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ATT Forcing HSPA+/4G Data ???

http://www.wireless.att.com/cell-ph...ls.jsp?q_package=sku5100371&_requestid=618639
DataPro 2GB for HSPA+/4G Smartphone includes 2GB. Once 2GB is exceeded, an additional 1GB is automatically provided at a rate of $10 for each additional 1GB provided. Unused data usage does not carry over. For HSPA+/4G SmartPhones ONLY.
ATT is selling this type of data plan with the new ATRIX, what kind of impact could this have on us UNLIMITED 'Grandfathered' users that were thinking about buying the phone outright?
if i put my 3G card in, am i gonna get hosed? is ATT going to automatically try and switch my data plan to the 'required' plan for the 4G phone? even though i bought it outright? am i possibly going to have to fight to get the 'GFD' plan back after?
i know its all speculation at this point because the actual phone isnt out yet, but my gut tells me we might not like the answer...

I was wondering about the same thing, but I don't think we have to worry right now, I intend to get it then use it and in a month check, should they mess with me, I'll pull the information straight from their website with a datestamp that I printed stating that Grandfathered in gets to keep their plan. It really would be as simple as letting me keep it or I'll take my company off AT&T.
johng75 said:
http://www.wireless.att.com/cell-ph...ls.jsp?q_package=sku5100371&_requestid=618639
DataPro 2GB for HSPA+/4G Smartphone includes 2GB. Once 2GB is exceeded, an additional 1GB is automatically provided at a rate of $10 for each additional 1GB provided. Unused data usage does not carry over. For HSPA+/4G SmartPhones ONLY.
ATT is selling this type of data plan with the new ATRIX, what kind of impact could this have on us UNLIMITED 'Grandfathered' users that were thinking about buying the phone outright?
if i put my 3G card in, am i gonna get hosed? is ATT going to automatically try and switch my data plan to the 'required' plan for the 4G phone? even though i bought it outright? am i possibly going to have to fight to get the 'GFD' plan back after?
i know its all speculation at this point because the actual phone isnt out yet, but my gut tells me we might not like the answer...
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naturefreak85 said:
I was wondering about the same thing, but I don't think we have to worry right now, I intend to get it then use it and in a month check, should they mess with me, I'll pull the information straight from their website with a datestamp that I printed stating that Grandfathered in gets to keep their plan. It really would be as simple as letting me keep it or I'll take my company off AT&T.
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I was able to "upgrade" to the Atrix and i checked the option that said "I do not want to make changes to my data plan" since i am grandfathered in as truly "unlimited".
I dont expect to see any changes once i put my SIM card in. They relaxed their "grandfather" clause a little recently and im guessing what i experienced is exactly that. before they FORCED you to change your plan. Now you have an option.

For people with unlimited plans, you can still keep it, it becomes an option on the data plan picker that only someone with an unlimited plan can see. And yes it is 4g ready. And no it doesn't cost any more money.
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It is not a problem at all.
All you have to do is swap the sim. cards and you are good to go. Your plan does not change at all and AT$T isn't going to penalize you.
They are losing 16% of their customers do to the iphone switch.

Yeah it won't be a problem switching from 3g to 4g unlimited ...I recently purchased the inspire all they did was change the code for the plan in the system for me,vi popped my sim card in and have hspa+ unlimited
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Trust me you can keep your unlimited data.
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I have a tangential question.
I know going over 2GB adds 1GB for $10 on Data Pro. But what if you exceed the 150mb on the Data lite? Does it auto bump you to 2GB and Data Pro for the month?

If you have the unlimited data theres a new HSPA+ version of the unlimited plan that your moved to
in regards to the $15 plan its actually 200mB, not 150, if you go over your charged another 15 for another 200, if you go over that your billed another 15 for 200 more and so forth
Lastly if your buying a device like the Atrix your a moron to think 200MB for an entire month is going to cut it, in my opinion that plan shouldnt even be offered

Hehe, so they charge you another $15 for 200MB but on the other plan its $10 for 1GB? Terrible.
I agree with you a 200MB plan likely wont get you anywhere unless you are covered by wi-fi everywhere you go and otherwise don't use data almost at all.
Also, how does tehthering work if you have a grandfathered unlimited plan? And could you not just root and use thethering without having the tetherming plan? Say if you were on the 2GB plan.

