I lost my stock s-pen and bought an original replacement.
It's treating my device like a resistive screen not capacitive.
Meaning my screen will only register input from the pen if I push down hard on the screen.
Gliding it across the screen does nothing. I need to literally push down to get it to do anything.
What's going on?
..you mean this is not normal behaviour?
I need a new S-Pen, my Life is a Lie.
no. supposed to act like a capacitive.
CorruptedSanity said:
I lost my stock s-pen and bought an original replacement.
It's treating my device like a resistive screen not capacitive.
Meaning my screen will only register input from the pen if I push down hard on the screen.
Gliding it across the screen does nothing. I need to literally push down to get it to do anything.
What's going on?
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did you buy a real spen? just making sure it is original
have you tried the usual workarounds like recalibrating the spen (setting orientation of spen from left handed then back to right handed, and touching the four corners of the screen)?
normally loss of screen sensitivity is a hardware issue of the digitizer/lcd panel and not of the spen.
hope you resolve the issue
the spen isn't a capacitive stylus.. it works on separate electromagnetic hardware detection. even mine needs slight pressure to work and i think it's normal behavior.
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Hmm because the stock one required much less pressure.
Thanks anyways.
what are you saying.... s pen IS resistive, not capacitive
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what are you saying.... s pen IS resistive, not capacitive
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So it only works on pressure not touch?
So my fingers create a capacitive relation with the screen but the stylus creates a resistive?
My opinion is the s pen is inductive (magnetic field), not capacitive (electric field). Definitely not resistive because I can hover above the screen and see the s pen cursor move.
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Jamal Ahmed said:
what are you saying.... s pen IS resistive, not capacitive
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PaulF8080 said:
My opinion is the s pen is inductive (magnetic field), not capacitive (electric field). Definitely not resistive because I can hover above the screen and see the s pen cursor move.
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So what are you saying? Is a mere touch (capacitive) enough or pressure necessary (resistive)?
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So what are you saying? Is a mere touch (capacitive) enough or pressure necessary (resistive)?
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neither. it works due to the specific pen hardware. It's Inductive. The note has the ability to handle capacitive and inductive inputs (but not resistive)
Is this an official s pen replacement? people have used non-spen wacom styluses on the note with no ill effects. might just be a dodgy replacement.
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neither. it works due to the specific pen hardware. It's Inductive. The note has the ability to handle capacitive and inductive inputs (but not resistive)
Is this an official s pen replacement? people have used non-spen wacom styluses on the note with no ill effects. might just be a dodgy replacement.
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Well it's behaving like its resistive. I need a good amount of pressure.
It's an original Samsung stylus.
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So what are you saying? Is a mere touch (capacitive) enough or pressure necessary (resistive)?
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I'm not "saying" a fact. I am giving an "opinion" or guess. I'm trying to figure out how the phone knows where the pen is without touching and how the pen gets power. A pickup coil in the pen like those non touch inductive chargers seems to explain everything.
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There is actually a thread here on XDA discussing the S-Pen's technology over here with this specific post you might be interested in, about how to adjust the S-Pen's sensitivity.
I just had a glimpse on the thread, there for sure are even more good tips.
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There is actually a thread here on XDA discussing the S-Pen's technology over here with this specific post you might be interested in, about how to adjust the S-Pen's sensitivity.
I just had a glimpse on the thread, there for sure are even more good tips.
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You are number one.
I didnt have the guts to do it but thanks.
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I have a problem with my Stylus.
In the right bottom of the Screen the Stylus reacts even without touching the Screen.
Ill add a Screenshot.
This is really annoying if you use Swype!
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Is it possible to make the screen less sensitiv with root?
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I have a problem with my Stylus.
In the right bottom of the Screen the Stylus reacts even without touching the Screen.
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You're not using a magnetic case, are you?
I've seen cases that put a magnet right there.
- Frank
I believe it has been established that the pen technology is induction based and thus the pen itself is a piece of technology and not just plastic. It seems your pen suffers from the opposite effecr my pen suffered. I had to push real hard to make the pen work, thus I sent it in for repairs. It should hopefully be back by tomorrow or at least tuesday. I sorely miss my pen
Bottomline: I would do as I did, the phone most likely is ok, its the pen I reckon. And I do so bc a friends pen worked ok on my phone, my pen on the other hand didnt work well on his Note either...
