is ubuntu practical for daily use yet? - Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

i saw this was ubuntus base device and was reailly curious on how it works. seems yo be laot of bugs so is it racical for daily use? can i put it into wugs bootloader or reboot into recovery and restore a backup or something if i want to get android back?
how much space does it leave me?

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New Device, System, Operator ?'s

Hi all!
I did try searching, might be too simple...
New to Android, etc...
Windows and Toshiba taught me to always download original files and archive them for later recovery, drivers, etc... to factory recovery years later when needed.
Now with this...
I think I was at JRN84D (4.1) when purchased on vacation, took OTA update to JRO03D (4.1.1).
At Google, ONLY JRO03D is available.
? Should I hunt around to find and archive JRN84D (or ask for someone else's archive PM) or will JRO03D always be THE factory recover baseline for this device?
?If they replace JRO03D with something else, will those always be then considered the factory baseline? (Or should I keep a progression of images?)
?I think since this is flashed, that my OE file (JR84D) is truly gone forever, since JRO03 is flashed 'over' it, and I can never really factory recover to 'out of the box' state - am I right?
(Trying to get my ducks in a row to start trying Mskip's package...)
THANKS
As long as you have the net Mskips tool will download a stock rom and flash it for you anyway
Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk 2
ROM/ DISK Drive devices.Failure rate .
There is a huge difference in A Tablet os then the tradition installation of windows. Windows is a compiled bunch of software running on a Disk drive.. High Failure rate.
Android Tablet phone/ devices. These are firmware running on a non destructible ROM CHIP. if you are totally stock..and never change that. There is a pre made so to speak backup built in.. This will restore your device to its original state.
You can download the latest firmware os / kernel from gogle as i see you have found already. Be SURE you have and know how to use the tools to flash the software in case of a non boot situation.. I would not count on the install tools mentions above.. FASTBOOT ADB AND BOOT-LOADER COMMANDS .... If you really want to learn about android and understand arm devices more . Lots of information with a google search..
So what im saying is a Un rooted tablet have a very low almost near software error rate. (A QUICK RESTORE WILL FIX EASLY)
If you are not root and you mess up your tablet simple fix.
If you root your tablet and install a custom recovery.. Then you need to save the tools to install the recovery the recovery files. The Boot-Loader files and the ROM. YOU are using or want to use.. Could be stock ROM CUSTOM ROM. if you use a custom kernel you need this as well.
You should also first boot into the CUSTOM Recovery MADE A NANDROD BACKUP... This will be your ticket to restore the device quickly and easy.
I know this is alot of vague information but it kinda touches what your asking..
Good luck .. Guys feel free to fill in the blanks and correct my mistakes.. OOPS Erica makes no mistakes right .. hehe
THX all - I've , let's see - unlocked, rooted, flashed a new rom, restored 'factory' rom, unrooted and relocked - whew!
I think there is a real problem with terminology for OE roms - both by users and the OE. My device says factory or factory state in it somewhere - but that is clearly not what it means. It means current factory or something like that - and that it will never be back to the out-of-the-box factory state. Apparently, I can only ever get back to the cleared-of-user, current 'factory' state.
Anyway, I've a recovery method and the current rom stored for the future.
Is there a site that store earlier roms?

Switch b/w Ubuntu / Android and Dual Boot

Hello,
Running i9250 on stock 4.2 android.
Want to try the Ubuntu stable build on it. I can see the Ubuntu Installation steps on Ubuntu website.
However just want to know what would be the way back to android. Would I be able to keep CWM recovery partition and restore an old nandroid backup. ?
Secondly is it possible to run Android and Ubuntu in a dual boot mode..
Thanks for your replies.
HyperEscape said:
Hello,
Running i9250 on stock 4.2 android.
Want to try the Ubuntu stable build on it. I can see the Ubuntu Installation steps on Ubuntu website.
However just want to know what would be the way back to android. Would I be able to keep CWM recovery partition and restore an old nandroid backup. ?
Secondly is it possible to run Android and Ubuntu in a dual boot mode..
Thanks for your replies.
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Hello,
at least for 2012 Sony Xperias (S, Acro S and ION) there exists a dual boot tool by @letama, which can be found here and is verified to run the Ubuntu OS as one of the two roms (or both, whatever sense that should make...).
Of course this specific minikernel will not help you directly, but maybe it'll point you in the right direction to continue your search. Maybe you can find out, whether a similar tool can be made / exists for your device in the thread mentioned.
HyperEscape said:
Hello,
Running i9250 on stock 4.2 android.
Want to try the Ubuntu stable build on it. I can see the Ubuntu Installation steps on Ubuntu website.
However just want to know what would be the way back to android. Would I be able to keep CWM recovery partition and restore an old nandroid backup. ?
Secondly is it possible to run Android and Ubuntu in a dual boot mode..
