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I'm new to android phones. In fact, other than reading about them, my only experience with them is playing with the evo 4g for about 10 minutes. I was surprised at the significant stuttering while trying to scroll through lists. It made navigating the sprint tv application very very frustrating. Scrolling through the browser settings was also very annoying because of the stutter. Is this normal for android phones? Is it normal for the evo? Is there some way to fix it?
Right now I have an iphone 3g. I'm not happy with having to jailbreak my iphone just to get some basic functionality that I need. I'm afraid that with the iphone 4 won't even be able to turn on a jail broken phone without plugging it into a computer, so I really am looking for an android device, but this scrolling stutter might be a deal breaker, if it is normal.
Demo models are always torn up and not typical.
I really don't have any lag but I'm also rooted, removed the bloat and have a great task manager installed.
the nexus never stuttered. not a single step. the evo tends to. i think it has something to do with the bloatware that htc and sprint have filled it up with.
could be the 30 fps bug. the device is locked at displaying 30 frames per second so things could be choppy. that's the second thing i noticed about the phone. first was how fuzzy everything looked - i upgraded from a droid so that could be the reason.
I don't think its the 30fps bug. 30 fps would be perfectly acceptable. This is a stutter, not just slow frame rate.
If you're coming from an iPhone I can see how the scrolling would bother you. The iPhone is consistently 60fps in the UI at almost all times, does not suffer the choppiness of the Android UI when scrolling lists or applications. Restoring the 60fps target + Froyo should get the Android UI experience up to acceptable levels in my opinion.
It's the live wallpapers that make my app list stutter. I turned it off and it's smooth now.
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could be the 30 fps bug. the device is locked at displaying 30 frames per second so things could be choppy. that's the second thing i noticed about the phone. first was how fuzzy everything looked - i upgraded from a droid so that could be the reason.
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OMGG stop blaming a 30fps cap for the phone being laggy AT ALL. Its like every single forum if someone brings something up about the phone freezing, lagging, glitching, or not working. Some random person says "its probably because the 30fps cap". Thats not going to stop things from scrolling all in one motion.
But like others have said here, its most likely just because its a demo phone and there might of been a lot of things running. Since most people dont know how to operate android devices they dont close the program and just open everything and anything. Also htc/sprint put a lot on to the phone and bog it down. The phone will be more then operational without rooting, but if you do root, you can give the phone a big increase in speed.
The 'performance improving' ROMs seem to have a great placebo effect.
The phone stutters regardless of what rom you use. The EVO 4G is a laggy phone. It is very unimpressive.
Having sprint bloatware taking up space in your phone's flash memory does not affect performance. It is not taking up ram unless it's running, and even if it is, it will get reclaimed automatically by the operating system as needed.
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The phone stutters regardless of what rom you use. The EVO 4G is a laggy phone. It is very unimpressive.
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I seem to disagree with u there. My EVO hasnt choked once. Yeah, its a little jittery with LWP running, but without the LWP, my EVO is as smooth as can be. Not one complaint.
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I seem to disagree with u there. My EVO hasnt choked once. Yeah, its a little jittery with LWP running, but without the LWP, my EVO is as smooth as can be. Not one complaint.
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I'm coming from an iphone 3g which had no UI lag. Opening and closing apps took longer though. Scrolling, switching homescreens, and especially scrolling the apps list seems extremely laggy on the Evo..
Try launcher pro if you refuse to root and use the custom roms.
I have virtually zero lag and free memory is always over 200 mb
I'll agree, I just came from an iPhone 3gs and one of the first things I noticed was that the Evo wasn't as smooth. I really like the OS but the scrolling needs to be fixed.
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Hell... I came from an iphone 2G and it scrolls smoother than my evo.
I really think it's the refresh rate.
I had a Nexus One and never noticed the stutter, though some of my iPhone-toting friends did. But the second I updated to Froyo and everything was much faster and more responsive, I could notice how much slower scrolling and switching screens on 2.1 devices was. It's just a matter of what you're used to.
I get some stuttering when scrolling. My Hero (which I still have) doesn't do this. Strange thing is that sometimes I do not see this stuttering and it's smooth as butter. My thought is that something in the background is running and eating up CPU time.
Live wallpapers seem to make a huge difference in how smooth and regular the touch screen refreshes (like scrolling). I don't have big problems with preinstalled live wallpapers by Android and HTC, but when using most downloaded live wallpapers, the difference is noticable - for example, Galactic Core and RedEye Scanner live wallpapers make scrolling noticeably choppier.
