Midnight release??? - Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

So im just wondering if anyone knows if therell be a midnight release for the nexus 4 or if anyone knows when the orders will go live any info can be helpful!!
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Nobody knows but why the panic?
Its not gonna sell out on the first day, people thought this with the nexus 7 pre-order.
.... Yet all orders from the first WEEK were in the 1st wave of dispatches.
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No panic im selling my phone so I want to order it asap so I dont have to go too long with out one you know!!!
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I was wondering the same thing.
chrisjcks said:
Nobody knows but why the panic?
Its not gonna sell out on the first day, people thought this with the nexus 7 pre-order.
.... Yet all orders from the first WEEK were in the 1st wave of dispatches.
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So were pre-orders for the Nexus 7 started at midnight?

I would think there to be a tremendous difference in demand between a lame ass 7" tab and a quad core 2gb mobile phone with the latest hardware priced insanely cheaper domestically than elsewhere. Insanely cheaper, period.
Never know but I don't expect the 16gb Nexus 4 to last 5min.

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I was wondering the same thing.
So were pre-orders for the Nexus 7 started at midnight?
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No preorders started as soon as Google io was finished

http://forums.androidcentral.com/google-nexus-4/222850-info-nexus-4-t-mobile.html#post2301584
Well there ya go. Part of me didn't want to post it as to steer people away from bringing down the site, but meh, I'll be optimistic that Google has enough stock + demand isn't THATT high.

dralways said:
I would think there to be a tremendous difference in demand between a lame ass 7" tab and a quad core 2gb mobile phone with the latest hardware priced insanely cheaper domestically than elsewhere. Insanely cheaper, period.
Never know but I don't expect the 16gb Nexus 4 to last 5min.
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Why?
Only people who follow these tech sites know about the Nexus 4 here in the UK, no tv, radio, newspaper articles have been shown.
We also get stock from a totally different country to US orders.
For the mast majority, only people who go into an O2 store will know about it, and their stock differs from the playstore stock.
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What does spam f5 mean and what kind of info should you have ready?
I have already bought stuff from the Google Play store so they have all my details. I figured I would just sign in well before midnight and when the Nexus 4 became available I would select it to buy.
Has anyone bought like a device on the first day available and would like to share what happened?

donec said:
What does spam f5 mean and what kind of info should you have ready?
I have already bought stuff from the Google Play store so they have all my details. I figured I would just sign in well before midnight and when the Nexus 4 became available I would select it to buy.
Has anyone bought like a device on the first day available and would like to share what happened?
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Assuming you're serious, spamming F5 means quickly and repeatedly pressing the F5 key on the keyboard, to constantly refresh the webpage in hopes of it letting you order the phone

I have never heard of that before even though I have been around computers since the 70's. Thanks for the clarification.

I thinking the UK is going to be the easier place to get a midnight order done. There have been no ads or whatever as someone in this thread has already said. Also, here in the UK the majority of people buy off contract phones so this one isn't going to be that different. But on the flipside in the US there is a massive LTE network that you wont be able to access and that will cut the amount down quite a bit. I'm guessing they will sell a lot but I don't see it selling out...... unless they start running ads after they open the site to orders.

http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/1...-shipments-start-november-13th-no-pre-orders/
I wouldn't bet or hold your breath on a midnight release, but who knows anything can happen.
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Are you going to stand in line for the November 13th launch?

