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I feel like I've gotten into a trap I cannot get out of.

Well damn. After getting the Note, it seems like that desire for the SGS3, HTC One X, or whatever new swanky phone with quad cores dies down when I see the lack of a S-pen on these devices. If the Note didn't exist, and if I still owned that awesome SGS2, I would have sold it to get the next powerful device like the HTC One X.
But noooo, now the only thing I look for is the availability of a S-Pen or similar device, and a screen as big as the Note. If it doesn't come with either, I can't seem to get myself to care about it. Anyone else stuck in this strange trap?

I agree with you 100%
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I don't see the specs of SGS3 anywhere.
HTC one X - With a Quad core 1.5 CPU and a Standard battery, Li-Po 1800 mAh. I assume this one's not gonna be a battery friendly device.
With the Note in Hand, I dont see any other options for an upgrade.
Besides, Life with the S-Pen + MMS is fun.

i hate my note
for setting such high standards
i think its going to save me a lot of money
my next phone will have to beat my note

JazonX said:
I don't see the specs of SGS3 anywhere.
HTC one X - With a Quad core 1.5 CPU and a Standard battery, Li-Po 1800 mAh. I assume this one's not gonna be a battery friendly device.
With the Note in Hand, I dont see any other options for an upgrade.
Besides, Life with the S-Pen + MMS is fun.
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HTC is no slouch man. They have been in this for quite a long time and I believe the One X should have decent battery life. It's quite the powerhouse if you put it next to the SGS2, so I'll give it credit where it's due. If the Note didn't exist, the One X would definitely be my next phone.
arungk2 said:
for setting such high standards
i think its going to save me a lot of money
my next phone will have to beat my note
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The thing is, which other manufacturer has announced a screen size bigger than 5" for 2012? Or promising a digitizer or wacom pen-thingy?

arungk2 said:
for setting such high standards
i think its going to save me a lot of money
my next phone will have to beat my note
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Note 2 of course

Very true!
arungk2 said:
for setting such high standards
i think its going to save me a lot of money
my next phone will have to beat my note
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I love being trapped, saves me a lot of timing keeping up with all the news about newer and faster devices and having to decide which one to buy next and when. Now i just have to wait for the note2. No hurry btw, love the note a it is.
Now let's just hope no other manufacturer come out with this screen size and making my life complicated again
Sige

The Galaxy Note needs better screen drivers. The rendering of near-black pixels is awful and the S-pen is not as responsive as other devices. But I would not trade it for any other device right now.
The mobile devices are following the steps of the PCs with the MHz race, which lead to CPUs disipating 120W and needing huge and noise fans. I no longer consider the CPU / GPU / 4G radio when examining a new device.
Like in the PC world, it's OK if you're into gaming and want to load the newest games on your device, but for 90% of the people, they won't see the difference between a dual-core and quad-core. (Recently the boys from Gizmodo gave a few Ipad 2 to reviewers saying that they were Ipad 3, and they provided feedback as such).
But a quad-core CPU, multi-core GPU, has it's impact on battery, weight and running temperature. The same that happened on PCs. It stopped making sense once the CPU was dissipating 120 W.
The same for 4G / LTE / Whatever are now talking about that's 1 Gbps. What sense does make a 50 Mps connection when you're limited to 1 or 2 GB a MONTH?
At 50 Mps you can only use the connection 3 MINUTES before reaching your data cap. This is not serious people, this is just marketing buzz for people that's technically illiterate and cannot make the most simple calculations.

Vulpix said:
The thing is, which other manufacturer has announced a screen size bigger than 5" for 2012? Or promising a digitizer or wacom pen-thingy?
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Only one I know of, some low end company.
I think everyone else was waiting to see how well the note did before jumping to bigger screens. It makes sense given the number of bad reviews the note gets.
I think now that they hit the 5 million mark, we're going to see a lot more larger phones. I'm not convinced there is a large market for the stylus though.

The only phone that meets my requirements is the Note. I liked the S2, but the Note is a much more versatile device. I'm a photographer, and the Note is a truly photographer-friendly device. My next phone will be a Note 2, and I'm in no hurry for that.
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Tegra 3 it's not a quad-core CPU, it has 5 cores. The fifth core is active when the phone is "sleeping" or with low demanding tasks, in order to save energy. Early reports indicate that One X's battery behaviour is quite good, but none official review is out yet, so it's premature to judge it (unless, of course, you're a samsung fanboy).
I'm going to get a HTC One X in the next 2 weeks, but that doesn't diminuish my urge to get a Galaxy Note. IMO, Note can't be compared to any other phone, it's on a league of it's own. If the biiiig size isn't a problem for you or the issues with the screen, get a Note. It'll do everything One X or SGIII do, only in a BIGGER way!
I won't buy one because I can only have 1 smartphone and for me it's too big for daily use

htc one out in the wild ...hmmm..not that impressed
http://www.droiddog.com/android-blog/2012/03/htc-one-s-for-t-mobile-caught-on-camera/

