[Q] Slower to start? (10-15s Power button hold to boot up) - Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Since i flashed TWRP "2.3.1.1 grouper" for my Nexus 7, on the Recovery partition (for some reasons it didn't had a Recovery software installed anymore), it seem like i have to hold the Power button for 10-15 seconds before the Google logo show up on the screen. Before that, i only had to hold Power button for about 2-3 seconds (default Power button holding time).
At first i was freaking out, thinking i corrupted something by flashing this and the device just refused to boot up. But then i thought "let's see if the tablet boot up if i hold the Power button long enough"
Why is it doing that suddenly? Is there a way i can shorten this?
infos:
-i have Glazed Jelly Bean 2.1 installed
-i used WugFresh's tools to flash TWRP, while i selected "Custom ROM - JB" in the Android version.
-i changed my boot animation using ROM Toolbox Pro (i don't think it cause the problem, as it was booting just fine before)

strange, when i enable Debugging, i just have to hold it for 3-4 seconds (normal). When Debugging is off, i have to hold it for about 15 seconds. Any idea why?
Do you always leave your Debugging feature on? it seem like it only give access to other hidden folders you wouldn't see normally, on your PC.

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rebooting loop help! (upgrading)

Im trying to flash a new ROM but cannot seem to enter recovery mode:
I had revolver 3.6 and wanted to upgrade to the latest, so I held down power and selected recovery, now its in some type of rebooting cycle where it tries to boot up with the "Eee Pad" in the center and the "ASUS/NVidia" at the bottom, this stays on for about 3 secs then it appears to power off and the cycle starts again.
Holding down just the power button seems to do nothing, but if I hold power+volUP for a few seconds it seems to make it power off for good. From this powered down state, pwr or pwr+volUP does nothing. From this powered down state pwr+volDown brings up the boot screen + the small white letters in the upper right saying to hit volUp within 5 secs to enter RCK but if you do this then you get the reboot loop all over. If you let it sit there Itll allow you to either coldboot or eraseuserdata+cold boot. This allows the tablet to boot up normally.
But I just can never seem to boot to recovery. I have revolver parts and the reboot2recovery and the recoveryinstaller.apk all installed. What am I missing?
What about cwm? Sounds like you still on stock recovery.
How did you root? And how did you flash recovery? Were you ever able to get into recovery?
My gut tells me your recovery isn't compatible with your bootloader and/or boot.img.
Thanks for the help. I don't think i loaded cwwm when i originnally rooted. I reded rooting and it put cwm5 on.

Stuck on Google logo boot screen -- Bricked??