This doesn't seem to happen as much with Nexus One I have access to. I think it might the combination of the 30fps cap and the Sense UI.
Well my plan now is to wait until the iPhone 4 is jailbroken. If the evo's stutter is fixed to the point that it is like other android phones, I'll buy the evo. Of not, I'll get the iPhone unless there's a new option on sprint or AT&T.
I should say that I don't buy that the stutter is due to the 30fps cap. I know what 30fps looks like. The scroll stutter/lag hurts useability. A smooth 30fps wouldn't.
It doesn't stutter unless your running certain live wallpapers. If you use a regular wallpaper there is no stuttering. This is not a problem with EVO as I had same problem on my Nexus but after the update to froyo everything was silky smooth even with live wallpapers. So my suggestion is if it bothers you just use a regular wallpaper until froyo drops on the EVO.
I don't get it. I have compared my Vibrant to my Nexus one and 95% of the time the Vibrant is just as fast. Two exceptions, the market and speedtest.net app. Other than that, it flies! I will say before I did a hard reset the phone was in fact slow, it was a day and night difference after the reset. I get no lag, fast swipe through screens with TW launcher and apps open fast!
I have no lag that I can notice, but then again I don't bog my phones down with a ton of apps and games I will never use.
No lag. Stock rom, haven't factory resetted either. No GPS problems either without GPS fix o.0
Guess I was just lucky. I applied lag fix for the benchmarks for the hell of it though.
How speedy a device feels is very subjective and varies under different conditions.
I do have a Nexus One too ( in fact two) and in some respects it feels more responsive (mostly the menu, home, back and search button). Applications open faster as well.
Now, the comparison is not fair, ad the N1 is running Froyo and doesn't have the bloatware services installed by TMo (visual voicemail, my account, et al)
Browser and rendering speeds are much faster in the vibrant. Noticeably.
Download speed are much faster in the vibrant as well. Using Speedtest.net the vibrant scores 6 mbs vs 2 on the N1, same place, same time, same servers.
I think the biggest issue with the vibrant (other than the compass and the gps) is filesystem access, probablu due to using a large flash-based memory for storing apps.
I expect that when (if) the Froyo update arrives, the phone will fly.
In the meantime, and depending which apps people have installed and how they use the phone, some will continue to have better experiences with the N1, others with the vibrant.
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I don't have an N1 to compare to, but, there was definitely a lag. Tolerable most of the time, but it would be completely frozen during a single install of an app from market. And don't get me started on a phone reboot. I wish I had timed it to be exact, but it must have been 5 entire minutes from reboot to when I could open and actually use the camera again to record something. Opera loads probably twice (maybe 2.5 times) as fast. Engadget would literally take 5 seconds to come up and at *least* 5 seconds *per page* to load, if not more. I would hit the arrow and have to wait..and wait..and wait. Now, I can hit the arrow repeatedly and it scrolls through news (both new and old)
Maybe not all phones lagged, but mine certainly did. Hope froyo helps some so I'm not forced to run a hack to get around poor rfs performance (or whatever it is).
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No lag. Stock rom, haven't factory resetted either. No GPS problems either without GPS fix o.0
Guess I was just lucky. I applied lag fix for the benchmarks for the hell of it though.
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Would really like to know when people without gps or speed problems got their phones. I bought mine the 19th of July from costco.
Also, the, "take off all your apps and games you don't use regularly. Don't use any widgets on your screens. Don't use all 7 screens for apps or widgets" comments are counterproductive. The phone was DESIGNED for this kind of use and if it doesn't perform as designed. Well, that's a problem.
One more thing - people like me who post about perceived problems are not HATERS. I love the phone and its potential with future upgrades to the software and firmware. That's why I come to this forum, to gets thoughts from the android community. Besides, if everyone who loved the phone and had zero problems with it posted all the time there would be no room for those of us seeking advice.
After youtube vid by AKASKRILLER IM ROOTED DID LAGFIX IN 10MINS W/NO PC NOW IM BENCHIN 2100+........HELLLA FASSST
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I see what you did there...
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LAG FIX IN 10MINS........http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dSg3qsD7QQ&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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I wanted to say that I did the lag fix via the update.zip method and everything flies now including the Geniewidget which would rarely load articles. Samsung needs to or has fixed this (not sure, we don't know until we get an official update) but.. I can use the TWLauncher now.
