Sorry to create a thread, but I was hoping for someone how knows Android well to help me out.
A brief description on my phone history: iPhone 3G, iPhone 4, Galaxy Note, return to iPhone 4 and now iPhone 5.
Upgrade from iPhone 3 to 4 was simple, contract ran out, got a new phone. With the Galaxy Note, I opened a new contract with a fair amount of time remaining on my iPhone contract. However I sold my Note after just 2 months with it. I had some battery issues, performance issues and I did not like the Touch Wizz UI and I did not want to root/flash (Not sure on which one) it. So I went back to my iPhone 4, however I like the look of "stock Android".
iPhone 5 comes out, still paying for the contract I took out for the Galaxy Note (£21.50 Bargain), so I brought the iPhone 5 directly from Apple and am now using that contract on my iPhone 5. My iPhone 4 contract has now ran out. So I have an iPhone 5 on a £21.50 a month contract.
So now that is out of the way, here is my problem (well it's not really). I can sell my iPhone 5 for more than what I paid for it, since there is a shortage at the moment (Well I presume that is why) and ever since the Nexus 7 I have wanted to grab a Nexus device. And now the Nexus 4 has been announced for such a bargain price I am considering giving it a go. Main reason I want to get rid of the iPhone is because I'm a little bored with iOS.
However I had that last time when I got the Galaxy Note, but didn't get on with it. But I always had the option to go back to iOS as I had my iPhone 4. And I can't afford to buy the Nexus 4 without selling the iPhone.
My current setup is very much Apple. I have an iMac and MacBook Air, which does all sync very nicely together with my phone. So my first question is, can Android be connected easily to OSX Mountain Lion? As I couldn't get it to work with my Note when I had that.
I have heard a number of complaints about the Nexus 4, from Android users. The "not enough space" and "can't access battery", well I'm used to that anyway and doesn't bother me. 16GB is easily enough for a phone in my opinion. But I have also heard of over heating issues and relatively poor build quality, which worries me a little.
I know the device being tested may not be final version, but it could also be. On paper, the phone sounds great. But after reading my post I hope someone can help me make a decision. Please no fanboy like posts, I know everyone likes to, but that doesn't help me make my mind up, if anything it makes me want an Android less.
All I want is something that is reliable and does the main things in an easy way. I have never had any major problems with iOS, a few gripes here and there. But it has become stale. My last experience with Android was horrible, but it may have just been the phone. Played on my friends S3 the other day and I enjoyed it. However I want stock Android/ Google Nexus is I am to jump in again.
Thanks,
Craig
Afaik you can sync your android device with your iPhone, although you need an app, i think one that works is airsync.
Couldnt you sell the iPhone 4 to get money for the N4 and if you dont like it sell it?
-xLychee
Edit: I think this is the wrong place to ask.
I may have missed it, so forgive me if I did. But if I understand you correctly, you still have your iPhone 4 laying around in addition to the iPhone 5 you just upgraded to, right?
If that's the case, and you really want to try the Nexus 4 but need to sell the iPhone to fund the purchase, I'd keep the iPhone 5, sell the iPhone 4 and use the money from the sell of the iPhone 4 towards paying for the Nexus 4. I know you won't get enough to cover the entire purchase, but it will help offset the cost a bit.
Or, you could sell the iPhone 5, keep the iPhone 4 as a backup (in case you weren't in love with the Nexus 4), and not only pay for the Nexus 4, but actually make a profit on it.
If you no longer have the iPhone 4 (if I missed that you sold it or got rid of it), the my apologies and please disregard my advice. :good:
I seriously was thinking of getting iphone5, for camera and music quality. Convinced myself to cough up the bucks for 32GB, $100 for cables, etc. The deal killer was keyboards. Giving up my (highly tuned) Swiftkey would be like giving up my computer mouse. And there is nothing comparable on iphone. Actually having to spell out words again... no way. I guess if someone has never had a mouse, they might not miss one.
I am going to get a Nexus 4. Biggest hesitation is giving up my 32GB SD card, but I can manage. LTE does not matter to me, on wifi 98% of time anyway. Have been planning to switch to Straight Talk regardless, which is AT&T or Tmobile HSPA+.
You might find this interesting -- compares Android to iOS.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4721lNCuteQ
All I want is something that is reliable and does the main things in an easy way
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My current setup is very much Apple. I have an iMac and MacBook Air, which does all sync very nicely together with my phone
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I did not want to root/flash (Not sure on which one) it
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To be honest, it sounds to me like you better keep your iphone 5 unless you're prepared to change your mentality. iOS is easier than Android, iOS is meant for the people that just want their phone to do it's job, Android, and especially the nexus line, is made for power users, people that like and want to tweak the phone. If you have no intention to root, you're missing the point of the whole thing IMO. I'm not sure there are too many people around with unrooted nexus phones.
