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Hooking up a USB Hardisk to the HTC Universal

Hi People!
Is it Yes or Not possible to hook up a USB hardisk to the HTC Universal (providing the hard disk is powered externaly) to exchange file between the Universla and the Hardisk?

No

I'm sure some day there'll be a way, but dont hold your breath...

So does it have USB host? I thought the previous conclusion was that it didn't come enabled after all?
Why do you want to hook up a drive anyhow? What's wrong with a UNC connection over WiFi?

Why not use a 4GB SD card?

Hi
i use my Toshiba e800 as storage transfer solution of my pictures.
I connect an 80GB usb hardrive to the toshiba and insert my 2gb lexar memories on the CF slot for backup photos on hollidays ....
The issue is ? thoes the universal have usb host function ????

fcaeiro said:
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The issue is ? thoes the universal have usb host function ????
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No they don't.
We all hope it's just a matter of OS/Drivers and maybe a day in the future an update will give Universal usb host capability.
Roberto

Forget it. Only the CPU supports the USB Host feature. HTC chose not to include the neccessary remaining hardware on the device's mainboard, hence something a driver can never cure.

What about an SDIO USB host? Possible? Do they exist already?

Buy a laptop if you need that much space. This isn't a PC, it is a phone with PDA functionality. Show me any other PDA you can do this to? You can't.

saldous said:
Buy a laptop if you need that much space. This isn't a PC, it is a phone with PDA functionality. Show me any other PDA you can do this to? You can't.
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Toshiba 740
Toshiba E800
Toshiba E830
Asus (several models)
Siemens Pocket loox
And several other i don't know by head....

for me it will be the nicest thing in order to use the digicam as a usb drive in order to copy/send pictures

xiasma said:
What about an SDIO USB host? Possible? Do they exist already?
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That's what I was alluding to earlier, shouldn't be too long before they're available, I read about them on some website a couple of months ago but I can't find the flippin' link now.
Can't honestly say I'd use that much memory though, 2Gb is enough for me for the forseeable future.

when comparing mb / £ a HDD is the only real solution so far,
especially if you want vga res videos running. SD cards are good but only having 1-4 movies on a 2gb card becomes a pain.
i use a 2.5" hdd in a caddy hardly bigger than the drive, its only a 10gb drive atm as it is all that was avaliable "freely" :wink: , but it is WAY WAY WAY handier than a handful of SD's to ship data around
hdd usb conectivity would only be an interim step in the right direction, when 40gb+ SD type cards are mainstream and can be housed in the universal without ever needing to swap to your "videos" sd or your "music" sd or your "data" sd, then we are approaching the ideal situation.
but we wont get there until the basics are met first.

Photographers, Backing up Pictures from SLR (or card reader) to USB HDD?

I picked up a gtab and want to use it while on vacation or backup the photos from my SLR's compactflash memory cards to a portable hard drive. Is this possible?
Basically it would be the usb adapter, then USB hub, with a compactflash (or SD) memory card reader and usb hdd off of it.
Anyone who has tried this, can you comment on the speed of transfer? The RAW images are around 30mb each and I have a 16gb and 2x 8gb memory cards.

Here's my method... I have a Canon 40D.
1. Like it or not the world revolves around SD, not Compact Flash. So, don't use Compact Flash, use SD memory. Buy an adapter here and then you need only ever use SD cards going forward.
2. You can load your photos onto your TAB using Samsung's USB adapter for the TAB. Plug in an USB based SD card reader into the TAB and suck all the pictures off the SD card.
3. Get a Microsoft Live account. It's free. Along with the Microsoft Live account you get a free 25GB "Sky Drive" to store whatever you want.
4. Go to the marketplace and search for Sky Drive. There are a couple of apps there that will let you move files from your tab to the Sky Drive.
If you need more than 25GB of space then you can do this to free up space on the Sky Drive...
1. Put Microsoft Live on one of the computers in your home.
2. Put the free version of Logmein on your home PC.
3. Buy and install Logmein Ignition for the Tab.
4. Log into your home computer from the Tab via Logmein and move the files from the Sky Drive to your home PC.
You might be able to create a script to move the files from Sky Drive to the PC automatically, thus saving you the purchase of Logmein Ignition.