I unlocked the bootloader and flashed a custom recovery. I then rebooted the device. Now it is stuck at the bootloader (white Google logo on black background) and I can't get it to do anything else. I've rebooted it a bunch of times including with the vol + and vol - buttons held down to no avail. I've also let the battery run out and then tried to boot it up again and the same thing happens. adb nor fastboot see the device and it doesn't show up in the logs on my machine (Mint 13) as coming online at any time.
Most of the times I reboot it with the power switch it reboots to the Google logo even without me letting go of the power button. Sometimes I can get it to fully power off but I haven't figured out what combination of vol keys and reboot does that.
Anyone have any ideas what could be wrong? Any help would be much appreciated!
You are not bricked if you can still get into the bootloader.
Download the factory image from here, and flash it with fastboot. If you don't know how to do that, read this thread.
I wish I could get fastboot to see it then I could definitively flash that img.
I can't get into the bootloader and can't get fastboot or adb to see it. It's stuck at the Google logo now and when i hold the power key it reboots back to the Google logo with the unlock logo at the bottom.
Thanks for the help
You've tried holding volume down+power for 10+ seconds? That should power off the device, then hold both vol up+down down and power up
Ya I've tried to hold vol + and power for 10+ seconds and it reboots back to the Google logo even if I don't off the power key. Same happens with all the other combinations of keys being held with the power button. I can't get it to turn off now unless I let the battery die
Press and hold power till screen goes black. Then quickly press power+volume down and HOLD.
Sent from my Nexus 7
Tried that and still stuck at the Google logo. I have to go to work for a couple hours and then will hack on it when I'm back. Hope I don't have to deal with Googles rma process seeing how disorganized the rest of that company is
Sent from my HTC one s
No luck with any button combos but the vol + and power actually turned it off. All out of ideas over here. I'm thinking it really is bricked
I'm in the same spot. I can get it into recovery occasionally but once there it locks up after trying to flash or clear the cache.
I'm wondering if a contributing issue is CMR v6.0.0.6? I updated it from 6.0.0.4 that was running fine. But no fastboot or adb so that is doubtful.
This is frustrating and not a great start with this N7.
thank you
giveen said:
Press and hold power till screen goes black. Then quickly press power+volume down and HOLD.
Sent from my Nexus 7
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this worked. you have to be fast. as soon as screen goes black release power button then quickly, very quickly repress along with vol up and down.
You will still be able to get into the bootloader! Force kill the tablet by holding the power button for ages. Then hold volume up and volume down and the power button together, which will boot to fastboot.
It looks like a CWM bug as I feared. Anyone in the same boat try here - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1782932
Nothing has worked and I've literally tried everything that those three buttons can do. Thanks again for all the help guys. Had a great time trying to resurrect it but guess it's time for it to go back home
Just as I suspected. Google puts out buggy junk once again.
I just wanted to report a similarly event. I have a rooted, unlocked Nexus 7, with TWRP recovery. I have previously rebooted without issue. Tonight I booted into bootloader mode to check something and the hit power button to choose start. I got stuck on the boot logo. After finding this thread, I started with the simplest combination and held power button until screen went dark, then added volume down and once again in bootloader. This time choosing start led to a regular system boot. It's as if the device froze and needed a hard reboot.
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I was attempting to boot into recovery and kept getting the 'Google' logo (I am unlocked/rooted with twrp recovery). I wasn't aware that one had to be plugged in via usb in order to *not* hang....
Any way around this?
Once I plugged it in and attempted to boot into recovery it worked fine.
I had a similar issue after using the Nexus Root Toolkit to flash to nakasi 4.2 with CWM recovery - just got stuck on the nexus boot screen, flashing in a loop for over 15 minutes.
I ended up powering down the device, holding power for about 5-10 seconds - then QUICKLY holding both the power and volume up+down keys, it then went into the fastboot screen.
After it was there, plugged it into my PC.
Now, this should work for you - assuming you have all the fastboot/usb driver stuff installed.
I extracted the contents of nakasi-jop40c-factory-6aabb391.tgz into the same directory as the fastboot.exe provided by WugFresh with his Nexus Root Toolkit (google search or xda search for this if you dont have it, i dont think i can post links due to my low postcount) - typical filepath: C:\Program Files (x86)\WugFresh Development\data
By the files in there, I mean drilling down inside the tgz to where the image files were inside so that files like bootloader-grouper-4.13.img, image-nakasi-jop40c.zip etc were extracted into the directory and sitting alongside the fastboot.exe - NOT in a subfolder.
Once its all here, running flash-all.bat (this is provided by google in the nakasi-jop40c-factory-6aabb391.tgz) from the command line or by double clicking on it from explorer should kick off the process. After about 2-3 minutes, it was complete, and my Nexus then booted up within about 3 minutes after that.
Also worth noting, device remained unlocked, but I lost root/root binary

[Solved-Q] Must be a moron, but I just can't get vol+/power-button to CWM-R to work