That said, you mentioned that you're bored with iOS. That's a good start
Stock JB is still pure awesome. You don't have to root your phone to have a much better OS compared to iOS.
That is a over simplification of it.
Yes many nexus users are hardcore nerds or fools that think they are . All you had to do over the years was read the general and q&a forums for the nexus devices.
There is also a decent amount of people that simply want a decent quality unlocked phone. No contracts. No carrier bs. Something that the rest of the world is used to but not in the States. Then add in stock android and fast updates.
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I may have missed it, so forgive me if I did. But if I understand you correctly, you still have your iPhone 4 laying around in addition to the iPhone 5 you just upgraded to, right?
If that's the case, and you really want to try the Nexus 4 but need to sell the iPhone to fund the purchase, I'd keep the iPhone 5, sell the iPhone 4 and use the money from the sell of the iPhone 4 towards paying for the Nexus 4. I know you won't get enough to cover the entire purchase, but it will help offset the cost a bit.
Or, you could sell the iPhone 5, keep the iPhone 4 as a backup (in case you weren't in love with the Nexus 4), and not only pay for the Nexus 4, but actually make a profit on it.
If you no longer have the iPhone 4 (if I missed that you sold it or got rid of it), the my apologies and please disregard my advice. :good:
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I still have the iPhone 4. Will get about half the price for the 16GB Nexus 4. So might not be too difficult to find the funds. I can't keep the iPhone 4 though as it is not unlocked and is on a different network. But thanks for the suggestion
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To be honest, it sounds to me like you better keep your iphone 5 unless you're prepared to change your mentality. iOS is easier than Android, iOS is meant for the people that just want their phone to do it's job, Android, and especially the nexus line, is made for power users, people that like and want to tweak the phone. If you have no intention to root, you're missing the point of the whole thing IMO. I'm not sure there are too many people around with unrooted nexus phones.
That said, you mentioned that you're bored with iOS. That's a good start
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See I thought the idea to get stock android was so you could use Android the way the developer intended? Like I said I didn't like Touch Whizz when I used it, even on the S3 that was my biggest issue when using it. I don't like the HTC one (Can't remember what it is called), but I do like the look of stock.
I've seen a number of people with Rooted devices, but honestly (I know it's down to preference) most of the ones I've seen being used look ugly.
But you're saying that there is no point getting a Nexus device and not root it?
And the video ( well not the video itself ) pisses me off. First it is not even that users video. He just stole somebody's video and put nexus 4 in the title. Do not watch and support that garbage. Find the original source if you're interested.
Over 56% off people that switch OS from the original one they initiated their "smart phone" (Oxymoron for IOS) experience on, ended up going back to their original OS.
Stay with what you know and are comfortable with, or you'll more than likely contribute to that 56% going even higher lol
Thanks for all the replies. I think I will probably sell my iPhone 4 and attempt to fund it. Leaving my iPhone 5 as back up. But then thats a damn expensive back up. hmm, maybe need to decide a little more.
But the info provided has been good. Any more news of a couple of the faults that have been reported?
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Over 56% off people that switch OS from the original one they initiated their "smart phone" (Oxymoron for IOS) experience on, ended up going back to their original OS.
Stay with what you know and are comfortable with, or you'll more than likely contribute to that 56% going even higher lol
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True story. I had a friend that switched his 4S for his girlfriends GNex. He absolutely loved Android, but his GF hated iOS. They ended up switching back because his girlfriend threatened his life. I think many people can live simultaneously with Android and iOS. I have a few friends with a mixture of them.
Can't really tell of faults yet because not many people have the device. You could sell your 4 and buy the nexus. If you don't like it after 15 days return it. Or if you find you prefer it sell the 5. I have the 5 now and plan on keeping both.
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See, your bigger concern about the device being rooted is that the ones you saw looked ugly when in fact, being rooted has 0 to do with the phone's look. I'm really not trying to make you look stupid, I understand that most of the people doesn't want nor need to know about any of this. And those are the kind of people that would value iOS over Android. My opinion, if you have the money to do so, give the Nexus a try, but I don't expect you to like it over the iPhone 5.
Had the iphone 5 for 2-3 weeks, and decided to sell it for N4, SGS3 or something close in price.
Going to save the extra money for black friday.