Thanks for your replies.
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I installed the stable version on my I9250. I'm not sure about the dual boot as this was not my daily driver.
From my experience after installing I could not go back to a CWM ot TWRP back up.
I had to do a reinstall a fresh 4.2.2 and then re-root.
I tried to restore back up from TWRP, but for some reason I had issues with a complete restore.
it was no biggie for me, since it was not my daily driver, but I made sure to back up the data I had on it just in case.
My experience.

Thinking of Rooting the wife's old N7, suggestions and guidance needed.

OK, got the wife a new tablet as she could not deal with how slow her N 7 first edition had become, even after numerous FR.
So with that being said, I was going to sell this device, as I really didn't need it, but for $50 it's not worth selling, so I am thinking about rooting it to see if I can speed it up a little and use it as a back up, when ever needed. I heard about Towelroot, is it safe, or is there a better and safer way ?
1) Best way to root
2) Will rooting it make it at least usable, it's so slow now
3) What Roms do you recommend.
you can use the nexus root toolkit, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1766475 ....to install twrp , wipe the device and then install another ROM like one of those in this forum. It's not really the fact that you will root the device that will make it faster, it's more a matter of installing a new Rom and clearing all the garbage on the tablet. ( cache and davlik cache) . Reinstall a small Rom and not too many apps to let more memory for the device to work properly is the trick . You can flash one of those roms based on 5.1.1 lollipop like "dirty unicorn". There are no bad Roms in this forum, so it's a matter of choice...I'm not sure that your wife need any apps that will need Root. Many Roms have the options of being superuser, which is almost the same. You will have to learn how to get into the developer mode , on the tablet's options, to activate the usb debugging so that you can flash TWRP and use any program that can be used to flash a new rom. The nexus root toolkit has a good guide to help you start with it. Once TWRP is installed, I like to use a OTG cable and a flash drive to install any new Rom from TWRP itself. I find it faster and easier to use than the toolkit. TWRP will remain on the tablet so you can try a few Roms and choose the one you like. After installing a ROM , you need to install a Gapp to access the google store. Choose a small size gapps ( 80 megs or so) because the nexus 7 doesn't have the memory to flash a large gapp. Good luck and happy flashing.
Thanks I will definitely check it out, cheers

Old issue, never fixed.

I started this thread: (https://forum.xda-developers.com/axon-7/help/help-loss-root-twrp-t3781054)
a while back and ended up never solving my issue, eventually giving up and living with an unrooted phone.
Anyhow I've been trying again to get to the bottom of the issue and after another day of fruitless research here I am hoping to bring it back to your attention.
Does anyone around here regularly use a mac to perform adb commands? I'd love to get some help trying to get fastboot working again.
Should I just give up and find a Windows computer to do this?
Thanks for reading
alajoy said:
I started this thread: (https://forum.xda-developers.com/axon-7/help/help-loss-root-twrp-t3781054)
a while back and ended up never solving my issue, eventually giving up and living with an unrooted phone.
Anyhow I've been trying again to get to the bottom of the issue and after another day of fruitless research here I am hoping to bring it back to your attention.
Does anyone around here regularly use a mac to perform adb commands? I'd love to get some help trying to get fastboot working again.
Should I just give up and find a Windows computer to do this?
Thanks for reading
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That guy was horribly wrong and sorry you had to live with an unrooted phone for so long. But in newer versions of Nougat (i think B32 or B35) they removed fastboot and you could not boot into it. I have a way of being able to install TWRP here without fastboot (assuming you're on an Oreo bootstack, otherwise you can do almost everything in that thread except use a TWRP for Nougat instead). I haven't tried this, but if you have stock recovery, try downgrading to Nougat B19 by using an official SD card update and using apply update from SD card in stock recovery. Haven't found an official SD card update for you but I've only done a little bit of searching.
edit: ive only found B19 Nougat full image , but here: https://mega.nz/#F!kYtRAJjJ!5tD1zPpo0nw2tJwhANA9pQ!tNsQhD5Y
download A2017U-7.1.1-B19-Full-326200B1901A2017UV1.1.0B19.zip and extract it and put update.zip in your sd card. boot into stock recovery and use apply update from sd card and select it. hopefully it works and it will downgrade
Teet1 said:
That guy was horribly wrong and sorry you had to live with an unrooted phone for so long. But in newer versions of Nougat (i think B32 or B35) they removed fastboot and you could not boot into it. I have a way of being able to install TWRP here without fastboot (assuming you're on an Oreo bootstack, otherwise you can do almost everything in that thread except use a TWRP for Nougat instead). I haven't tried this, but if you have stock recovery, try downgrading to Nougat B19 by using an official SD card update and using apply update from SD card in stock recovery. Haven't found an official SD card update for you but I've only done a little bit of searching.
edit: ive only found B19 Nougat full image , but here: https://mega.nz/#F!kYtRAJjJ!5tD1zPpo0nw2tJwhANA9pQ!tNsQhD5Y
download A2017U-7.1.1-B19-Full-326200B1901A2017UV1.1.0B19.zip and extract it and put update.zip in your sd card. boot into stock recovery and use apply update from sd card and select it. hopefully it works and it will downgrade
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Thank you so much for responding.