I am a Pro, and I wish the Pro world revolved around SD, but current generation Nikons are all CF.
Having said that, I have read some people being able to mount portable HDDs with rooted Transformer and Iconia and have access to the full capacity of the drive. But, they also have a full USB port built in.
The Market App is: https://market.android.com/details?id=au.dach.drivemount

TabGuy said:
1. Like it or not the world revolves around SD, not Compact Flash. So, don't use Compact Flash
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I stopped reading after this. ALL Pro bodies use compact flash. They have higher capacities, and are more resilient to damage than SD. This will never change. Anyone saying SD is better than CF doesn't know their Aperture size from their shutter speed.

evanrich said:
I stopped reading after this. ALL Pro bodies use compact flash. They have higher capacities, and are more resilient to damage than SD. This will never change. Anyone saying SD is better than CF doesn't know their Aperture size from their shutter speed.
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You are correct, I'm not a pro photographer. However, I've shot over 40,000 photos on my 40D ALL on SD without ever a single SD failure. I'd say that's a pretty good track record.
The world does revolve around SD. It's the vast majority and the most compatible. It rules the market the way Windows rules the PC operating systems.
Is it better? I don't know. I didn't say one way or the other. To paraphrase your post: A person that thinks I said that SD was better than Compact Flash doesn't know their verbs from their nouns.
It's simply more convenient, cheaper, and in almost all cases just as safe. Maybe, back in the early days of SD it was prone to more failure but living in the past is no way to be successful in the future.

For the time being I can't move away from compactflash. When I get a new camera in a few years, I'll see what camera floats my boat then. Please keep this on compactflash since that's what I have now Although, I do appreciate the suggestions. I am not a "pro" photographer (actually an engineer). But, it is one of my favorite hobbies.
When I travel to other countries, I usually either don't have access to wifi or I don't have access to fast enough wifi to upload the pictures to a cloud drive. I really need to be able to plug in the card reader AND the hdd at once (since the gtab doesn't have enough internal space for my pic backups). I haven't seen anyone post in the forums yet that they confirmed you can access 2 drives (reader and hdd) simultaneously to copy between then
If I can find a usb adapter at best buy and a powered hub I'll try it. Supposed I can take them back if it doesn't work. Just hoping someone already tried it and could tell me which hub/cardreader/etc to get to save some hassle of swapping out a few hubs/card readers.

TabGuy said:
You are correct, I'm not a pro photographer. However, I've shot over 40,000 photos on my 40D ALL on SD without ever a single SD failure. I'd say that's a pretty good track record.
The world does revolve around SD. It's the vast majority and the most compatible. It rules the market the way Windows rules the PC operating systems.
Is it better? I don't know. I didn't say one way or the other. To paraphrase your post: A person that thinks I said that SD was better than Compact Flash doesn't know their verbs from their nouns.
It's simply more convenient, cheaper, and in almost all cases just as safe. Maybe, back in the early days of SD it was prone to more failure but living in the past is no way to be successful in the future.
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I wasn't implying SD cards would fail, as I have an SD card in my pocket camera I use when I don't want to take a Large Body/Lens set with me. I wasn't necessarily implying that SD cards fail, more that due to their thinness, they could snap, warp, etc. Also, as CF cards have a much more rigid body, they're more resilient in a disaster case. Ever tossed a memory card through the washer/Dryer? Run over it with a car? CF cards can stand a lot of abuse.
The one nice feature of SD cards that I wish CF cards had is the write protect switch. I have a memory card holder for my CF cards that has colored tabs you can use to tell if they're full or not, but a Write protect switch would be kinda nice.
A few years ago, SD cards were extremely expensive, compared to CF for GB to GB comparison. Today, the price gap is much much narrower, in some cases SD is cheaper than CF (although usually slower in terms of read/write speeds)
Both formats have their place. I don't discount SD, nor do i imply you're wrong in any way for using them, as I have a number of devices that use them, but CF also has it's place, in the professional world where photographers require the utmost performance and reliability from their memory devices.
On a side note, my company produces industrialized standalone computers that are remotely deployed on telephone and light poles in Pakistan to collect RFID tags on shipments bound for Afghanistan. These devices run solely on CF cards as well due to their durability.

