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Native 3G Video Call

I have a Galaxy S. It's a great phone. But now I want to move for dual-core phone or any other phone superior. One thing that got me stuck, is native 3G video calling. What phones are currently supporting this huge feature other than Galaxy S? I wanted Nexus S, to experience pure Android but it bumped me up to know there was no support for this feature. So someone please give me an idea or any news when Android will support this? My Symbian had it since 2006. That's a shame for Android.

The problem with native UMTS video calls is that it is being abandoned by everybody, not only Android.
The carriers are to blame. My carrier, for example, charge $5/month to enable the feature. Result: nobody uses it, so the standard is dying.
Also one other major problem was that you couldn't call a PC.

I'm sorry to hear that. My network provider video call rate is same with voice call. And also I got to use my phone number. And no software needed. It works on all phones that have 3G and front facing camera. That is a huge advantage than typical data calling.

Well, the solution is just having another phone to be a sidekick for video call. Android has so many things to improve before it can be called ultimate OS. For now, it just keeps me getting back and back to good old Symbian.

mawardi said:
I have a Galaxy S. It's a great phone. But now I want to move for dual-core phone or any other phone superior. One thing that got me stuck, is native 3G video calling. What phones are currently supporting this huge feature other than Galaxy S? I wanted Nexus S, to experience pure Android but it bumped me up to know there was no support for this feature. So someone please give me an idea or any news when Android will support this? My Symbian had it since 2006. That's a shame for Android.
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heres an idea, use appadmin or mybackup pro to backup your sgs dialer apk then try to install it to other phones that doesnt support native 3g video call like dell streak or sensation. it might work ;p

Skype android update to 2.1 still does not support video calls on Honeycomb tablets

Skype just updated it's android application to version 2.1 which now has support for 20 devices and support for video calls for devices running android 2.2+ :
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...ncluding-evo-3d4g-thunderbolt-sgs12-and-more/
I have an HTC Desire HD , did the update and in spite of only having one cam on the back, it is really supporting video calls as I made a test call and it shows the Desire HD's cam (in America HTC EVO) image ( I guess I have to put the device in front of a mirror if I want people to see me )
Anyway sadly enough it still does not support Honeycomb, thus our ASUS Transformer tablets, I perform the update on the ASUS Transformer, but still it doesn't show video conferencing options... Maybe this time some developer will hack it for us....

This is the only thing i envy ipads, they have facetime and we have nothing... well crappy gtalk and some other ones that nobody uses.
Update didnt change anything on my transformer or nexus one.. still no video call.

pinkster said:
This is the only thing i envy ipads, they have facetime and we have nothing... well crappy gtalk and some other ones that nobody uses.
Update didnt change anything on my transformer or nexus one.. still no video call.
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Looks like you forgot about the coming of google+. Did you?

Well, here's hoping that someone hacks the APK to give us some video calling love soon

Lawliet said:
Well, here's hoping that someone hacks the APK to give us some video calling love soon
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I agree. And when they do it successfully, they are going to have to fight off the thank yous and open a Swiss bank account from all the donations.
Have you kissed a Developer's ass today?
Sent from my Transformer that makes the chicks want me.

pinkster said:
This is the only thing i envy ipads, they have facetime and we have nothing... well crappy gtalk and some other ones that nobody uses.
Update didnt change anything on my transformer or nexus one.. still no video call.
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Not only that, but an IPad version of Skype also was released this week with video calls capability!

LOL, this means that the Toshiba Folio 100 that I soled for my transformer supports video calls in skype now...
I'm sure we will get video support... but when :S

fdomi said:
Not only that, but an IPad version of Skype also was released this week with video calls capability!
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It took Skype over a year to come out with Ipad version, let's hope it doesn't take this long for HC...

I wouldn't get my hopes up. I read an article saying that they are now focusing their efforts on the Windows Phone platform. Makes sense since Microsoft bought them (/is buying them).