Just the other day when i was driving in the mud in the forest with my atv, A stick pierced my plastic shield that covers the braking cylinder. I took up my note, Took a picture and sketched on the image how the plastic was attached and what size it was. Sent the picture in like 2 minutes. Got an email back from the workshop that they have cut out that part in metal and was ready to be picked up.
So on my way home from the ATV run i picked up the piece just a couple of hours later and it fits perfectly.
That is the first time i really feelt how awesome the S pen function really was.
Now i might not have needed that part so fast, but it sure was sweet having it done so fast while driving in the woods and with such ease!
Before i even bought this phone i was like wtf do i need a stylus for, Its so Xperia X1 and that phone sucked. But i find it useful atleast a couple days a week!

Feel the same - although for me it's the screen size that keeps me from other devices. Never smaller than 5,3".

myself11 said:
I won't buy one because I can only have 1 smartphone and for me it's too big for daily use
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I thought the Note would be too big for daily use, but I was wrong. You're probably wrong too.

Yep, i need the Spen cause i'm an illustrator. All other phones are just phones.

Vulpix said:
HTC is no slouch man. They have been in this for quite a long time and I believe the One X should have decent battery life. It's quite the powerhouse if you put it next to the SGS2, so I'll give it credit where it's due. If the Note didn't exist, the One X would definitely be my next phone.
The thing is, which other manufacturer has announced a screen size bigger than 5" for 2012? Or promising a digitizer or wacom pen-thingy?
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What!?!
I beg your pardon?
For all I know (I. e. Experience) HTC is well known for their tiny batteries on every device currently! And if specs don't change, even new devices too!
For me battery size and performance is a must and after the Note (screen size and SPen aside) I don't see any device capable of getting me through an entire day on a single charge with heavy use.
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after galaxy S III realized I will post my phone on ebay right away.
Like I always do.

Moandal said:
I thought the Note would be too big for daily use, but I was wrong. You're probably wrong too.
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I know, isn't it ironic that the "it's too big for daily use" argument is put forth mostly by people who have never used it daily?

Galaxy S3 Positive Thread

Sick of reading the prophets of doom and naysayers saying "fail,fail" you've made your point so i guess you wont be buying one then therefore you most likely won't be sticking around these forums then eh!!
This thread is for positive comments only, i for one am delighted with this release it is pretty much what i expected to be honest with a few added surprises, the early review from the Tech Radar website is very positive indeed and i am looking forward to getting this superb phone although it will be a wrench to sell my SGSII but ill have to do so to part fund buying the Galaxy S3,

I am looking forward to the USA announcement and hope they don't change it too much from the international version.

Positive comment:
The Galaxy S III will be nice for someone who is ok with getting uninspired upgrades from last years model and don't care about the negatives such as:
- battery (not 2500mAh like the Note?)
- camera (still the same 8mp camera as the 12 month old SII?)
- screen (same screen as the 6 month old Galaxy Nexus?)
- UI (touchwiz + hardware keys)
- Design (yuck)

ap3604 said:
Positive comment:
The Galaxy S III will be nice for someone who is ok with getting uninspired upgrades from last years model and don't care about the:
- battery fail (not 2500mAh like the Note?)
- camera fail (still the same 8mp camera as the 12 month old SII?)
- screen fail (same screen as the 6 month old Galaxy Nexus?)
- UI fail (touchwiz + hardware keys)
- Design fail (yuck)
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what part of my OP did you not understand take your poxy negativity off this thread and go elsewhere ok

well u must admit the design of a phone really influences ones purchase of said phone. the sgs 3 design really looks bad which is (as i see it) the main reason why a lot of people are so disappointed.
however i think i will still be upgrading to the sgs 3 from my sgs 2. the new hardware + better batter is enough to justify my purchase of the sgs 3. though im pretty sure it wont last me as long as the sgs 2 did which i bought at launch.

They MIGHT change the design for the US, and include an S4 processor for even more battery life!

Definitely an upgrade from the nexus: bigger battery, removable storage and a physical home button (always hit the capacitive home button when pressing space bar).
Hopefully they'll pop in a beastly S4 snapdragon and this comes to Verizon in early June!