adamjt said:
I picked up a gtab and want to use it while on vacation or backup the photos from my SLR's compactflash memory cards to a portable hard drive. Is this possible?
Basically it would be the usb adapter, then USB hub, with a compactflash (or SD) memory card reader and usb hdd off of it.
Anyone who has tried this, can you comment on the speed of transfer? The RAW images are around 30mb each and I have a 16gb and 2x 8gb memory cards.
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30MB! You must have 5DII, 1DMKx or D3X? Anywho, like mentioned, the best bet would try a usb hub

adamjt said:
I picked up a gtab and want to use it while on vacation or backup the photos from my SLR's compactflash memory cards to a portable hard drive. Is this possible?
Basically it would be the usb adapter, then USB hub, with a compactflash (or SD) memory card reader and usb hdd off of it.
Anyone who has tried this, can you comment on the speed of transfer? The RAW images are around 30mb each and I have a 16gb and 2x 8gb memory cards.
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You'd have probably been better off buying one of those portable image transfer drives...they're made for this exact purpose. Take a memory card, plug it in, hit copy. They're only like 100-150 or so, much cheaper than a tablet.
http://www.amazon.com/Nikon-MSV-01-Coolwalker-Digital-Storage/dp/B0006283AG
http://www.digitalfoci.com/media_buddy_selection.html
http://www.amazon.com/PicPac-Memory-Reader-Storage-7632/dp/B003QP49NA/ref=dp_cp_ob_p_title_2

Limited Storage

How are you guys getting around the limited storage/lack of expandable memory issue? I'm thinking of picking up a goflex satellite wireless drive to store high def movies there to watch over wifi on short trips but not sure how it actually interacts and if i will run into any issues with the vids

I bought a 2tb western digital my book live to store movies and music and use the wd2go app to stream to my tab 10.1. Its working well so far.
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I bought a 2tb western digital my book live to store movies and music and use the wd2go app to stream to my tab 10.1. Its working well so far.
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even when you're out on the road and stream high def vids?

Mainly Amazon MP3 has been a life saver.
When you sign up you get 5GB of free storage. However when you buy any album thru Amazon MP3 you get upgraded to unlimited music storage and 20GB of storage for other media/files. I was able to upgrade when Lady Gaga's album was $.99 on release day.
That has solved alot of my music storage issues. Also with Netflix working on the device, I have ALOT of content to watch.
I'm still working on a way to take more videos with me, I'm really hoping that when I get my 30-pin to USB adapter that you can use Mass Storage devices with it since I usually have to carry around 2 500GB HDDs with me for school anyway.

Jamieson555 said:
Mainly Amazon MP3 has been a life saver.
When you sign up you get 5GB of free storage. However when you buy any album thru Amazon MP3 you get upgraded to unlimited music storage and 20GB of storage for other media/files. I was able to upgrade when Lady Gaga's album was $.99 on release day.
That has solved alot of my music storage issues. Also with Netflix working on the device, I have ALOT of content to watch.
I'm still working on a way to take more videos with me, I'm really hoping that when I get my 30-pin to USB adapter that you can use Mass Storage devices with it since I usually have to carry around 2 500GB HDDs with me for school anyway.
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i saw a youtube video where a guy tried this with an external hdd. sadly, the tab rejects it because it is a "high power usb device". it cant supply enough power to it i suppose.... :-(
but usb stick etc work fine, they are getting pretty big too these days. and i think an external ssd should work too...

js931 said:
i saw a youtube video where a guy tried this with an external hdd. sadly, the tab rejects it because it is a "high power usb device". it cant supply enough power to it i suppose.... :-(
but usb stick etc work fine, they are getting pretty big too these days. and i think an external ssd should work too...
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Thankfully I might not have that issue.
Both the HDDs I take to school has an optional hook up for external power, just in case you aren't able to get power from the USB/Firewire Port.