I wonder why Skype are so reticent to adding video calling to Honeycomb tablets. nVidia demoed Skype HD running on Tegra 2 back as early as January of this year. But I haven't heard anything since just the rather lame excuse of only having it supported on a limited number of Android devices and that more would be coming soon. When Google release Ice Cream Sandwich which is supposed to unify tablets and smartphones, I wonder what will happen then. Will Skype still be trying to switch video support on and off for different devices.
Robert

rwniel said:
I wonder why Skype are so reticent to adding video calling to Honeycomb tablets. nVidia demoed Skype HD running on Tegra 2 back as early as January of this year. But I haven't heard anything since just the rather lame excuse of only having it supported on a limited number of Android devices and that more would be coming soon. When Google release Ice Cream Sandwich which is supposed to unify tablets and smartphones, I wonder what will happen then. Will Skype still be trying to switch video support on and off for different devices.
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Forget mobile platforms, Skype can't even manage to code proper software on the desktop. Not only have they not made Skype compatible with most high-def webcams, they've actually gone out of their way to make it *incompatible* intentionally, with all but one specific brand's webcams.
Getting high-def video working on Skype for Windows is possible, but requires you to run an old version, avoid it getting automatically updated to a newer version, and then manually editing files to get it to accept the video feed at the right resolution.
Until they get their act together on other platforms, I really don't see things improving on Android at any significant rate.

The new skype app also has this annoying feature that everytime you get network connection it starts Skype by itself.
I used to be able to use "Kill Skype" to kill it, now I have to log out from Skype.

ondoy1943 said:
Looks like you forgot about the coming of google+. Did you?
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No, because google+ sucks and must be avoided.
However, I thought skype said it works on the Xoom ? So its just them slacking. And its very dubious programming behavior to check your app against a list to see if it works. - just do it right.

Kermode said:
No, because google+ sucks and must be avoided.
However, I thought skype said it works on the Xoom ? So its just them slacking. And its very dubious programming behavior to check your app against a list to see if it works. - just do it right.
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I myself do not think that Google+ sucks, in fact I find it quite good. But I am an old and regular user of Skype I even have paid packages to make skypeout calls and I have many friends and family members in Skype all living abroad, so the audio and video calls are truly a blessing and justified thing for me, not a luxury or a "nice-to-have" option. Right now, whether we like it or not, Skype is a much more popular, thus massive , platform than google talk or google+ , so it would really make my day when Skype brings video capability to Android 3.0+.

Atrix left out of updated Skype w/ Video

Skype just updated their Android app and stated that those phones not directly on the list but running 2.2 should still be able to manually enable skype via going into settings....unfortunately when I installed it there is no enable video call...
Link to article --> http://www.pcworld.com/article/2372..._on_more_android_smartphones.html#tk.rss_news
Wonder if this is because I'm now on gingerbread and its not enabled generically on 2.3.4 or the other line in the story is if video enablement is not visible in settings it means your phone does not meet minimum requirements (hard to believe as this is more advanced than many of the enabled phones)
Hoping some of our devs can find a hack to enable!!!

So they have, that sucks because I have contacts I would frequently like to call using video.

I want video calls support too ...
https://support.skype.com/en/faq/FA11019/How-do-I-make-video-calls-with-Skype-for-Android#6 :::
* This specifically does not include some tablets that use the Tegra 2 chipset (e.g. Android tablets and Motorola Atrix do not support video calling).
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tehrules said:
So they have, that sucks because I have contacts I would frequently like to call using video.
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Outside of Fring which isn't nearly as well known and no PC platform, it would allow you to make video calls to all our iphone contacts plus PC/Mac users.
I've used the yahoo messenger videochat and its not bad, but not nearly as many people use/run yahoo messenger so its not as ubiquitous as skype..

Come on! ask for it !
http://community.skype.com/t5/Android/Motorola-Atrix-4G-Video-Calling/td-p/56850

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Come on! ask for it !
http://community.skype.com/t5/Android/Motorola-Atrix-4G-Video-Calling/td-p/56850
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Thanks for the link! I will post on that thread and ask them.

their library does not support the Tegra. Our processor doesn't support NEON architecture, which the Skype video libary uses. there's no way devs can get around it, because they've tried. The main Skype app hacker, droidrx, in the Software forum IS an Atrix owner, ironically. He's enabled video on Skype for dozens of devices but ours will NOT work until Skype makes the library compatible with the Tegra.
see:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1153285

Anyone read this before and have access to this kit?
Tegra 2 enables new mobile media and gaming capabilities:
For the first time, consumers will be able to game with multiple players using different types of devices. For example, a Tegra 2-powered super phone or tablet can be used to play with players on a desktop PC.
NVIDIA demonstrated a prototype of Skype HD video calling on an Android tablet at its CES 2011 press conference. NVIDIA developed a reference implementation of HD video conferencing on Tegra 2-based tablets using SkypeKit. SkypeKit is a collection of software and APIs that allows virtually any Internet connected device to offer Skype voice and video calls.

Tango
There is a good option that I just started using which is TANGO. This app is compatible with the iOS devices, and have just announced support for Windows. Skype does not have the slightest intent to support the Tegra CPU.