Ive never quite understood the covered everywhere by wifi don't have wifi driving or everywhere that you travel, unless you never leave the house
If you want tethering, officially through ATT you have to get the 45 dollar 4gb plan, and lose the unlimited
An app like PDAnet would be a solution for tethering to keep the unlim plan and you dont even need to be rooted to run it

I still have my unlimited data and my Inspire

smitty1 said:
It is not a problem at all.
All you have to do is swap the sim. cards and you are good to go. Your plan does not change at all and AT$T isn't going to penalize you.
They are losing 16% of their customers do to the iphone switch.
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lol you're absolutely insane if you believe that to be true. Every business analyst website worth its money on the internet is saying Verizon didn't make much of an impact with the release of the iPhone4. They sold a lot of iPhones...but an estimated 90% of them were to people that were already Verizon subscribers. The 1 million iPhones that they keep quoting was *ONLY* to pre-orders made by Verizon customers.
Also, it has absolutely nothing to do with this topic. AT&T already said before the phone was announced they would move grandfathered unlimited plans ahead with new contracts (same thing happened with their last launch).

I'm glad to hear that AT&T is allowing us to keep our grandfathered unlimited plans. I've been planning on moving up to Android with the Atrix but was dreading losing my unlimited data plan that I've got on my current iPhone 3G.
If everything works out like everyone here is saying then it looks like I'll get to have my cake and eat it too.

I plan on switching to this phone from my
Data Pro 2gb 3g - $25
And I am wondering if any fees will be applied if I swapped my sim into the Atrix.
Also I am switching my Captivate with someone that is upgrading and wonder if their 4g data be switched out with a 3g data plan because of the 3g Captivate
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weirdboy09 said:
I plan on switching to this phone from my
Data Pro 2gb 3g - $25
And I am wondering if any fees will be applied if I swapped my sim into the Atrix.
Also I am switching my Captivate with someone that is upgrading and wonder if their 4g data be switched out with a 3g data plan because of the 3g Captivate
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I asked ATT about a "4g plan", and to their knowledge it does not exist. There is a 25/month (or 15/mo if you are on the 200 mb) data plan. period. It doesnt matter if you are 3g or 4g or justin beiber 6g. Its all the same price and the same plan... for now.

Alright thanks lemme know any updates
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FALSE. I got my wife the inspire 4g, and yes, the rep changed her from unlimited data(captivate) to unlimited 4G data(inspire, atrix etc.). So yes, you do have to make a switch to "4G." Try taking your sim card straight from your captivate, or any other 3g phone and put it in the atrix, you can make calls and text, but no data connection.

magnumrt562 said:
FALSE. I got my wife the inspire 4g, and yes, the rep changed her from unlimited data(captivate) to unlimited 4G data(inspire, atrix etc.). So yes, you do have to make a switch to "4G." Try taking your sim card straight from your captivate, or any other 3g phone and put it in the atrix, you can make calls and text, but no data connection.
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Did you get the Inspire 4G before AT&T relaxed their "Unlimited Grandfather in clause"? If o, that may have been your problem. Recently (2 months or so) they have said that if you have real unlimited plan and upgrade, you can keep your plan. You dont have to change. This is different to what they were saying when the iPHone 4 came out. Get iPhone 4 and you NEED to change your plan.
Also in regards to just putting in your SIM card into an Atrix, Do you have one? Did you try this? Or are you basing this on your Inspire experience?

No dice on keeping "unlimited" plan!
My current ATT Blackberry Data plan is "unlimited" and shows up like this on the Premiere site:
GPRS WAP/BBRY UNLTD DOM - BBUB
I called to confirm that I would be able to keep my n=unlimited plan and they told me that it would be changed to the 2gb-$25 4G plan immediately upon power up of the Atrix... AND that I could not go back to the unlimited plan even if I return the Atrix within 30 days!
Is the above one of the "grandfathered" plans? And if so, how is everyone else here managing to keep their plan?

Does this make sense?