I honestly don't believe many people will have a positive thing to say. It's not a very revolutionary phone as the S2 was. The US version will be a S4 snapdragon most likely, I just wish there was a Exynos 5 dual model. Then I may actually get it.

diehard2222 said:
well u must admit the design of a phone really influences ones purchase of said phone. the sgs 3 design really looks bad which is (as i see it) the main reason why a lot of people are so disappointed.
however i think i will still be upgrading to the sgs 3 from my sgs 2. the new hardware + better batter is enough to justify my purchase of the sgs 3. though im pretty sure it wont last me as long as the sgs 2 did which i bought at launch.
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Ive no problem with the design and personally speaking it wouldn't be a deal breaker for me but each to their own, the 2,100 mAh battery is a big improvement on the current SGSII and that can only be very good news.
Early reviews on various websites are very good indeed, to be honest some people will never be happy and will always find time to complain that is just what some people are like i suppose that is no problem just not on this thread please.

ap3604 said:
Positive comment:
The Galaxy S III will be nice for someone who is ok with getting uninspired upgrades from last years model and don't care about the negatives such as:
- battery (not 2500mAh like the Note?)
- camera (still the same 8mp camera as the 12 month old SII?)
- screen (same screen as the 6 month old Galaxy Nexus?)
- UI (touchwiz + hardware keys)
- Design (yuck)
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Jesus, how can anyone say 2100 is a fail when it's one of the best on the market except for the 5.3" note ?
I'm also pissed off about these trolls I mean it isn't anything else it's just blatant off topic trolling, I think I will pm some moderators
Personnally I ike the design and as I said in another thread, from the few videos I've seen it just feels soo responsive and smooth, can't wait for june to get my hands on mine

So,
It's ok for you to troll the 'negative' threads with your 'positive' comments,
But not vice-versa?
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I really really like the design. It's appealing to me.
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To put it shortly: What a totally freaking awesome phone
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You guys should know by now that whenever a new phone is released. Xda is the place to read all negative aspects of a new device and see pages full of "fail" this and that. Just come back when development starts happening because that's when the trolls are usually gone. For now, I'm going to other forums for discussions.
Btw, if a battery with 2100 mah is horrible, then you loose all credibility. This is the Galaxy S III not the Galaxy Note II.

KaptainRandom said:
So,
It's ok for you to troll the 'negative' threads with your 'positive' comments,
But not vice-versa?
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who is trolling, you ****ing are.
I will be getting in touch with moderators if this continues

these are the positives things one can say about the sgs3 compared to the sgs2 for now.
1 - 720p screen with slightly less saturated colours than previous super amoled screens.
2 - 60% faster gpu
3 - 2100 mha battery.
4 - various software improvements especially to the camera though some not all are a bit gimmicky.
5 - hardware buttons. (i like hardware buttons)
6 - quad core processor.
7 - bluetooth 4.0
8 - up to 64 gigs of internal memory
maybe someone can say more?

the only positive thing about the S3 are its new core apps, i dig them all
stock battery choice is way good vs Nexus Galaxy

Design is in fact the only negative thing I have to say about the S3. I don't mind the plastic feel, the non SAMOLED+ screen (it's HD, I know I won't tell the difference), the fact that it's quad-core or that it's the same awesome 8MP camera (again, more MP does not equal better). In fact, this phone, though only an incremental upgrade over SII, is pretty much everything I was looking for when I heard about the Galaxy Nexus; I was disappointed by the GNex's 5MP camera (needed one to replace my old 8MP point-and-shoot) and non-expandable memory, so I opted for AT&T's cheaper OG SII. The SIII fulfills everything I was initially looking for and adds more. I even like the bigger HD screen. What I don't like is the bigger housing. I think software buttons would have made this my really-want phone, simply because my SII is already a little cumbersome in my pocket with its case (I dare not take off that case, I'm too clumsy). Case is an essential for me regardless of which phone I buy, so as much as I want this phone, it's just too big for practicality for me.
....even then, if I had a contract upgrade (which I don't :/) and AT&T offers it later, so long as they don't royally screw the specs I would seriously consider it, because as I stated before, it's everything I was looking for when I bought my SII: large HD beautiful screen, fast processor, 1 GB ram, expandable memory, awesome camera (annoying shutter lag on SII, so I'm looking forward to SIII), and great battery life (which of course, remains to be seen).

no big things to worth the money, ill skip this gen
S2 does the trick for the next years
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diehard2222 said:
these are the positives things one can say about the sgs3 compared to the sgs2 for now.
1 - 720p screen with slightly less saturated colours than previous super amoled screens.
2 - 60% faster gpu
3 - 2100 mha battery.
4 - various software improvements especially to the camera though some not all are a bit gimmicky.
5 - hardware buttons. (i like hardware buttons)
6 - quad core processor.
7 - bluetooth 4.0
8 - up to 64 gigs of internal memory
maybe someone can say more?
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Indeed asides from the obvious quad core processor,etc the larger capacity battery is a massive plus, battery life is very important for me personally, it took me a good while and many many tweaks to achieve good battery life from my SGSII mostly by freezing all the Samsung bloatware in Titanium backup and ill most likely be doing the same with the Galaxy S3, 64GB of memory with the option of a 64GB Micro SD card too is superb.