So I finally went out and bought an sd card yesterday to try this and I am having no luck.
I tried unzipping the file, but it just creates a duplicate zip file so I simply tried installing the whole package.
Wether I try and install via sd card or via sideload/adb I get the same "installation aborted" message.
This is so frustrating. All I want is to root again! I'm trying to get this phone to last me as long as I can before replacing it.
Doing this all on a Mac, fyi. Not sure if that changes things. Since we're not using EDL or Axon7toolkit I assumed it doesn't matter, but there is a lot that I don't know.
Thanks for any help that you're able to provide!
alajoy said:
Thank you so much for responding.
So I finally went out and bought an sd card yesterday to try this and I am having no luck.
I tried unzipping the file, but it just creates a duplicate zip file so I simply tried installing the whole package.
Wether I try and install via sd card or via sideload/adb I get the same "installation aborted" message.
This is so frustrating. All I want is to root again! I'm trying to get this phone to last me as long as I can before replacing it.
Doing this all on a Mac, fyi. Not sure if that changes things. Since we're not using EDL or Axon7toolkit I assumed it doesn't matter, but there is a lot that I don't know.
Thanks for any help that you're able to provide!
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If it's saying that error then it's probably not letting you downgrade.
Also this might be slightly more difficult since you're in a Mac. Can you get access to a windows machine at all? This is why I hate macs
Teet1 said:
If it's saying that error then it's probably not letting you downgrade.
Also this might be slightly more difficult since you're in a Mac. Can you get access to a windows machine at all? This is why I hate macs
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So what would be the reason that it wouldn't let me downgrade?
I've always used a mac and always managed to find an answer. Sure, toolkits don't work, but using fastboot and adb and doing it that way always has. Now suddenly no fastboot and I'm screwed... I don't really have access to a windows pc.
I just find it hard to believe that it's simply not possible on a mac.
alajoy said:
So what would be the reason that it wouldn't let me downgrade?
I've always used a mac and always managed to find an answer. Sure, toolkits don't work, but using fastboot and adb and doing it that way always has. Now suddenly no fastboot and I'm screwed... I don't really have access to a windows pc.
I just find it hard to believe that it's simply not possible on a mac.
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Yeah fastboot screen was removed in newer versions. But that's at a software level of the phone. On your computer, the adb and fastboot commands are universal. It's usable on Mac, Linux and windows. The tools used for the phone like miflash or axon7tool are made for windows though and you kinda need those to fix bricked phones. There's a way to force push the twrp image into the recovery partition via adb but I don't know what the name of the recovery partition is
@alajoy: You can give yourself access to a fake Windows on your Mac. It's called a virtual machine. VirtualBox is one free software that can do this. Pretty easy to use, you install a virtualized Windows that you can boot into. Then you can run all Windows-based tools out there. It's also easy to share a USB port with the VM. Then flashing tools can access it. I run Linux as my main OS on a Sager gaming laptop, this is how I flash my A7 and Samsung phones. It just works, and reliably. I do also have a real Windows 10 installed on a partition on the same PC, but that is only for gaming and I never, ever allow it to connect to the Internet.
@Teet1: The literal name of the recovery partition is exactly that, recovery. And that is what most Android devices call it, regardless of manufacturer. It doesn't matter whether it is TWRP or ZTE stock recovery, the name is the same. It can be accessed via the paths:
/dev/block/platform/soc/624000.ufshc/by-name/recovery
/dev/block/bootdevice/by-name/recovery
/dev/block/sde14
On other devices the path may be different (but the 2nd example above will work for most), but the name is usually the same.
AnonVendetta said:
@alajoy: You can give yourself access to a fake Windows on your Mac. It's called a virtual machine. VirtualBox is one free software that can do this. Pretty easy to use, you install a virtualized Windows that you can boot into. Then you can run all Windows-based tools out there. It's also easy to share a USB port with the VM. Then flashing tools can access it. I run Linux as my main OS on a Sager gaming laptop, this is how I flash my A7 and Samsung phones. It just works, and reliably. I do also have a real Windows 10 installed on a partition on the same PC, but that is only for gaming and I never, ever allow it to connect to the Internet.