Come on skype...The atrix community wants video too.

our phone is such the most powerful phone that we dont support skype. gotta love irony eh? ;D

I'm starting to regret getting the Atrix soley based on Tegra 2, it seems to be responsible for more problems than good it does.

:/ Darn. Well this sucks.

we just have to be patient.
i can't wait until the atrix gets skype w/ video.

Dude u dont regret about getting a phone just because you dont have enough support available for it yet. When the phone came out, people who bought it bought 'em not only because its a nice sexy piece of harware but its the most powerful phone of its time.
Lets deal with, things are getting better, bootloader unlocked, new custom roms available, all sorts of hacks are being made available... it will get there when we can make a video call through skype...
just wait not hate..
Cheers
wycs said:
I'm starting to regret getting the Atrix soley based on Tegra 2, it seems to be responsible for more problems than good it does.
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wycs said:
I'm starting to regret getting the Atrix soley based on Tegra 2, it seems to be responsible for more problems than good it does.
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I'm with you...I guess I never caught the Neon issue and not being able to run full HD which I thought was actually the opposite and big reason I bought this phone...related I was not expecting the compatibility issues with the Tegra2..

Screw skype.. come on cm7. Then ill worry about skype
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jank0023 said:
I'm with you...I guess I never caught the Neon issue and not being able to run full HD which I thought was actually the opposite and big reason I bought this phone...related I was not expecting the compatibility issues with the Tegra2..
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we can run full HD last time i checked. on the GB release notes 1080p playback was listed
pretty sad that bigOl' NVidia tegra 1 was fail, not tegra 2 is still missing features. they make some of the best chips, i mean.. come on. at least AMD didnt make it LOL, our phones would be 100C and melt. but still. im sure we will get support sometime, when nokia releases their new Meebo phone they are working on i think im going to go to that for a while and wait to tegra 2 gets fully optimized.

stratax said:
we can run full HD last time i checked. on the GB release notes 1080p playback was listed
pretty sad that bigOl' NVidia tegra 1 was fail, not tegra 2 is still missing features. they make some of the best chips, i mean.. come on. at least AMD didnt make it LOL, our phones would be 100C and melt. but still. im sure we will get support sometime, when nokia releases their new Meebo phone they are working on i think im going to go to that for a while and wait to tegra 2 gets fully optimized.
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Gingerbread cannot run full profile HD whether it be 720 or 1080P due to lack of NEON code. Which most likely is the same reason why skype video does not work on Tegra 2...Plenty of posts about full profile HD not running on Tegra 2, not now probably not ever...

Skype Video for Tegra 2
IIRC, on CES 2011, nVidia wrote an app using SkypeKit and demoed video calling with the Tegra 2.
So although the official Skype app requires NEON instruction sets, I wonder if it is possible to write an app similar to nVidia's which we know works with Tegra 2.

GSM calling on GT 10.1

That's from an Indian forum (not permitted to post link)
Don't know how true, but sounds interesting:
I was in mall 3/4 days back , apparently looking at tabs ( duh!! ) and I met a technical person from Samsung and he was telling me that since ICS is made for cellphone and tablets alike, It will unlock the potential for calling on GSM as well, and hence Samsung tab 10.1 will RECEIVE support for GSM calling cause it has hardware ( sim tray & messaging), will xoom receive its calling ability as well ?
also he told me that 7.7 will be launched on or around nov 15th where as 8.9 & 7.0 plus will be here in January Samsung is marketing them such way that they will exhaust the supply of 10.1 and then only move to next version ,
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The GSM -hardware- has ALWAYS supported the ability to make and receive regular GSM phone calls and SMS/MMS. The question isn't whether or not the GTab/ICS -can- support GSM calling; they always have been able to.
The question is, will carriers bully the manufacturers into requiring that the GSM phone calling abilities of tablets be disabled or not. American carriers succeeded in that with the original Tab. (The P1000 could make and receive calls everywhere in the world except for the US versions; having a single device, and thus a single subscription, is bad business for carriers...)

Thomas3G said:
That's from an Indian forum (not permitted to post link)
Don't know how true, but sounds interesting:
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Thanks for info...i m happy to know gsm calling would be available in near future. Desperately waiting for that feature.

i have made the call settings appears in the settings for gtab 7500 , but i didn't continue the process as im using mini laptop and is killing me during compiling and de-compiling xD

i have made the call settings appears in the settings for gtab 7500 , but i didn't co
Can u tell me how did u do it ? I'm also trying my best to activate gsm calling
Thank u

Thomas3G said:
That's from an Indian forum (not permitted to post link)
Don't know how true, but sounds interesting:
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this is one of the thing i am very much interested in. it would be nice if the developers can enable the calling for GTab 10.1.