lol assuming the N10 will be sold in stores starting November 13 are you going to stand in line, Applefanboy-style?
I will be standing at my job until I get off which will be followed by going to the store
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lol assuming the N10 will be sold in stores starting November 13 are you going to stand in line, Applefanboy-style?
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I've been asking around, neither Best Buy or Gamestop have any orders of the N10 coming, I suspect that November 13th will only be google play availability.
Wonder when Walmart is getting it?
I'd imagine (and hope) that it will be the same as the Nexus 7 launch and recent 32gb upgrade. Shops and the Play store will have it for sale on the same day.
I'm hoping to walk into PCWorld/Curry's in the UK next Tuesday morning and get one.
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I'd imagine (and hope) that it will be the same as the Nexus 7 launch and recent 32gb upgrade. Shops and the Play store will have it for sale on the same day.
I'm hoping to walk into PCWorld/Curry's in the UK next Tuesday morning and get one.
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I'm hoping shops will have them at the same time, but I suspect that google will keep the sales to them only for a couple of weeks, and will allow shops to sell towards the end of november in a way that may help, cos it will give time to find out and issues before I make my mind up.
no
no but if its put on sale at 12am somewhere and i can just walk in and casually buy it then i will.
I'm going to sit in my comfortable chair, drinking soda and eating chips. With my fat and hairy hand I'm gonna make a couple of mouse clicks and have this device delivered to my house.
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I'm going to sit in my comfortable chair, drinking soda and eating chips. With my fat and hairy hand I'm gonna make a couple of mouse clicks and have this device delivered to my house.
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Just threw up a little
Without the Fat, Hairy hand, I will do the same thing.
I would never stand in line at a Wal-Mart. Never.
I have a brother-in-law who works for Walmart in a very rural area. Not many job choices there. The employee discount is very small IMO. I will be driving there on Thanksgiving and hoping it's in stock due to being in a rural area. Shouldn't be any lines on Thanksgiving. Tempted to get it sooner though, but 10% discount is $50.
Currys and PC World in the UK will be selling it in store. Will definitely get it from there
I, myself self will be getting one, but I hope that Walmart or best buy carries it. I don't like waiting for stuff to arrive through the mail, when I can go buy it at my nearest wallyworld or best buy.
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Currys and PC World in the UK will be selling it in store. Will definitely get it from there
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Any confirmation yet whether they'll get it on the 13th?
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Only apple eating troll zombies stand in line for tech. Android fans are smarter than that. I'm going to wait and see what the real world reviews are on this upcoming device. If the reviews are good I'll go to wallyworld and slap the cash on the counter and walk out 5min later. Wait in line lol that's funny.
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Any confirmation yet whether they'll get it on the 13th?
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Nothing yet, I'll post it on the Currys/PC world thread (in General) & my twitter account if we do get it for launch day.
We aren't as silly as apple fanboys !!
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What's a line? Is that where I type the name of the shop I want to buy from?
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Do Google employees have Nexus devices already on hold for them?

Are they the first in line to get the devices or do they have to buy from the store like the rest of us?
if you work deving for Google you get a rooted/unlocked one. Not sure it's for much but photo ops these days. But you can get them off eBay occasionally
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Are they the first in line to get the devices or do they have to buy from the store like the rest of us?
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If this source is correct, Google employees had to order just the same as everyone else and a lot of them missed out on buying one too
https://plus.google.com/106515095432315677569/posts/fAA6PNbUxCK
Didn't get yours? That's okay...neither did I...and neither did a lot of Google staff...yet (yes, they order phones just like the rest of us). You will, though...you will. If you don't get it today, the next scheduled release is in 3 days once they can get a better handle on orders and stock.
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bryanlim05 said:
If this source is correct, Google employees had to order just the same as everyone else and a lot of them missed out on buying one too
https://plus.google.com/106515095432315677569/posts/fAA6PNbUxCK
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The reason I asked is because a known Google employee purchased my extra Nexus 4 on ebay so I believe it is correct.
I just thought it was a trap lol.
The guy I talked to for Google Canada said he never even got a chance to order one.
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The higher up guys at google probably got them free or had first hand dibs when they got the shipment (before it went on sale)
CS guys have to pay like everyone else i'm assuming.
I can just imagine all the Google employees dropping all their work and you just see them all constantly hitting F5 at launch time ^_^
No you have to order same as everyone else. UNLESS you are directly involved in development or senior executive
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I work for one of Google's partner companies and I have to speak with their client account team members daily. Last year, when the Galaxy Nexus came out, they all received one with a special battery cover the day before the launch without having to order or wait. However, this time around I've had a few of them confirm that they had to order the phone like the rest of us. Of the 5 account team members I've spoken to in the last day or so, not a single one was able to get an order in for an N4 and most were amazed that I was able to.