I think you should go for the nexus. One reason being that you can probably pocket half of the money that you get from selling your iphone. As for android being reliable, I have owned a galaxy nexus with jellybean on it ever since it was released. I must say it was a completely flawless UI experience. Also, seeing as you owned a note before, you aren't scared to go for the bigger screen. I know some iphone fans are worried the 4.7" screen may be too big. I used to own the iphone 4 and made the switch to android and never looked back. I just love the customization of android. Oh and by the way, I never rooted/flashed custom roms. I felt stock jellybean was so good it would be unnecessary.
absolutely not, but is your choice.
ATGAdmin said:
Over 56% off people that switch OS from the original one they initiated their "smart phone" (Oxymoron for IOS) experience on, ended up going back to their original OS.
Stay with what you know and are comfortable with, or you'll more than likely contribute to that 56% going even higher lol
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I doubt that 55% of the world uses Blackberry atm
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Any more news of a couple of the faults that have been reported?
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The phone is not released yet until a week from now. Wait until people get it and read their feedbacks.
About your dislike of Touchwiz, you can simply install a different launcher, it won't change everything, but it eliminates a good part of Touchwiz.
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Over 56% off people that switch OS from the original one they initiated their "smart phone" (Oxymoron for IOS) experience on, ended up going back to their original OS.
Stay with what you know and are comfortable with, or you'll more than likely contribute to that 56% going even higher lol
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I started with iOS. I never ever wanted to go back.
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To start off Iam no stranger to android&to the Iphone/Ipod touch OS(used to own an ipodtouch)
Iam truely brickwalled on deciding if I should switch to a nexus one or a Iphone 3g on tmobile. The reason why I'm still considering an iphone with tmobile is because for 1 my bill will go down a bit&I ll save near 200 on the phones purchase via ebay.
I do love android&the nexus one seems to be what I have been waiting for yet I don't want to be left out in the dark with 500 dollar device. By that I mean it not getting many android software updates. The only thing I can say I don't like about android 100% is the app market( I'm a sucker for games)
But all aside I just don't want to make the wrong choice as ill be starting my college classes in mid march&I need a new phone to see me thru. Currently I'm on a tmo g1&I havehad it for a year now. Its been dropped a few times&has its scares&I have maxed it out to my taste with custom roms.......but the time has come for a new device.
I welcome all help&opinions(esp if you have used both devices)
Firstly, the iPhone won't get 3G on T-Mobile bands.
I myself upgraded from a G1, and while I miss the hardware KB (mostly for SNES) the upgrade is great. All the things the G1 could technically do, this thing can do while running 5 other apps without any lag.
You're pretty much right about the games, but Polarbit has a handful of cool ones in 3d now that run great on the Nexus, and really show it off. Armageddon Squadron (dumb name) is a great WWII flying game where you can even dogfight online (though nobody ever seems to play). However, SNESoid is pretty much crippled right now that took away a lot of the gaming potential.
Eventually, however, it will have Flash 10.1 support, which will unlock a nearly infinite catalog of games online. Granted, Flash games aren't the most engaging.
I've been playing HomeRun Battle 3d on my nexus all day, so hard to put down.
you cant compare a Nexus One and iPhone 3G but u can compare it to a 3GS, i would go for that if u decide to take the iPhone route, the 3Gs is soo much better than the 3G
anyways i was in the same boat, i wanted the 3Gs but I was dying for and Android device, passed on the Nexus one ofr now, and saved 300 bucks and got a myTouch3G instead, i am still gonna in the market for a high powered ANDROID device but this is fine for now. SOmeone just put it to me like iPhone is for Paris Hiltons nowadays, its glamor. All the smart DEVs use the ANDROID platform
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you cant compare a Nexus One and iPhone 3G but u can compare it to a 3GS, i would go for that if u decide to take the iPhone route, the 3Gs is soo much better than the 3G
anyways i was in the same boat, i wanted the 3Gs but I was dying for and Android device, passed on the Nexus one ofr now, and saved 300 bucks and got a myTouch3G instead, i am still gonna in the market for a high powered ANDROID device but this is fine for now. SOmeone just put it to me like iPhone is for Paris Hiltons nowadays, its glamor. All the smart DEVs use the ANDROID platform
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Well said... the glamour bit.
I have 2 phones, a nexus one and an iphone 3gs.
IMHO, the nexus 1 is where the iphone was about a year ago, ie it's missing some functions (although you can add most of those through 3rd party apps and of course, the cooks are always making it better.)
HOWEVER, I love both phones. The thing with the Nexus is that once you root it etc, the possibilities are endless, just like when you jailbreak, but jailbreaking is easier than rooting (again imho) but you really get to know and love your phone once you have to figure out how to do things like fastbooting this and terminal into that etc...