Coming from a G1 I don't see any lag compared to what I was used to. Running Launcher Pro I personally feel its a bit smoother than TW 3.0, but still works perfectly fine for me.
I often wonder if people just look for something to tweak because they simply can't leave things alone and constantly want to improve because they simply can.
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Coming from a G1 I don't see any lag compared to what I was used to. Running Launcher Pro I personally feel its a bit smoother than TW 3.0, but still works perfectly fine for me.
I often wonder if people just look for something to tweak because they simply can't leave things alone and constantly want to improve because they simply can.
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There is some lag that was very noticeable which happened every time you tried to use the market place and some random apps(the market was faster on my mt3g before the lag fix), after the lag fix the loading screen is gone if not instant.
Just did this update and I went from 983 to 2187! Awesome difference!
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Coming from a G1 I don't see any lag compared to what I was used to. Running Launcher Pro I personally feel its a bit smoother than TW 3.0, but still works perfectly fine for me.
I often wonder if people just look for something to tweak because they simply can't leave things alone and constantly want to improve because they simply can.
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Same story for me. I've never seen this lag that everyone is talking about (except for the one person that mentioned some lag when installing apps - EVERY Android phone lags for a few seconds while an app is installing). I run the standard TW home and rooted and uninstalled a few of the bloatware apps I'd never use. Don't really see any reason to do the "lag fix".
It seem that 25% of all the apps I try on the wifi zoom crash and force close. Pandora, slacker, just to mention two.
Is it a Honeycomb issue or xoom issue?
Will it ever get better or are some of the older apps never going to work?
I also have trouble with web sites that have flash video using either the standard browser or firefox.
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It seem that 25% of all the apps I try on the wifi zoom crash and force close. Pandora, slacker, just to mention two.
Is it a Honeycomb issue or xoom issue?
Will it ever get better or are some of the older apps never going to work?
I also have trouble with web sites that have flash video using either the standard browser or firefox.
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Everything will work soon - XOOM has been out a month now only and it's the first device with Honeycomb. Samsung, LG and others have announced their own Honeycomb devices and Google has their dev conference (Google I/O) coming up soon which will also help. Like previous years people think they'll be giving out free XOOMs to devs so that will help.
Look at Android - when 1.5 came out you could have said the same thing but now look we're at 2.3 and the apps are plenty. You just have to have some patience and enjoy the ride!
I'll say is more like 45%
Since geting the wifi version on Sunday I been having a lot of fc on apps I use daily. I'm begining to regret selling my archos 101 to get this
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Other than the chrome browser being sluggish and closing when it feels like it, all the apps I have work as intended. This includes pandora. I don't use slacker.
Agree. There still needs to be time given to get the devs up to speed on honey.
Search for the nook version of pandora it works great
Fwiw : the only app that FC on my Wifi Xoom was the XDA app. Solved that by dl'ing tapatalk. All other apps work fine for me. And my browser works fine. Not laggy at all. Only one FC in 4 days of heavy use. Don't know if its hardware, firmware, or the apps and web pages that are different.
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I'm getting a lot of FCs too.
what I did is downloaded spare parts and put compatibility mode and it seemed to make apps that fc'ed work make sure and reboot though
Have 117 apps in my drawer, and uninstalled numerous others for random reasons. Only FCs I've had are Facebook.
Only difference I can think of is using ROM Manager to fix filesystem permissions. Always fixed FCs on my phone after ROM switches.
I keep seeing mentions of XDA, but the app has worked perfectly for me from day 1 on my Xoom. Same with Pandora.
All of that aside though, it has been in CONSTANT use, almost every waking moment, since a few days after release.
EDIT: Different critter though, that WiFi thing? I can't say that is true, because these have popped up about 3G as well. Try running the permission fix, if you're rooted.
I get a lot of FC's and it seems like a lot of apps crash.. Def not a good feeling, but the fact that I can do a lot that the iPad can not, i am going to stick with it. I know it will get better.
But in my world, I have gone from old Windows Phones (pocket PC's) Palm OS's to iPhone, to Android, and a lot of other I think.. I mess with all of them, hack them in some way of ROM's outside software or whatever.
I seem to make them ALL unstable, and with that being said, FC's are not new to me. BUT I will say that the Xoom seems like the most buggy, but it's also the newest at time of purchace. witch makes me think that it will just get better, as 3.0.x and 3.1.x etc come out. I am almost sure that Moto will upgrade it.