This is a painful message to write, but I am desparate. This should be so simple!
Have a U8800 standard (at least it says only "U8800" in settings/about phone.
What have I done:
- Upgraded some time ago to 2.3.5 Rev B522 from Huawei.
- Then rooted it with SuperOneClick.
- Installed ClockWorkMod from Play Store.
- Downloaded CWM Recovery 5.5.0.4 stable from xda and placed the file into the /.cust-backup/image folder via Remount.
- Turned off Fast boot under settings/applications
:: What worked/happened.
- Rooting went fine, ES file explorer and others get root-permissions ok.
- But got into CWMRecovery only via CWM program (Choosing "Reboot into recovery"). Never with the holding buttons vol+ and power-button during power-on.
Figured it was that locked bootloader on B522 that was the problem.
What I did:
- Followed the instructions in http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1457490 (Get your pink screen back).
- In CWM Recovery flashed "update-B518-bootloader.zip".
- Got "ok installed or something to that effect" from CWM Recovery.
:: What worked/happened.
- Still could not get into CWMRecovery via button-holding. Tried reflashing the B518 bootloader a few times, but just no difference.
Read somewhere that each Huawei firmware-release comes with it's own bootloader, so lets try to install Huawei B518.
- Only place I could find the image was here http://huaweiideosx5.blogspot.no/2012/03/u8800-b518-23-software.html
- U8800V100R001C00B518G001.zip
- Had to take out the external SD-card to get the /sdcard/dload directory on the internal SD-card.
-Seems to be important to have dload on the internal SD-card and not the external.
- Booting the phone with vol+, vol-, power did not start the downgrade, but was able to trigger it via settings/storage/software upgrade.
After downgrade to B518 (Checked version in settings/about phone):
- Deleted /sdcard/dload directory.
- Rooted with SuperOneClick
- Installed ClockWorkMod from play store again.
- Put CWM Recovery 5.5.0.4 into ./cust_backup/image again (think this was unecessary. I think it was already there but did it anyways)
- Turned off Fast boot under settings/applications.
:: What worked/happened.
- The phone is now in B518 software, but still can not get into CWM Recovery via keypressing at boot.
I hold the vol+ and power-buttons all the way to "desktop" so to say, but can not for the life of me get into CWM Recovery that way. Getting into CWM recovery 5.5.0.4 via instructing CWM application to boot into recovery works fine, though.
I am drooling at the thought of ICS Aurora, but I don't dare before I can reliably get into CWM Recovery via keypress.
Sorry if this is very stupid post, but I have tried so much.
Maybe the volume buttons are faulty? Turn off the phone and try this: hold down volume up; while holding press power button as long as the logo comes up. Release power button but continue holding volume up. If it did not work, try doing same with volume down.
Yeah, do what Blefish advised you but do it while the phone is off and charging. I have a kinda broken power key and with this 'trick' it boots faster and more reliable. Keep holding the 3 buttons until you see the recovery.
Sent from my U8800
Thank you both for trying to help me here!
Unfortunately I have had no luck with your suggestions.
Re: Broken keys.
Power and volume-buttons seems to work well when the phone is on. Also when I boot into recovery through the CWM program, navigate to advanced/key-test, the vol+, vol- and power button seems to work well there too.
On pressing the power-button, CWM-R reports Key: 116
On pressing the vol+-button, CWM-R reports Key: 115
On pressing the vol--button, CWM-R reports Key: 114
So I think the keys must be ok, right?
Blefish: I did what you suggested, as I understood it.
When the phone boots, there are three stages of logos.
1. A static logo of Huawei's red "fan?".
2. A short "comet" animation.
3. An animated logo of Huawei's "fan", where some highlight flashes from left to right over the fan.
I hold the power-button in until I see the first static logo, then let go of the power-button and hold the volume-key(s).
Is this the same stage in the boot-process that you were thinking of?
I have tried vol+, vol- and both vol+ and vol-, together with releasing the power-button at that point.
Have not had any success with that, and ended on the "desktop" each time.
AceDroidX: I tried your suggestion as well.
I did this:
1. Shut down the telephone
2. Plugged in the power.
3. A "fan"-logo appears which is replaced by an animated battery.
4. Upon seeing the animated battery, I tried the various key-hold variants.
- vol+ and power : Ended up at desktop.
- vol- and power : Ended up at desktop.
- vol+ and vol- and power : Ended up at desktop.
So not much success either.
I am out of ideas... Can it be that B522 bootloader that still lingers in there, not replaced by installing the B518 software?
Well, idk what else to suggest.. Maybe your problem is here?
Downloaded CWM Recovery 5.5.0.4 stable from xda and placed the file into the /.cust-backup/image folder via Remount.
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I remember that when i mount my phone in linux, there was a partition with just the image folder. Some files like boot.img and recovery.img where there. Try to put the recovery image in there and see if it makes any difference.
I'd like see your versioninfo, can you upload a screenshot?
You can check mine from B528
AceDroidX: When I use Remount, I am able to mount that partition as read/write so that I can copy CWM's Recovery image in there. I think it is identical as mounting it up remotely, as you do. I am after all able to boot into CWM-Recovery, just not by key-pressing? I suppose I could boot into Linux and try to mount up the partitions as you do.
Hi kilroystyx: I can not figure out where to find a similar-looking page as the one you have in your picture.
I have the settings/about phone, if that is an older version of what you have there?
Treq01 said:
Hi kilroystyx: I can not figure out where to find a similar-looking page as the one you have in your picture.
I have the settings/about phone, if that is an older version of what you have there?
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You have to dial *#*#2846579#*#*
Off.. I completely forgot about that place!
Here are the right screenshots.
What can you see from this?
Treq01 said:
Off.. I completely forgot about that place!
Here are the right screenshots.
What can you see from this?
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Based on the screenshots your installation is fine.
Just one last shoot based on what AceDroidX says, with phone off press Vol+ and hold then connect USB cable to PC or charger and stay holding Vol+ then wait...wait and what you see?
hi all,
i'm using some ics roms and it seems ics supports natively vol++power button to take screenshots but it doesnt work for me... do you know if there are some custom ics rom where it will work?
thank you
Wow.. It is hard to believe.. but I have actually ... eventually found a way to get into that CWM-Recovery every time.
It is a combination of your suggestions.
I have been doing variations, trying to figure something out and eventually there is a method.
What I must do, on this phone, in order to get into CWM-R is this:
1. If the charging cable is in, then unplug first.
2. Turn the phone off.
3. Take out the battery and put it back in.
- This makes a difference on my phone, at least. I am not able to get into CWM-R wihtout taking the battery out first.
4. Press and hold Vol+
5. With Vol+ being pressed continously, insert the charging-cable.
6. Wait for the Fan-animation to finish and the "battery-charging" animation to start.
7. When the battery-charging animation is running and the screen eventually goes black, keep holding the Vol+ button for some time.
- Sometimes it works to keep holding the Vol+ button for only a second or two. Sometimes I must hold it up to 30 seconds.
7. Press and hold the power-button in addition to the Vol+
8. Wait for CWM-Recovery to start.
Thank you very much for your help.
Now I think I can try for ICS!
imsonica said:
hi all,
i'm using some ics roms and it seems ics supports natively vol++power button to take screenshots but it doesnt work for me... do you know if there are some custom ics rom where it will work?
thank you
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Try Vol- and Power ON