@Teet1: The literal name of the recovery partition is exactly that, recovery. And that is what most Android devices call it, regardless of manufacturer. It doesn't matter whether it is TWRP or ZTE stock recovery, the name is the same. It can be accessed via the paths:
/dev/block/platform/soc/624000.ufshc/by-name/recovery
/dev/block/bootdevice/by-name/recovery
/dev/block/sde14
On other devices the path may be different (but the 2nd example above will work for most), but the name is usually the same.
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By name i meant the path, are you sure that's the path for our device? I tried that once and it was not that. Either way he is able to do it
@Teet1: Yeah, I'm sure, but not on all 3 paths. /dev/sde14 may be correct or not, depending on firmware/boot stack that is installed (or the presence of a vendor partition, which might change the paths). But the other 2 should be as I listed.
Just open a root file manager and see for yourself. I use Total Commander, which also shows symbolic links (the one with "bootdevice" in the path is really just a symlink to 624000.ufshc). Getting the recovery path from the example with "bootdevice" in the name should also work on almost any device running Android, and will generally point to the recovery partition. You can see the paths in TWRP too, but TWRP doesn't show symlink (but you should be able to see them if you use the right commands in any terminal, like TWRP's terminal).

Hi all. I'm new to rooting can any one please help and point me to the right tutorial to root a samsung s7

Hi All
Looking for a best tutorial to follow and the right one for my phone really don't want to brick it, obviously :/. as there seems to be a few versions for the S7
I have the following: S7 android 8.0.0 SM-G930F not sure what else I need to know! I'm in the UK so I assume UK phones come with Exynos cpu's
and as far as I am aware android 8 is Oreo! but when they say Stock Rom I assume they mean the same as what came with the phone the original rom?
if so is there an alternative stable rom without the crap included or is it just as simple to delete every thing you don't want now it's rooted! and does that mean if I reset the phone its back to normal with all the crap included! or is there a way to keep it rooted even after reset! and should anything be disabled I.e prepare the phone before attempting to root like any kind of auto encryption that needs disabling and just one more question
if at anytime the rooting process hangs for a ridiculous amount of time when should I throw in the towel! and what are the chances of retrieving the phone back to original state! or does a dirty shutdown brick it?.
I started the root process but failed at first hurdle!, followed instructions install Odin3_v3.13.1 but when I connected the phone nothing showed up in Odin? though I will have another go just to confirm I followed it correctly, I'll update this when it's done.
this was the tutorial I followed:
Easy 4 Newbie [Root Guide]SM-G930F, G935F, G930FD, G935FD (Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge)
Warning ! Please note that the official TWRP for Nougat on Galaxy S7/ S7 Edge is not available yet but based on my experience the Marshmallow version is working on Nougat. By installing a custom recovery on your S7 and S7 Edge and rooting it...
forum.xda-developers.com
I know alot of questions I would really appreciate any help and clarification on the above.
many thanks
Regards
Daz
Look pal, rooting the phone is just like being an adult, it means you will get rid of Samsung's "Child Care".
Yes, UK models use Exynos chip, but you have to be sure, look at your baseband version, if it is G930FXXX, then you are good.
ROMs are in two shapes:
Stock-based: These are just like the one you are using, or other Samsung phones does, like Samsung Experience, One UI, TouchWiz. Maybe MIUI and FlymeOS will come into account, as there are ROMs based on them + Samsung's.
AOSP: These are pure Android ROMs, with few modifications to the core, but keeping the UI as close to the source as possible, Google & OnePlus phones come with a near-to-pure operating systems.
Changing a ROM is not risky, as long as you follow the instructions, without any unaccounted improvising.
Before you install a ROM, read the working and bug list, to make sure you are installing something you have an idea of.
You need to install TWRP recovery (or any other one you like), and format data, in order to be able to travel among ROMs and/or root your device.
Formatting is only required because the phone is forcibly encrypted, and TWRP can not decrypt it, at least not for this device.
Rooting is simply about flashing a 5-MB file, Magisk, then rebooting to system, no need to wipe data.
No need to do any additional steps, unless you are trying to hide root from some apps and/or pass SafetyNet.
Mohamedkam000 said:
Look pal, rooting the phone is just like being an adult, it means you will get rid of Samsung's "Child Care".
Yes, UK models use Exynos chip, but you have to be sure, look at your baseband version, if it is G930FXXX, then you are good.
ROMs are in two shapes:
Stock-based: These are just like the one you are using, or other Samsung phones does, like Samsung Experience, One UI, TouchWiz. Maybe MIUI and FlymeOS will come into account, as there are ROMs based on them + Samsung's.
AOSP: These are pure Android ROMs, with few modifications to the core, but keeping the UI as close to the source as possible, Google & OnePlus phones come with a near-to-pure operating systems.
Changing a ROM is not risky, as long as you follow the instructions, without any unaccounted improvising.
Before you install a ROM, read the working and bug list, to make sure you are installing something you have an idea of.