X fingers!
but no matter what, I hope you and everyone else, keeps supporting the openness of the Android platform!
Other than Facebook and a Bible app, I have had 0 FCs among my 41 apps. ??
Xoom certainly has its issues. They seem more severe than the nexus s issues as far as software stability is concerned. Some legacy apps work flawlessly, others are horrible and crash or generally misbehave. I haven't had any os instability though, just individual app crashes.
This os is a big jump. The devs need to take notice and start building compatibility. A good thing to start with would be adding that one line of code to enable hardware acceleration. Some apps are laggier here than on older android devices. You can tell when that's been added to an application when it's as smooth as butter.
I'm pretty happy with it though. Currently just need to find a good news reader that's not pulse (ie need 2 way Google reader sync). Currently I'm using Newsrob, but it's not optimised for tablets. But at least it runs!
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Xoom certainly has its issues. They seem more severe than the nexus s issues as far as software stability is concerned. Some legacy apps work flawlessly, others are horrible and crash or generally misbehave. I haven't had any os instability though, just individual app crashes.
This os is a big jump. The devs need to take notice and start building compatibility. A good thing to start with would be adding that one line of code to enable hardware acceleration. Some apps are laggier here than on older android devices. You can tell when that's been added to an application when it's as smooth as butter.
I'm pretty happy with it though. Currently just need to find a good news reader that's not pulse (ie need 2 way Google reader sync). Currently I'm using Newsrob, but it's not optimised for tablets. But at least it runs!
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Check out 'NewsR'. It's awesome and the dev is working with me on iterating it pretty fast so it'll get better fast.
I know it's $3 so maybe try it quick since you have 15 mins for refund but you won't be dissapointed. Just keep in mind this is only a second release but he's got an aggressive roadmap ahead.
I'm pretty disappointed in the Xoom so far. My Droid X seems to perform better than it, despite it's single core. Is there hope for the following issues? I don't want to return my Xoom, but I'm just a tad upset spending so much on it...
These are the problems I'm having:
Slow downs using YouTube app
Slow downs on home screens and app drawer
Poor browser performance on all browsers (speed, display, text input)
Video recording and playback is choppy/unreliable
Bluetooth tether to Droid X is hit and miss (WiFi works fine)
Volume buttons are darn near impossible to use (lol)
I realize these are all software issues, and CAN be fixed, but does it seem likely? I know the G1 still has development going on and just want to get the most out of this mammoth.
I hate to say it, but I think there might be something wrong with your XOOM since I have experienced none of those problems. Perhaps it needs a factory reset or something?
I definitely agree regarding the volume buttons though, very frustrating to use! Thankfully you only have to hit either one once and then you can control the slider on screen.
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I'm pretty disappointed in the Xoom so far. My Droid X seems to perform better than it, despite it's single core. Is there hope for the following issues? I don't want to return my Xoom, but I'm just a tad upset spending so much on it...
These are the problems I'm having:
Slow downs using YouTube app
Slow downs on home screens and app drawer
Poor browser performance on all browsers (speed, display, text input)
Video recording and playback is choppy/unreliable
Bluetooth tether to Droid X is hit and miss (WiFi works fine)
Volume buttons are darn near impossible to use (lol)
I realize these are all software issues, and CAN be fixed, but does it seem likely? I know the G1 still has development going on and just want to get the most out of this mammoth.
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Only problem I have from your list is youtube HD playback. Rest is perfectly fine.
I've found the Xoom to be sluggish at places, even after factory resets. I do think it's a software problem as my O2X (same Tegra chip) isn't slow at all.
Overall it feels like Honeycomb was a bit rushed, and that some things could use a bit more performance tuning.
I think this may be some issue with your device hardware. I got no such slowdowns on my xoom. I concur sometimes youtube hd playback can be sluggish, but it depends on the wifi you're connectrd to speed.
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mine works fine except hd videos in youtube. disable the hd once u can n it will be fast. u can try a factory reset too
one question: How long have you had your xoom?
The reason I ask is for the first couple days after i got my xoom I was AMAZED by how much slower it was than my EVO. After a couple days though it seemed to smooth out and pick up speed.
Overall I'm less impressed with the xoom than I expected to be but I would recommend to any new xoom owner to reserve forming any opinions about it until it sees at least a couple days use.