[Q] PowerON + VolUP + VolDown does not work on my N7 3G

If powered off, pressing together PowerON + VolUP + VolDown does not power on my N7 3G to bootloader. It gives no response.
After releasing this combination, I have to long press PowerON to power on the N7 3G, as it cannot power on properly.
However, PowerON + VolDown does work, this combination boots my N7 3G to bootloader. It is strange...
Also, after flashing recovery, I tried to make it permanent by
Code:
mv recovery-from-boot.p recovery-from-boot.bak
However, it said "no such files".
I tried to "ls" and could not find anything like "recovery-from-boot.p" and "recovery-from-boot.bak"
But the recovery does stick...not sure why
(I used recovery-CWM-touch-6.0.2.3-tilapia.img)
human-being said:
If powered off, pressing together PowerON + VolUP + VolDown does not power on my N7 3G to bootloader. It gives no response.
After releasing this combination, I have to long press PowerON to power on the N7 3G, as it cannot power on properly.
However, PowerON + VolDown does work, this combination boots my N7 3G to bootloader. It is strange...
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AFAIK, there is no such button combination Pwr+Vup+Vdwn.
What is happening is that you are putting the tablet into APX mode with Pwr+Vup
Once it goes into APX mode, it takes 13 sec of holding Pwr down continuously to cause a reset to occur. It takes another 3-5 seconds after this before the bootloader splash screen shows up.
If you continue to hold down the power button, and press Vdwn within 1 second (be ready for it!) of the bootloader splash screen (B&W Google logo in center of screen + unlocked padlock image at bottom if the bootloader is unlocked) appearing on the screen, the tablet will go to fastboot mode.
If you miss that short-lived opportunity the bootloader will attempt to boot the image in the boot partition (LNX); which is to say: a normal OS boot.
In general you can always force a reboot by holding the power button down long enough (no matter what mode the tablet is in!) - and if you have Pwr+Vdwn pressed within one second of that bootloader splash screen appearing, the bootloader will go into fastboot mode rather than attempting a normal boot.
[REF] Nexus 7 Button Combinations
bftb0 said:
AFAIK, there is no such button combination Pwr+Vup+Vdwn.
What is happening is that you are putting the tablet into APX mode with Pwr+Vup
Once it goes into APX mode, it takes 13 sec of holding Pwr down continuously to cause a reset to occur. It takes another 3-5 seconds after this before the bootloader splash screen shows up.
If you continue to hold down the power button, and press Vdwn within 1 second (be ready for it!) of the bootloader splash screen (B&W Google logo in center of screen + unlocked padlock image at bottom if the bootloader is unlocked) appearing on the screen, the tablet will go to fastboot mode.
If you miss that short-lived opportunity the bootloader will attempt to boot the image in the boot partition (LNX); which is to say: a normal OS boot.
In general you can always force a reboot by holding the power button down long enough (no matter what mode the tablet is in!) - and if you have Pwr+Vdwn pressed within one second of that bootloader splash screen appearing, the bootloader will go into fastboot mode rather than attempting a normal boot.
[REF] Nexus 7 Button Combinations
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Thanks for point this out.
It is strange that many tutorials which I read are having instructions saying this combination can bring your N7 to bootloader. That's why I got confused.