There is one thing to keep in mind, the next phone is always around the corner and there could be a completely new iphone announced soon. Apple is having an event on the 27th of Jan, so maybe hold off on deciding until you hear what Stevy has to say
Either way, I think you'll be happy with either choice you make
Lou
samawil said:
I have 2 phones, a nexus one and an iphone 3gs.
IMHO, the nexus 1 is where the iphone was about a year ago, ie it's missing some functions (although you can add most of those through 3rd party apps and of course, the cooks are always making it better.)
HOWEVER, I love both phones. The thing with the Nexus is that once you root it etc, the possibilities are endless, just like when you jailbreak, but jailbreaking is easier than rooting (again imho) but you really get to know and love your phone once you have to figure out how to do things like fastbooting this and terminal into that etc...
There is one thing to keep in mind, the next phone is always around the corner and there could be a completely new iphone announced soon. Apple is having an event on the 27th of Jan, so maybe hold off on deciding until you hear what Stevy has to say
Either way, I think you'll be happy with either choice you make
Lou
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jailbreaking an iphone is easier than running 'fastboot oem unlock' ??
Also is it true that if I were to buy a jailbroken unlocked iphone 3g(3gs too exspensive)
&upgrade firmware that I would need a an at&t sim to activate it to rejailbreak then unlock it again?
If true that seals the deal&the nexus will be my choice
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jailbreaking an iphone is easier than running 'fastboot oem unlock' ??
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To jailbreak my iPhone I pressed a button that said "make it rain". Both a pretty easy, but the Blackra1n app is easier for newbies.
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To jailbreak my iPhone I pressed a button that said "make it rain". Both a pretty easy, but the Blackra1n app is easier for newbies.
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That's what i meant...download and click
I'm not saying it's better..just easier
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There is no solution to jailbreak new iPhone 3Gs hardware released after 11/09. Blackrain will jailbreak but when switch phone off and back on again it will be in recovery mode and to get out from that phone need to be connect to the computer and run a blackrain again.
Even rooted N1 can be updated to new firmware without any problem.
Freezey said:
I do love android&the nexus one seems to be what I have been waiting for yet I don't want to be left out in the dark with 500 dollar device. By that I mean it not getting many android software updates. The only thing I can say I don't like about android 100% is the app market( I'm a sucker for games)
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Why are you so worried about not getting software updates? Android has had quite a few updates for only being out 1 year. If you're worried about updates on the Nexus itself, it's only been out for 2 weeks. . .
If your network is T-Mobile, Nexus One hands down. If your network is AT&T iPhone 3GS hands down. If you mean iPhone 3G and NOT 3GS, I would still go with Nexus One on AT&T.
I'm an ex iphone user and htc hd2 (pants) and the nexus one is by far the best phone i've ever had and i've had loads !!!
Nexus one hands down!
My favorite among many is... ask an iphone owner to take a picture in the dark! Oh nevermind!
But without making this an iphone vs N1 battle... Android is the future
Don't let all the bad publicity about the Nexus sink in... it's all overrated, this is an awesome phone
On the question of if you bought an unlocked 3g, would you have to rejailbreak and unlock it using an att sim to get an update...no
If it is already unlocked, you simply install the latest firmware update VIA the right methods. If it started out properly jailbroken and unlocked, and was produced before week 40, you never have to worry about it locking ever again.
Anyway, a little background. I used to be on these forums CONSTANTLY (had an HTC Touch (Sprint) and HTC HD). I then finally switched to the iPhone (never wanting to before, because of the ridiculously many basic flaws it had).
I am now on an iPhone 3GS 32GB. It honestly is the best phone I have ever used. I run a small business (selling smartphones), and can focus so much more now on getting things done, rather on HOW to get them done so that my phone will work right.
I also sell the Nexus One, and played with a customers a bit before I sold it. It seemed good...but sort of beta. Animations weren't as smooth as I would have liked, the device wasn't as fast as I would have liked, and typing was a NIGHTMARE. Since it doesn't have many common implementations of multitouch, I had to be VERY deliberate and careful when typing in order to get it to work right. On the iPhone, I can type ridiculously fast. Since I am used to the more responsive screen, however, I sucked on the Nexus One. That being said, perhaps if I had gone straight from the Touch HD to the Nexus One, I would have never noticed / cared. Even at that point though, I could never be as fast at typing as I am on the iPhone. I can hammer out emails and texts very quickly, and the correction is superb.
However, you are asking about Nexus One and 3G...I think I would say Nexus One for you. I would say 3GS overall, simply because it truly is the best. But between Nexus One and 3G, go for the Nexus One.