You need to install TWRP recovery (or any other one you like), and format data, in order to be able to travel among ROMs and/or root your device.
Formatting is only required because the phone is forcibly encrypted, and TWRP can not decrypt it, at least not for this device.
Rooting is simply about flashing a 5-MB file, Magisk, then rebooting to system, no need to wipe data.
No need to do any additional steps, unless you are trying to hide root from some apps and/or pass SafetyNet.
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Hi Mohamedkam000
Thanks for replying. I'm not confused about why I want to root the phone. I'm just trying to understand the inner workings and the risks as I'm not as clued up with phone OS's as I am windows. I don't care about warrantees or hiding the the fact it's rooted I just want a clean rooted phone free of big brother well inside at least I know you will never completely keep them out but making it hard is a start lol.
Thank you very much for all the above especially on clarifying about the roms and the reason TWRP formats due to encryption nice one
My Baseband version slightly different though it's G930FXXU8ETI3 not sure if having a U instead of a third X makes any difference!
and I posted wrong tutorial I'm actually following this one below again not sure if that matters.
Guide How to root Android 8.0 Oreo Stock ROM on Galaxy S7 ( 100% Working )
Hi . i see too many peoples have problem on rooting Android 8.0 Oreo Stock Rom on Galaxy S7 ( edge ) and they cant get passed from the verification field error ! ok its bcuz they do only 1 step wrong , here i just wanna tell you all the steps 1...
forum.xda-developers.com
Again many thanks for clarifying that lot up very informative and much appreciated.
Kind regards
Daz
CitizenSmith said:
Hi Mohamedkam000
Thanks for replying. I'm not confused about why I want to root the phone. I'm just trying to understand the inner workings and the risks as I'm not as clued up with phone OS's as I am windows. I don't care about warrantees or hiding the the fact it's rooted I just want a clean rooted phone free of big brother well inside at least I know you will never completely keep them out but making it hard is a start lol.
Thank you very much for all the above especially on clarifying about the roms and the reason TWRP formats due to encryption nice one
My Baseband version slightly different though it's G930FXXU8ETI3 not sure if having a U instead of a third X makes any difference!
and I posted wrong tutorial I'm actually following this one below again not sure if that matters.
Guide How to root Android 8.0 Oreo Stock ROM on Galaxy S7 ( 100% Working )
Hi . i see too many peoples have problem on rooting Android 8.0 Oreo Stock Rom on Galaxy S7 ( edge ) and they cant get passed from the verification field error ! ok its bcuz they do only 1 step wrong , here i just wanna tell you all the steps 1...
forum.xda-developers.com
Again many thanks for clarifying that lot up very informative and much appreciated.
Kind regards
Daz
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It doesn't matter which version of Android you are using, root is the same.
However, on stock ROMs, it might sometimes get rough, as you may end up with Wi-Fi not working (happened to me Q1 2020).
If you really want to learn how Android OS works, then rooting the stock ROM is not your way.
Try AOSP ROMs, preferably start with Oreo ones, you can root in 3 common way, LineageOS SU Add-on, Magisk, Super SU.
But before you tickle your phone, you have to make a backup of your current device, of every partition, EFS is the most important partition, so make sure it is safe.
Baseband version doesn't matter a lot, unless you're paranoid with updates, it is sorted alphabetically, each string on its own.
The phone is more similar to a linux machine than to a Windows PC.
Edit: To root stock ROM, you have to flash dm verity, so you don't end up encrypted again.
Mohamedkam000 said:
It doesn't matter which version of Android you are using, root is the same.
However, on stock ROMs, it might sometimes get rough, as you may end up with Wi-Fi not working (happened to me Q1 2020).
If you really want to learn how Android OS works, then rooting the stock ROM is not your way.
Try AOSP ROMs, preferably start with Oreo ones, you can root in 3 common way, LineageOS SU Add-on, Magisk, Super SU.
But before you tickle your phone, you have to make a backup of your current device, of every partition, EFS is the most important partition, so make sure it is safe.
Baseband version doesn't matter a lot, unless you're paranoid with updates, it is sorted alphabetically, each string on its own.
The phone is more similar to a linux machine than to a Windows PC.
Edit: To root stock ROM, you have to flash dm verity, so you don't end up encrypted again.
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Thanks again for clearing quite a few things up I thought rooting stock rom would have been far safer way forward wow how wrong was I! but I guess I am just trying to find any kind simile to windows in any way but as you pointed out again it's more like Linux which again I've only played around with ubuntu and mint for a short period so again not to up on Linux lol.
It's funny I was just reading up on AOSP ROMs then got your message. I see they have a stable but not complete! Android 10 not that I would consider it need as I need a stable OS so Oreo is fine for me.
I have backed up phone using Smart Switch on the PC I assume that copy's every thing that's needed, I reset the phone in anticipation all be it prematurely but at least it restored all my data so if anything that was a good test of the back up at least .