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You're not using a magnetic case, are you?
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Nope, no magnetic case.
I dont really think that the Stylus is broken because only a small area is defect.
But who knows...
I think ill go today to the shop where i bought it and try it out with an another stylus.
If the Stylus isnt the problem i have to hand over my beloved Note.
EDIT: My stylus was defect.
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EDIT: My stylus was defect.
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Good to hear! Well, not good of course but good as in your Note is ok, it was only the S-Pen. So chances are, once I get my S-Pen back, I'll work as desired...
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Good to hear! Well, not good of course but good as in your Note is ok, it was only the S-Pen. So chances are, once I get my S-Pen back, I'll work as desired...
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I think the same way.
But I didnt understand how it could happen that only a small area is affected and not the whole display.
Well like some others here I have a faulty S-Pen. It starts interacting with the screen about 1-2cm away which is VERY frustrating. After seeing some threads here I got in touch with Samsung Customer Support and this is what I got.
I sent
I've had an issue with my s-pen over the last few weeks. The pen will ''''click'''' or ''''draw '''' something on the screen when its about 1-2cm away from the screen.
This makes annotation and drawing very difficult as it keeps pressing when I do not mean to.
Is this a firmware issue or hardware issue? From what I''''ve read online it looks to me to be hardware related.
Many thanks,
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This is what I got in return.
Dear Ben
Thank you for contacting Samsung.
I'm afraid that the s-pen is designed to work in this manner. It is an option that most customers tend to prefer so that the screen does not actually have to be touched/scratched by the pen. I'm sorry if this is an inconvenience to you.
If you require any further assistance, please contact Samsung again and we will be more than happy to help.
Kind regards
Ciaran
Online Support Team
SAMSUNG Customer Support Centre
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I know thats total BS. Who would want a stylus that unpredictably touches the screen without touching it?
Your thoughts?
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total BS
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Well, that's not how I would want the S-Pen to work and for me that's not how it does work so I'd suggest you get back to them and explain that what you have is a definite problem.
For me the S-Pen does pretty much exactly what you (or any other sane person) would want - it takes a gentle but quite deliberate contact with the screen to make anything happen.
This is the same problem I have it really is frustrating :-!
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The pen should be detected when slightly above the surface of the screen, that's how my Wacom tablet works as well, but it should never "click" without actually touching the surface so there's definately something wrong.
You could try to calibrate your sensors and do a factory reset. If neither solve the problem then I would press Samsung to send a replacement pen.
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The pen should be detected when slightly above the surface of the screen, that's how my Wacom tablet works as well, but it should never "click" without actually touching the surface so there's definately something wrong.
You could try to calibrate your sensors and do a factory reset. If neither solve the problem then I would press Samsung to send a replacement pen.
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I've resetted, tried different roms and the only way I can get it to work normally is by moving the end of the pen. Its only a temporary solution though and only lasts a few minutes.
It's deffinately a hardware fault within the pen, its a tiny rubber o-ring between the magnet and the coil which breaks up over time allowing them to stay in contact when they shouldnt be, I replaced mine with cotton and it works like a charm now.
Samsung are talking out their arse's!
This is definately not normal behaviour as it defeats the whole purpose of the pen being pressure sensitive and it's just a load of bull that's what people prefer as it screws up any accuracy. I'm not aware of any setting that would invoke this behaviour so I'd say it's definately a hardware related issue.
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I'm afraid that the s-pen is designed to work in this manner.
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My thoughts? Sorry for nerding, but the answer is: LOL! If this is how it´s designed to work, millions of users (including me) are using a defect device.
The only way to reproduce this pen-behaviour is to lie down on your bed and to use the Note with the screen pointing to the ground (technical reasons).
That confirms that the s-pen is scratching the screen!
I've just sent them the exact same message as copied from your post, lets see what reply they give me
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I've just sent them the exact same message as copied from your post, lets see what reply they give me
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That will be interesting actually, I wonder if they'll offer you a new pen.
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Samsung technical support are crap. I rang them because my 7.7 went into a boot loop every time I powered off and had to let the battery go flat to escape from the loop. The solution they suggested was to never power off and when I argued that I should be able to power down they hung up on me. I returned the 7.7 to Amazon for a re-fund within the 30 days and got a replacement from Hong Kong with 3g for £60 less.