What to buy: LG, HTC X+, Note II

First I could not buy a G3 because the rounded corners was something I could not live with. The corners on the Note 2 are NOT rounded as much, and with a Otterbox case will be not as noticeable. The specs on the note 2 are almost perfect. The PPI is a bit lower but what I've been reading not that noticible.
The LG Optimus G has a PPI of 440 and I am sure the screen will appear much finer and crisper. The negative aspects of the Optimus G however could be a bit scarry...bad support, and a bad reputation for not supporting their phones.
The HTC One X+ specs are not very clear at this point, so it is an unknown at this point. The One X was inviting to me style wise, but the phone does NOT multitask, add in a non removeable battery and no card slot, and you have to run the other way. The update to Jelly Bean may fix the multitasking issue, but that remains to be seen.
One the Note's plus side, we also have a removeable battery, and a 64gb SD card slot, a notification LED,and NON PENTILE amoled display, 2 gigs of RAM, quadcore processor, all of which makes it quite inviting. I really cant think of any negative aspects to the phone at this point.
I've been on my Atrix 4G since March of 2011 and it has served me well. I got the Nexus 7 and that has satisfied my tablet craving for sure. The Nexus 7 has a LAG ISSUE which I assume google will address and fix at some point.
Switching between my Atrix with its 4" screen, and the Nexus' 7" screen is interesting. My Atrix actually runs smoother and so upgrading the phone to something a little bigger, faster, and better is very critical to me.
We may not know exactly what the negative aspects of the Note 2 are until it is released. I learned a hard lesson with the Nexus 7. With all the hype and great reviews of it, NOONE mentioned the lag issues and other quirks. If the Note performs and feels as good as I think it will, I may sell the Nexus 7 if the wife doesnt want it .
So really the main point here is I wouldnt preorder ANYTHING anymore until it is relased to the public and vetted because everyone, the companies, the reviewers, the magazines, all want to hype everything to death, even before it is released, AND there has only been ONE main report on the serious NEXUS LAG ISSUE even months after it has been released and well known. What I can say for sure is that I'll never buy an Iphone.

Depends what you are after and use your phone for, but all 3 seems they will be very nice on their own way.
I always get all new phones and normally use 2 phones at a time, one for daily use and one play phone. In the end i always end up using phones i thought I should use last.
Like now after a good while on s3 i did go back to my HoX as I just like that screen and feeling of the phone..
But the device i really want is Lumia 920 tho, but till that comes I for sure gonna give note2 and ip5 and other nice devices a shot..
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I was all for the Optimus G initially. The "poor support" thing did concern me but I figured the devs on xda would more than cover that. I could even just about tolerate the non removable battery.. But the lack of an SD card slot just killed it. I bought a 64GB Micro SD not long ago and I wouldn't have any use for it.
The HOX+ looked interesting too but just like the LGOG, the lack of expandable memory is a deal breaker for me.
That left the GNote2.. Big screen, RBG as opposed to pentile, user-replaceable battery (I have an extended battery in my GS2 now), more than ample internals for what I plan to use it for, it's a Sammy flagship (good support), and of course, expandable memory.
Imho, the GNote2 is the way to go, but of course, that's just me
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I think i will buy Note 2, for bigger display and spen. Gonna give my HOX for my wife.
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Btw here's my Atrix screenshot. Can't wait to see in on the Note
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panflute said:
Btw here's my Atrix screenshot. Can't wait to see in on the Note
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Whoa that screen
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does the Note2 have in-cell touch screen like the LG?

mojo22 said:
does the Note2 have in-cell touch screen like the LG?
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no. For now only the optimus G and iPhone 5 are using that tech (actually it's 2 different techs with the same name)

when is this lg phone coming out?

Note 2 definetly

randoug said:
when is this lg phone coming out?
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November in the US so it must be around the same time of the international version (if not sooner).

Galaxy Note II:angel:

CreepyDroid said:
no. For now only the optimus G and iPhone 5 are using that tech (actually it's 2 different techs with the same name)
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I think the xperia v too.
....was looking forward to that tech.