I will have look at some AOSP ROMs and see what's involved there, I'll check out their tutorial hopefully it will include the whole process including root.
I gather by your comment using a AOSP ROM you don't need to use dm-verity or will that still be needed!.
The first thing to do is to flash (install) TWRP, it's a custom recovery (think of it as a mini OS that can boot before Android), that will be the base for any of your future tinkering.
Here is the thread, read the FP carefully: [Recovery][Exynos] Official TWRP for Galaxy S7 (herolte)
Once TWRP installed, you can do many things:
Install addons like Magisk. Magisk is the tool you use to obtain root. Forget SuperSU, its outdated, and don't works in modern versions of Android.
Install a custom ROM (this subforum is the perfect place to find them).
Backup & restore an image of your current ROM (very useful).
mooms said:
The first thing to do is to flash (install) TWRP, it's a custom recovery (think of it as a mini OS that can boot before Android), that will be the base for any of your future tinkering.
Here is the thread, read the FP carefully: [Recovery][Exynos] Official TWRP for Galaxy S7 (herolte)
Once TWRP installed, you can do many things:
Install addons like Magisk. Magisk is the tool you use to obtain root. Forget SuperSU, its outdated, and don't works in modern versions of Android.
Install a custom ROM (this subforum is the perfect place to find them).
Backup & restore an image of your current ROM (very useful).
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Thanks Mooms for the input
I tried to follow your links tutorial which he gives three options only one is any good to me and that was installing twrp using Odin but I'm having issues at every turn!. I can't even get Odin to recognise my phone it just wont pick it up I have Samsung driver installed and I have reinstalled many times I found an article claim to have a workaround but that was BS just selling some other app I even change the driver as described on there page,
7 Tips to Fix Odin Not Detecting Phone
Are you using Odin flash tool to flash your Samsung phone but it is not recognized by Odin? Here are 7 tips to fix Odin not detecting phone.
www.imyfone.com
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but that did nothing so reinstall normal driver again.
feels like it's just not meant to be :/
Thanks again.
CitizenSmith said:
Thanks again for clearing quite a few things up I thought rooting stock rom would have been far safer way forward wow how wrong was I! but I guess I am just trying to find any kind simile to windows in any way but as you pointed out again it's more like Linux which again I've only played around with ubuntu and mint for a short period so again not to up on Linux lol.
It's funny I was just reading up on AOSP ROMs then got your message. I see they have a stable but not complete! Android 10 not that I would consider it need as I need a stable OS so Oreo is fine for me.
I have backed up phone using Smart Switch on the PC I assume that copy's every thing that's needed, I reset the phone in anticipation all be it prematurely but at least it restored all my data so if anything that was a good test of the back up at least .
I will have look at some AOSP ROMs and see what's involved there, I'll check out their tutorial hopefully it will include the whole process including root.
I gather by your comment using a AOSP ROM you don't need to use dm-verity or will that still be needed!.
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AOSP ROMs are pure, you can't say they are not complete. They are complete, and what OEMs do, like Samsung and Xiaomi is just a customization that you can do, too.
It is preferred that when you take a backup, take it with TWRP, just to ensure you backed up phone's partitions, along with "EFS".
The root procedure on Android 6+ is done by patching the Kernel (boot.img), so unless you take backup of that, you cannot keep root.
There are stable custom ROMs, custom ROMs are meant for custom adjustments, however the stability depends on your phone, and the way you use it, you can compare AOSP vs. Stock and see the difference.
AOSP ROMs doesn't need dm verity, well, at least not if the developer did not mention the encryption part.
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AOSP ROMs are pure, you can't say they are not complete. They are complete, and what OEMs do, like Samsung and Xiaomi is just a customization that you can do, too.
It is preferred that when you take a backup, take it with TWRP, just to ensure you backed up phone's partitions, along with "EFS".
The root procedure on Android 6+ is done by patching the Kernel (boot.img), so unless you take backup of that, you cannot keep root.
There are stable custom ROMs, custom ROMs are meant for custom adjustments, however the stability depends on your phone, and the way you use it, you can compare AOSP vs. Stock and see the difference.
AOSP ROMs doesn't need dm verity, well, at least not if the developer did not mention the encryption part.
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Some of the roms I have looked at mention external touch buttons at bottom of phone do not work or something else in the phone I'm just reading their comments.
I understand about the stock & custom rom's now that's not my problem at least not at the moment as I am miles away from choosing a rom! as I can't even get out the starting gate!. I can not get TWRP on my phone as the only way I can see to get it on a unrooted! phone is to use Odin but as I said Odin doesn't work at least not for me it does not see my phone. I would love to take a back up using twrp but that won't happen until I find a way to get TWRP on a unrooted phone. what crazy paradox is this!. you can't root phone without twrp installed and twrp won't install on a unrooted phone!. that makes perfect sense.