I switched over to the new 20gb mobile share plan from ATT...I had the 5gb plan and continuously went over the limit and had to pay close to $100 in overages consistently. Unfortunately, I travel for work, so I'm constantly in hotels, so there's no way I can have a cable company install internet in my room, and the wifi from the hotels is hopelessly slow. I looked into broadband or "mifi" but they all had some limitations, whether in speed or in data allowance.
Here was my idea: Switch to a 4gb mobile share plan (I have 2 lines) from ATT, then get another phone from either Sprint or T-Mobile since they offer unlimited data. Sprint only offers 2gb or 6gb hotspot plans, but I'll just root and get their unlmtd plan, and T-Mo is goin to offer unlmtd 4G starting Sep. 5, and while they won't allow hotspots, once again, I'll just root. Right now, I'm paying $260/month for two smartphones and 20gb shared between the two on ATT. If I switch to 4gb, I'd be paying $150, plus getting an unlimited plan from either Sprint or TMo, get a basic Android phone that offers a tethering option, and monthly pay no more than maybe $70-$100, which would put my bill max at $250, still $10 cheaper than what I'm paying now and I get the added benefit of unlimited data.
I would be using the T-Mobile or Sprint phone for strictly a hotspot, so I'd need minimal minutes and messages. Does this make sense? Is there something I'm missing that would make this impossible?

composi said:
I switched over to the new 20gb mobile share plan from ATT...I had the 5gb plan and continuously went over the limit and had to pay close to $100 in overages consistently. Unfortunately, I travel for work, so I'm constantly in hotels, so there's no way I can have a cable company install internet in my room, and the wifi from the hotels is hopelessly slow. I looked into broadband or "mifi" but they all had some limitations, whether in speed or in data allowance.
Here was my idea: Switch to a 4gb mobile share plan (I have 2 lines) from ATT, then get another phone from either Sprint or T-Mobile since they offer unlimited data. Sprint only offers 2gb or 6gb hotspot plans, but I'll just root and get their unlmtd plan, and T-Mo is goin to offer unlmtd 4G starting Sep. 5, and while they won't allow hotspots, once again, I'll just root. Right now, I'm paying $260/month for two smartphones and 20gb shared between the two on ATT. If I switch to 4gb, I'd be paying $150, plus getting an unlimited plan from either Sprint or TMo, get a basic Android phone that offers a tethering option, and monthly pay no more than maybe $70-$100, which would put my bill max at $250, still $10 cheaper than what I'm paying now and I get the added benefit of unlimited data.
I would be using the T-Mobile or Sprint phone for strictly a hotspot, so I'd need minimal minutes and messages. Does this make sense? Is there something I'm missing that would make this impossible?
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Not to insult you, but using a phone exclusively as a hotspot is kind of a douchebag move. I know you need it for business and I know you're trying to save money, but you're the reason unlimited data is going away and carriers started cracking down on tethering. So please, don't do that, and consider going for a business line on AT&T or something.

What he said ^^^. Cricket has 3G unlimited data and they have modems as well. That may be a thought.

Am I making a mistake? Changing service provider

For the short version, skip below
At the moment, I have a LG Optimus V on Virgin Mobile running some variant of CM 7.x that the dev doesn't support anymore. The current plan I have is the $45 ($49.84 with tax) per month 1200 minute plan of which I never go over. 3G seems slow running off of the Sprint network (tested just now it is 780kbps at my apartment). 3G seems to disappear sometimes, but that could be the ROM I am using. The phone has slow Wi-Fi and a majority of the time only has one bar.
Tomorrow, I will be receiving an unlocked Galaxy Nexus from Google ($391.86). Now here is where the tricky part comes in:
I was planning on going to T-Mobile and signing up for their "unlimited" talk, text and web (2 gigabyte) for $60 before taxes and fees on a 2 year contract. I would also get a discount from work of 15% which I assume would cover the taxes.
A co-worker mentioned that T-Mobile also has pre-pay. As far as I can tell, the only difference is that there is no contract, there is no data roaming and no work discount. If someone didn't have the discount offer I can't see a reason they would go with a SIM on contract unless I am missing something.
What should I do?
Short version:
Ordered a Google Nexus, what should I do now?
A. Return the Google Nexus for a restocking fee and stick with the $45 Virgin Mobile provider. (Save more, but with slow and spotty data)
B. Keep the phone, get T-Mobile pre-pay SIM @ $60 (no contract, assuming faster more reliable data, but 15% more over the 2 year contract and about $15 more than VM)
C. Keep the phone, get T-Mobile 2 year contract SIM @ $60 and a 15% discount. (More expensive than VM, less expensive then non-contract, assuming faster more reliable data, 2 year contract)
D. Other option I have not considered

