replacement with a newer serial number did not.
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Stujoe said:
Yes but only with a white background at that edge and when the tablet is at less than 20% brightness. If it is a darker background or the tablet is above 20% brightness I have no bleed that I can see. In fact, I never noticed it in regular use until I looked for it in order to reply to your thread. So obviously it does not bother me. SN 311.
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Part of the reason I never noticed it is that I have my on-screen buttons as black so any bleed would never be visible for me in portrait mode. Also, the only time I ever have my brightness that low is at night when reading my kindle app in bed and I use the white text on black background for that so bleed would also never show up in that situation.
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Stujoe said:
Part of the reason I never noticed it is that I have my on-screen buttons as black so any bleed would never be visible for me in portrait mode. Also, the only time I ever have my brightness that low is at night when reading my kindle app in bed and I use the white text on black background for that so bleed would also never show up in that situation.
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Similar situating though sometimes might surf or watch a video in bed at low brightness and then was surprised to see it
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309 Here and yes I have the bleed but it doesn't bother me because most of the time my black nav buttons are there. Only really noticeable when you have only white.

The only bleed I have is when when brightness is jacked up and the background is dark. It goes a bit lighter in the corner but no worse than my nexus 7.
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LeighR said:
The only bleed I have is when when brightness is jacked up and the background is dark. It goes a bit lighter in the corner but no worse than my nexus 7.
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That is traditional light bleed. Please state what serial number you have
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So minor i can barely see when trying in a dark room with any brightness. Less light bleed or inconformaty than any other tab i have owned.
I have a black 309 from best buy.

Canadoc said:
That is traditional light bleed. Please state what serial number you have
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S/N: 311CQSF
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gottahavit said:
So minor i can barely see when trying in a dark room with any brightness. Less light bleed or inconformaty than any other tab i have owned.
I have a black 309 from best buy.
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So what this means, is that the lack of the light bleed at the bottom of the screen that so many of us have is not necessarily related to do the month of manufacture. Somebody had suggested that models with serial 312 and higher were made sense that have not exhibited the same problem.
One thing I have noticed, is that I can lower the brightness on this tablet to a much lower level than any other smartphone or tablet. It is possible that is why we see those 7 lights at the bottom. It probably has to do with the fact that the overall screen brightness is so low that they become visible. Ordinarily on a different tablet it probably doesn't reach brightness level that low where more artifacts in the screen becomes viewable
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Canadoc said:
So what this means, is that the lack of the light bleed at the bottom of the screen that so many of us have is not necessarily related to do the month of manufacture. Somebody had suggested that models with serial 312 and higher were made sense that have not exhibited the same problem.
One thing I have noticed, is that I can lower the brightness on this tablet to a much lower level than any other smartphone or tablet. It is possible that is why we see those 7 lights at the bottom. It probably has to do with the fact that the overall screen brightness is so low that they become visible. Ordinarily on a different tablet it probably doesn't reach brightness level that low where more artifacts in the screen becomes viewable
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This is a great thread and to tell you the truth if you havent began this one i would very soon began one similar. Here is my observations:
My first one was with 7 bright lights on the bottom vissible on white screen(do you tests with an apk thats free from Google playstore called "Backlight bleed apk", its free) from a 35% brightness and lower. It was annoying and second,much more important,for the money i gave to LG i want the product to be of high quality and tested by their technicians very thoughtfully before launching it. So i return it as a DOA. The second one had no 7 bright spots on the bottom but it had a yellow line on the top(under the Lg sign) that was very obvious with a white background (from 60% brightness and up). This one went also back as a DOA. The third one has again 7 bright spots on the bottom but its noticeable with 20% and below. All 3 devices are 311. Its quite a shame that this device with such good specs has such bad screen problems. I thing LG had a wonderfull idea with this tab but hurried to get it to the market.
Does someone with 312 have simmilar problems?
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Does anyone here with the lightbleed problem also have a problem with the screen seeming loose? When I push on my screen I can hear some creaking.