I guess I'll ride it out for a few more days. I've had it about 4 days. I'll likely go play with a display and see what I get.
Have you flashed a new kernel? The latest tiamat kernel is (in my experience) smoother then stock (and has SD support). But the main thing is wait a few more days for the slowness to stop.
Sent from my Xoom the way it should be, rooted and with SD card.
also you might want to take it back and exchange it i had a bad power button and a few of the problems you have stated in your post so i took mine back and exchanged. Second one worked great and fine so i decided to keep my xoom and root it.
Never had any of those issues listed either. Might want to try the Tiamat kernal and see if that helps out.
Maybe a lemon. Go back to exchange it. Mine is working kicking ass.
OK, so I installed the 1.4.1 Tiamat kernel and wiped data. She seems to be running much better now. The typing in web pages is still a little slow, but I no longer get repeated letters when typing quickly. That was a big problem. I'm much happier, but some things are still a little slow. Looks like things could get better. Thanks for the help. If it's still slow next week after no wipes I'll exchange it as suggested.
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OK, so I installed the 1.4.1 Tiamat kernel and wiped data. She seems to be running much better now. The typing in web pages is still a little slow, but I no longer get repeated letters when typing quickly. That was a big problem. I'm much happier, but some things are still a little slow. Looks like things could get better. Thanks for the help. If it's still slow next week after no wipes I'll exchange it as suggested.
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I noticed the same thing. I rooted as soon as it was available and even with OC it just wasn't smooth. I couldn't get a single live wallpaper to run without slowing the Xoom to a crawl. Then last night I flashed the latest Tiamat kernel and its like a brand new Xoom!
I was going to go back to factory to see if that was the issue, but instead I tried the kernel first. So the two things I did was flash Clockwork recovery and flashed the Tiamat kernel (which cleared cache and Dalvik cache). Whatever it was, its awesome and I have been downloading all the live wallpapers just cause I can!
Mine was a little slow as well and seemed to balance out. Still not as smooth as my Evo for video though, which is depressing. I really expected to see updates by now to fine-tune things.
The silicone cover from Moto completely resolves the volume button issues by making them more prominent and easy to find.
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I'm pretty disappointed in the Xoom so far. My Droid X seems to perform better than it, despite it's single core. Is there hope for the following issues? I don't want to return my Xoom, but I'm just a tad upset spending so much on it...
These are the problems I'm having:
Slow downs using YouTube app
Slow downs on home screens and app drawer
Poor browser performance on all browsers (speed, display, text input)
Video recording and playback is choppy/unreliable
Bluetooth tether to Droid X is hit and miss (WiFi works fine)
Volume buttons are darn near impossible to use (lol)
I realize these are all software issues, and CAN be fixed, but does it seem likely? I know the G1 still has development going on and just want to get the most out of this mammoth.
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This doesn't sound anything like a xoom to me. Mine has been running very smoothly from the moment I first turned it on. I even tried to OC to 1.5Ghz but then I changed back to 1Ghz cause it was unnecessary. Maybe you should ask moto to check if there's anything wrong with ur xoom or even get you another one .
Hey everyone. I'm planning on getting the Tab, and I was wondering if Honeycomb is decently stable and responsible on the Tab, as I understand from some of the posts here that Honeycomb is still a bit beta-y.
Namely:
-Does it play YouTube videos fine?
-Do apps force close often?
-Is there a lot of lag on the device?
Thanks in advance for any answers.
I've had mine for approx 24 hours (and have barely put it down).
No force closes, no lag to speak of, and every app I've installed has worked. Maybe the benefit of low expectations, or being used to a Vibrant, but Honeycomb is awesome.
The only thing I've run into: I have a very strong wifi connection, and at least 3 or 4 times in Gmail and the market, it says "no connection-retry?"
Every time I retry it connects.
Anyway, that's my perspective after a whole day, for what it's worth.
Youtube is excellent.
-Does it play YouTube videos fine?
I've seen a few catches here and there. Nothing to completely turn me away.
-Do apps force close often?
I've only had issues with one app and reinstalled it no probs after that.
-Is there a lot of lag on the device?
I've noticed a small amount of lag. Especially with the stock launcher. I'm not surprised because most of the stock devices that I've played around with have had the same small lag.
I've also noticed that a lot more apps stay running on the tablets. That can't help with the lag.
I'm personally can't wait for the voodoo lagfix to hit kernels.
