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HD2 HUGE BATTERY DRAIN 1% every 1 minute

Hi my hd2 is on a stock windows mobile rom and has a huge battery drain, every 1 minute or so i lose 1% of my battery and even on standby its the same.
Please can anyone help!!!! I have just flashed a stock rom from sd and have nothing on it and it still does it!

did you flash another radio rom? battery performance has a lot to do with it.
formatting your sd card could also help.

I've tried formatting my sd card and have tried flashing many radio roms right now im on the latest one (2.15...) and still it does it.

well the latest doesn't mean that it's the best for you. it depends on your carrier and area. but this wouldn't result in such a high battery drain.
sorry i can't help you then. i would try to make a freash install with task 29 and everything and if it's still not better try another battery.

Ive tried everything..no one knows anything about it
Thanks anyways
Would appreciate if anyone else has this problem too?

Sounds more like your battery is on the way out. Do you have another you could test?

Yupp, i have 3 standard htc batterys and 2 of them are brand new and still it happens

You did not say how long you have had the HD2, whether this problem has occurred from the beginning, or had just recently started. If it's been that way from the time you got it, it needs to go back to the vendor/seller for replacement. If it has suddenly started, what has changed? Other recent threads here note that a change in GMail was causing problems with high CPU levels and fast battery drain. I believe you said in one response that two of your three batteries have this problem. I assume that one of the batteries does not. If so, it sounds like bad batteries.

Sorry i meant to say that every battery that i try, it still has the problem. And also i brought this phone (used) with no problems and i put android on it, one day it turned extremely hot whilst i put it on charge, then what used to happen was whenever i left my phone on standby (screen off) my phone would switch off. But then i changed my charger cable and that problem was fixed but now i have this problem.

In that case could be the cable not supplying enough charge to the battery, or the phone reading battery stats incorrectly. Other than that I'm at a loss.

Tried everything :/
Thanks anyways I guess its just time for the bin :/

emadul said:
Tried everything :/
Thanks anyways I guess its just time for the bin :/
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Are you using Gmail? There have been a lot of reports about overheating and battery drain from gmail accounts. Evidently there was some change in the way Google handles their accounts.

Nope, not using gmail
theres nothing on my rom as i just flashed it.

if you flashed it new and the problems started at this point you can try to wipe the battery stats in cwm. don't really now what exactly that does but it's worth a try.

rauschkugl said:
if you flashed it new and the problems started at this point you can try to wipe the battery stats in cwm. don't really now what exactly that does but it's worth a try.
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thats providing hes running it and not using a stock winmo 6.5 rom

Yeah, im using a stock windowsmobile rom so no clockworkmod unfortunately..

oh right. there was something with windows on this phone ^^ sorry already forgot that.

Hi, did you try the following?
Switch off the phone completely and then remove the battery for approx. 15 to 20 seconds. Then put it in again and start the phone.
When I used this procedure the battery drain was normal again.
BR rainer

tried that still no luck :/

Take out the sim AND sd card. Maybe one of them is going bad.

[Q] Android system drain after factory reset.

I'm starting to think the goodness of the Note 3 battery is becoming a joke. What I did was clear my cache partition and did a factory reset after from the recovery menu. I have not installed any other apps yet. I just set up dropbox, play books, email, etc. Normal things for normal use.
I did a reset because my battery was draining before and I thought a reset could resolve it. I need to ask for solutions as this is really giving me a headache.
Don't ask if I have turned off this or that, most probably I did as I read from multiple threads. Those threads are only guessing or otherwise throwing the OP in a loop for the search of answers.
Xda, I need your help to figure out how to SOLVE this stupid drain.
Note on the screenshot: I took that screen after 30 mins after plugging it out. It drained 2% while I was doing absolutely nothing but stare at the Android System bar graph go higher. Its like a plague for the damn phone.
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I installed BBS and here are screenshots of the partial and kernel wakelock. Is this normal though? This happened while I was sleeping overnight and I have not installed any apps other than BBS. This is how my stats were before and my battery is draining fast especially when I'm using my phone.
Thing is, I have set all measures possible to extend battery life non rooted and it goes down by the minute of light use.