1. You are not coming from an iPhones typing experience.
2. The iPhone 3G honestly is just too slow. I've got 2 friends with the 3G model and I can't stand it. The 3GS is really so much faster.
Also, you do indeed need to take into consideration the fact that you are going to use T-Mobile...for which you would have no 3G on any iPhone. However if you go 3GS, the speed of the device can in many times compensate quite well for this, especially if you have a good strong signal with EDGE (used it today).
Also keep in mind that since you will be forced to use EDGE all the time on an iPhone, the battery life will be excellent (although you could choose to do the same with the Nexus One of course - but probably wouldn't).
Another thing, the iPhone is kind of tested - tried and true. All the apps are made for the same screen and res, the same platform, there has only been 3 very careful and slow implementations of the device, they don't usually slap 100 bells and whistles on - so you can always rely on it - ALWAYS.
Also, I do have my iPhone jailbroken, and have taken care of the few faults Apple left, and added a bunch of awesome features.
I'm also told by my suppliers that I should have access to the next gen iPhone sometime soon so...perhaps you should indeed wait as has been mentioned, at a minimum I'd wait until that Apple conference dealyo on the 27th.
But really, I just can't say enough how converted I am. I also installed OS X on my PC and never think about Windows (even Win 7). Apple products really are just SO SOLID and dependable. And fast. It's awesome.
Don't forget it also depends what you want it for. If you want to tinker with it and get into it, a Nexus One is probably again your best choice. If you want an awesome full featured fast smartphone to get things done very efficiently and completely every single time reliably, I'd say 3GS.
Wow. This was the first post I've made on here since I got my iPhone. Truly though, it has been my best phone experience ever, and I have tinkered with quite a few HTC phones for a LOT of time.
I just came back for old times sake.
Anyway, good day to all you xda members! It was good to be back for a bit.
Just a quick FYI, I wholesale and retail all sorts of smartphones (including the Nexus One and factory unlocked (and software unlocked) iPhone 3G and 3GS). So drop me a line or tell a friend if there's interest!
[email protected]
Not going to adress your whole wall-of-text, sorry about that. Just a little note, a 16GB card does NOT cost $100, it's under half of that.
And as a little counterweight: I must say I enjoy Win7 and Android a lot more than OSX and iphone, but that might be just me. Also I'm not a devout follower of any computer software and I will never convert to anything. If I think it's better for my needs, I will use it (having had WM phones, ipods, iphones etc etc). I still use a ipod nano 16GB as my mp3 player because it's small and has a nice screen (although without itunes).
People saying they are converts to computer software/hardware well... too bad for them imo
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Not going to adress your whole wall-of-text, sorry about that. Just a little note, a 16GB card does NOT cost $100, it's under half of that.
And as a little counterweight: I must say I enjoy Win7 and Android a lot more than OSX and iphone, but that might be just me. Also I'm not a devout follower of any computer software and I will never convert to anything. If I think it's better for my needs, I will use it (having had WM phones, ipods, iphones etc etc). I still use a ipod nano 16GB as my mp3 player because it's small and has a nice screen (although without itunes).
People saying they are converts to computer software/hardware well... too bad for them imo
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Hey, thanks for the input. Would you mind dropping a link to a 16gb card cheaper than that? I have always been surprised they were so expensive, guess I have just been looking in the wrong places.
As for the convert issue...I agree. For example, I was going to drop my iPhone and move to the Nexus One until I tried one out, and discovered that it's 3G will only work with TMobile, and only in the US. What I meant by convert is...right now I have OS X and I have Win 7 ultimate, and I have an iPhone and have had many HTC phones and...In my experience, and for my uses, Apple products have proved time and time again to be vastly superior. But the second the "Nexus Two" comes out and beats the latest iPhone...I'm on board I've really always wanted an Android phone, and really always thought it would conquer. However for the time being, the 3GS 32GB jailbroken has proved the top of the pack for me.
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discovered that it's 3G will only work with TMobile, and only in the US
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Just wanted to address this - the 3G on the nexus will work fine outside the US - some carriers like those in canada dont necissarily use the tmob US frequencies but the whole of europe (on all carriers) and significant parts of the rest of the world does.
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Just wanted to address this - the 3G on the nexus will work fine outside the US - some carriers like those in canada dont necissarily use the tmob US frequencies but the whole of europe (on all carriers) and significant parts of the rest of the world does.
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How sure are you about this? From my understanding, even T-Mobile in other countries doesn't use the T-Mobile US 3G frequency. I was under the impression that T-Mobile US alone used their 3G frequency.
Can anyone help us out here?