Man i was hoping at least one person in here has used the seagate's battery powered wifi external harddrive and can comment on the compatibility between the tab and video support

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even when you're out on the road and stream high def vids?
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Using wifi hotspots yes, but I only have a wifi unit. I havent tried by tethering my SGS2 and using H or 3G, will have to test that one out.

I only have a 16gb GT, only put a few playlists from iTunes on it and put the rest of my music on Google Music and Amazon Cloud Player. I then ripped some movies and put them on the tab, about 5 movies.
Half of my storage is now gone, maybe a little more than half. It is going to have to come down to movie/video management to keep space open on the GT.
Google/Amazon cloud music is awesome for your entire collection and just leaving a playlist or two on your GT.
For long trips you could add and remove videos by using the USB adapter.

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Using wifi hotspots yes, but I only have a wifi unit. I havent tried by tethering my SGS2 and using H or 3G, will have to test that one out.
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Outside of LTE based service, i can't see this happening with HD videos.

You need to buy the 32gig version for starters. Then get music and docs in the cloud so you have all the internal space open for movies. Then get a cloud storage service so when you get back to your room at night you can watch movies, erase the ones you've watched, and download more from your cloud drive. Basic storage management is all its going to take. Or you could take a laptop and hook it up to the tab at night and do the above process. Last I checked this tab is not meant to be a portable Hi-Def surround sound movie theater. They might market it like that (I haven't seen it) but its meant to watch home movies, view pictures, Google+, browse the web, use apps, and listen to some music.

I am waiting for the USB adapter comes out (I am not confident enough in my soldering to doctor one up as shown in another thread), and then I'll just attach the SD Reader I already have, and buy some SD cards.
In all, SD cards are much smaller than the goFlex drive, and don't need any battery, charging, or whatever. The drawback is of course cost - about $50 per 32gb SD card (so 512gb = $800 or so (16 x 32gb), as opposed to $200 for the goFlex 500gb) - so it more matters what you consider more valuable - smaller carry size and 0 extra power requirements, or a that can carry everything, but that is larger, and requires charging or a power source.

Get the USB adapter and a handful of cheap 8GB flash drives. It's hacky, but if you're not able to access cloud-based storage then it should suffice. You can get those postage stamp sized drives for about $10 now. Watching a movie with the adapter plugged in might not be all that good, so just use the file manager to copy from the USB drives to the Tab as needed.

ph00ny said:
How are you guys getting around the limited storage/lack of expandable memory issue? I'm thinking of picking up a goflex satellite wireless drive to store high def movies there to watch over wifi on short trips but not sure how it actually interacts and if i will run into any issues with the vids
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I'm curious about Seagates GoFlex Satellite wifi drive also but I can't find one at a nearby store to buy & test out.

sounds like a nice drive from what i read about it, but just another device to have powered up
get camera connection kit, and buy a couple 16GB thumb-sticks.

It also means you can't connect to the internet while connected to the Seagate WiFi drive. Which seriously limits your multitasking capabilities.

Got a USB Host adapter yesterday
I tried connecting a powered external hard drive to the GT USB adapter today and it didn't work. I tried xFAT and NTFS disk formats but it wasn't having any of it. It either complained of a corrupted USB drive or an empty one, even though it wasn't empty or corrupt. Thumbdrives and sd cards in an adapter work fine though. I plugged a mouse in too to check it out and it worked great. I just ordered a 32 gig SD to use with it. ~60 gig of available content is pretty decent.

majkeli said:
I tried connecting a powered external hard drive to the GT USB adapter today and it didn't work. I tried xFAT and NTFS disk formats but it wasn't having any of it. It either complained of a corrupted USB drive or an empty one, even though it wasn't empty or corrupt. Thumbdrives and sd cards in an adapter work fine though. I plugged a mouse in too to check it out and it worked great. I just ordered a 32 gig SD to use with it. ~60 gig of available content is pretty decent.
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i think u need FAT32, honeycomb doesnt work with NTFS etc...

js931 said:
i think u need FAT32, honeycomb doesnt work with NTFS etc...
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Honeycomb is doing fine with NTFS on the Transformer. I tried it 5 times with 5 different Drives and Sticks and they all are working very well.
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I'm still waiting for Google Music to be released in the UK so I can upload my 30gb of music. However we have had Spotify for years, coupled with my free premium account and "all you can eat phone data" i have made a lot of playlist that I just stream them to the phone and tab.