I'm glad samsung is not in automobile or aviation industry - people would die because of such a low quality control.
I think they might send you a free air compressor, when you tell them that the pressure sensivity doesn't work at 2cm above the screen without
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I'm glad samsung is not in automobile or aviation industry - people would die because of such a low quality control.
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from what I read before, Samsung originated as a company selling trade exports of fish, vegetables and fruits to China.
Wonder if trying a third party penabled pen would make a difference.
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i found the solution. just wrap some metal foil above the button and the behaviour is gone. use some cellotape. saw on youtube. it is not mechanical.
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Will give that a try tomorrow thanks ;-)
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msnxda said:
i found the solution. just wrap some metal foil above the button and the behaviour is gone. use some cellotape. saw on youtube. it is not mechanical.
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Err which button are you talking about?
if you're having problems with choppiness, light touches, or having to press hard for your pen to register a touch you can adjust the sensitivity easily.
this search for a fix started when i found my gn2 would stutter when getting into the "zone" and start randomly causing accidental touches. from the gn2 forums i found that the sensitivity can be adjusted via a potentiometer in the pen itself.
on my gn10.1 i found the pen too sensitive. in order to draw the thin lines i had to almost hover over the screen and in doing so i ended up with choppy thin lines. after decreasing the sensitivity i can now draw consistent thin lines after adding just a smidge of pressure.
to adjust the sensitivity you'll need to remove the cover of the click button. a razor should do the job. the fastener is on the back end (towards the samsung logo). a little upwards force and it'll pop off easily. after removing, you'll see two pots. the one on the left is the one you want to mess with (dunno what the one on the right does).
using a small screwdriver turn the pot clockwise 1/8 a turn at a time to decrease the sensitivity, counter clockwise for increase. find the setting that suits you the best and reassemble. this trick kept me from making a trip back to the sprint store and exchanging a phone (no replacement stylus yet).
How did you find out about that?
it was in the gnII forum. no pics there though. he just said pop off the button and adjust the left potentiometer. thought i'd elaborate a bit here.
madsquabbles said:
if you're having problems with choppiness, light touches, or having to press hard for your pen to register a touch you can adjust the sensitivity easily.
this search for a fix started when i found my gn2 would stutter when getting into the "zone" and start randomly causing accidental touches. from the gn2 forums i found that the sensitivity can be adjusted via a potentiometer in the pen itself.
on my gn10.1 i found the pen too sensitive. in order to draw the thin lines i had to almost hover over the screen and in doing so i ended up with choppy thin lines. after decreasing the sensitivity i can now draw consistent thin lines after adding just a smidge of pressure.
to adjust the sensitivity you'll need to remove the cover of the click button. a razor should do the job. the fastener is on the back end (towards the samsung logo). a little upwards force and it'll pop off easily. after removing, you'll see two pots. the one on the left is the one you want to mess with (dunno what the one on the right does).
using a small screwdriver turn the pot clockwise 1/8 a turn at a time to decrease the sensitivity, counter clockwise for increase. find the setting that suits you the best and reassemble. this trick kept me from making a trip back to the sprint store and exchanging a phone (no replacement stylus yet).
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Nice find, you should put this in the tips thread aswell:good:
cool find i actually adjusted sensitivity to where it "clicks" on screen without touching the screen. a features i have been wanting.
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Awesome! I was looking for this for quite some time
After you take tthe button off, you can put it back on with no consequence correct?
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younix258 said:
Awesome! I was looking for this for quite some time
After you take tthe button off, you can put it back on with no consequence correct?
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yep, it just pops back on. put the little notch under the front (towards the pen tip) first then snap it back into place. i've done it with my gn2 and my gn10.1 s-pens so far. i'm pretty sure all wacom pens would be able to be adjusted the same.
Just another little tip while removing the button. Place a piece of scotch tape on the bottom portion of the button. The first time I removed it with a razor blade, it went flying towards the kitchen. Luckily it landed in a dirty glass instead of down the drain.
Great tip!!
Could you please show some photos of the button?
Thanks!
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Read the thread. Shots are there.
