I'm curious as to how smooth/buggy ParanoidAndroid is as compared to stock. Can anyone comment as to how ParanoidAndroid has improved their experiences with their Nexus 7? I personally love stock and want to stay on it, but after seeing the full tablet mode, smaller options, more/less DPI, etc., I definitely want to try it out... However, as others have stated, I'm hesitant to go to CM10 (the only feature I enjoy from CM10 is the quick settings, but that's coming in 4.2).
How stable is it? Is the DPI settings and full Tablet mode that worth it? Etc.?
Thanks.
Been using PA since I got my nexus 7.. stock rom interface just doesnt feel right to me anymore.. its pretty stable depending on which kernel u use for it,,
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I have been using PA for a few days and I have not had any problems with it. I can recommend it!
Will PA offer an update that includes 4.2? I'm debating waiting to see until 4.2 comes out.
I briefly tried PA and got hung up on not being able to remove dual view in the settings menu. Not a big fan of it since I almost always use my N7 in portrait mode. Also I don't like the semi tablet UI with the blue boxes around the home screens when moving.
I was very curious in trying it out but those minor details kind of killed it for me. I am currently running XenonHD which works great. I liked how PA has the DPI changes but I like my stock phablet mode so no real reason for me to swap just yet. Has potential IMO otherwise.
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I briefly tried PA and got hung up on not being able to remove dual view in the settings menu. Not a big fan of it since I almost always use my N7 in portrait mode. Also I don't like the semi tablet UI with the blue boxes around the home screens when moving.
I was very curious in trying it out but those minor details kind of killed it for me. I am currently running XenonHD which works great. I liked how PA has the DPI changes but I like my stock phablet mode so no real reason for me to swap just yet. Has potential IMO otherwise.
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To remove dual pane in settings, go to paranoid settings/apps/ look for the settings app and set the layout to 360px. You can also do the same with trebuchet i think to return the launcher to phablet ui
I try out Paranoid everytime it has an update, but I always end up returning to stock.
Overall I prefer it to stock, but wifi gets to laggy after awhile to the point of being unusable.
I tried different kernels all with the same result.When I revert to stock...problem goes away.
I've tried every rom available. I like PA for my N7 because it's one of the most stable roms. I've been using it since August. The dev is very good about updates since it's CM based.
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ok my first question that may seem dumb to most of you....but what is tablet mode?? what is it and what is the difference to whatever...im running the Baked Black Bean rom right now...it seems fast and very stable, been running it for about a month now...but just getting kinda bored with it...this is where my next question comes in....not sure if its allowed but im wondering which Rom has the highest benchmark for the N7 if anyone knows and is the most fun to play with if im bored with BlackBean...but dont get me wrong for whoever made that cause it is awesome nd love it but like i said, just want something different right now...more to play with, ya know ?
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ok my first question that may seem dumb to most of you....but what is tablet mode?? what is it and what is the difference to whatever...im running the Baked Black Bean rom right now...it seems fast and very stable, been running it for about a month now...but just getting kinda bored with it...this is where my next question comes in....not sure if its allowed but im wondering which Rom has the highest benchmark for the N7 if anyone knows and is the most fun to play with if im bored with BlackBean...but dont get me wrong for whoever made that cause it is awesome nd love it but like i said, just want something different right now...more to play with, ya know ?
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Tablet mode is a variation on the Android workspace and features a unified notification bar and navigation bar on the bottom of the screen (see attached pic). Also, tablet mode in apps usually just means optimized for more screen real estate (i.e. multi-pane view in mail apps).
I don't know which ROM has the best benchmarks but I do know that Paranoid Android ROM is excellent for trying out tablet mode. It's super smooth and let's you choose between phone, tablet, and phablet (stock on N7) workspace. It also let's you choose between those modes for every app.
You can download Paranoid Android here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1800268
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It's a UI format. It puts the notification bar at the bottom and some other things.
Easy to test: change the DPI line in build.prop to 160 from 213. Then reboot.
# set default lcd density to TVDPI
ro.sf.lcd_density=160
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Hi guys,
I just bought a Nexus 7 and I love it. Issue is the differences between that and the TouchWiz are getting annoying.
nothing huge but would prefer having the same on both.
This isn't a what rom is best question, but mainly which offers the closest to pure Jelly Bean for GS3?
I know Cyanomod is popular, would that be a good place to start?
Try super nexus by faryaab. That is closest to stock experience.
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Any AOSP based Rom, like pure AOSP, cyanogenmod 10 or AOKP will do, they all use the same launcher as nexus 7 just the latter two have extra features like overclocking and extra settings. AOSP is completely clean.