When Does Google normally make new Nexus available

I am ready for a new phone... but can still wait for a couple new months.... Want to get the Nexus 4 --- stuck on SGS2 and G2X.
I know the Google I/O is in May, so trying to figure out, wait till May - to see what happens, and then buy a new phone in May (if a new one comes in at that time).. or does the new Nexus not really become available till late in the year for purchase.. about Oct/Nov.
If its that long, I would rather by the N4 right now.
Any Ideas from you guys?
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I am ready for a new phone... but can still wait for a couple new months.... Want to get the Nexus 4 --- stuck on SGS2 and G2X.
I know the Google I/O is in May, so trying to figure out, wait till May - to see what happens, and then buy a new phone in May (if a new one comes in at that time).. or does the new Nexus not really become available till late in the year for purchase.. about Oct/Nov.
If its that long, I would rather by the N4 right now.
Any Ideas from you guys?
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AFAIK, Google never released a Nexus smartphone at I/O. Nexus phones are usually released around Oct/Nov. Nexus 4 was released last Nov. I wouldn't expect another Nexus phone in May. There might however be a Motorola phone during I/O, but I don't think it'll be a Nexus device.
You can expect a successor for Nexus 7 as it was released last I/O.
When they feel the need of more money....
Changing the vendor for the nexus device is just not working for them. This time even they cheated the customers with n4 with all the junky hardware when they knew that new arm designs are coming just after a month.
So a futuristic hardware is what we all need.
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qazibasit said:
When they feel the need of more money....
Changing the vendor for the nexus device is just not working for them. This time even they cheated the customers with n4 with all the junky hardware when they knew that new arm designs are coming just after a month.
So a futuristic hardware is what we all need.
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I have no idea what you're talking about. Nexus devices are intended to be reference devices to showcase the latest versions of Android in their stock, unfettered form. They're for developers. Nexus devices (outside of the Nexus One) have never been top of the line in terms of hardware. They don't need to be. Nexus isn't marketed as a premium brand, nor does it have the premium brand price tag that comes along with it. My God, they're selling the Nexus 4 for $299 8GB and $349 16GB off contract. What do you expect for that price?
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When they feel the need of more money....
Changing the vendor for the nexus device is just not working for them. This time even they cheated the customers with n4 with all the junky hardware when they knew that new arm designs are coming just after a month.
So a futuristic hardware is what we all need.
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I fail to see where the Nexus 4 hardware is "junky."
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I am ready for a new phone... but can still wait for a couple new months.... Want to get the Nexus 4 --- stuck on SGS2 and G2X.
I know the Google I/O is in May, so trying to figure out, wait till May - to see what happens, and then buy a new phone in May (if a new one comes in at that time).. or does the new Nexus not really become available till late in the year for purchase.. about Oct/Nov.
If its that long, I would rather by the N4 right now.
Any Ideas from you guys?
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You won't see a new Nexus phone before fall. So if you want a Nexus, pull the trigger on an N4. It's a great phone, the price is right, and you're basically guaranteed Android version updates through at least the middle of next year.
qazibasit said:
When they feel the need of more money....
Changing the vendor for the nexus device is just not working for them. This time even they cheated the customers with n4 with all the junky hardware when they knew that new arm designs are coming just after a month.
So a futuristic hardware is what we all need.
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Subjective opinion is subjective.
As for ETA of Nexus 5, I too doubt Google will announce it at Google I/O. Although it has been done before (HTC Dream), recent trend shows Google I/O focuses more on tablets. But you never know, just be patient.
We will see, last year Google launched two tablets. Rumours are that Motorola X will be launched on Google I/O. I hope they will, but if you need a phone now, N4 is still very good choice.
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Like said by most, look more for the fall for a true Nexus device. This might talk about KLP but not new hardware on the phone, maybe preview an update to the tablet though.
qazibasit said:
When they feel the need of more money....
Changing the vendor for the nexus device is just not working for them. This time even they cheated the customers with n4 with all the junky hardware when they knew that new arm designs are coming just after a month.
So a futuristic hardware is what we all need.
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There is a thanks button but is there a "ignore this person who has no clue" button?
Junky hardware? The most recent marketed ARM architecture in a quad core phone with a decent GPU, spangly glass back, HD screen and all for nearly the subsidized price of every other phone on the planet (the SGS3 is like $600 without carrier subsidy).
This phone is easily the bargain of the century, which is probably why Google was caught off-guard when they launched it. The previous Nexii were only bought by nerds, now I know a dozen people who used other Android phones or iPhones that jumped to unrooted Nexus 4s just because of the cost savings.