Pokkle said:
I'm starting to think the goodness of the Note 3 battery is becoming a joke. What I did was clear my cache partition and did a factory reset after from the recovery menu. I have not installed any other apps yet. I just set up dropbox, play books, email, etc. Normal things for normal use.
I did a reset because my battery was draining before and I thought a reset could resolve it. I need to ask for solutions as this is really giving me a headache.
Don't ask if I have turned off this or that, most probably I did as I read from multiple threads. Those threads are only guessing or otherwise throwing the OP in a loop for the search of answers.
Xda, I need your help to figure out how to SOLVE this stupid drain.
Note on the screenshot: I took that screen after 30 mins after plugging it out. It drained 2% while I was doing absolutely nothing but stare at the Android System bar graph go higher. Its like a plague for the damn phone.
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at least should mentioned ur model n900 or n9005!?
anyway i did this for my N900 after i got battery draining once and it solve problem;
when it discharge to ~15% turn it off and connect it to charger and let it charging 100%
it can help battery to charge without using it at same time
i mentioned it before several times (in another threads) it s like re-gauging battery.
another thing u can do is flashing another stock firmware
but search for the more stable firmware.
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Sorry! I have the SM-N9005. Bought from the Philippines (Smart carrier)

Pokkle said:
I'm starting to think the goodness of the Note 3 battery is becoming a joke. What I did was clear my cache partition and did a factory reset after from the recovery menu. I have not installed any other apps yet. I just set up dropbox, play books, email, etc. Normal things for normal use.
I did a reset because my battery was draining before and I thought a reset could resolve it. I need to ask for solutions as this is really giving me a headache.
Don't ask if I have turned off this or that, most probably I did as I read from multiple threads. Those threads are only guessing or otherwise throwing the OP in a loop for the search of answers.
Xda, I need your help to figure out how to SOLVE this stupid drain.
Note on the screenshot: I took that screen after 30 mins after plugging it out. It drained 2% while I was doing absolutely nothing but stare at the Android System bar graph go higher. Its like a plague for the damn phone.
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The joys of Android!
Wakelock detector and BetterBatteryStats are your best friend in regards to stuff like that. - Usually it's Alarmmanager or something similar that causes it. What generally fixed it for me was switching ROMS

radicalisto said:
The joys of Android!
Wakelock detector and BetterBatteryStats are your best friend in regards to stuff like that. - Usually it's Alarmmanager or something similar that causes it. What generally fixed it for me was switching ROMS
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The joys Android bring me alright...
I downloaded bbs and will check after I wake up!
*rooting, switching roms and other watchamacallit are out of my comfort zone atm. I am trying to read about them alright but idk, I just don't get it lol. The Note 3 is my first Android/smartphone coming from the olden mobile phone days.

Pokkle said:
Sorry! I have the SM-N9005. Bought from the Philippines (Smart carrier)
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Do you also have a microSD or a large amount of custom files in your (internal or external) memory? Since when you do factory-reset you also clear all the preliminary indexes and caches that the system created, and it will work pretty hard to re-index all that after first reboot!

Ahh wise not messing if out of your comfort zone then, sensible guy.
However, have a good read around, you'll find after some heavy duty reading you'll probably feel alright in maybe trying rooting and debloating some apps etc. But then again, you might not. That is one of the best things about Android, you can play around to suit your needs whether novice or pro.
Also, if you do fancy rooting and need help you can post here, or you can just shoot me a PM I'll help you over the first hurdle at least if you want :good:

xclub_101 said:
Do you also have a microSD or a large amount of custom files in your (internal or external) memory? Since when you do factory-reset you also clear all the preliminary indexes and caches that the system created, and it will work pretty hard to re-index all that after first reboot!
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No, I don't have an SD card inserted. This is my second reboot since trying to solve the problem.