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Any AOSP based Rom, like pure AOSP, cyanogenmod 10 or AOKP will do, they all use the same launcher as nexus 7 just the latter two have extra features like overclocking and extra settings. AOSP is completely clean.
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AOKP seems to be ICS?
Start from CM10 and then move on AOSP based custom Roms.. There are aokp builds which are using jb
You have been zooo==>ted
Wait until jb source is out and I`m pretty sure there will be a aosp based rom. I hope so
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All AOSP roms are boring. They seem to be a little bit faster but after some time i feel there is things absent here and there.
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All AOSP roms are boring. They seem to be a little bit faster but after some time i feel there is things absent here and there.
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For me the beauty of aosp is that you add what you want to fill in the gaps. I just flashed CM9 and love it so far. The only thing I really miss is smart stay.
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For me the beauty of aosp is that you add what you want to fill in the gaps. I just flashed CM9 and love it so far. The only thing I really miss is smart stay.
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Smart stay ex from market fills that gap
Dav_prime said:
For me the beauty of aosp is that you add what you want to fill in the gaps. I just flashed CM9 and love it so far. The only thing I really miss is smart stay.
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.beansoft.eyespy.free
Here's smart stay.
One of the biggest benefits of owning an S3 is having the customized UI you are complaining about. You get a really good messaging app with lots of cool features (like zooming with volume buttons when you're in the car for example, color schemes, you can choose whatever background you like, you are not confined to eye hurting white). You get samsung apps with lots of free apps you would have to pay for, also apps specifically for the S3, optimized for looks and performance. You get direct call, smart stay. You get the smoothest and nicest looking launcher with weather. Everything working out of the box. If it's only the launcher that's bugging you, just use trebuchet, apex or nova. The rest you shouldn't really complain about IMO. Pure android is lacking in looks and functionality, also all the custom roms you install will have worse performance in both 2d and 3d.
You might be right about 3D performance but the OS on CM9 is a HELL of a lot snappier, which - for someone who doesn't play games - is more important. No home button lag either.
I bought the SIII for the hardware and consider the software to be a travesty: it's like Samsung tried to cram as much useless crap in there as possible just so they could say they did it first. Their design standards and eye for colour are hideous. Touchwiz genuinely offends me. If it were not for the sublime hardware I wouldn't touch Samsungs with a bargepole. I'm one of those people who wishes that when you booted your Android phone for the first time you got the choice of stock or manufacturer-branded firmware.
Best wishes to anyone who likes Touchwiz but it's not for me, and I thank those wonderful devs who continue to work hard on removing it and giving us hardware lovers a purer Android experience.
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You might be right about 3D performance but the OS on CM9 is a HELL of a lot snappier, which - for someone who doesn't play games - is more important. No home button lag either.
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I'm not sure by what you mean. The launcher or the menus? They are both equal or faster on stock. No home button lag - install Jkay mod alpha for LI5 and you have that sorted as well. To me the stock android look is so poor and lacks in functionality. My Gnex on stock looks like it's an empty device with basic functionality only. It's a matter of preference I guess. I understand your point of view and wish cm9 and 10 were as fast as the stock samsung roms. They are not.
Not in the ui, not in apps. Battery life is also worse. Fact.
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I'm not sure by what you mean. The launcher or the menus? They are both equal or faster on stock. No home button lag - install Jkay mod alpha for LI5 and you have that sorted as well. To me the stock android look is so poor and lacks in functionality. My Gnex on stock looks like it's an empty device with basic functionality only. It's a matter of preference I guess. I understand your point of view and wish cm9 and 10 were as fast as the stock samsung roms. They are not.
Not in the ui, not in apps. Battery life is also worse. Fact.
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Generally I find everything on CM9 feels a lot faster. I have been on stock for most of my ownership of the S3 so I know what the stock OS feels like - whether that's with ICS or the Jellybean leaks (up to LI4). I suppose it's down to personal choice but I don't personally find any functionally to be lacking in the stock ROM on the Nexus 7. I think stock Android is beautiful and I hate the fact that Samsung feels the need to add replace perfectly good things with rubbish ones - like that crappy keyboard of theirs.
Why not at least leave the stock keyboard and the launcher installed and allow the choice for the layman. Things like Smart Stay are a bit of a gimmick, fine, and other things like the swipe to take a screenshot, S(hit)-Voice and other stupid sensor related 'features' are utter crap that no-one surely uses...for me though, the main problem is that Touchwiz is ugly. Everything from the SMS app to the uglified notification bar.
Anyway, each to their own.
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I'm still struggling with the keyboard on the sgs3 I have swift key trial currently but it would be nice to have the stock keys. Which keyboard would people recommend?