I am buying Note 2 so I never have to worry about having a tablet.
Message Coming from the Android universe.

the nexus five by htc looks amazing.
My life for Aiur

The note 2 is a different type of smartphone because it's a hybrid between tablet and phone, that's why I'm getting it so I can have the best of both worlds
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I'm getting the Note II...soon. The LG Optimus G has amazing specs. That processor may be faster than the Exynos 5250 when it comes out. It will undoubtedly the fastest processor until then. We'll just have to wait and see. But after much research, there are so many people saying they'll never buy LG phones again and they regret buying it. 2 years is a long time to live with buyer's remorse. Phone looks great, but the warning screams are too loud to ignore.
The HTC One X+, I thought for a long time that people who used the HTC One X absolutely loved their phones, and I think this is still true. However, I have followed some users who have the privilege of owning both HTC One X and Galaxy S3 who have given equal face time with both phones, and the it is clear the HTC One X has flaws with how their multitasking is implemented that it unnecessarily wares on your patience, time, and battery power. If you don't own both devices, you probably don't know what you are missing.
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I'm getting the Note II...soon. The LG Optimus G has amazing specs. That processor may be faster than the Exynos 5250 when it comes out. It will undoubtedly the fastest processor until then. We'll just have to wait and see. But after much research, there are so many people saying they'll never buy LG phones again and they regret buying it. 2 years is a long time to live with buyer's remorse. Phone looks great, but the warning screams are too loud to ignore.
The HTC One X+, I thought for a long time that people who used the HTC One X absolutely loved their phones, and I think this is still true. However, I have followed some users who have the privilege of owning both HTC One X and Galaxy S3 who have given equal face time with both phones, and the it is clear the HTC One X has flaws with how their multitasking is implemented that it unnecessarily wares on your patience, time, and battery power. If you don't own both devices, you probably don't know what you are missing.
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Yes stay away from LG, i have the G2x and yes while on paper its a great device the lack support from LG and 0 support from nvidia has left the first dual core phone in the states still running gingerbread unless you want to run ICS with no video drivers.

[Q] Anyone debating the switch from Nexus 4 to SGS3?

There have been many threads regarding the switch from the Samsung Galaxy S3 to Nexus 4, but are any of you considering the switch from the N4 to SGS3 (or back to SGS3) after using the N4?
I recently upgraded from a SGS2 Skyrocket so the N4 is much faster than what I’m used to. However, I have several friends who have the AT&T variant (i747) with dual core as opposed to quad core with similar “snappyness” in running daily tasks – does quad core really make all that much difference?
Some other gripes I have are:
- Lack of LTE (this was known but I didn’t realize it would be that big of an issue until I actually made the switch.. now I miss LTE),
- Camera is EXTREMELY grainy compared to that of the SGS3,
- Lack of storage space (I purposely ordered the 16gb and have yet to transfer any songs/videos from my old SD card to my N4 yet I already only have 9gb free),
- Although the resolution is definitely more crisp than the SGS3, the colors do seem a bit washed out when compared to AMOLED - AMOLED eyes?,
- My N4 gets noticeably warm after regular use.. far warmer than my Skyrocket got​
So that’s about the end of my rant. Do any of you share the same views?

Quad Core vs Dual Core. Quad is obviously better in the long run especially when Android 5.0 (Key Lime Pie) is out. Not to mention, Galaxy S3 won't have 5.0 right away. Developer support for Nexus devices is a ++++++
LTE: Use the LTE hack. Use search, people have used LTE on their N4 on AT&T.
Camera: use the camera hack in development
Storage space: wont go there.
Resolution: Uh... no? IPS > AMOLED when it comes to reproducing colors. On AMOLED, blacks are better
If you're having buyer's remorse then something must be wrong with you thinking about going to a Galaxy S3. N4 is far more superior in specs especially when it comes to development in ROMs and Kernels. GS3 is outdated as GS4 is right around the corner, Summer time '13 probably.

zephiK said:
Quad Core vs Dual Core. Quad is obviously better in the long run especially when Android 5.0 (Key Lime Pie) is out. Not to mention, Galaxy S3 won't have 5.0 right away. Developer support for Nexus devices is a ++++++
LTE: Use the LTE hack. Use search, people have used LTE on their N4 on AT&T.
Camera: use the camera hack in development
Storage space: wont go there.
Resolution: Uh... no? IPS > AMOLED when it comes to reproducing colors. On AMOLED, blacks are better
If you're having buyer's remorse then something must be wrong with you thinking about going to a Galaxy S3. N4 is far more superior in specs especially when it comes to development in ROMs and Kernels. GS3 is outdated as GS4 is right around the corner, Summer time '13 probably.
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The people using LTE on AT&T are few and far between. AT&T has such limited band 4 LTE deployment. As far as I know it only exists in Oklahoma and a few other test areas.
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zephiK said:
Quad Core vs Dual Core. Quad is obviously better in the long run especially when Android 5.0 (Key Lime Pie) is out. Not to mention, Galaxy S3 won't have 5.0 right away. Developer support for Nexus devices is a ++++++
LTE: Use the LTE hack. Use search, people have used LTE on their N4 on AT&T.
Camera: use the camera hack in development
Storage space: wont go there.
Resolution: Uh... no? IPS > AMOLED when it comes to reproducing colors. On AMOLED, blacks are better
If you're having buyer's remorse then something must be wrong with you thinking about going to a Galaxy S3. N4 is far more superior in specs especially when it comes to development in ROMs and Kernels. GS3 is outdated as GS4 is right around the corner, Summer time '13 probably.
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Yes, in the long run when apps become more demanding a quad core phone today is like future-proofing.. however, I don't normally keep phones for longer than 6 months anyway (family plan upgrades conveniently spaced out lol). So I'll likely be getting an SGS4 or whatever anyway. But for now, is quad core not overkill?
LTE only works with AT&T in limited markets.
Which camera hack are you referring to? The only one I know of is the frame rate mod for videos.. a link would be much appreciated
Yeah, storage isn't much of a deal anyway.
IPS > AMOLED when it comes to producing more natural colors.. doesn't mean vivid/saturated colors on the AMOLED aren't visually appealing -- it's not just blacks, any color seems to "pop" more. I realize there's a color mod out there as well for the N4 which can adjust gamma to make it more AMOLED-like but that would involve me rooting the Nexus which I feel I shouldn't have to do. SGS3 gives you the option to select "normal" or "natural".
CPU/GPU are definitely much better than the SGS3 but only really needed for intense gaming. It's at the opportunity cost of a better camera, LTE, sd card, etc. Is it still worth it to keep the N4 if you're a dev or are not into modding?