hawkshot said:
For the short version, skip below
At the moment, I have a LG Optimus V on Virgin Mobile running some variant of CM 7.x that the dev doesn't support anymore. The current plan I have is the $45 ($49.84 with tax) per month 1200 minute plan of which I never go over. 3G seems slow running off of the Sprint network (tested just now it is 780kbps at my apartment). 3G seems to disappear sometimes, but that could be the ROM I am using. The phone has slow Wi-Fi and a majority of the time only has one bar.
Tomorrow, I will be receiving an unlocked Galaxy Nexus from Google ($391.86). Now here is where the tricky part comes in:
I was planning on going to T-Mobile and signing up for their "unlimited" talk, text and web (2 gigabyte) for $60 before taxes and fees on a 2 year contract. I would also get a discount from work of 15% which I assume would cover the taxes.
A co-worker mentioned that T-Mobile also has pre-pay. As far as I can tell, the only difference is that there is no contract, there is no data roaming and no work discount. If someone didn't have the discount offer I can't see a reason they would go with a SIM on contract unless I am missing something.
What should I do?
Short version:
Ordered a Google Nexus, what should I do now?
A. Return the Google Nexus for a restocking fee and stick with the $45 Virgin Mobile provider. (Save more, but with slow and spotty data)
B. Keep the phone, get T-Mobile pre-pay SIM @ $60 (no contract, assuming faster more reliable data, but 15% more over the 2 year contract and about $15 more than VM)
C. Keep the phone, get T-Mobile 2 year contract SIM @ $60 and a 15% discount. (More expensive than VM, less expensive then non-contract, assuming faster more reliable data, 2 year contract)
D. Other option I have not considered
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I would buy the T-Mobile $30 for 100 min, Ultd Min and 5GB high speed data

hawkshot said:
For the short version, skip below
At the moment, I have a LG Optimus V on Virgin Mobile running some variant of CM 7.x that the dev doesn't support anymore. The current plan I have is the $45 ($49.84 with tax) per month 1200 minute plan of which I never go over. 3G seems slow running off of the Sprint network (tested just now it is 780kbps at my apartment). 3G seems to disappear sometimes, but that could be the ROM I am using. The phone has slow Wi-Fi and a majority of the time only has one bar.
Tomorrow, I will be receiving an unlocked Galaxy Nexus from Google ($391.86). Now here is where the tricky part comes in:
I was planning on going to T-Mobile and signing up for their "unlimited" talk, text and web (2 gigabyte) for $60 before taxes and fees on a 2 year contract. I would also get a discount from work of 15% which I assume would cover the taxes.
A co-worker mentioned that T-Mobile also has pre-pay. As far as I can tell, the only difference is that there is no contract, there is no data roaming and no work discount. If someone didn't have the discount offer I can't see a reason they would go with a SIM on contract unless I am missing something.
What should I do?
Short version:
Ordered a Google Nexus, what should I do now?
A. Return the Google Nexus for a restocking fee and stick with the $45 Virgin Mobile provider. (Save more, but with slow and spotty data)
B. Keep the phone, get T-Mobile pre-pay SIM @ $60 (no contract, assuming faster more reliable data, but 15% more over the 2 year contract and about $15 more than VM)
C. Keep the phone, get T-Mobile 2 year contract SIM @ $60 and a 15% discount. (More expensive than VM, less expensive then non-contract, assuming faster more reliable data, 2 year contract)
D. Other option I have not considered
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If your worried about slow data then why would u get the unlocked Nexus?? Your data will be EVEN more SLOWER on T-Mobile, Cause you will only get EDGE unless tmobile has 1900 band in your area.
And also if your doing a 2 year contract why not just get a phone? thats usually the point of doing a contract as well