[q](STUCK) MULTIPLE ISSUES

Hey guys.
there are several major problems with my device.
first of all, lets see what we have here.
Exynos powered SM-N900 note 3 device
About 2 months old
rooted with CF- Auto Root
4.4.2 N900XXUDNA6_N900SERDNA6_SER firmware
that was the situation of device when the first problem showed itself.
Whiel i was watching video from an sd card, suddenly ı realised even if the device is on charge, (wall type) the battery percentage was dropping. when ı saw that, ı stopped watching the video, put down the phone and went to sleep. (it was 15 % at that time)
after 8 hours of proper sleep, I took my phone and saw that it was just 60%.
then ı began searching for slow charging issues. tried exactly everything about it, no luck. ( 5 different brands of different cables, 3 different brands of wall chargers, 2 different original note 3 batteries. tried both for AC and USB charging.)
All of them gave me the same result of charging current of 300 mah.
then ı tried all the wipe options, (wipe from recovery, factory reset from the settings menu, flashing another firmware which is CAC-N900XXUDNA8-20140210150816. ) still no luck. and things started to get worse.
a pain in the ass lag showed up, I'cant even use the camera. its like it comes and goes, but most of the time its there.
slow charging still continues, sometimes it does not charge at all,(had to reset couple of times) and when it charges, it's always 300 Mah and shows in the battery section as USB all the time ( even if I'm charging with the wall charger) ( already tried cache wipe for this, didn't make any difference.)
When I plug it to the PC, it does not recognize the device as a usb device, nor Kies, but ODİN does. (thankfully).
got this really weird screen, and some other screens close to it. (the screen actually faded away like in the picture ı uploaded. waited for it to go out for 10-15 seconds when ı pushed the wake button, the screen came itself just like nothing else happened 10 seconds ago!)
those are my problems, and the device is rooted, there is no warranty issue, so that means I'm stuck. it's not my first android device, and i consider myself just above average android user, but my hands are tied for this. any kind of help would be greatly appreciated!!

Really? No one can answer that?

rompinpumpkin said:
Really? No one can answer that?
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Did u try charging when mobile is off?if not give a try

Thanks for the reply.
Yeah I tried that. It kind of shortens the time of charging, but still, there are also other problems and some way ı think all of them are connected. That can be a solution only for slow charging, but the other issues still there.

rompinpumpkin said:
Thanks for the reply.
Yeah I tried that. It kind of shortens the time of charging, but still, there are also other problems and some way ı think all of them are connected. That can be a solution only for slow charging, but the other issues still there.
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may all your problems linked each other possible, try to uninstall third party apps you have installed, may some app is causing all the problems.

jdomadia said:
may all your problems linked each other possible, try to uninstall third party apps you have installed, may some app is causing all the problems.
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I'm afraid that is also not a solution, because i already performed a full wipe and flashed a clean firmware, which cleared all 3rd party apps, still problems go on.
appreciate the effort though!

rompinpumpkin said:
I'm afraid that is also not a solution, because i already performed a full wipe and flashed a clean firmware, which cleared all 3rd party apps, still problems go on.
appreciate the effort though!
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Read carefully & flash from below link, hop u will get your all problems sort out.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2519897

jdomadia said:
Read carefully & flash from below link, hop u will get your all problems sort out.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2519897
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are you suggesting EFS back-up /restore?
By the way, i have fresh brand new issues!!
now device doesn't close, if i close it and connect it to a charger, it reboots itself to recovery mode!!!
ı discovered something about the lag issue. if i run the cpu enough, (like playing games) lag goes out. when ı quit the game, it turns back!!
I opened up cpu monitor from the developer options, everytime lag shows up, i see from the cpu list this thing:
irq/563-sii8240
I think this causes all of my problems.
any ideas???

rompinpumpkin said:
are you suggesting EFS back-up /restore?
By the way, i have fresh brand new issues!!
now device doesn't close, if i close it and connect it to a charger, it reboots itself to recovery mode!!!
ı discovered something about the lag issue. if i run the cpu enough, (like playing games) lag goes out. when ı quit the game, it turns back!!
I opened up cpu monitor from the developer options, everytime lag shows up, i see from the cpu list this thing:
irq/563-sii8240
I think this causes all of my problems.
any ideas???
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EFS backup is very IMPORTANT, no Idea about what u say about CPU

jdomadia said:
Read carefully & flash from below link, hop u will get your all problems sort out.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2519897
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jdomadia said:
EFS backup is very IMPORTANT, no Idea about what u say about CPU
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I know the importance of the EFS, just couldn't figure out the relevance.

rompinpumpkin said:
I know the importance of the EFS, just couldn't figure out the relevance.
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It looks like a problem with a interrupt of the video driver. I read you already flashed a other firmware, correct?