stabadus said:
There have been many threads regarding the switch from the Samsung Galaxy S3 to Nexus 4, but are any of you considering the switch from the N4 to SGS3 (or back to SGS3) after using the N4?
I recently upgraded from a SGS2 Skyrocket so the N4 is much faster than what I’m used to. However, I have several friends who have the AT&T variant (i747) with dual core as opposed to quad core with similar “snappyness” in running daily tasks – does quad core really make all that much difference?
Some other gripes I have are:
- Lack of LTE (this was known but I didn’t realize it would be that big of an issue until I actually made the switch.. now I miss LTE),
- Camera is EXTREMELY grainy compared to that of the SGS3,
- Lack of storage space (I purposely ordered the 16gb and have yet to transfer any songs/videos from my old SD card to my N4 yet I already only have 9gb free),
- Although the resolution is definitely more crisp than the SGS3, the colors do seem a bit washed out when compared to AMOLED - AMOLED eyes?,
- My N4 gets noticeably warm after regular use.. far warmer than my Skyrocket got​
So that’s about the end of my rant. Do any of you share the same views?
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To answer your questions, I have to say first that it depends of the individual use.
I don't have LTE in my country so this isn't a issue to me.
Camera is awesome for my use, don't have to complain about it. Sure it can be better but I don't shoot with my phone, I do it with my DSLR.
Free space to me is enough, I have like 130 apps installed and still have two gigs free space.
The resolution is definitely awesome.
I agree with you that it gets really warm. But with UV that's actually fixed.
Another awful thing is the rattling and the current noise sound coming from the earpiece.
In my case, it isn't really noticeable, that's why I'm keeping it. However a friend of mine didn't have that much luck, he had to RMA his phone.
Last thing, I think that you don't buy a Nexus to keep it stock. They are the most hackable phones on the market, so why?

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To answer your questions, I have to say first that it depends of the individual use.
I don't have LTE in my country so this isn't a issue to me.
Camera is awesome for my use, don't have to complain about it. Sure it can be better but I don't shoot with my phone, I do it with my DSLR.
Free space to me is enough, I have like 130 apps installed and still have two gigs free space.
The resolution is definitely awesome.
I agree with you that it gets really warm. But with UV that's actually fixed.
Another awful thing is the rattling and the current noise sound coming from the earpiece.
In my case, it isn't really noticeable, that's why I'm keeping it. However a friend of mine didn't have that much luck, he had to RMA his phone.
Last thing, I think that you don't buy a Nexus to keep it stock. They are the most hackable phones on the market, so why?
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I don't really see the need to root this device as I would normally do on an Android since it's already so fast and smooth -- I could care less about changing colors of the clock or w/e others use root for. To have to root your device to fix camera or color seems odd. I don't normally take pictures, but when I do; I'd like for them to be nice and not grainy like the ones from my Nexus. Also, I'm in Houston, TX where we have a decent LTE coverage and it just seems like I'm missing out.
What is "UV".. are you referring to under-volting?
I luckily don't have this rattling problem nor do I have any abnormal sounds coming from the earpiece.. I do however have 2 tiny dead pixels which are not that big of a deal but still irritating.
I originally jumped on the Nexus 4 since it was at a great value.. but since I can swap it out for a SGS3 at break even; I don't know if I should keep it

My wife has international SGS3 i-9300. It is much better phone than Nexus 4. in every aspect. I regret buying Nexus 4, should of pay $100 more and get SGS3.