It's a great device. Honeycomb is a bit buggy. If you run some apps that aren't optimized for it, it force closes at times.
If you can handle that, it's a great device.
Cool, everything sounds good. Can't wait to get my Tab now!
Got 10.1 retail 16gb with 3.1, unlocked from Frys yesterday. Auto installed all of my applications, total of 100+ from Market & Amazon through HTC Thunderbolt 4G LTE hot spot within minutes. I have Samsung 7" tab since last thanksgiving. Works everything, loves it. A keeper for me.
I just got my GT 10.1 yesterday and thus far I am very happy. Runs smooth and seems stable in my (limited) experience.
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I'm personally can't wait for the voodoo lagfix to hit kernels.
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Supercurio has already said the Tab doesn't need a lag fix, so there may not be voodoo for it (although he already has the sound enhancements going)
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I've used test devices asking with rc touchWiz units - lags are present, but vanilla honeycomb is bloody smooth, it felt as the most fluid honeycomb tab (I've used all major ones out there)
I think this "lag" should be fixed with the 3.2 update which is due on xoom in next few weeks - it has "improved hardware acceleration"
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I've had a a few issues with apps force closing on me, and a couple of instances of slight lag in the interface as well, but overall I really like this device. Form factor is nice, screen is great and battery life is phenomenal.
I think the few issues with the 10.1 will be fixed in time - either by Samsung/Google or third party developers - so I'm not terribly worried. In the case that they aren't, these issues are slight and do not occur regularly so I can easily live with them - even if I shouldn't have to.
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-Does it play YouTube videos fine?
I've seen a few catches here and there. Nothing to completely turn me away.
-Do apps force close often?
I've only had issues with one app and reinstalled it no probs after that.
-Is there a lot of lag on the device?
I've noticed a small amount of lag. Especially with the stock launcher. I'm not surprised because most of the stock devices that I've played around with have had the same small lag.
I've also noticed that a lot more apps stay running on the tablets. That can't help with the lag.
I'm personally can't wait for the voodoo lagfix to hit kernels.
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The original Voodoo lagfix for Galaxy S phones was used to convert the filesystem on the device to EXT3/4 from lackluster RFS, from what I am reading and experiencing Samsung is using EXT3 filesystem on the Tab, so the lagfix is pointless.
Kernel tweaks and fine tuning of the Honyecomb when the source becomes available should address the lag issues if ever.
Supercurio won't need to do the lagfix needed for the Galaxy S devices, but he may still have a few filesystem tweaks and whatnot to contribute that will give a small (possibly negligible) boost to performance on the Tab. He did that for the Nexus S, even though the Nexus S used EXT4.
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The only thing I've run into: I have a very strong wifi connection, and at least 3 or 4 times in Gmail and the market, it says "no connection-retry?"
Every time I retry it connects.
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Very same thing happens to me. My Xoom or Transformer never did this, and my Nook Color and Galaxy S Vibrant also never had issues with my wifi connection.
So I thought it might have been a hardware problem, also because I hadn't seen anyone mention it on this board. I returned my Galaxy Tab 10.1 and got a replacement. The replacement is doing it too. So I am now guessing it might be software.
Glad to see at least I'm not the only one having this problem. Haha.
Honeycomb runs real smooth on my Galaxy Tab. Though I have noticed a few hiccups, these include:
1) Sometimes it doesn't recognize that I have headphones plugged in, I have to reboot the tablet then it works fine. Not exactly a huge issue for me as I don't use headphones that often and it hasn't done it a lot.
2) If you have the keyboard dock, they are like oil and water. The tablet automatically goes into Clock mode and won't come out. You have to toy around with setting a different default keyboard, keep docking and undocking the tablet and even test with docking it with the screen off vs with the screen on to get it to recognize that keyboard as a keyboard and stop putting the device in Clock mode with no keyboard functionality. I haven't quite figured out a single method that works every time, but once you get it working that keyboard makes things so much easier to work with when typing a lot!
3) There is some lag with the interface, but nothing too bad. The worse lag is with typing. With or without the keyboard, the typing lag is horrendous and it's the only lag on this system that actually bugs me.
4) There is the occasional wake-up jam. This isn't tablet specific, but Android specific... when your device just won't wake up and you have to hold the power key for 15 seconds then release and hold again for a few seconds and the device will reboot. This has happened to me twice after charging overnight. In the morning the screen won't come on and I have to hold the power button, release then hold again and the device will power up. Fully charged.