Thank you guys... as I stated, I can easily put of a couple of months, its mainly the G2X that is killing me and want to replace that....but if its till fall, then I might as well bite the bullet and get this one.. instead of waiting till later on.
does anyone think the Motorola phone will be thru google also.. or would that be thru carriers? because I am DONE with carriers.. want it straight from the source.
Right now its sounding like its not going to be a Nexus, so no guaranteeing that its going to be on the cutting edge of Android. Also, it might be available unlocked but I suspect it wont be unlocked for $300/350. Probably more like the $600 everything else goes for unlocked.
Even if it was only $400 Id rather have the Nexus 4. Every rumor seems to be stuck on the Tegra chip, I have had two devices with Tegra chips and both were massive disappointments. Qualcomm seems to be really good at beating Nvidia in the mobile space without breaking a sweat.
Ditch the carriers now, its amazing how satisfying it can be. Not only is your bill cheaper but you always know in the back of your mind that if they ever angered you that you could tell them to shove it at any time.
Yeah .. I am ready to ditch the carriers... just need to have my number ported over to GVoice so that I can keep my number....unless there is another method?
How does keeping your number work with prepaid?
And Yeah I am going to go ahead and get the Nexus then, since fall is too far away to deal with G2x --- cant believe its another LG I am going to go to after that fiasco
You can port it to pre-paid as well, they are still under the rules set by the portability act. Being said you might as well just port it to GVoice and use that. Then you could change carriers and sims at will without worrying about the number.
One thing to note, voicemail is a bit wonky with pre-paid because only AT&T right now supports conditional forwarding, so if someone got a hold of the actual phone number you will get an old fashioned voicemail instead of GVoice. Otherwise it works well (I call out using the app). Calling the Google Voice number though gets you the transcribed voicemails.
I am with straight talk and can flip back and forth at will between AT&T or T-Mobile sims month to month based on where I am. I just cant flip numbers back and forth, so that is why the Google Voice number is key.
As far as the phone itself is concerned. I read the reivews (short and long term) for the Optimus the Nexus was made from and everyone, virtually unanimously, said it was an incredible phone let down by ****ty software. Well, making it a Nexus and putting vanilla android solved that. Add that stupidly low price and its a done deal.
Just ordered it from the Play store... I guess they are shipping within about 2 weeks or so.. should get it by April.. hopefully.
mumbojumbo01 said:
Just ordered it from the Play store... I guess they are shipping within about 2 weeks or so.. should get it by April.. hopefully.
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What? I ordered mine I think 2 weeks ago when starting my day in the office and got it waiting for me the next day after work. Well the yellow delivery car was still parking in front of our flat while my wife happened to receive the delivery. This happened to me almost twice, when I ordered the first Nexus 4 a month ago for my cousin in Romania, they needed one more day...
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I fail to see where the Nexus 4 hardware is "junky."
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qazibasit said:
When they feel the need of more money....
Changing the vendor for the nexus device is just not working for them. This time even they cheated the customers with n4 with all the junky hardware when they knew that new arm designs are coming just after a month.
So a futuristic hardware is what we all need.
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What? With one of the best mobile processors available (the best at launch), 2GB ram and a very good 720p HD display; the N4 is faar from being 'junky'.
Get your facts right.
I agree to users who say that n4 offers this much in this price tag. If ur a price centered person then why not go for cheap huwavei phones they have even more to offer in half the price of n4.
Nexus should be a premium device sith futuristic hardware. A average hardware, means that samsung or other oem are giving u more futuristic device that can get more updates on a single version than nexus.
Price should not be a justification.
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qazibasit said:
I agree to users who say that n4 offers this much in this price tag. If ur a price centered person then why not go for cheap huwavei phones they have even more to offer in half the price of n4.
Nexus should be a premium device sith futuristic hardware. A average hardware, means that samsung or other oem are giving u more futuristic device that can get more updates on a single version than nexus.
Price should not be a justification.
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Huwavei??? I won't even consider buying something with that stupid name!!! Just because of the name....
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qazibasit said:
I agree to users who say that n4 offers this much in this price tag. If ur a price centered person then why not go for cheap huwavei phones they have even more to offer in half the price of n4.
Nexus should be a premium device sith futuristic hardware. A average hardware, means that samsung or other oem are giving u more futuristic device that can get more updates on a single version than nexus.
Price should not be a justification.
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That makes no sense...when the n4 came out it came with the best processor on the market and 2 GB of ram...those $200 crap huwavei come with single core 1ghz processors and 512mb of ram and a ****ty screen...so how exactly are they better when they use specs from 2 years ago?
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N4 32GB?