[Q] Hard Drives & MicroSD

1. What format does the drive need to be to be read by the MOJO?
At the time of this writing: Hard drives need to be NTSC. They are mounted as READ ONLY, so you will not be able to save files. Bummer.
2. Same question, except for a 64GB MicroSDXC format...?
At the time of this writing: microSD must be formatted as FAT32 with 32K cluster size. They need to be set as a PRIMARY drive rather than LOGICAL.

1. NTFS or FAT32 usb 2.0 HDs work. I've tried USB 3.0 HDs and so far those haven't worked
2. I havn't tested a 64gig micro sd but most Android devices only recognize up to 32GB sd cards.

I've got a 64GB in my A700 and it works fine as FAT32. The CM ROMS have issue with it, however. Also, according to the MadCatz website: "For those of you who need more, there’s a microSD flash slot to accommodate SDXC cards up to 128GB!"
What format is your MicroSD?

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I've got a 64GB in my A700 and it works fine as FAT32. The CM ROMS have issue with it, however. Also, according to the MadCatz website: "For those of you who need more, there’s a microSD flash slot to accommodate SDXC cards up to 128GB!"
What format is your MicroSD?
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I'm using a 64gb micro sd, format FAT. Works great.

Try exFat. It's the "standard" format for SDXC type cards and unlike Fat32 you're not limited to files less than 4 gigs in size. It's the format i use on my Galaxy Note 10.1 (last year's model). It should come in exFat anyway.
Or the simplest solution would be to rip open the packaging, stick it in the MOJO and if it tells you it needs to be formatted format it. That way it's in whatever format the MOJO prefers and your pc/laptop in all likelihood will recognise the format.
Also I'm guessing you're just going to leave it in there most of the time. To avoid card readers and sync cables I normally use FTPServer on my phone and tablet and the filezilla client on the pc, and to transfer stuff to the network drive I use the android ftp client andftp (there are file explorers like ES Explorer which can handle samba connections and FTP connections but I find they're a bit slower).
Avoid NTFS on flash media. From what I've been told it uses too many read/writes which isbad for flash media due to their limited write cycles.

Yeah, I didn't even think about formatting until after I had loaded my card down with movies and music and games....exFat = Nope.
Found this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=48943761&postcount=5
FAT32.
Time to backup and reformat.

ExtremeRyno said:
Yeah, I didn't even think about formatting until after I had loaded my card down with movies and music and games....exFat = Nope.
Found this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=48943761&postcount=5
FAT32.
Time to backup and reformat.
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No ExFat support? Wow. Mad Catz put NO effort into the software of this device, did they. Just using the stock OS without bothering to add in bluetooth 4.0 support and just throwing in a dongle to compensate (various phone providers, i.e. HTC have a history of providing a better than stock bluetooth stack), no camera support, no exFat support (this just makes them cheapskates since they just needed to license it crom Microsoft like the phone makers that provide it on their phones and tablets).
I still have time to decide. I was planning on buying it on amazon, sending it to a friend and then having them bring it when they visited in order to avoid the overpriced shipping and import fees but I'm starting to think I'd be better off with a cheap quadcore A15 device with an SoC like the A80 from allwinner and a Moga controller. It would be cheaper, have better play store support and be more versatile from what I'm reading on here...
Considering how little effort they've put into the software I wouldn't be surprised if they never got around to the KitKat upgrade. Companies who put more effort into the OS often fail whdn it comes to promised upgrades. And if Mad Catz never upgrades the OS it means users are limited to just ONE USB port which seriously cuts dow on usability.

Wait, are you saying you can only use one usb port at a time because of the OS version?