kdog350 said:
Does anyone here with the lightbleed problem also have a problem with the screen seeming loose? When I push on my screen I can hear some creaking.
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Ingesting and unrelated.
Here are my chronicles:
1st G pad: white 310 serial. Had both regular and 7 light bleed. Had not readabout this issue before returned it.
2nd G pad: Black don't recall serial. Good build quality no light bleed but 7 light issue. Now aware this is a common problem. Decide to exchange and go to best buy inspect 2 others (sales person let me setup 3 tablets and look best I could for issues. All 3 had the 7 light thing so figured this must just be a characteristic of the lcd they use in this tablet. So took home
3rd Gpad white w 11 build which in store I thought was better than the 2nd for the 7 light issue.
For Home was wrong and based on what I have read and my assessment I was resigned to the fact that they would all be this way and was going to keep. At this point I stated this thread after reading about some people who did not have this issue, one of them having a December or 312 build which I have been unable to find anywhere.
The build quality was bad in this replacement however. The edges of the tablet were sharp with a seam the others didn't have. Less than 1 day later the bottom right of the tablet must have been lose as depending on how I gripped it, it would creak and pop as if the plastic was coming off and snapping back.
At this point I decided I would return as a defect and got
G pad 4: white 310 build.
Was similar to second tab in buildwith almost no light bleed but had the 7 light issueand also felt the lower right part of screen at edge of bezel felt it had some give. I am now fed up and neuroticabout all this add I am in vacation in the USA and we don't yet have these in Canada.
Wanted to settle it. Found one other best but that head in store stock and it was rainy so I said last try to get at least one with only the 7 light issue.
Picked up a black one. 310 serial.
Took it home knowing that I'd it was no good I would say screw it and get ipad mini.
This one is nearly perfect.
Even at 0 the 7 lights are almost invisible. I have to look for them as I know they should be there. There is just a bit of traditional light bleed visible at 100% brightness in a dark room and in dark room I am rarely above 40%. Build quality is great and screen doesn't have any significant yellow cast.
I love it!!!!
From all my craziness I have discovered a few things that might explain the issues with this tablet.
1) 7light issue is there in every tablet. It is the way the lcd back lights work. The reason I and others likely have a tablet that doesn't exhibit it is due to something else. Brightness of the screen. By this I mean that all the tablets that have the 7 light issue can be dimmed incredibly low at the 0 setting.
Much lower than an ipad other tablet or my Samsung note 3.
My best screen seems noticeably brighter at lowest brightness. When reading an ebook at lowest brightness with white wiring on Black background the text is brighter in this one. So it could be that my 0 brightness calibration of the screen is closer to a 20 on one of the screens exhibiting the 7 light issue.
2) White tablet shows fewer finer prints if that is an issue but the metal black back is sweet!
3)With the voice Siri like app you can have option to enable or disable it listening for a hot word to activate it. With mine turned off my standby battery life is great even with 3 email accounts (1a push exchange account) going. We are taking 1% every 4-6 hours. This is much better than every tablet I have hadand my phone. This in spite of wifi on during sleep.
4) In spite of my issues of which in retrospect I would have been fine with my first 2 tablets and my current one I love this tablet.
It is a much better size than the lost nexus 7 2013 it replaced. Having expandable storage Ada much needed versatility. It does not win in any one category like an ipad or Nexus might but it hits all my desires from stereo speakersto God look to nice screen to great ergonomics.
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311, have the light bleed. thought of exchanging it because it somewhat bothers me when I'm web surfing at night in landscape, but I figured out it doesn't worth the effort becuae probably most of the other slates have this problem too. I was right.
I think we should all be a little bit less perfectionists about our tablet, and give more thought to the good things at the tablet + focus on more important issues in our lives (At least I know I should )

I would like to buy G Pad but before ordering it in online store (Poland) I sent them a message asking for checking some G Pads randomly. The result is shocking: first 10 G Pads have light bleed at the bottom of the screen. After that they decided to check all tablets in stock. It turned out that all of them (> 50) have light bleed at the bottom of the screen. Product manager told me that they will contact with distributor of LG in Poland requesting clarification on that issue and they want to return all G Pads and replace them with good ones.
Will let you know how things will go on.

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I would like to buy G Pad but before ordering it in online store (Poland) I sent them a message asking for checking some G Pads randomly. The result is shocking: first 10 G Pads have light bleed at the bottom of the screen. After that they decided to check all tablets in stock. It turned out that all of them (> 50) have light bleed at the bottom of the screen. Product manager told me that they will contact with distributor of LG in Poland requesting clarification on that issue and they want to return all G Pads and replace them with good ones.
Will let you know how things will go on.
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I have stud I think this is less a defect and more a characteristic of this screen technology. Based on the unit I now which does not have it I can say that mine does not get as dim at 0 percent brightness. Could be like with all LCD tech that below a certain brightness things like this are visible. It is a trade off in that you are getting a screen that can go dimmer but with those lights visible.
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I'm on S/N 311 and I got no bleed at the bottom, but at higher brightness I got a pretty serious bleed at the top left corner, that's left of the LG Logo. I don't notice it normally but when I use the tablet in landscape that spot is covered by the black software key bar, making it stand somewhat out. I'm not gonna get it replaced, I played that game with my SGS-II back in 2011, you ARE going to find something else on the new unit cause you'll have gone in nitpicky mode.
Besides at this price, which is one third of what I paid for my Note 3 on launch day, you can allow a tiny few beauty marks.

Exchanged a black gpad because of a 0.5 inch yellow line at the top of the screen. Don't know the serial number unfortunately.
Got a 312 now as replacement. This has the light bleed at the bottom as well. But I have not seen any of the other issues like the blue line or the issue above. The bleed is noticable, but I might keep it anyway because most of the time i use it in portrait at high brightness....