I was planning to get the Nexus 4 this weekend then I heard a rumor about a 32gb version.
http://androidheadlines.com/2013/04/rumor-lg-nexus-4-with-32gb-of-storage-lte-and-key-lime-pie-launching-at-google-io.html
I wanted to get the 16gb version tomorrow. I didn't get my N7 until after they release the 32GB N7 and they got rid of the 8gb n7 and lowed the price of the 16gb. I'm a college student trying to say money.
Do you this might happen to the N4 too? The article says it might be launching at Google I/O which is less than a month away.
Should I wait another month and see what happens or got ahead and get it now?
Thanks!
Then get the n4 32gb. duh.
Smartphone these days gets older quick the more month you wait
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This makes me sick. This is companies testing how stupid consumers can get. I made a post when the nexus 4 first came out stating that they will do this. "Hey let's make a ****ty amount of storage and months later release the same exact phone with more space" why? People people will gladly throw their money at it. People need to open up their eyes seriously
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Smh they should ve did this from the beginning I would've paid 500 for a 32 gb nexus 4 lol...
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Will be the same case as Nexus 7 !?
The rumor going around is not only will it have 32gb but will also have Key Lime Pie first. So really at this point you might as well wait if you are patient enough.
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The rumor going around is not only will it have 32gb but will also have Key Lime Pie first. So really at this point you might as well wait if you are patient enough.
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I not trying to get the 32gb version. I just want a price drop of the current 16gb I'm originally going to get.
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Who knows, the other rumor going around is that a new Nexus 7 will be announced at a price point of $150. So if that is true that a new one with better hardware is released at that price range then have no reason to drop the price or remove the old ones off the play store.
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Who knows, the other rumor going around is that a new Nexus 7 will be announced at a price point of $150. So if that is true that a new one with better hardware is released at that price range then have no reason to drop the price or remove the old ones off the play store.
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That's exactly what I wanted to here. Thanks!
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And the N5 should be appearing around Nov gonna be better!
NEXUS⁴
I doubt it will have LTE (unless the just reenable band 4) but I could see 32gb, not a big deal it's 6mos. after release.
Yes I just bought one the other day... Fml-___- why Google why.
And to the guy above me: I think they're actually putting a new radio in the phone (cdma gsm hybrid)
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@DEFJAMVAN that make two of us. I'm in exact situation and dilemma. Just wish that 15 May could come faster so can decide
Get it while its hot this machine is great even with its storage limitations which help me take the leap to cloud storage which is cheaper than SD cards anyway
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I'm on the same boat. Was gonna buy a N4 this week but will hold till May to see if this rumor is true. What I find difficult is the addition of LTE without carrier involvement (see Verizon GNexus) and if the carrier is involved it most certainly will not be sold for $350 - $400 off contract.
Hopefully they do a different design and also with better camera. Got bored with the current one and need some new design on the nexus. Also throw in lte and higher storage. Don't do CDMA as usual because Verizon sucks.
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hope it will gets more improvement , especially overheat !!! and instant massage delay !!!
Wait this one out
The best thing for you to do is just wait after google i/o... they probably aren't going to release anything before, I wouldn't risk the money when you can save some if you get it after they announce an update n4 or the next nexus
I love how everyone in this thread is taking this article as gospel.
What would be the point in disabling LTE if they are just going to re-enable it?
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Advice Please: Changing Carrier / Phone