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btw what the difference between AOKP and AOSP ??
AOKP = android open kang project but I also don't know what is that =.=
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btw what the difference between AOKP and AOSP ??
AOKP = android open kang project but I also don't know what is that =.=
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Aosp is just pure Google stock experience while aokp add some additional features like theme chooser, customize layout and etc.
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markdj57 said:
I'm still struggling with the keyboard on the sgs3 I have swift key trial currently but it would be nice to have the stock keys. Which keyboard would people recommend?
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Swype. It is completely free and fast.
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The problem with Touchwiz is that is has serious lag. Open the Dialer and it takes a good second to open up. Same with all the UI its just slow.
It has a ton of good features such as slide to call and stuff but the lag is killing me.
I've just upgraded to Android 4.2 and noticed the lack of tablet ui when I changed the DPI.
Is there any watt till get it back or has it been fully removed? I loved the old UI.
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pankomputerek said:
I've just upgraded to Android 4.2 and noticed the lack of tablet ui when I changed the DPI.
Is there any watt till get it back or has it been fully removed? I loved the old UI.
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Yeah, WTF happened? Just did the same. 160 dpi with the 213 dpi gui? No thanks.
the update has unified the tablet UI... look at the nexus 10 and you will see you are now running the "tablet' UI. there is no split in UI like there was before (ie. no tablet and phablet difference)
Of course there are changes in 160dpi. It's not the same as 213, Youtube is still totally different, market, gmail. Just navigation and notification bar are splited. But Yeah, old ui was much better. There is too much wasted space in new UI
Hopefully some custom ROMs will add this in. Its a shame, I used to be able to operate with almost one hand and now I need the other to use the notifications. Some things were added tipi the top right quick settings but I really want it on the bottom.
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That's exactly what I suspected, no tablet UI included. I am definitely won't update to this. Let's hope the community will fix that.
They're doing away with the old tablet UI to unify the devices.
-Brought to you by Marino's Galaxy Nexus-
Yeah, and that is dumb as hell in my opinion!
i dont think it is necessarily dumb. i believe it is important to not have a split experience when it comes to your OS. If you want something different that is what custom ROMs are for. But for what google is putting out they want everyone to have a similar experience no matter what device they are on. that way going from your phone to a tablet is more natural
Using Tablet UI, I experienced accidentally pressing the Nav buttons and expanding the status bar while playing games. I think keeping the buttons away from where the fingers will accidentally press them is not dumb at all. I hope they find a better way to implement Tablet UI.
When I saw that the Nexus 10 had the new UI, I feared that this would happen.
Just flashed 4.2 and it was such a pity to discover that there's no tablet ui (( I liked it so much
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Just flashed 4.2 and it was such a pity to discover that there's no tablet ui (( I liked it so much
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Seems tablet ui is being worked on for 4.2...
Here's some files you can beta test:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1780970&page=84
Let me know (or better yet, the dev), if they work.
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Seems tablet ui is being worked on for 4.2...
Here's some files you can beta test:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1780970&page=84
Let me know (or better yet, the dev), if they work.
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Gotta give this a try when i get home! very nice! Thank you!
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Now we can have multiple user accounts on our Nexus 7... I'm wondering if it's possible to have one user running at 213 dpi and another at 160 dpi, so have different resolutions per user?
I read it's a change to the system build properties file in a thread about tablet UI, so I imagine it wouldn't be that hard for some savvy person to write a script to swap that at user logon, like in a .profile or similar, if android has those. I guess it must run as root, which is surely achievable on a rooted device... :fingers-crossed:
Key Lime Pie
Hopefully Google will figure something out for Key Lime Pie, unified UI is good for noobies but power users like us want something more and that's why we went with android.
Hey all,
Now, I have done the searching, and found the thread about getting tablet UI on my Nexus 7, It looks nice and I'll probably end up using it... However, I like the way the UI is laid out on the Nexus 10...
Now, I know that the 7 will switch to landscape mode and look similar, however, I want the App Drawer and associated buttons to be across the bottom and the google search bar to be across the top like the 10, as opposed to the sides on the 7.
Now, I understand that the N10's screen is a higher resolution, but I figure if anyone has figured it out, it'd be someone here at xda.
So, my question is, has anyone figured out how to do this yet?
Are you running 4.2?
If you're running version 4.2 or over and don't mind having slightly smaller icons, I would recommend changing your DPI from 213 to 160 in /system/build.prop
Of course you will have to be rooted to do this, but this would be worth trying and should give you what you're looking for .
If you're running 4.1.2 maybe try this this method also (as I can't remember the layout when you change your DPI on 4.1.2, and you can always change it back). If not, try some launchers from the Play Store like Apex or Nova.