Maybe he meant pictures of the s-pen button flying through the kitchen... Uh
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I turned mine to far clockwise and it became ultra sensitive. Recognizing from at least 2 inches away from the glass.
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Maybe he meant pictures of the s-pen button flying through the kitchen... Uh
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Read the thread. Shots are there.
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I did, I would like to see just the button, to have an idea of exactly how out fits in the hole.
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rewrew said:
I did, I would like to see just the button, to have an idea of exactly how out fits in the hole.
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I did, I would like to see just the button, to have an idea of exactly how out fits in the hole.
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Don't forget the thanks button.
Oh this is great! I wonder if this will work with the Wacom pen we've talked about in this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1931137
I popped open mine, and the pots are side by side like in the Note Spen. Hm, I don't think the screwdriver I have for my eyeglasses is small enough though.
Don't own a screwdriver small enough. Will try getting one tomorrow. Since putting a screen protector on I find the s-pen less sensitive ; hopefully this will help.
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Oh this is great! I wonder if this will work with the Wacom pen we've talked about in this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1931137
I popped open mine, and the pots are side by side like in the Note Spen. Hm, I don't think the screwdriver I have for my eyeglasses is small enough though.
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I had an old Lenovo ThinkPad one where I had lost the button and used a rubber pen grip to use with my note when I first purchased it, the sensitivity and offset issue prevented me from using the pen and I had never thought about adjusting the potentiometers until I saw this thread.
I adjusted the sensitivity as detailed and it worked! I still had a problem with the offset where the pen had too much of a distance from nib to where it wrote so I thought to myself, maybe the second potentiometer that we were told not to adjust will resolve this problem and then thought that I've got nothing to lose with this old pen and gave it a shot.
I can confirm that the Pen now works flawlessly as the other potentiometer did indeed adjust the offset.
I now have a pen without the button for when I take intensive notes and no longer will be pressing the side button by accident which used to screw up my notes and was annoying, now it's a thing of the past!
If anyone wants to adjust the second potentiometer, my advise would be that you use the right size screw driver and make small adjustments, test and readjust as per the op.
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I had an old Lenovo ThinkPad one where I had lost the button and used a rubber pen grip to use with my note when I first purchased it, the sensitivity and offset issue prevented me from using the pen and I had never thought about adjusting the potentiometers until I saw this thread.
I adjusted the sensitivity as detailed and it worked! I still had a problem with the offset where the pen had too much of a distance from nib to where it wrote so I thought to myself, maybe the second potentiometer that we were told not to adjust will resolve this problem and then thought that I've got nothing to lose with this old pen and gave it a shot.
I can confirm that the Pen now works flawlessly as the other potentiometer did indeed adjust the offset.
I now have a pen without the button for when I take intensive notes and no longer will be pressing the side button by accident which used to screw up my notes and was annoying, now it's a thing of the past!
If anyone wants to adjust the second potentiometer, my advise would be that you use the right size screw driver and make small adjustments, test and readjust as per the op.
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Then the second. Potentiometer is for offset, I will try this with my old note I as it have offset
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I'm finding that my S Pen is taking a second to be registered when touching the screen, and then takes an extra second when I move it away.
So all my handwriting has slight trails because I'm moving my hand away from the screen, but the pen is still maintaining a connection to digitizer even though I'm not touching the screen anymore.
Anyone know of a fix?
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I'm finding that my S Pen is taking a second to be registered when touching the screen, and then takes an extra second when I move it away.
So all my handwriting has slight trails because I'm moving my hand away from the screen, but the pen is still maintaining a connection to digitizer even though I'm not touching the screen anymore.
Anyone know of a fix?
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Have you tried factory resetting? I had some bugs that I ironed out with a factory reset. If that doesn't fix it, you might need to take it back to the store
Sounds like you might have some gunk in the pen tip area. The system recognizes contact by reading the amount of pressure applied to the tip, so if something is obstructing the natural movement of the tip, that could lead to inaccurate pressure readings.
I'd try using the included tip removal tool to remove the current tip, blow down the hole of the S-Pen to dislodge anything that might have gotten in there, then try installing one of the new tips.
If that doesn't do anything and you have the same results, you might have to take it back to the store. If you do take it back, ask to try a different S-Pen and see if it still has the same issue.