I am currently changing my family over to T-Mobile and had ordered an HTC One for both my wife and I and we received them yesterday. I activated my wife's phone as well as my daughter's phone but I have not done my phone yet. Honestly, I have said for awhile that I want a Nexus Phone, and since the phone is almost half the cost of the HTC One it helps saving money to be able to get a Nexus 5 when it comes out.
Now here are my questions and hoping you all could help guide me: With Google I/O starting tomorrow should I get the phone now or wait to see what is announced at Google I/O (Though it sounds like the Nexus 5 won't be announced until October / November)? I ordered these phones via phone so can I return this HTC to the T-Mobile store? And since I want to return this and I they already requested my phone number to be transferred should I get the Nexus 4 from T-Mobile or order from Google Play (I have NO IDEA why the same phone is $130 more on T-Mobile but I will look that one up).
Any advice would be very helpful! Thanks!
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I am currently changing my family over to T-Mobile and had ordered an HTC One for both my wife and I and we received them yesterday. I activated my wife's phone as well as my daughter's phone but I have not done my phone yet. Honestly, I have said for awhile that I want a Nexus Phone, and since the phone is almost half the cost of the HTC One it helps saving money to be able to get a Nexus 5 when it comes out.
Now here are my questions and hoping you all could help guide me: With Google I/O starting tomorrow should I get the phone now or wait to see what is announced at Google I/O (Though it sounds like the Nexus 5 won't be announced until October / November)? I ordered these phones via phone so can I return this HTC to the T-Mobile store? And since I want to return this and I they already requested my phone number to be transferred should I get the Nexus 4 from T-Mobile or order from Google Play (I have NO IDEA why the same phone is $130 more on T-Mobile but I will look that one up).
Any advice would be very helpful! Thanks!
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While there won't be any new/major hardware revisions, it never hurts to wait, especially if it's just a day more.
I'm personally curious if tomorrow is when we'll see the fabled white Nexus 4.
Nightebreed said:
I am currently changing my family over to T-Mobile and had ordered an HTC One for both my wife and I and we received them yesterday. I activated my wife's phone as well as my daughter's phone but I have not done my phone yet. Honestly, I have said for awhile that I want a Nexus Phone, and since the phone is almost half the cost of the HTC One it helps saving money to be able to get a Nexus 5 when it comes out.
Now here are my questions and hoping you all could help guide me: With Google I/O starting tomorrow should I get the phone now or wait to see what is announced at Google I/O (Though it sounds like the Nexus 5 won't be announced until October / November)? I ordered these phones via phone so can I return this HTC to the T-Mobile store? And since I want to return this and I they already requested my phone number to be transferred should I get the Nexus 4 from T-Mobile or order from Google Play (I have NO IDEA why the same phone is $130 more on T-Mobile but I will look that one up).
Any advice would be very helpful! Thanks!
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The reason why it's cheaper on the Play store because Google sells them at a loss. More precisely they don't make any profit off the phones at such a low price tag. That's why T-Mobile and perhaps some other retailers will sell them for a higher price to make a few bucks off of it.
Since all Nexus 4 are the same you might as well get one from the Play Store. If anything goes wrong, Google can get you a replacement. It's also much cheaper. It comes unlocked so feel free to use it on any GSM carrier.
I think you should wait and see what happens tomorrow at the I/O conference. It seems though a new Nexus smartphone won't be released until the very end of the year.
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scream4cheese said:
The reason why it's cheaper on the Play store because Google sells them at a loss. More precisely they don't make any profit off the phones at such a low price tag. That's why T-Mobile and perhaps some other retailers will sell them for a higher price to make a few bucks off of it.
Since all Nexus 4 are the same you might as well get one from the Play Store. If anything goes wrong, Google can get you a replacement. It's also much cheaper. It comes unlocked so feel free to use it on any GSM carrier.
I think you should wait and see what happens tomorrow at the I/O conference. It seems though a new Nexus smartphone won't be released until the very end of the year.
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Interesting... So they aren't making money selling the nexus 4? Why ate they doing it then? Is it just to win over competition?
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Interesting... So they aren't making money selling the nexus 4? Why ate they doing it then? Is it just to win over competition?
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Lol. They don't need the money. I'm not really sure why they do it. When the new Nexus 7 tablet comes out this summer they're gonna lose $5-$10 for each device sold.