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Wait, are you saying you can only use one usb port at a time because of the OS version?
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yes beacause if there's no update to kitkat the BT smart dongle is in one already and will have to stay there.
I think it will come out, they have said it would a few times now. so just a matter of when.
yip I tested mine, no exFat support... a bit of a shame

Buy an USB Hub.
You can use hdd with ntfs should be much better then exfat.
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Wait, are you saying you can only use one usb port at a time because of the OS version?
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At this time- the controller requires a dongle which takes up one of the usb slots.
You are left with the micro SD slot and the usb 3.0 slot.
When the Kitkat update arrives, you will be able to remove the dongle and have the usb 2.0 slot available.
The usb's will probably be obsolete soon anyway- seeing as PC streaming is coming in the kitkat update.
The point of mojo is to do everything via bluetooth and wifi.
That's the beauty of the machine.

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At this time- the controller requires a dongle which takes up one of the usb slots.
You are left with the micro SD slot and the usb 3.0 slot.
When the Kitkat update arrives, you will be able to remove the dongle and have the usb 2.0 slot available.
The usb's will probably be obsolete soon anyway- seeing as PC streaming is coming in the kitkat update.
The point of mojo is to do everything via bluetooth and wifi.
That's the beauty of the machine.
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What do you mean by "The usb's will probably be obsolete soon anyway- seeing as PC streaming is coming in the kitkat update. "?

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What do you mean by "The usb's will probably be obsolete soon anyway- seeing as PC streaming is coming in the kitkat update. "?
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Why use a usb to transfer data when you can pull data/stream data from your pc?

saenta said:
Buy an USB Hub.
You can use hdd with ntfs should be much better then exfat.
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Mojorising said:
At this time- the controller requires a dongle which takes up one of the usb slots.
You are left with the micro SD slot and the usb 3.0 slot.
When the Kitkat update arrives, you will be able to remove the dongle and have the usb 2.0 slot available.
The usb's will probably be obsolete soon anyway- seeing as PC streaming is coming in the kitkat update.
The point of mojo is to do everything via bluetooth and wifi.
That's the beauty of the machine.
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First of all, the point is that you're not getting the functionality promised. You are told that it's a micro-console with TWO usb ports and you can either give up the controller, or give up a usb port. Secondly a usb hub can be an okay solution but you then have to worry about getting a normal one or a powered one and how much it will affect throughput splitting it up depending on what devices you have attached. And as is others here have reported problems in using both USB drives simultaneously (and that some drives work better in one than the other).
Yes, streaming is good, you can actually use it right now if you´re just talking about transferring files, but if you're told you'll get two USB ports you should GET two functional and available usb ports.
KitKat upgrade. They've mentioned it, but don't think there's actually an official announcement. Plus they could have had that functionality there since the beginning. Smartphone and tablet makers add/take away functionality from Android and its Kernel. Heck, people HERE do it all the time. So why can't Mad Catz. And how long exactly do people have to wait for the upgrade? As the saying goes, buy a device for what it can do today, not what it can do tomorrow. Manufacturers often don't come through on promised upgrades.
Also to say that you/they support SDXC without a disclaimer saying that you can't use exFat is fraudulent as exFat is STANDARD on SDXC. If they made all this clear from the beginning it wouldn't be so bad but they don't and as such mislead their (potential) clients. Who cares about friendly and speedy support if they can't actually solve the issues present?

I would use the USB to hold a thumb drive full of data like the ISOs I've ripped from my GameCube and PSX for emulation. (Trying to get my wife to give up the Wii to our son when the Android port of Dolphin reaches maturity).

Formatted my card as FAT32, loaded it down, NO LUCK.
Tried the card in two computers and it shows up as FAT32 with all files intact. I'm on my A700 right now, popped it in, and it is working just fine.
There really needs to be a reboot option on the MOJO...Yes, I rebooted..no luck. Causes FC from settings when I try to see my storage.
Thoughts?

ExtremeRyno said:
Formatted my card as FAT32, loaded it down, NO LUCK.
Tried the card in two computers and it shows up as FAT32 with all files intact. I'm on my A700 right now, popped it in, and it is working just fine.
There really needs to be a reboot option on the MOJO...Yes, I rebooted..no luck. Causes FC from settings when I try to see my storage.
Thoughts?
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Are getting any message when you stick it in?

solsearch said:
Are getting any message when you stick it in?
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When you put the USB in, do you see it say, preparing USB in the top left?
You then have to go to your mojo settings, storage, and 'mount USB'.
It will. Then show up.
To unmount, go to settings, storage, unmount.
Working now?