.......because i sold it for $700, thats way more than i can sell my nexus one for.....so that has to mean its a better phone. hahahahah!!!
the iphone 4 is a good phone, but its not the nexus one. I love to tinker with the settings and to be able to just change every thing on the phone. Which the iphone doesnt offer. Im not tied down to what itunes will give me as far as updates.
Its also nice to be able to download an OS update and be able to actually update it while im sitting at work with no wifi and no computers in sight.
Im not an iphone hater, but given the choice to keep one phone, i decided to keep the n1 and get a little bit of pocket change on the side, i think its a win-win for me! Used it good for a whole week, and it felt so much just like my old 3gs. But the design is what won me over, i love the industrial look and it has a solid feel to it.
But i still cant believe i sold my iphone for that much. Its not like I had to work hard to get the iphone too. 2 hours max in line and i was on my merry way with the phone.
anybody else bought an iphone 4 and sold it?
No but you damn well better believe I'm going to be the first one preordering to do just that the next WWDC/announcement. Haven't done any stock trading with apple since the first iphone when I bought call options before the announcement.. cause after that it wasn't a sure thing IMO on a price move. This sounds easier than trying to get that trade right. Plus I get to mess around with it a week? Awesome.
I'm keeping my iPhone 4 it still is an excellent iPod. My main driver is my Nexus one.
Just because you mention the Nexus One doesn't mean this should go in this forum.. Meh.
very funny post. Judging from the thread subject, I clicked on it to watch the flaming. I will probably never own an iPhone myself. I am sick of paying big money for contracts and went the prepaid route. I picked the android Motorola i1 - the latest from boost mobile. I'm very happy with it. Now if only it could get its own forums on xda...
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Exactly my thoughts...
I´m waiting for my contract to run out...then I plan to threat Vodafone to jump into Vomit-Star and their Iphone4, they will react offering me the same phone at a better price...I will sold it, then pick another Nexus for my Girl, and keep the rest of money in pocket.
Bah, I'm just waiting for iPhone 4 in Australia, I wish it'd be released here soon...
There are several Nexus One vs iPhone threads already in this forum, please use the search function and do not start a new thread. Also if you are asking a question then direct it to the N1 Q&A Forum, not here - as already stated in the stickies.
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Hello, guys
I want to know what your views are on trading my iphone 4 16gb for an nexus one? Please don't get carried away with "it's an apple device". so, anyway i want to know your opinion on this.
It depends on what are you looking for in a phone - and then you need to compare, what each device does and how it does - and then decide if it's a good trade.
dollar for dollar i would see this as a poor trade...
What you should do is sell the iphone 4 for cash, then used that cash to buy nexus one + leftover cash.
Both phones can be had for around the same price. Both are really good phones. I wouldn't trade my Nexus for an iPhone 4 for nothing. The Nexus is a rare phone that is completely customizable and personable. I could never find myself stuck with one homescreen layout.
Would I suggest you sell your iPhone 4 for a nexus? Probably not. It could be a good investment as Android Gingerbread is due out shortly and the Nexus might pull in some big dough for having it.
I would suggest that if you want to make the switch to Android (which you should) I would hold off until next year when some of the newer dual-core chips come out.
If you can't wait to get rid of the iPhone 4 (I don't blame you) and you want something now, the Nexus One is a great candidate although good luck finding a AT&T version. The MyTouch HD, G2, EVO, DroidX, and Galaxy S are all good phones. Samsung and Motorola are software update Nazi's. The HTC variants usually have good community base for custom roms and hacks. The G2 runs stock Android which is nice, similar to the Nexus One.
The Nexus One gets its updates directly from Google which is why it is so popular. The others are updated via the Carriers/Manufactures.
htc fan89 said:
Hello, guys
I want to know what your views are on trading my iphone 4 16gb for an nexus one? Please don't get carried away with "it's an apple device". so, anyway i want to know your opinion on this.
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don't
trade it with a better phone, like HTC desire HD, Desire Z, Galaxy S ......
Where did he say he was doing a straight swap? He didnt actually mention prices?
Anyway, as said, it depends what you want to do with it, and which OS you prefer. The iphone is undoubtedly more polished, more stable, has a better battery life and higher resale value, and a greater range of games and apps. The camera is slightly better and the screen is noticeably better. As an overall ownership experience, I'd say for "most people" the iphone is clearly better. For a techie like most of the folks on this site, its not so clear cut. The N1, thanks to android is a lot more open and flexible, and certainly seems like its more powerful at times; there is nothing that can't be changed - the iphone is a lot more restricted.