Another interesting thing is that the Galaxy S4 costs about $237 to make. Buying it without a contract will cost you over $600-$700. Crazy, huh?
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They are trying to introduce more people to the play store and android experience, that's why the price is lower. Wait a day and see what happens. But if it comes down to your question about should you return HTC one for the nexus 4, I would. You'll have extra $200 to buy accessories or maybe donate some $$ to charity.
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Lol. They don't need the money. I'm not really sure why they do it. When the new Nexus 7 tablet comes out this summer they're gonna lose $5-$10 for each device sold.
Another interesting thing is that the Galaxy S4 costs about $237 to make. Buying it without a contract will cost you over $600-$700. Crazy huh?
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That is crazy... I hope they keep it up though.I hope the next nexus device will be cheap as well.
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That is crazy... I hope they keep it up though.I hope the next nexus device will be cheap as well.
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I hope so too.
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Wait until tomorrow just to see if there will be a storage bump. You can return to tmobile within 14days (30 in CA) as long as you are a new customer, for renewals tmobile no longer has a "cooling off" period so I'm not sure what the process on returns is. Buy from Google. The Samsung S4's BOM (cost of materials) is <$250 now the cost to research/market the phone I find hard to believe would come in at $500 (assuming a $750 unlocked selling price) and yet that is what they want you to believe...my point is Tmo sells the N4 for $130 more because they can and that is what people are used to paying.
http://press.ihs.com/press-release/...ries-236-bill-materials-ihs-isuppli-virtual-t
scream4cheese said:
it's cheaper on the Play store because Google sells them at a loss. More precisely they don't make any profit off the phones
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That's a contradiction and you don't actually know either way.
Thank you all so much! I am definitely waiting until tomorrow to see what Google I/O has then I guess I will return this phone and get either a revamped Nexus 4 or maybe even a fabled White Nexus 4.
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Wait until tomorrow just to see if there will be a storage bump. You can return to tmobile within 14days (30 in CA) as long as you are a new customer, for renewals tmobile no longer has a "cooling off" period so I'm not sure what the process on returns is. Buy from Google. The Samsung S4's BOM (cost of materials) is <$250 now the cost to research/market the phone I find hard to believe would come in at $500 (assuming a $750 unlocked selling price) and yet that is what they want you to believe...my point is Tmo sells the N4 for $130 more because they can and that is what people are used to paying.
http://press.ihs.com/press-release/...ries-236-bill-materials-ihs-isuppli-virtual-t
That's a contradiction and you don't actually know either way.
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I beg to differ.
http://www.knowyourmobile.com/google/18895/how-and-why-google-nexus-4-so-cheap
http://m.cnet.com/news/nexus-7-leaves-google-with-razor-thin-profit-margin/57466486?ds=1
http://bgr.com/2012/06/28/nexus-7-sales-profit-cost-google-android/
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I beg to differ.
http://www.knowyourmobile.com/google/18895/how-and-why-google-nexus-4-so-cheap
http://m.cnet.com/news/nexus-7-leaves-google-with-razor-thin-profit-margin/57466486?ds=1
http://bgr.com/2012/06/28/nexus-7-sales-profit-cost-google-android/
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No matter how you slice it....I think it is awesome for us consumers!
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I beg to differ.
http://www.knowyourmobile.com/google/18895/how-and-why-google-nexus-4-so-cheap
http://m.cnet.com/news/nexus-7-leaves-google-with-razor-thin-profit-margin/57466486?ds=1
http://bgr.com/2012/06/28/nexus-7-sales-profit-cost-google-android/
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So the first article has conjecture and rumor from "analysts". The last 2 are about the nexus 7, a different device, but also say that google is making very little money or selling at cost (which means they aren't losing money and is believable.)
None of the articles have anything to do with you contradicting yourself nor do they have any info from google concerning the cost of the device so...you still contradicted yourself and you still don't know how much money they are/aren't making.
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No matter how you slice it....I think it is awesome for us consumers!
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Yep, "we" have known for awhile that these devices only have $200-$300 worth of parts in them and google is using their size to push down prices for devs. Unfortunately it isn't doing anything for the general price of phones, in the US at least, since most people are still on contracts
Google is an advertising company at heart, everything they do is geared towards getting people online 24/7. Hardware is a loss leader
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