hyelton said:
If your worried about slow data then why would u get the unlocked Nexus?? Your data will be EVEN more SLOWER on T-Mobile, Cause you will only get EDGE unless tmobile has 1900 band in your area.
And also if your doing a 2 year contract why not just get a phone? thats usually the point of doing a contract as well
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Wrong.
The Unlocked Nexus Is PENTABAND.
Meaning it supports the 1700/2100 AWS frequencies that T-Mobile requires as well as the 850/1900 NAM bands that AT&T uses PLUS the 900 band that used in some countries outside the US.
You are thinking about unlocked INTERNATIONAL phones that only get EDGE on T-Mobile unless you live in an area that T-Mobile has switched their 1900mHz band to HSPA+
Please do some more research before posting DISinformation. Thank you.
In regards to the OPs question, you have to take into consideration what's more important to you...fast data (and paying slightly higher monthly fees to get it), cheaper service (and slower data), or how you feel about contracts.
I would go with faster data....but that's just me. Contracts don't bother me. That may not be the case for you.
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hawkshot said:
For the short version, skip below
At the moment, I have a LG Optimus V on Virgin Mobile running some variant of CM 7.x that the dev doesn't support anymore. The current plan I have is the $45 ($49.84 with tax) per month 1200 minute plan of which I never go over. 3G seems slow running off of the Sprint network (tested just now it is 780kbps at my apartment). 3G seems to disappear sometimes, but that could be the ROM I am using. The phone has slow Wi-Fi and a majority of the time only has one bar.
Tomorrow, I will be receiving an unlocked Galaxy Nexus from Google ($391.86). Now here is where the tricky part comes in:
I was planning on going to T-Mobile and signing up for their "unlimited" talk, text and web (2 gigabyte) for $60 before taxes and fees on a 2 year contract. I would also get a discount from work of 15% which I assume would cover the taxes.
A co-worker mentioned that T-Mobile also has pre-pay. As far as I can tell, the only difference is that there is no contract, there is no data roaming and no work discount. If someone didn't have the discount offer I can't see a reason they would go with a SIM on contract unless I am missing something.
What should I do?
Short version:
Ordered a Google Nexus, what should I do now?
A. Return the Google Nexus for a restocking fee and stick with the $45 Virgin Mobile provider. (Save more, but with slow and spotty data)
B. Keep the phone, get T-Mobile pre-pay SIM @ $60 (no contract, assuming faster more reliable data, but 15% more over the 2 year contract and about $15 more than VM)
C. Keep the phone, get T-Mobile 2 year contract SIM @ $60 and a 15% discount. (More expensive than VM, less expensive then non-contract, assuming faster more reliable data, 2 year contract)
D. Other option I have not considered
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Babydoll25 said:
Wrong.
The Unlocked Nexus Is PENTABAND.
Meaning it supports the 1700/2100 AWS frequencies that T-Mobile requires as well as the 850/1900 NAM bands that AT&T uses PLUS the 900 band that used in some countries outside the US.
You are thinking about unlocked INTERNATIONAL phones that only get EDGE on T-Mobile unless you live in an area that T-Mobile has switched their 1900mHz band to HSPA+
Please do some more research before posting DISinformation. Thank you.
In regards to the OPs question, you have to take into consideration what's more important to you...fast data (and paying slightly higher monthly fees to get it), cheaper service (and slower data), or how you feel about contracts.
I would go with faster data....but that's just me. Contracts don't bother me. That may not be the case for you.
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oh okay, Didnt see that
I still wouldnt see signing a contract AND bringing your own device.

hyelton said:
oh okay, Didnt see that
I still wouldnt see signing a contract AND bringing your own device.
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You can sign a contract with T-mobile and get their VALUE plan(s). There are no device subsidies (as with the classic plans) but you DO SAVE a significant amount on your monthly service (ex: I pay 59.99$ for 1000 min, 20$ unlimited texts (i'm on a family plan, this would be less for an individual plan) and 30$ unlimited (no more 5gb cap)
For a value plan this would be 49.99$ for the minutes and 20$ for the data (not sure about the texts although i'm pretty sure that would be less as well...for a savings of AT LEAST 20$ (probably more if you include texts) a MONTH over the classic plans. Those of us who prefer device subsidies (like myself) can opt to pay less upfront for devices and more per month...
Options....it's all about options
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Think
1) Try to think whats better for you
2) Use Google in help
3) Also use youtube, there are more help for you dude

Try T-Mobile using prepaid first to see if you like the coverage and that way you aren't locked in a contract for two years. I honestly am not a big fan of postpaid anymore because the prepaid plans have gotten quite comparable to postpaid. You can get the $60 prepaid plan and get the same service (except roaming) but if you decide you don't like it, changing providers won't cost you the ETF. Plus ordering the Nexus means you can have a nice phone and go where the service is great (for GSM anyway).