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Have you installed any apps to monitor battery drain? I use GSAM Battery Monitor and every time I start to see weird things with my battery, I have a look to see which app is running wild. Removing the app usually sets my phone back to very good battery life. The other day HD Widgets updated their app and all of a sudden I was dropping battery life about 15% per hour when hardly using the phone. HD was the culprit, removing it put me back to normal again. This happens often when companies update their apps.
One other thing, does you phone run hot? In the notification screen, you can see the current temp of your phone. If your battery is draining fast, it will run hot.

Thank you for the feedback. I downloaded the app, here are my first results. Do you think its normal that my kernel alone 74% ? I recently turned into cvm recovery, any ideas for alternative kernels?
SM-N900 cihazımdan Tapatalk kullanılarak gönderildi

Battery problem after installing LOS

After many weeks of hesitation I finally took the plunge, unlocked my bootloader (using DrakenFX's guide) and installed LineageOS. The process went smoothly except for the part where my battery is now hosed.
Basically, regardless of how much charge the battery has, the phone doesn't seem to read the level accurately. It doesn't matter whether the phone is turned off (while showing the battery symbol/charging indicator), in recovery mode, or booted to the OS. It might at one moment read 63%, then 1% the next. The interesting thing is that when I boot the phone to TWRP with a fully charged battery, disable the screen timeout and crank the brightness to 100%, it will take 3 days for the battery to discharge even if TWRP is reporting 1% battery, as if TWRP reads the battery as being full regardless of the level it's reporting.
However, if I boot to the OS with a fully charged battery, the OS will read 63% at first (it's always 63%), then within a few seconds will drop to 1% and the phone will shut down (every time). So far I've tried battery calibration apps, draining the battery in TWRP until it shuts off, then leaving it on the charger for 6+ hours (read somewhere that's supposed to reset the battery counter) and, of course, wiping cache/dalvik cache/system/data/internal storage and re-flashing not only LOS, but several other ROMs/kernels as well. I also tried different chargers/cables/power sources, etc. Still FUBAR.
Can anyone offer any insight as to what I may have done to cause this? Is my only option at this point to re-lock the bootloader, go back to stock and send it in for warranty service? I've been dealing with this for 2 weeks now, and the phone is basically a paperweight unless plugged in. Any suggestions here would be greatly appreciated.

That really sucks. it sounds like the battery is toast. try flashing the stock rom to see what happens? Perhaps a hardware issue was happening before you did that but it didn't show until after you took the plunge. Happened to me with the HTC One m8. Had speaker issues a day or two after I unlocked the BL and I know unlocking the bl didn't cause it, so i was mad.

twilighttony said:
That really sucks. it sounds like the battery is toast. try flashing the stock rom to see what happens? Perhaps a hardware issue was happening before you did that but it didn't show until after you took the plunge. Happened to me with the HTC One m8. Had speaker issues a day or two after I unlocked the BL and I know unlocking the bl didn't cause it, so i was mad.
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The battery was great right up to the point where I wiped/flashed LOS the first time. I'm wondering if it was caused by a combination of A) the battery not being fully charged during the initial unlock/wipe/flash process (it might actually have been at 63%, but it was plugged in) and B) having wiped cache/dalvik cache/system/data/internal storage before the first install.
Going back to stock is my next step. I've been avoiding it because, for one, I don't think it's gonna fix the problem, and two, even if it does fix the problem I'm back to dealing with ZTE's maddening software, which is what drove me to LOS in the first place. Sigh...

n00bsville0123 said:
The battery was great right up to the point where I wiped/flashed LOS the first time. I'm wondering if it was caused by a combination of A) the battery not being fully charged during the initial unlock/wipe/flash process (it might actually have been at 63%, but it was plugged in) and B) having wiped cache/dalvik cache/system/data/internal storage before the first install.
Going back to stock is my next step. I've been avoiding it because, for one, I don't think it's gonna fix the problem, and two, even if it does fix the problem I'm back to dealing with ZTE's maddening software, which is what drove me to LOS in the first place. Sigh...
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I personally don't think installing Los caused the problem for the simple fact that battery functions are controlled by the kernel which is Linux based (doesn't seem like it correlates but hear me out) just like the los kernel, and that part wouldn't have changed too much, if at all. I think it is a hardware issue. I have seen weirder coincidences happen when doing things like this.