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I'm finding that my S Pen is taking a second to be registered when touching the screen, and then takes an extra second when I move it away.
So all my handwriting has slight trails because I'm moving my hand away from the screen, but the pen is still maintaining a connection to digitizer even though I'm not touching the screen anymore.
Anyone know of a fix?
Thanks,
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Search on here for how to adjust the potentiometer in your s pen, sounds like you need to make it less sensitive.
dickson123 said:
Search on here for how to adjust the potentiometer in your s pen, sounds like you need to make it less sensitive.
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where?
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where?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=viDDKGPj2FI
A picture is worth a thousands words
I have circled in green the correct lines, in red the stray ones.
Why does it behave this way? It is no even co sistent, that is it does not happen always on the same spot
I get that too, don't know why.
Me too
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I think it is happening because the pen is not communicating with the screen properly. Meaning that when you lift the pin up instead of pulling it straight up you're pulling it slightly at an angle and the pen is still close enough to communicate with the screen.
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I think it is happening because the pen is not communicating with the screen properly. Meaning that when you lift the pin up instead of pulling it straight up you're pulling it slightly at an angle and the pen is still close enough to communicate with the screen.
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Exactly, im thinking that too. Or atleast it looks like that when writing. It's annoying but you can live with it - i dont care show much about it when writing, but when drawing it is awful.
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Exactly, im thinking that too. Or atleast it looks like that when writing. It's annoying but you can live with it - i dont care show much about it when writing, but when drawing it is awful.
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Might be the damaged SPen nib.My one was kinda wearing out so it justs does crazy stuff.Try replacing it to see if it works
Its not damaged, don't waste your money on a new one. It's Samsung's fault as they didn't fixed all the bugs in the firmware when they developed the product. I have lots of friends that use Note in school and everyone has this problem. That includes n8010 n8000 n8013.. The solution is either try using LectureNotes and apply some of the built in filters or try to teach yourself how to write in a way that there are no nibs. Also, be aware that some parts of the screen are more affected than other parts.
I think i might have insight here..
I recently looked into dev settings on my nexus 4 and set 'show pointer" out of curiosity. It is very interesting how the systems tells you not only the coordinates of the pointer, but the change in x- and y-coordinates, aka the speed of your finger as you glide. It also extrapolates where your finger would end up based on that speed, much like a momentum simulation.
I think whats happening here is that as you lift, you might flick the tip just a millimeter or so but at a high speed and the system extrapolates the line quite unnaturally. I might be wrong here tho, its just a theory.
Edit: looking back at the photo, notice that the lines happen as you lift the pen and not as you set it down..
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Happens to me too. I don't think that everyone here doesn't know how to lift a pen when they stop writing.
That doesn't make sense. It's a Samsung issue that I hope they fix in the next update.
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I have circled in green the correct lines, in red the stray ones.
Why does it behave this way? It is no even co sistent, that is it does not happen always on the same spot
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Does your case have a magnet on it? Sometimes magnets mess with Note 10.1 S-Pen.
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Does your case have a magnet on it? Sometimes magnets mess with Note 10.1 S-Pen.
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I have the original samsung case that yes, have small magnets on the edge and in the middle
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I have the original samsung case that yes, have small magnets on the edge and in the middle
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The original samsung case shouldn't give any problems,. but try taking it out for a while and see how that goes.
If not, call Samsung Support.
So far, I'm not able to replicate the stray line issues here, but my case (some generic flip cover with an elastic band to hold it shut) does not have magnets because I was concerned about the effect on the s-pen behavior so it could be that.
However, in terms of a fix you could try adjusting the sensitivity of your s-pen itself.
CAUTION!! you may damage it by doing so, I'm not responsible etc etc, do at your own risk !! ---
The click button along the side of the s-pen (with the ridges in it) is remove-able and underneath it is a screw you can adjust (in very small increments please) to adjust the sensitivity of the pen. The screw NEAREST the pen tip (there are two screws next to each other) is what you would adjust --- going CLOCKWISE to DECREASE sensitivity, and COUNTER-CLOCKWISE to INCREASE sensitivity.
I adjusted it to be slightly less sensitive as my pen was registering on the screen sometimes without touching it --- it appears that the tail-ended portions of your E's may also be a result of over-sensitivity.
YMMV of course