I've compared the S3 and the N4 side by side many times, and honestly I'm not sure who in their right mind would go over to an S3. The N4 is quick and snappy and the way the glass curves slightly at the edges looks so good while the overly beveled/rounded corners of the S3 makes it look like a fisher price toy.
I'm in an LTE area and have experienced LTE speeds both on an S3 and an iPhone 5, yes it is blazing fast and yes it's awesome... but man why am I still on N4.. oh yeah because it's just that good.

Neverrrrrrr. N4 all the way. T-Mobile LTE, I can wait for it!
SGS3= Blah!
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LTE doesn't even matter. Especially when you're on verizon it just drains your battery. HSPA+ for me is more than sufficient. I get speed tests of 12 Mb/s I don't get why people make a big deal of LTE. It's not like you're going to download a Linux distro on your phone. Plus, data caps and LTE? No thanks. I'll stick with my HSPA and T Mobile.
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I came over from a T999 and haven't regretted it since. Even though I only have 8gb of storage, it's enough for me as my 7gb music collection is on the cloud, saving me enough space for 1-2 720p blu ray rips. The $30 T-Mobile Monthly plan is perfect, I kind of streamed too many episodes of Netflix at one point but I'm still at 3.7/5gb. The storage was't a big of an issue as I thought it would be since I can just work around it.
The S3 was already pretty fast but the N4 is even faster, the bigger apps open faster, and the new Adreno 320 should be pretty good.
Although I'm not a big fan of both phone's design, the N4 looks better and feels much nicer to me, however they both come up short in the design and quality department, but I was spoiled by Nokia's N9.

S3 battery seems way better than nexus 4 when watching Netflix over mobile data. I can watch one episode of TV show, with the same amount of battery i could watch probably 2-3 episodes.
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Like any new phones, there will be flaws to fix. Battery for sure along with this data fluctuation. I see it in a area full blast on HSPA.. It fluctuates from zero to 4 bars every so often..
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miyklusha said:
My wife has international SGS3 i-9300. It is much better phone than Nexus 4. in every aspect. I regret buying Nexus 4, should of pay $100 more and get SGS3.
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So sell it stop crying about it And as for your wife's sg3 being better than the Nexus 4 Well everybody is entitled to there own opinion

Well just gotta respect everyone's opinion.
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If you're not happy with the N4 why don't you just wait for the next gen SG? It supposed to be out in 3 months. You have a top of the line phone in your hands right now.
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If you're not happy with the N4 why don't you just wait for the next gen SG? It supposed to be out in 3 months. You have a top of the line phone in your hands right now.
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For $299-$349 off contract!
Ultimately, it's your phone. Do what you want with it. To be harsh about it, I don't think anyone here is willing to beg for you to continue using the N4 if you don't like it. Who are you for us to beg to stay? Like really.
If you were morfic or some kernel developer, I might beg you but they wouldn't ask for attention like that.

I started with the International Galaxy SIII (I9300) and the Nexus 4 is better for my needs.
**** Touchwiz. It sucks balls compared to the pure Google experience. Even just the Keyboard works so much better on GN than SIII.
Also, if you're not running Franco Kernel and the EIZO sound mod, you are missing out...
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For $299-$349 off contract!
Ultimately, it's your phone. Do what you want with it. To be harsh about it, I don't think anyone here is willing to beg for you to continue using the N4 if you don't like it. Who are you for us to beg to stay? Like really.
If you were morfic or some kernel developer, I might beg you but they wouldn't ask for attention like that.
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Well said my friend:highfive:

I'm coming from a galaxy s1 and I had a way better battery life!
I get 20% loss in battery life when reading emails and browsing the Internet for like 30mn, this is just ridiculous . It just feel so wrong... Reminds me of my old htc desire!
Do you think battery life will get improved over time? Or should I just trade my phone for a s3 (I always use aosp rooms anyway)

Thank God I didn't wait for the note 4

Jesus what a huge disappointment. I'm so glad I got the g3.... Samsung needs a new team cause its all the same ****..

Galaxy Note Edge
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Even more retarded

is the 805 a lot better then the 801? I mean even with the gpu bump in real world it cant be that much of a difference.

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is the 805 a lot better then the 801? I mean even with the gpu bump in real world it cant be that much of a difference.
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depends on what you consider "a lot better". The 805 would be a nice bump in battery life and would make things snappier with a QHD screen. Would also see improvement in gaming. Im sure if the G3 came with the 805 people would be complaining less about the battery life. Also it really depends on how the software is utilized with the 805 to see real differences. Considering how bloated touchwiz is i doubt itd feel like a huge difference in performance.

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Jesus what a huge disappointment. I'm so glad I got the g3.... Samsung needs a new team cause its all the same ****..
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+1 And then compare the price!!!!

I completely agree. I almost passed on the G3 to wait for the Note 4, but I'm glad I didn't. If I had, I'd be going to get the G3 today.

The Note Edge looks like it will be a complete nightmare for case makers or anyone that is prone to dropping their phone.