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Some of the roms I have looked at mention external touch buttons at bottom of phone do not work or something else in the phone I'm just reading their comments.
I understand about the stock & custom rom's now that's not my problem at least not at the moment as I am miles away from choosing a rom! as I can't even get out the starting gate!. I can not get TWRP on my phone as the only way I can see to get it on a unrooted! phone is to use Odin but as I said Odin doesn't work at least not for me it does not see my phone. I would love to take a back up using twrp but that won't happen until I find a way to get TWRP on a unrooted phone. what crazy paradox is this!. you can't root phone without twrp installed and twrp won't install on a unrooted phone!. that makes perfect sense.
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Does your phone allow MTP communication? I mean can you transfer files when the phone is turned on?
Does the phone show any notification about a usb connection?
If not, then you have probably a bad USB cable, at least, or you have a hardware issue that can go as deep as a burned charging port.
If yes, then either your USB cable is not as fast as the phone requires, or you haven't installed the Samsung USB Drivers on your PC.
Unfortunately, you cannot root your device without PC, at least not since Lollipop.
CitizenSmith said:
Thanks Mooms for the input
I tried to follow your links tutorial which he gives three options only one is any good to me and that was installing twrp using Odin but I'm having issues at every turn!. I can't even get Odin to recognise my phone it just wont pick it up I have Samsung driver installed and I have reinstalled many times I found an article claim to have a workaround but that was BS just selling some other app I even change the driver as described on there page,
7 Tips to Fix Odin Not Detecting Phone
Are you using Odin flash tool to flash your Samsung phone but it is not recognized by Odin? Here are 7 tips to fix Odin not detecting phone.
www.imyfone.com
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but that did nothing so reinstall normal driver again.
feels like it's just not meant to be :/
Thanks again.
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Which version of Odin are you using ?
Use this version (latest): Odin v3.14.4
Which version of the Samsung USB drivers are you using ?
Use this version (latest): https://developer.samsung.com/mobile/android-usb-driver.html
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Does your phone allow MTP communication? I mean can you transfer files when the phone is turned on?
Does the phone show any notification about a usb connection?
If not, then you have probably a bad USB cable, at least, or you have a hardware issue that can go as deep as a burned charging port.
If yes, then either your USB cable is not as fast as the phone requires, or you haven't installed the Samsung USB Drivers on your PC.
Unfortunately, you cannot root your device without PC, at least not since Lollipop.
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Hi
Yes I can transfer files.
Yes phone asks to allow or block file transfer and it ohone shows up in Devices and Drives list and I can access the phone directory and shows up as Samsung s7 icon.
I will try another USB lead but the one I'm using is new and wasn't cheap but still a possibility I have had leads that weren't suitable for other things I was trying so it is worth a try.
Thanks
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Which version of Odin are you using ?
Use this version (latest): Odin v3.14.4
Which version of the Samsung USB drivers are you using ?
Use this version (latest): https://developer.samsung.com/mobile/android-usb-driver.html
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When I downloaded Odin this was latest one Odin3_v3.13.1 though I have doubts that one version update will fix this issue as I did not see many if any people having my issue so they all used Odin and I believe theirs are fine even with older versions! but as I said Mohamedkam it's worth a try I will down load that version and give it a try.
As for the Samsung usb driver I believe that is where I got mine
SAMSUNG_USB_Driver_for_Mobile_Phones no version visible under properties on file version 1.7.23.0.
The USB connection seems to be fine I have uninstalled then re-download and reinstalled a couple of times.
I can transfer files no problem it shows up as Galaxy S7 Icon with card and phone drive inside.
I'll update shortly thank you.
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I just went to try new Odin and whilst checking my phone have seen I have Offical TWRP app installed? I have no clue as to how that's got in there! as Odin did not show phone so I could select nothing!.
In the phone I open app and if i select backup existing recovery it opens and Select Folder tab and under that Selected Folder: /sdcard Filename: Recovery .img and at the bottom of screen Root access required.
I just hope it's installed correctly!. it is showing in playstore my apps as well just to confirm. if this is now installed what should I do next Now not sure what tutorial to start following.
I am just going to try the new odin and see if it picks up the phone back soon.
OK Seem that it now shows up in the new Odin. at least I think it has! in the log window I see this: <ID:0/004> Added!!
I didn't see that before.
Would be grateful if you could tell me how to proceed from here!
Correct, you don't need he latst version of Odin or the Samsung drivers, bit it was just to be sure.
You need to be in download mode, but before, you must have checked OEM unlock & USB debug in developer options (mandatory).