N7 (tilapia) stuck at logo - no fastboot access ...

Hello everybody,
I hope somebody can help me to save my N7 (2012).
I installed TWRP without problems and after that I tried to flash a custom rom - which, for some reasons, didn't work.
After reboot my Nexus is stuck at Google logo with an opened lock at bottom...
I can't get to fastboot because when I power on while pushing VOL - button it just get stuck at the same logo screen.
If I keep power button pressed for about 10s, it shuts down but after a few seconds it boots again just to get stuck again at the logo screen...
The only way to shut it down completely is to keep VOL+ button pressed while pressing the power button.
My Windows 7 computer won't recognize the N7 at all anymore, but when I shut it down completely (Power & VOL+), windows says "Unknown device".
Is my Nexus still to be saved or I can throw it away?
Thank you in advance for each advice.
Conrad
Conrad-007 said:
Hello everybody,
I hope somebody can help me to save my N7 (2012).
I installed TWRP without problems and after that I tried to flash a custom rom - which, for some reasons, didn't work.
After reboot my Nexus is stuck at Google logo with an opened lock at bottom...
I can't get to fastboot because when I power on while pushing VOL - button it just get stuck at the same logo screen.
If I keep power button pressed for about 10s, it shuts down but after a few seconds it boots again just to get stuck again at the logo screen...
The only way to shut it down completely is to keep VOL+ button pressed while pressing the power button.
My Windows 7 computer won't recognize the N7 at all anymore, but when I shut it down completely (Power & VOL+), windows says "Unknown device".
Is my Nexus still to be saved or I can throw it away?
Thank you in advance for each advice.
Conrad
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Hi, Conrad-007...
This is very strange - your Nexus 7 is clearly 'bootable' (sort of), with a functioning bootloader, ie., it's not hardbricked... or you wouldn't be seeing the Google logo.
In the distant past, back when I used to experiment with custom kernels on my Nexus 7, it sometimes required the POWER BUTTON+VOL DOWN buttons be pressed and held down for a good 30 seconds or more, to generate the necessary 'interrupt', and force the device into the bootloader.
My first instinct, is to suggest you may possibly have a problem with your VOL DOWN button, and maybe it's stuck somehow or not making contact.
It also occurred to me, that you might be able to access the bootloader with...
Code:
adb reboot bootloader
...or possibly...
Code:
adb reboot fastboot
...and even...
Code:
adb reboot recovery
But unfortunately, I'm pretty sure you need to be running fully booted Android or booted into a custom recovery (eg., TWRP) before you can issue ADB commands. I haven't tinkered around in this area of Android for a couple of years now, so my memory of the specifics is a little hazy.
Anyhow, here's a fairly comprehensive listing of Nexus 7 button presses/interrupts, which maybe of some use...
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=37606945#post37606945
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Anyway, just some thoughts that might give you some clues/ideas, that may resolve your problem.
Good luck, and I hope you find something that works.
Rgrds,
Ged.
Thanks Ged for the detailed answer.
Unfortunately it seems that my Nexus is not booting complete (not finishing the booting sequence due to corrupted bootloader?) and so I cannot send to it any adb or fastboot command...
I read in the meantime that holding the VOL up button while powering up the Nexus, it will bring it in the APX mode (whatever this mean) and indeed, my computer recognize it as "APX" device.
I hope at least that this is a good sign and a first step to bring my Nexus back to life... but I have no idea what is the APX mode and what can I do in this mode to attempt to save my device...
Do you (or somebody else) have (has) an advice or tutorial for me concerning this?
Regards,
Conrad
Hi Conrad.
I'm in exactly the same situation (I've mistakenly posted a duplicate thread here https://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-7/general/bricked-tilapia-t4005149). Let's continue here. So:
1. I spent 4 hours trying all possible button press combinations, including VERY long presses. I didn't notice any APX device or Uknown device connected to Windows. I might have missed it, you gave me hope. I will check again.
2. APX mode enables low level access to the chipset via nVidia tool nvflash. You probably came accross these threads here on xda:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-7/general/tutorial-how-to-unbrick-nexus-7-using-t3342364
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2564615
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2455927
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2340237
I haven't so far, as I was not aware of the visibilty of the tablet in Windows. I will check again.
Well, I must have been blind not to have seen all the posts here on xda and everywhere else. I went through the threads and now I know:
1. I can see the tablet in APX mode in Windows. Possibly I could correctly set up the driver.
2. This would be totally useless, since I hadn't backed up necessary blob.
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