personally i would sign a contract and get the best free android phone you can get, install a good rom and unlock it, and sell it on craigslist to pay for a portion of the nexus you already bought. I wouldn't get T-Mobile though. Never again, too many bad experiences with them. Not to say anyone else is any better, i just really don't want to deal with them again. I have AT&T, and while i have never had a messed up bill, or the crappy customer service i received with T-Mobile, i do drop a lot of calls... So there are pros and cons to all providers. Also, i recommend testing out the areas you are in all day (home/work) with a friends phone, on all major carriers and see which carrier works best in your area as far as speed and signal... I don't so much have the option in my area, i am pretty much stuck with either ATT or Verizon, and since i have the grandfathered unlimited plan on att, i am not going to switch to verizon and pay MUCH more... But my point is that every carrier has pros and cons overall, it all depends on your preference and which has the best coverage in your area. But no matter who you sign up for, get the best cheap android, add a rom and unlock it and sell on craigslist.

Will Nexus 4 be OK on Simple Mobile?

Sorry If has been asked, I searched and found no thread similar with the name.
But my T Mobile 2 year contract expires soon, and I was thinking of switching BACK over to Simple Mobile, Unlimited everything 50$ a month.
I am guessing there shouldn't be a problem since simple mobile use t mobiles network towers, but I just want to make sure. Thank You.

it will be fine, simple mobile runs on tmobile. Just do some research on howard forums on prepaid networks. Simple mobile is good if you have to do some international calls as they give u 5 bix a month credit for their unlimited plam.
However based on reports i have read, their unlimited is really about 2gigs. And sometimes they may even cut off data completely. With Straight talk you can choose between tmobile and att and they only throttle you.....

ijip said:
it will be fine, simple mobile runs on tmobile. Just do some research on howard forums on prepaid networks. Simple mobile is good if you have to do some international calls as they give u 5 bix a month credit for their unlimited plam.
However based on reports i have read, their unlimited is really about 2gigs. And sometimes they may even cut off data completely. With Straight talk you can choose between tmobile and att and they only throttle you.....
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So are you saying simple mobile's data on their $50 plan is only 2 gig? How about their $40 plan...im planning on getting that!!!!

sLiKK said:
So are you saying simple mobile's data on their $50 plan is only 2 gig? How about their $40 plan...im planning on getting that!!!!
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Actually, not he $50 SimpleMobile plan is not limited to 2gigs, its "Unlimited" - To what they define as "Unlimited" I can not say for certain.
They claim to be truly Unlimited; After speaking with their Customer Service, they stated they have not data cap. They will have ever Throttle your speeds (from 4G to 3G) if you violate their TOU/T&C (which you can find on their website; and states crap like do not run a server over their network [technically t-mobiles network] no pirating stuff, etc.. the usual stuff)
With the $40 plan, you are limited to 250mb of 4G, so why not spend the extra $10 and have "Unlimited"
My cousin uses Simple Mobile in Florida, he uses the hell out of it.. He turns his Nexus7 into a Hotspot and connects his laptop to it (while this is a violation of the T&C) and he has yet to be throttled or had service terminated... (the trick to the Hotspot/Tether is to mirror your laptops MAC to that of the device you have the data service through, so they don't notice 2 different device accessing the same data connection)
So you get the $50 Unlimited plan, you max out your usage, they throttle you, you wait until the next month to start fresh, or you Port your number to a new carrier and max out that internet.. No where in the US will you find truly Unlimited Data anymore (Sprint Lies!)

UberSlackr said:
No where in the US will you find truly Unlimited Data anymore (Sprint Lies!)
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Sprints definitely unlimited...I once used 30gb of their 4g wimax in a month tethering a dd-wrt router to my whole house while time warner was down. But that apartment seemed to be the only place in the city where 4g worked well. Everywhere else its 100kbps max 3g. Lots of places barely get 10kbps and have >1 sec ping. Really hope my nexus 4 gets here soon so I can kick sprint to the curb.
Also check your crappy local stores for simple mobile sims. I just bought one from a shady liquor store for less than the website.
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From personal experience the $40 plan is capped at 2gigs then throttled and $50 plan is capped at 5gigs then they cut it of completely so I switched to T-Mobile $30 100 minutes unlimited text and 5gigs of 4g data then I get throttled
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OK IMHO if you're considering simple mobile, which is a tracfone, I would recommend getting straight talk/telcel $45 or net10 $50 byop tmobile Sim instead (also tracfone). You can use telcel or net10 that can be bought on ebay for $1 interchanably. NOTE this is NOT the same when using the AT&T byop Sim.
At least they are sorta *unlimited... Simple mobile has these issues; 2gb high speed then throttled, 2gb cap, or instant throttle at 119Kbs from day one.
I am in Florida and I speak from experience, but this may have changed since tmobile themselves changed their $70 from 5gb to unlimited recently.
*I've seen a data screen cap or someone claiming having used 100gb without issues.
I also used T-Mobile/Walmart $30 plan but 100 min was not enough for me, even when using VoIP calling. I also hit the 5gb data limit.
Switched back to st but using tmo byop Sim this time. Got refills currently from $33-42/m no taxes but its not always the case.
YMMV