This is one function that I have been looking forward to.
Sadly, I'm not well versed in programming. However, it's great to see that someone has already started on it.
Can't wait for it to be available.

HDC Galaxy SIII (MediaTek MT6575)

Im creating this thread to help people root there HDC Galaxy SIII I9300
and to extend this thread to eventually help people install updated firmware and new roms for their device.
help from everyone will all be taken into count if deemed correct and tested by me
All credit goes to
ColonelZap
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and his blog for rooting the device in question
this is proven by me to work on
mtk6573
mtk6575
mtk6577
Do not miss any steps follow close and pause video if needed
heres the link
A play store fix is provided which is helpful but installation of it is not properly stated in video and caused me to fail first time
corrections are stated below:
download es file manager, once downloaded remember to mount system as writable at bottom in settings of application
also download s3market files provided, i have never used other file provided for calender etc it has no use in mtk6575 versions of the device
store s3market on root of sdcard
copy files within one by one, not together to system location shown
install the com.android.vending-3.5.16.apk file provided in s3market.
fix permissions in properties of files shown
then reboot device
what i have corrected in the procedure will fix the stopped unexpectedly error 100% if done correctly in mtk6575 phones of this device

I'm curious, how do these phones compare to the real thing? I gave up on clone phones after receiving a very bad quality ciphone 09..

Visually Stunning, Functionally a failure...
Be Warned, the HDC Galaxy S3 especially from fastcardtech are not worth the money and mental anguish to get the thing rooted. They come with Gingerbread, and Locked, and full of Chinese Apps. Once you free of that, the Google Sync is limited, so you cannot get your mail, calender, etc synced. Then there is Colonel Zap which is mysteriously the only person in the world prone to be able to root these devices, but be warned again. Only unless you specifically know your Chipset in your phone, MT6577 or 6575, good luck with that, you should be wary of rooting per Col Zap, as in my case, there process bricked one of my two phones from FastCardTech. And don't get me going on FastCardTech, they are complete B.S., takes over a month to accomplish anything, then they send you the lesser model than you pay for. Doesn't matter all the FREE CRAP you will be offered with this phone, doesn't make up for the fact that is is just a great looking shell with poor electronics inside.
Look these phones are from CHINA, the specs offered online are fiction, and are burnt into the kernel of the phone,so it only appears that you are getting what it states online. you are only getting a phone capable of meager performance, NO 4g, 3g, but at lower speeds if your are lucky enough to fit the Mobile Frequency Spectrum the phone runs in, being their made in China, not a U.S. friendly phone in that aspect. Wi-fi is spotty, and the software is crap, bottom line you get what you pay for, and not many resources to get you through the hard times. Good Luck.....!! At least it looks like the real thing you can show off to your friends while they laugh at you.....

Specs do not match and support is very poor
I bought the "Ultimate pro" version from FastcardTech.com (as a new member i am not allowed to post the link) and it does not meet the specs given by them. The GPS took about 2 hours outside to determine my position. After a factory defaults reset i could not find the strength to do this again
The CPU is not the 6577, but the slower 6575. The camera quality is very poor. The wifi signal is very, very weak. (i have a very good and strong router) The sound quality of a phone call is poor. The 'gsm sound' disturbes the conversation all the time, as if you are to close to a speaker. When you complain to FCT, don't expect any customer support. They give to most strange answers and can give no specific support what so ever. After some time, they say i can return the phone, but it's allmost impossible to meet their requirements, so i am pretty sure that when the have it back, i will never hear from them again. (just read the customer feedback on any honest site)
Including tax, shipping and insurance, i paid about 250 euo's for this phone.
If i had known this all on time, i would not have bought it.
But on the other hand, the responsiveness and quality of the screen is good. Gaming goes smooth and after countless factory defaults, i have managed to turn off most Chinise apps, without losing the nice 'Samsung startscreen'.
All together is not such a bad phone after all, but its not what i counted on in the first place.
Now i am curious about if there will be any tweaks possible. Rooting, custom firmware etc...
I am willing to help if possible.
Kind regards,
Coupedevil

Coupedevil said:
I bought the "Ultimate pro" version from FastcardTech.com ....
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Was it this one?> http://www.fastcardtech.com/goods-7...droid-404-3G-Dual-sim-47-inch-8MP-Camera.html
Anyway, thanks for sharing your experience. It's disappointing to read how unprofessional some of these shops are It's one thing when they mess up the specs on pre-release products but this shouldn't happen with a phone that has been available for so long. Looks to me like they simply sent the wrong phone to begin with. Their lack of knowledge of even FCE-level English makes it so much worse
I'm looking at chinastore-online to get the Jiayu G2+. The shop at least claims some customer-friendly terms, but so far I've yet to hear from anyone who made a purchase there.