So what do you want out of a phone? Do you want a good device that works nigh perfectly all of the time or are you willing to settle for a few niggles for a device that can be customised to a much greater degree?
Personally, I've got to say, if someone came along and offered to swap me an iPhone 4 for my Nexus One, I'd have to say that I personally would take it. However, in the real world, nobody is going to do that - the best I could hope for would be to hand over £200 and my Nexus One for an iphone 4, and with that in mind, the choice is simple - I'd keep the N1. For me, the IP4 is a better phone overall, but the N1 is easily 90%+ the phone the IP4 is, and for that reason given that I'd have to hand over a large wedge of cash to swap, the choice is reasonably simple. That said, I can't say I haven't sometimes been tempted to go back to an iphone.
I overheard a dude at work who is looking to get his first smartphone (on AT&T)that he was probably going to give-in and get an iPhone.
I asked him why he wanted the iPhone and he said because no other phone out there can touch it from his impression.
I asked him what it had that other phones out there didn't have and he obviously didn't do his homework yet, though he still had already developed the "desire" to get the iPhone. I know it's because of advertising, but the real thing was I couldn't nail down exactly why an Android phone would be better, or even what phone would trump it on AT&T...
The Captivate doesn't have a front facing camera which I believe is kind of necessary to really stack up against Apple's phone.
Anyone have any simple advice I can give this guy to stay away from Apple? He is obviously not that smart on phones, so I know he is adverse to custom ROMS unless I can convince him otherwise. Thanks.
Let him get what he wants unless you wanna have to hear him complain when he can't figure this or that out or if this app is not available. Less stress for you down the line. To each his own.
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True, android only better if you give it a chance and willing to play around.
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If he really wants the iPhone, he should get the iPhone.
If he isn't really sure what he wants, I would suggest that he go to the store and try out different phones in person. Sometimes a phone isn't what you expect when you finally get to play with it.
Also, I think if you're going to upgrade, make sure there are at least 2 phones you're interested in. In case you hate your first choice, you can take it back during the return period and exchange it for your second choice.
Mel_ said:
If he really wants the iPhone, he should get the iPhone.
If he isn't really sure what he wants, I would suggest that he go to the store and try out different phones in person. Sometimes a phone isn't what you expect when you finally get to play with it.
Also, I think if you're going to upgrade, make sure there are at least 2 phones you're interested in. In case you hate your first choice, you can take it back during the return period and exchange it for your second choice.
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Thanks, good advice.
I would only try and direct him away from locking in on a contract on an iPhone that's been out 6+ months when the next iPhone is right around the corner. May as well lock in on a brand new device to get the most out of it.
He should get the iPhone. It's a great phone and perfect for people who dont know how or dont care to modify their phone.
I prefer my Vibrant and wouldnt trade it for an iPhone 4G, but thats me, and I understand that for most people out there an iPhone is better, even if only because it makes them feel good to have the fashionable bling. To each his own.
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Agree with the poster above. Convince him to wait a few months for the next iPhone.
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Let him get what he wants unless you wanna have to hear him complain when he can't figure this or that out or if this app is not available. Less stress for you down the line. To each his own.
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That is the best advise possible. My coworker fell in love with my vibrant and wanted the equivalent on verizon. Since then every day there is new questions. I like helping people, but not a single day goes by wiouth something new to ask me. Be prepared for that.
I would let him know about a little phone coming out next week-ish called the Motorola Atrix w/ its dual-core awesomeness. Otherwise let him follow the cult of jobs.
I think the op just really wants to show him that there are other phones out there just as good as the iphone.
I know a co-worker of mine felt the same way and after talking with him he has now decided to go with the htc thunderbolt.
I agree with everyone else its just insane to go with a old phone when I new one is just around the corner. I swear if the 2g was still out everyone would still buy that
Thunder bolt!
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its very simple and others might not like my thought process but..
iphone is for simple minded sheep, android is for smart people.
if he has his heart set on an iphone, do not try and convince him, because if you make all these arguments of android being greater (and since he does not know his way around a phone), he is going to get a captivate, probably with android 2.1 + lag + gps problems + w/e other problems it came with, and i doubt he would know how to flash a new rom etc.
Then you will be 'that bastard that convinced me to throw away $200 plus my upgrade', and then one day he will climb up you window with a chainsaw (or machete if he is not that strong) and ....
Im not going to lie but the iphone is a pretty powerful machine. Dont hold me to this but i have heard that the processor is underclocked to 1 ghz to save battery..
But the os is so locked down which makes it better in some ways and worse in others.. if you havent noticed, the iphone sets the standard for smartphones, its always "well it compares to.the iphone this.... iphone that..." .