Hope this helps.
I'd very much like the Nexus 10 landscape on my Nexus 7 as well. Right now, the Nexus 7 landscape looks like a hack for me. It doesn't even look tablet-ish. Anxiously seeking solutions.
I tried what Fuzone suggested and it worked just fine... Needed to adjust some widgets and whatnot but other than that it's good. That is if you don't mind the smaller icons.
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Nova Launcher Prime paired with paranoid rom = profit... Lower DPI with paranoid and increase rows and columns with nova if you play around with nova launcher settings you can achieve this... make launcher horizontal instead of vertical in landscape mode too in settings etc etc
please try this patch. you can have the TRUE tablet UI like Nexus 10.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=28957307
your device should be rooted before flashing the patch, of course
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please try this patch. you can have the TRUE tablet UI like Nexus 10.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=28957307
your device should be rooted before flashing the patch, of course
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That seems to be for 4.1.2. I don't think it'll work for 4.2+
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Stop... MUFFIN TIME!!!
It works also on 4.2.1
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=35582388
Possibly silly question. How does the N10 UI / N7 tablet patch differ from dpi switch to 160 on N7 ?
I am asking from a visual standpoint, not technical....
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This worked for me on 4.2.1. Flash the proper file (odexed/deodexed) tablet UI from your favorite recovery. The launcher is messed up but Nova Launcher free clears it up. See post number 912 in the following link.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1780970&page=92
While you're there, grab the appropriate stock UI file because the Nexus will not OTA update with the mod installed. Also, if you're running an earlier OS, there are files like these for 4.2 and 4.1.2 earlier in the topic.
Any custom rom that can re-size the navigation buttons, so we can have more screen?
I want to keep them in the same place but make them smaller. They take up to much of the sceen.
search dev forums and if they have it, they'll say it under the list of the many features
AOKP
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Codefire x does it as well and I think Paranoid Android too in tablet mode.
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Catchpen said:
Codefire x does it as well and I think Paranoid Android too in tablet mode.
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I have tweaked the necessary files so you can update the stock ROM with a thinner nav bar, however you need a rooted device and unlocked boot loader, so you might as well go the full custom ROM which will give you more options over the nav bar, such as choosing your own size.
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Phil
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Hi
I have tweaked the necessary files so you can update the stock ROM with a thinner nav bar, however you need a rooted device and unlocked boot loader, so you might as well go the full custom ROM which will give you more options over the nav bar, such as choosing your own size.
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Phil
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Hey Phil, how did you go about making your nav bar thinner? I want to stick to stock and am just adding small mods and the thickness of the nav bar really gets to me.
Liquidsmooth has nav bar resizing.
PA has navbar sizing, you can scale it down to zero if you want
tablet UI (statusbar and navbar are one) +phablet +per app dpi and UI control overall
expanded desktop
and expanded desktop on per app basis where is basically shifts into that mode for apps you define that way
https://www.dropbox.com/s/9cd5s1fst0uao3t/Screenshot_2013-01-03-02-52-35.png
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What is PA? Do you have to be rooted to use it? Thanks.
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What is PA? Do you have to be rooted to use it? Thanks.
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It's a custom ROM, and you have to be rooted to install any custom ROM.
I highly recommend PA over other custom ROMs. I just recently decided to see the status of CM10.1 and immediately restored my backup of PA. There are some nice things about other ROMs (AOKP retains the old 2.x behavior of selecting which app to launch such that you don't have to make 2 presses to open with an app only once), but all of them are pretty early in their development. PA can be modified the same way the other ROMs can, but the underlying ability to select both the dpi and layout of an app is invaluable.
I'm stuck with PA, and glad for it!
I'd throw my hat in for AOKP, it's got more customisation than any of the other ROM's and to be fair is now on milestone stable releases.
It depends on what you call customization. Apps are where you hopefully spend 95% of your time using your device, they are what makes your phone worthwhile. Curiously here you have virtually zero customization although the potential is the largest that android has to offer. Buttons and tweaks pale if you could see what's hidden in your everyday apps, if you have a way to tap into it that is.
ps. here's an example
this is how a normal rom uses the screen: http://www.abload.de/img/2013-01-04-15.02g2z5f.jpg
this is how pa can use the screen (and the hidden capabilities in any app): http://www.abload.de/img/n4-product-heroe5z5z.jpg
pa does that optionally. you can switch between UI's app per app. also tab-UI is optional and separate. you could run gtalk like that in any interface UI.
now literally hundreds of apps can do that, pretty much all google apps, tons of apps coming out everyday making good use of the screen now where nexus7 and 10 have established a market for bigger displays.