clockcycle said:
OK IMHO if you're considering simple mobile, which is a tracfone, I would recommend getting straight talk/telcel $45 or net10 $50 byop tmobile Sim instead (also tracfone). You can use telcel or net10 that can be bought on ebay for $1 interchanably. NOTE this is NOT the same when using the AT&T byop Sim.
At least they are sorta *unlimited... Simple mobile has these issues; 2gb high speed then throttled, 2gb cap, or instant throttle at 119Kbs from day one.
I am in Florida and I speak from experience, but this may have changed since tmkbile themselves changed their $70 from 5gb to unlimited.
*I've seen a data screen cap or someone claiming having used 100gb without issues.
YMMV
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If you can live with the data cap look into ptel. Their $40.00 unlimited plan is the same as simple mobile's. Your can order a sim and $40.00 pin and use the promo code "ptelslick20" and pay $20.00. The pins are good for a year so order 12 of these. I am switching when my 30 days expire with simple mobile

Simple Mobile raised their 50 dollar plan to 55 dollars after taxes and fees etc. Thinking about switching to Straight Talk.

joelcop said:
If you can live with the data cap look into ptel. Their $40.00 unlimited plan is the same as simple mobile's. Your can order a sim and $40.00 pin and use the promo code "ptelslick20" and pay $20.00. The pins are good for a year so order 12 of these. I am switching when my 30 days expire with simple mobile
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Nice find, thanks for sharing. I got some of the $99/90day refills for straight talk. But that might not be bad for mom or dad, anyone that doesn't use much but likes the choice..

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Nice find, thanks for sharing. I got some of the $99/90day refills for straight talk. But that might not be bad for mom or dad, anyone that doesn't use much but likes the choice..
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I order so many pins for my family and friends that they called me to make sure it wasn't a mistake

Simple Mobile Sim
I didn't want to create another thread but hoping someone can answer this since it's related to my Nexus 4 and Simple mobile.
I already am using Simple Mobile on my Gnex, but can I cut my sim that I am currently using and stick it in my N4? I am following these instructions: http://www.airportal.de/nanosim/
Any tips or tricks or warnings will be helpful.
Thanks in advance.

(LTE) Free 200mb data for LIFE from T-Mobile Announced!

From the press release via Droid Life-
" T-Mobile is the only major national wireless provider to make tablets affordable, connected and mobile right out of the box. There’s no bait and switch, no trial period and no strings attached. T-Mobile is the only national wireless provider to offer tablet owners up to 200 MB of free 4G LTE data every month for as long as they own their tablet, even if they’re not yet a T-Mobile customer.[iii] It’s really as good as it sounds – 200 MB of free data on T-Mobile’s nationwide 4G LTE network. That means each month customers can send approximately 800 Instagram photos, more than 2,500 emails or stream 200 minutes of music – all for free."
This is a great perk for those of us with the LTE Nexus 7 and another reason to get one if you havent already. Just thought Id share the good news. :laugh:

Well you should train your retail store employees. They just told me only the first month was free.
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It looks like you'll have to wait until November 1st. From Engadget's article on same-
"As of November 1st, the no-charge bandwidth will be available for the lifetime of any tablet on the network; customers who pay for data will get the 200MB on top of their existing caps. The company is simultaneously launching a tablet trade-in program that will discount new devices when shoppers bring in old slates, even if they're WiFi-only."
really happy about this. :laugh:

This will be sweet
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so long as i am paying for an expensive phone contract, i will not ever consider an LTE tablet contract as well. If only we could get this is england, it would be great.
What i wish someone would do though, is allow you to buy a second sim if you have an LTE phone contract. If i can tether my tablet to my phone, why can't they just create a system where you can have two sims, linked, and share your monthly data allowance between the two.