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Nothing.
When it was formatted as exFAT, I could at least get to the storage options...just wouldn't mount.

I'm trying an extHD to connect.
First try 1 partition 1TB NTFS - recognized and mounted without problems on USB 3.0 port. (but NTFS don't work on my LG G2)
2nd try 4 partitions 1,2,3,4, extFat 256GB recognized, but can't mount. (but works fine on LG G2)
3rd try 4 partitions 1 NTFS, 2,3 extFat and 4 NTFS - don't work
4rd try 1 partition 1TB extFat - can't mount.
So, I let this thing NTFS formatted now. :silly:
If the M.O.J.O could be rooted, we could use tools to mount ALL formats and ALL partitions.
Solution for my rooted LG G2 was simple. " Paragon NTFS & HFS+ " is a free tool in Play Store.
NTFS is r/w now on my smartphone and r/o on the Mojo.

[Q] External SSD with W8.1 is recognized as HDD

I am reading up about optimizing of SSD drives and I'm seeing that Windows 8 is supposed to be pretty good with automatically deciding whether to optimize or defragment drives based on what they are (SSD vs HDD). But I have a problem. I just bought an SSD but under the Optimization menu it is showing up as a Hard Drive.
It's a brand new Samsung 840 EVO 500GB and I'm going to be using it solely for music and movies as an external drive. I also bought an Anker external SATA III to USB 3.0 enclosure. I have the drive recognized and everything under the File Explorer but I'm just a little nervous that it's listed as a Hard Drive under the Optimization menu. How can I get Windows to see that it's in fact an SSD?

Hmm. Leaving aside the fact that "solely for music and movies" is an absurdly pointless waste of an SSD (those are large, contiguous, non-latency-sensitive, moderate-to-low bandwidth files; in other words they are everything that a traditional magnetic disk is good at and an SSD is not) I would guess that the issue lies in the SATA3-USB3 conversion. If there's any drivers available for that enclosure specifically, you could try installing them (though they really ought to have installed automatically). Beyond that... does Windows even schedule automatic "optimization" of removable drives (presumably it *does* see your drive as removable)?
If I were looking for a portable media drive, I'd frankly just return that one and use the money to buy a traditional 2.5" HDD with 2-4x the storage capacity. There's literally not a single reason I can think of to use an SSD there unless you plan on dropping the drive a lot while it's in use (modern laptop drives will lock their heads if they sense a sudden drop, so even there the SSD has only a small advantage). Magnetic storage will give you much better capacity and probably last longer, too.

I got the SSD on a really good sale and I'm definitely not returning it, the price I paid for it was absolutely bonkers and I'd be foolish to return it. I figured I'd buy it because I never know when I'm going to see it for the cheap again. I got it for 150 bucks CAD. So when I get a bigger drive in the future I will have an SSD
The software that came with the SSD for some reason won't install and the Samsung software won't recognize the SSD. Windows saw it right away as a portable media drive and I went into disk management, created an MBR volume and formatted it under NTFS. This was the only solution because many other users of this SSD have had the same problems as me - it straight up won't be recognized by the software, presumably probably because of the USB 3 connection. That's ok though because the software is optional. This was suggested as a solution and it works perfectly, now I'm just worried about the drive being falsely defragmented by Windows.

Ah. Well, you could try installing the software using Compatibility Mode (maybe try Win7 first?) but it sounds like, whether or not the drive is in fact a great deal, it has lousy firmware. Unless you can flash an update to it that fixes the problem, your best bet would simply be to try making sure Windows never attempts to "optimize" the drive.
Of course, unless you remove or edit the files on there, there won't be any fragmentation anyhow. So attempting defrag probably wouldn't do anything in any case. Similarly, if you aren't deleting files then you don't need to TRIM their data, so the usual optimizations for SSDs don't matter much either. You might want to see if you can disable access-time updating for the drive though, as that's very wasteful on an SSD (you can globally disable access timestamps using fsutil, but I don't know if you can do so for a single drive on Windows).