I've written a tutorial with images here (in French):
Samsung Galaxy S7 (edge) - Mangez un Oreo! [Topic Unique] - Page : 487 - Téléphone Android - Technologies Mobiles - FORUM HardWare.fr
mooms said:
Correct, you don't need he latst version of Odin or the Samsung drivers, bit it was just to be sure.
You need to be in download mode, but before, you must have checked OEM unlock & USB debug in developer options (mandatory).
I've written a tutorial with images here (in French):
Samsung Galaxy S7 (edge) - Mangez un Oreo! [Topic Unique] - Page : 487 - Téléphone Android - Technologies Mobiles - FORUM HardWare.fr
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As I said the older version did not show any kind of data what's so ever and the phone was in download mode. phone displayed "Downloading" which I believe it says that even if it's not doing anything! so a tutorial explained. I think it must have installed the Official TWRP app even though phone did not show up in Odin everything was blank however when I installed the new version of Odin like you suggested it then showed up as <ID:0/004> Added!!. so your suggestion work thanks for that and I did enable OEM unlock & USB debug I did long time ago.
I would check out your tutorial but unfortunately I don't speak French and translating instructions is too risky but thank you for the offer but I'll carry on look around still undecided on what custom rom to go for as I said some comments point out small issues and the developers also state certain things are not working so that is making it hard to consider one if you know what I mean.
Again Thank you for your input very much appreciated.
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As I said the older version did not show any kind of data what's so ever and the phone was in download mode. phone displayed "Downloading" which I believe it says that even if it's not doing anything! so a tutorial explained. I think it must have installed the Official TWRP app even though phone did not show up in Odin everything was blank however when I installed the new version of Odin like you suggested it then showed up as <ID:0/004> Added!!. so your suggestion work thanks for that and I did enable OEM unlock & USB debug I did long time ago.
I would check out your tutorial but unfortunately I don't speak French and translating instructions is too risky but thank you for the offer but I'll carry on look around still undecided on what custom rom to go for as I said some comments point out small issues and the developers also state certain things are not working so that is making it hard to consider one if you know what I mean.
Again Thank you for your input very much appreciated.
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Take a note that, when you flash TWRP, you have to boot immediately to the recovery, so as to enforce its existence, cause I remember they phone has an original recovery backed up somewhere, and gets triggered when you reboot directly to system instead of the unofficial binary.
I advise you to watch guides on YouTube, it's more .. understandable.
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still undecided on what custom rom to go for as I said some comments point out small issues and the developers also state certain things are not working so that is making it hard to consider one if you know what I mean.
Again Thank you for your input very much appreciated.
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I recommend to go with ALEXNDR ROM: zero bugs, everything works perfectly (it's based on stock ROM).
[ROM][G930F/FD][ALEXNDR] * U8EUE1 * DevBase v7.4 * Encryption support [Jul-10]
Important notes for Developers / Chefs !!! This ROM is NOT based on any other custom ROM. My work contains many original ideas and innovations that I introduced as the first in the ROM development (see "Changelist" in post #2). Of course, it...
forum.xda-developers.com
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Take a note that, when you flash TWRP, you have to boot immediately to the recovery, so as to enforce its existence, cause I remember they phone has an original recovery backed up somewhere, and gets triggered when you reboot directly to system instead of the unofficial binary.
I advise you to watch guides on YouTube, it's more .. understandable.
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Yer I read that but I've ended up with TWRP installed and did not do that process because I was unaware it installed until it showed up.
As I said I'll just keep looking for now I know I'll find one that works for me from start to finish.
and I've been checking youtube but wouldn't want to use any links their providing but it may help familurise myself with the whole process if i watch enough of them.
Thanks again for your help.
mooms said:
I recommend to go with ALEXNDR ROM: zero bugs, everything works perfectly (it's based on stock ROM).
[ROM][G930F/FD][ALEXNDR] * U8EUE1 * DevBase v7.4 * Encryption support [Jul-10]
Important notes for Developers / Chefs !!! This ROM is NOT based on any other custom ROM. My work contains many original ideas and innovations that I introduced as the first in the ROM development (see "Changelist" in post #2). Of course, it...
forum.xda-developers.com
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Hi Mooms
I will check that out many thanks. I wonder if you could help me here. I am in the middle of the rooting process but have hit a snag. again!
I have now installed TWRP successfully then no-verity-opt-encrypt-3.1 all went fine and I'm at point of flashing Magisk but have an issue when I swipe to flash is gives me a error in red saying "invalid zip file format !"
I downloaded it from github here.
GitHub - topjohnwu/Magisk: The Magic Mask for Android
The Magic Mask for Android. Contribute to topjohnwu/Magisk development by creating an account on GitHub.
github.com
I click on "code" tab and then "download zip" and I placed that in a download folder on my sd card when I select it I get the above error any ideas as to why I am getting this am I downloaded the correct file?
thanks for any assistance you could give.

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