I'd try clean flashing LOs or RR again (a fresh download) and see if that fixes it? Maybe even a complete format to make sure all traces of the last install are gone.
Something may have gotten corrupt the first time, possibly?

tele_jas said:
I'd try clean flashing LOs or RR again (a fresh download) and see if that fixes it? Maybe even a complete format to make sure all traces of the last install are gone.
Something may have gotten corrupt the first time, possibly?
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So far I've tried 4 different ROMs and 3 different kernels, and each time I'm wiping cache/dalvik cache/system/storage/internal storage before flashing. I'm actually on RR now. I'm re-locking the bootloader and going back to stock today. I guess we'll see how good ZTE's warranty service is.

TWRP freezes in flashing - Powers off then, but no 'BLOD' (logs attached)

I was on oreo
I have backup so data not an issue thankfully.
Was using Nitrogen rom with its stock kernel but rom is not the issue since literally no one else is affected, im positive its my phone. Possibly hardware related.
Short version: As you can tell from the title. My phone is freezing randomly while flashing, or sometimes on booting it just stays at google logo. After freezing for 20 seconds and the phone getting hot, the screen goes off. It does not however bootloop.
It does not power off when the screen goes off in the normal sense either since if i attach a charger nothing shows, no battery icon, but i know it charges because then if i go into bootloader and then twrp back again, battery is increased. but if no charger, the screen stays off and battery is not decreased, like a power off :/ what is wrong?!
Full disclosure: i had my cpu(motherboard) repaired 2 weeks ago when it just dropped dead after freezing and me trying to reboot it, which it never did.(that was aquarius rom)
After repair i flashed nitrogen and all went fine until it happened yesterday too but thankfully i could access bootloader and occasionaly twrp. i somehow (after the 100th time of it finally not freezing in flashing or splash screen) managed to clean flash my rom again and it booted.
All went good for a day then suddenly it froze today and when i hard rebooted it, it never went past the google logo again, and screen turns off, which is where i am now. But now i can access twrp most of the time without it freezing now.
What ive done so far: Since this time it actually opens twrp 90% of the time unlike yesterday and freezes only few times, ive managed to flash a few different rom versions and even tried going back to nougat. ALL leading to -> Google logo 20 seconds, screen off.
I'm in the process of downloading factory images and OTAs, which will take 6 hours since i have a slow connection. but i dont know which i should flash (ill be using Heisenbergs guide). Which is a better option at succeding?
what i think is wrong: probably the flashing takes a toll on the cpu and it just freezes n gets hot n shuts off. NO bootloop. Ive attached logs from ''copy log'' option in twrp, i dont know if that will help.
Can it be a hardware issue? Anything else i can do besides factory images/OTA? Should i look into disabling my big cores?
I'd highly appreciate some technical expertise and advice as to how i should procees from now.
Thank u for taking the time to read it!

Lord. Tech said:
.... Can it be a hardware issue? Anything else i can do besides factory images/OTA? Should i look into disabling my big cores? I'd highly appreciate some technical expertise and advice as to how i should procees from now. Thank u for taking the time to read it!
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Probably a hardware issue related to the motherboard, but you should treat it as a bootloop and follow the workaround you mentioned. If that solves your issue then you will know it is hardware for sure. I guess you don't have a warranty on the motherboard because you didn't mention that route. If you do get it running on small cores, run Accubattery (if you haven't already) and get an estimate of remaining capacity of the battery. If you do send it back for 2nd repair, replace the battery at the same time. Why not? It's only $20 and there would be no labor.