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is the 805 a lot better then the 801? I mean even with the gpu bump in real world it cant be that much of a difference.
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IMO the biggest improvement, beside GPU, is faster memory (2x900mHz, if I recall correctly)

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Or people who want to put a screen protector on their phone.

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Or people who want to put a screen protector on their phone.
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That too. In a world full of useless gimmicks, I think Samsung just took the cake with this one...

I quite like the note 4. Just wish they changed the design a bit more, flush back camera and got rid of the physical home button.

I too had a lot of thoughts if I chose poorly by buying the G3 instead of waiting for the note 4 (speaking as a previous note 2 owner)
But c'mon there is nothing special about the note 4...legendary battery life on the note serious?
The note 4 had a 3200mAh battery(Same as the note3) and it will sip the juice more than ever thanks to the 2k screen..so no longer "legendary" battery life...it left with the note 2
Camera? Though I rarely use my phone for photos ( Prefer my much more loved Nikon D7000 )..but the G3 does it all and well.. i do occasionally take some photos in case I don't have my photography gear with me
And the results are pretty good for a phone...
Software?please keep me away from TW
S Pen? I rarely used it with my note 2
CPU / GPU bump? I don't use phone for intense gaming or so...and I believe the 801 SoC is more than enough
I though miss the AMOLED display :\
In a nutshell..I'm perfectly happy with the G3..Although I wish for AOSP Rom for the G3
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I'd be lying if I said I wasn't disappointed

I kind of miss physical buttons. or those capacitive ones on the one plus one. with the option to have either.

You are right about the note 4 being a big disappointment but it's it's better than the G3 lol
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You are right about the note 4 being a big disappointment but it's it's better than the G3 lol
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Yeah ill get an edge

Well.. I keep wondering what exactly more people want from a smartphone.
How different can it be? If Samsung increases the size, it looses it's pocket-ability and market share. If they use even more premium materials, it becomes fragile (glass) and weight increases. These would be downgrades.
Design: It's basically a block with a huge screen. There's not many ways you can re-design that. Samsung did add metal to the edges to give a premium feel without weight increases and I think they have done a decent job at that. Remove the front buttons? Sure.. I'm sure many support the idea. But don't forget.. it's Samsung's signature design to have a centre physical button and many people buy Samsung because of that. Just like how Apple has their round button. The advantage is that you get more screen space too.
The dimpled back of the S5 received more negativity and they decided to keep the faux leather texture from N3. Nothing wrong about it. Miles better than glossy materials imho.
Internals: The CPU bump from 800 2.3Ghz to 805 2.7GHhz is very decent. You can't find anything better out there now (maybe except the NV's K1). A 64bit CPU won't do the end-user any good at this point. The screen bump from FHD to QHD is also expected and goes very nicely with the big screen. However, I have to admit that the curved screen edges are kinda sucky, esp if you're gonna apply an SP.
Software: Seriously.. I think the new screen grab function is very neat. No need saving individual pics or text before sharing. The photo taking from notes and handwriting detection is pretty nifty.. not to mention it does keystone correction! Also, a screen grab of a bunch of text will end up as ASCII when you paste it. It does OCR on the fly. Multi tasking is a step closer to windows-like. These are real new features.. not gimmicks unlike the smart-stay, smart-wave, smart hover or whatever.
In summary, I am pretty pleased with the Note4's offering. Beware, I am not a Samsung fanboy. The S5 was a crappy upgrade from the S4, being bigger, uglier and all.. but I would say the Note4 is a decent upgrade from Note3. :good:
Will I be switching to N4? No. I don't need the stylus nor the bigger screen size. Not needing such a device doesn't mean it's bad :silly:
Cheers!

After having a G2 and Flex which I liked both phones a lot I was going to wait for the Note 4. I just wanted something different. I played with a G3 and had to get it. So I'm glad I didn't wait for Note 4. Have a Jump to use and might try iPhone 6 though. Lol

Maybe if Samsung stopped downgrading devices at the same time.
The Note 4 is slightly taller and heavier than the Note 3
They removed USB 3.0 and went back with USB 2.0
The speaker is now on the back instead of the bottom
I agree that there is only so much that can be done, but look at the G3 for instance. They made the bezels as thin as possible compared to other phones, since it's not water resistant like the S5 I don't know what their excuse is for not making the bezels smaller. The battery is basically the same size, every other Note model has had a significant improvement in battery capacity, plus with QHD it's going to be worse just like the G3 is to the G2.
Overall Samsung makes a device that has good specs, but in a shell that is not pleasing to look at and easy to forget, with an OS that is full of so many half-baked features that since they don't work consistently, no one ever uses them. They need to get some new design engineers and take a page out of Apple's attention to every little detail, and either fix or remove most of their features so they actually work.