I am hoping these are fixed with the official Samsung release with the TouchWiz overlay. I am thoroughly happy with the galaxy tab 10.1 and do not regret my purchase in any way, shape, or form. Bugs are to be expected, but for a device as expensive as this one it doesn't hurt to hope the manufacturer would address them with the next update...lol.
BlackOtaku said:
-Does it play YouTube videos fine?
-Do apps force close often?
-Is there a lot of lag on the device?
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The YouTube app has been almost flawless for me. I think it did force crash once or twice.
Regarding force closures. There has been big improvements since the days I had a Xoom and Android 3.0. YouTube crashed once, maybe twice. The Browser app crashed once. I don't think Market has crashed yet, but it's still a little quirky.
Most of the force closures seem to be from third party apps that haven't been updated in a while. But I have apps I use daily that never force close. Pulse is rock stable, Opera Mini is rock stable. Just started using News 360 and it seems stable so far. Dropbox very stable.
The Honeycomb launcher is a bit laggy. I'm living with it. I tried alternative launchers like ADW Launcher and Launcher Pro, but I find those two look pretty ugly and the icons get all messed up when I rotate the tablet. I love how the Honeycomb launcher reserves blank space on the wide side of the tablet so icon spacing stays even. I guess I'm a little weird about that.
So far I think my biggest issue is streaming. I really have more trouble with streaming apps on the Galaxy Tab 10.1 than I have with other tablets. Pandora will freeze up when it's in the background too long. TuneIn Pro seems to buffer a lot more on my Galaxy Tab 10.1. Has my wondering if the wifi is that good or if there is some software issue. And I've had some intermittent "no network connection" errors as I mentioned in a previous post.
Ravynmagi said:
Very same thing happens to me. My Xoom or Transformer never did this, and my Nook Color and Galaxy S Vibrant also never had issues with my wifi connection.
So I thought it might have been a hardware problem, also because I hadn't seen anyone mention it on this board. I returned my Galaxy Tab 10.1 and got a replacement. The replacement is doing it too. So I am now guessing it might be software.
Glad to see at least I'm not the only one having this problem. Haha.
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That ironic. My Atrix does this, and it annoys me to no end (the Atrix has HORRIBLE WiFi connectivity) and in comparison my galaxy tab is fantastic. I connect to WiFi quickly, I get a strong data flow with fast uploads and downloads and no issues with disconnecting from the network.
Ravynmagi said:
Very same thing happens to me. My Xoom or Transformer never did this, and my Nook Color and Galaxy S Vibrant also never had issues with my wifi connection.
So I thought it might have been a hardware problem, also because I hadn't seen anyone mention it on this board. I returned my Galaxy Tab 10.1 and got a replacement. The replacement is doing it too. So I am now guessing it might be software.
Glad to see at least I'm not the only one having this problem. Haha.
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The really weird thing is that it only seems to happen in the native google apps. The first day I had it, it happened 3 or 4 times, then yesterday not once. I'm just wondering if Comcast was buggy that day. It's been known to happen.
I've had it for nearly two weeks (I am fortunate enough to live in New York so I ran to Best Buy in Union Square before the "official release"). I had a Xoom for awhile, and 3.1 is certainly an improvement.
I am not a power user as far as media goes, I am more email/web browsing/business apps, so I haven't had any major issues with Youtube, it's seemed pretty smooth for me.
The stock browser freezes up when a drop down menu is selected, and there's a long list of choices. Freezes, and closes all windows. Pain in the butt. I don't love any of the browsers on the Market (they all seem to be buggy as well and/or only open in mobile mode), and this is just a problem I'll have to deal with.
I've found that the battery life is good, but not great. Perhaps I have things running in the background that I shouldn't. But I'm not seeing more than about 5-6 hours, and as I mentioned I'm just using email and web browsing for the most part.
Overall, I recommend.
No issues for me outside of the odd program force closing. Google Music did that to me a few times until I updated it.
Stock browser is a little buggy at times. It didn't sync all my bookmarks well. I'm still looking for a good browser. Dolphin HD is alright.
Youtube runs perfectly fine.
Only a few apps force close on the Tab and sometimes the browser force closes, but rarely.
And there's only a slight lag on the home screen. It's barely noticeable but it's less smooth as compared to the iPad. Hopefully, 3.2 will improve the experience.