Apple does their research right and always sets the bar for smartphones. The reason it is not customizable is so that everything will work correctly. I personally don't prefer that I can't change anything (without jailbreaking of course, which is a pain in the ass) .
I kind of have the best of both worlds with an ipod touch 4g. Its very very fast and has excellent battery life but its just so boring..
So if he's not tech savvy then tell him to wait for the next iphone. However if he is lol tell him to wait for the samsung galaxy s 2.
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Ios is so ugly compared to what we have with android. It is so busy. I never noticed until I got used to android, but now when I see someone using an iphone I can't help but think that the screen is annoyingly crammed full of icons. Who wants to look at all that junk?
Also the screen is noticably smaller
To me a 4" android screen is infinitely more plesant to use.
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Would you some how try to get rid of it and buy a 6P or just use it? I know this is an android forum, but there are in the ios users in here as well.
If I needed some money I would sell it and get a 6p.. If not then I would just keep it. Interesting question!
Neither, I would find some novel/interesting way to destroy it, shoot a video and post it to YouTube...
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Sell it and get something else. My wife has an iPhone and I don't see how people think that crap is okay.
I'd definitely try it out in a while. There's a number of reasons I don't use iPhones but price is definitely one. That being said it is a pretty solid phone when I used the 2G ages ago and I'd definitely give it a chance before I gave it away or sold it.
I would sell it. I tried the iPhone 4 for a week, never again. It's just boring to me
Wouldn't be caught dead with a device made by that company, not in a million years. I'd take some fool's money for it and purchase something decent.
I'd give it to my wife. She enjoys its simplicity of use and the apparent status it gives. I didn't buy the 6s for her form the 6, as it seemed not a great difference to the previous model. But that's the same reason I waited for the HN6P after my Note 4. Believe me I was itching to rid myself of it, but ... didn't really seem to be a point. I'd get too frustrated with the Apple lack of widgets (and no they don't have them) and I'd really get annoyed at missing a back button.
I'd sell it. The build quality of the iPhone is good but the software is gimped and its overpriced.
I'd sell it, buy a Nexus 6P (if I didn't already own one), then go to a fancy restaurant with the remainder of the money.
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Would you some how try to get rid of it and buy a 6P or just use it? I know this is an android forum, but there are in the ios users in here as well.
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It depends. If all your "stuff" is in the Android ecosystem then converting to iOS would be painful. If that's the case you should sell the iP6s+ and get an Android phone. If you're in to rooting and ROM'ing then you should definitely get a 6P. If you're in to "features" you should consider a Note 5. Nexus forums are the least objective on XDA so if you're looking for different viewpoints you might want to post in an iPhone or Note 5 forum.
I tell most of my non-techie friends to get iPhones because they don't want choices, they want things defined for them. For those going Android I recommend Samsung or LG because their overlays make their phones more approachable.
BTW, nice gift.
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Would you some how try to get rid of it and buy a 6P or just use it? I know this is an android forum, but there are in the ios users in here as well.
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If my wife wasn't interested in it I would sell it.
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As a longtime android phone user and ipad owner I would definitely sell it for a 6p. I absolutely cannot stand iOS for my phone. I am never closed minded for anything and own all platforms (except windows.... F windows) I won't use anything for a computer other than a mac... But I really hate iOS. Why do I use an ipad? Content really. For the tablet function and feature Android is too cumbersome, but for a daily driver... Android is far superior and while iOS claims to be more user friendly out of the box, in the long run I feel Android is after about a week. The Nexus 6p is the the BEST phone I've ever owned. My wife was also a longtime android user until her work switched her to an iphone 6 and we are both frustrated beyond belief by its limitations.
My lady has a 6s+, and she is jelly of my phone. My pictures are better, blacks on the screen aren't washed out, the fingerprint sensor is also in a more natural spot, and OK Google seems to answer questions a bit better than Hey Siri.
Put it quickly on eBay before you have brain damage!
Now that I have an N6P already, I will sell it and use the money on a Z4 Tablet or some minor phones/tablets I never had the chance to reach myself.
If I got give a iPhone it would be sold in first half hour of having it lol
I would sell the rotten Apple too and buy something decent for the money. iOS is a primitive operating system in comparison to Android.
Bit of a pointless thread isn't it?
On an Pure Android section, the vast majority are just going to say sell it and buy a 6P, ask the same question on an Apple forum and you will get the opposite answer. The 6P is not a cheap Android phone, so people who buy them do so because they want the Pure Android experience, not because they can't afford an iPhone.
Each to their own and people have personal preferences, and also investments in eco systems made over years now.
I would probably keep it as a backup phone.
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