So hang on you've bought an obvious Chinese knock off and your surprised to find its crap? If your interested I can do you a great price on some magic beans (cash or bank transfer only).
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ghostofcain said:
So hang on you've bought an obvious Chinese knock off and your surprised to find its crap? If your interested I can do you a great price on some magic beans (cash or bank transfer only).
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Couldn't have said better myself...
Im not even sure you should be posting this here as this is obviously not a S3...
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Teio said:
Couldn't have said better myself...
Im not even sure you should be posting this here as this is obviously not a S3...
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well i thought we was all here to help one and other ??
maybe i am wrong
Galaxy S3 i9300 Plus Ultra-Thin 4.8inch Screen Android 4.0 MTK6575 Single Sim
and thats what i need help i need a rom for the above phone
oh and yes its a clone
many thanks

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If i were you and i wanted a single core around 200-250 euros i'd get nexus s...
Great hardware,full jellybean support and great dev support here on xda.
What else do you need?
Bang for the buck phone now that it's price has dropped.
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menthol1960 said:
well i thought we was all here to help one and other ??
maybe i am wrong
Galaxy S3 i9300 Plus Ultra-Thin 4.8inch Screen Android 4.0 MTK6575 Single Sim
and thats what i need help i need a rom for the above phone
oh and yes its a clone
many thanks
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A clone in looks, but without the Samsung SOC. So chances of getting a ROM off here that'll run are less than zero, sorry.
Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk 2

menthol1960 said:
well i thought we was all here to help one and other ??
maybe i am wrong
Galaxy S3 i9300 Plus Ultra-Thin 4.8inch Screen Android 4.0 MTK6575 Single Sim
and thats what i need help i need a rom for the above phone
oh and yes its a clone
many thanks
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It will not be found on this forum this is I9300 SGS3.
Search for a MTK6575 forum .
jje

I really don't think this thread should even be in the Galaxy S III forums

its hard to remove chinese apps
cannot unistall
and hard to upgrade rom @ win 7 -.-

Brand:Samsung
Model:GT-I9300
CPU Hardware : MTK6575
Android Versiyon : 4.0.4
Processor : ARMv7 Processor rev 10 (v7I)
Hardware : SMDK4x12
Kernel : 3.0.13 1211 V18 Wed Sep 5 09:29:18 CST 2012
Ana Bant Sürümü : MAUI.11AMD.W11.50.SP.V20, 2012/08/13 14:56
Üretim Numarası : IMM76D.I9300ZSALE9
Custom Build Version : 1346760007
Ekran: 480x800

can someone tell me if its gps ios workling ?
mine never locks onto sattellites using ulysse or other apps

khankll said:
can someone tell me if its gps ios workling ?
mine never locks onto sattellites using ulysse or other apps
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I have this galaxy s3 mt6575 clone, same as in the pictures in this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1921178
I also had troubles getting the gps to work and started to think it didnt work at all.
But lately I have managed to get some gps signal to work.
I did flash the cwm recovery and have now installed the Lewa rom for it.
google "LeWa For Samsung Galaxy S3 MTK6575" to find the rom if you want to try.
Not sure if it was that rom that made the gps work or not, because I also did install an app named GPS Booster, as well as the u-center gps test app, and the GPS Test app.
Now I get enaugh signal to get my position. But the antenna is weak I think, so I need to be outdoor and have clear weather and clear view to the sky to get it to work. I did not test it in the car yet, but I think it might be to weak to work reliably inside the car.

i just bought the MTK6577 (s3 mimic)
and i want to change his rom (its already rooted)
what rom will work at this device?

Rideran said:
i just bought the MTK6577 (s3 mimic)
and i want to change his rom (its already rooted)
what rom will work at this device?
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None of these roms will work nor will you find one that will here. XDA doesnt support clone knock off devices.

Rideran said:
i just bought the MTK6577 (s3 mimic)
and i want to change his rom (its already rooted)
what rom will work at this device?
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use Google search for MTK6577 forum .
Its not a Samsung phone so not a sammmy rom .
jje

Same Products MT6575
I have the software to update another model, which is not mentioned, but with the same processor.
I have also to update the software, it would be possible to modify intalando software programs and extract and place in another of the same model, but modified?
So manufactures improve their imperfections.