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Probably a hardware issue related to the motherboard, but you should treat it as a bootloop and follow the workaround you mentioned. If that solves your issue then you will know it is hardware for sure. I guess you don't have a warranty on the motherboard because you didn't mention that route. If you do get it running on small cores, run Accubattery (if you haven't already) and get an estimate of remaining capacity of the battery. If you do send it back for 2nd repair, replace the battery at the same time. Why not? It's only $20 and there would be no labor.
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Yes im out of warranty sadly. Im going to try flashing stock images, if that doesnt work then will look into turning off my big cores. Any advice on if full OTA images would be better than flashing Factory images?
i agree, i shoulve gotten it replaced the first time i had it fixed, regretted that as soon as i got it back. accubattery showed 60% left, the rest seems degraded.
i really hope something works. I'm starting to get fedup of this device i loved so much n still do surprisingly! i hate that google did this to us, that too out of all the devices on the last and most anticipated 'nexus' of all time! Embarassing end to the series.

Lord. Tech said:
Yes im out of warranty sadly. Im going to try flashing stock images, if that doesnt work then will look into turning off my big cores. Any advice on if full OTA images would be better than flashing Factory images i agree, i shoulve gotten it replaced the first time i had it fixed, regretted that as soon as i got it back. accubattery showed 60% left, the rest seems degraded.
i really hope something works. I'm starting to get fedup of this device i loved so much n still do surprisingly! i hate that google did this to us, that too out of all the devices on the last and most anticipated 'nexus' of all time! Embarassing end to the series.
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Flash full images because OTA's don't contain the full partition image. Just set up fastboot on your PC and follow Google's instructions on the page you d/l the images from. Due to using several custom ROMs, I would recommend you fastboot format Boot, System and Userdata before flashing, then use Google's flash-all.bat script. Battery: at 60% your battery is beyond toast and may well be contributing to your problem. You need a new battery, period. Good luck. :good:

v12xke said:
Flash full images because OTA's don't contain the full partition image. Just set up fastboot on your PC and follow Google's instructions on the page you d/l the images from. Due to using several custom ROMs, I would recommend you fastboot format Boot, System and Userdata before flashing, then use Google's flash-all.bat script. Battery: at 60% your battery is beyond toast and may well be contributing to your problem. You need a new battery, period. Good luck. :good:
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Thank u for the how-to advice! i was a little confused with the particulars, Glad u cleared it up for me. The images are still downloading, damn the slow connection, so it'll be while before i know if it works, i'll update with the results soon.
Yes, ur spot on. i barely got 2.5 hours SOT, usually just 1.5 hours! if i can get my phone running again, im ordering a battery tomorrow as well!

Lord. Tech said:
Thank u for the how-to advice! i was a little confused with the particulars, Glad u cleared it up for me. The images are still downloading, damn the slow connection, so it'll be while before i know if it works, i'll update with the results soon. Yes, ur spot on. i barely got 2.5 hours SOT, usually just 1.5 hours! if i can get my phone running again, im ordering a battery tomorrow as well!
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Just be sure you're clear on fastboot formatting Boot, System and Userdata. Make sure they all finish without errors. If any errors, capture the text. Important. Problem with the battery (for you) is getting a quality one. Lots of junk out there and you are located in BFE.
fastboot format boot
fastboot format system
fastboot format userdata

v12xke said:
Just be sure you're clear on fastboot formatting Boot, System and Userdata. Make sure they all finish without errors. If any errors, capture the text. Important. Problem with the battery (for you) is getting a quality one. Lots of junk out there and you are located in BFE.
fastboot format boot
fastboot format system
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LOL i agree, cant even get a decent internet connection out here let alone battery spare parts to a back-closed phone 95% people haven't even heard of, including the 3 repair shops i took it to the first time!! i had to google it and show them pics and videos on how to open it imagine. But since it was dead weight at the time, that botched joke surgery of my phone was still my best hope haha.
well, in other news, nothing worked i guess the phone is toast now. it just keeps freezing no matter what, stock images, 4 cores off, modified boot.img, everything. I got it in Pheonix Arizona from best buy 2 years ago when they had the 50$ off on the gold version. so cant even freaking RMA it to google! Gonna send it in for repair as a last resort, though i dont know what they can do at this point, repair cpu?
Maybe i should start looking into replacements perhaps the OP3T.... damn this is depressing.
Thanks for the help, i guess u win some, u lose some...