That's exqc ly what at&t and Verizon are doing with their plans in the US. The way only problem is that they've priced them so high it only helps if you have many devices. They also don't allow tethering. You generally have to install a 3rd party ROM for that.
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What i wish someone would do though, is allow you to buy a second sim if you have an LTE phone contract. If i can tether my tablet to my phone, why can't they just create a system where you can have two sims, linked, and share your monthly data allowance between the two.
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That's widely available here in Germany. I don't use it, because my phone operator has a good entry level offer (unlimited SMS, unlimited calls in my network and another one, 100 minutes into any network and 300MB UMTS data, after that it is locked to 2G speed) for 18€ per month. 300MB is fine for my smartphone usage. But upgrading to 1GB even adds 10€ per month, going to 3GB doubles the cost. But in theory if I had more data volume, I could add another SIM card to that plan and use the data on all devices.
But it was easier and cheaper to get a heavily discounted contract from another operator (Telekom) which has a better network for data and it costs me 14€ per month for 5GB LTE volume.

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That's exqc ly what at&t and Verizon are doing with their plans in the US. The way only problem is that they've priced them so high it only helps if you have many devices. They also don't allow tethering. You generally have to install a 3rd party ROM for that.
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That's not exactly true. We switched just my wife's phone to the family share plan and it was the same price as paying for the lowest amount of data + minutes + sms. On the share plan she now has unlimited sms, unlimited, calls, and 1GB of data as compared to 400 minutes, a small block of sms, and 300 MB of data. Not to mention before she did not have tethering and now she has tethering already included. Switched one device and we're already seeing savings.
So, for the same price we got: Unlimited Minutes, Unlimited SMS, 3 times the data, and tethering included (a service we didn't get before). So how is this AT&T pricing too high?
Now if we add my Nexus 7 on the plan it will be only $10 more a month and I will share 1GB of data with her. I don't find that to be priced too high at all. Either way, I'll be taking my free data from T-Mobile and just tether from my phone when I run out.

If i wanted just 200mb from my current provider, it would cost me £2 and would only be available for 24 hours. If i want the data available for a whole month i could get 1gb for £10. It is a joke.
I looked into it in the UK for my provider (02) and looks like they do allow this shared data thing, but only if you have a business contract with them.
LTE tablets are just not going to succeed so long as they are requiring people who already pay for a data plan on their mobile to pay for a data plan on their tablet as well. I will just tether, because name a situation where you have your tablet at hand, but not your phone.

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That's not exactly true. We switched just my wife's phone to the family share plan and it was the same price as paying for the lowest amount of data + minutes + sms. On the share plan she now has unlimited sms, unlimited, calls, and 1GB of data as compared to 400 minutes, a small block of sms, and 300 MB of data. Not to mention before she did not have tethering and now she has tethering already included. Switched one device and we're already seeing savings.
So, for the same price we got: Unlimited Minutes, Unlimited SMS, 3 times the data, and tethering included (a service we didn't get before). So how is this AT&T pricing too high?
Now if we add my Nexus 7 on the plan it will be only $10 more a month and I will share 1GB of data with her. I don't find that to be priced too high at all. Either way, I'll be taking my free data from T-Mobile and just tether from my phone when I run out.
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I suppose it depends on your situation. I haven't had to go out shopping in a while, but I'm grandfathered into a Verizon Unlimited data plan for roughly $125/mo for two smartphones. I'm stuck in contract until Aug 2014 for now.
For a Verizon share plan, we'd spend roughly $15 more for both phones and 4Gb of data (we use more than 2Gb combined)...assuming they apply our employee discount to the entire account. Adding a tablet is another $10 and we don't need mobile tablet access every month.
If I had to shop now, I'd look at Net10 with AT&T access for 2 phones for $85 and 2.5Gb of high speed data each. Then with the money saved I could get a prepaid tablet plan when I need it from whomever had the best rates at the time.
Of course if you can tether your phone, which I can do with my GS3 right now, then your data might as well be pooled and an extra sim is just a matter of convenience.
I'm hoping things in the US are starting to change for the better. It seems like a racket compared to rates available in Europe.