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Siyah kernel 3.1RC6 and BRICKED GALAXY S2

On 22.4.2012 many people bricked their S2 while performing full wipe having Siyah kernel 3.1RC6.
What disappointed me is the update on development coming from developer in real hurry these days.
Developer need to test their development 1000 times before releasing it to users.
As a rule only we the user are responsible flashed kernel knowing the risk of RCs and BETAs.
We can't blame developer for this disaster.........
This thread is for those who bricked S2 and now are in process to recover their devices.
As a general habit, posts on bricked devices can be avoided easily by fan boys.
So now we need to help each other in the process of device recovery.
Please discuss here, what you are doing, any fix whether you found or not.
Thanks
Kachrukamble

kachrukamble said:
Yesterday many people bricked their S2 while performing full wipe having Siyah kernel 3.1RC6..
What disappointed me is the update on development coming from developer in real hurry these days.
Developer need to test their development 1000 times before releasing it to users
As a rule only we the user are responsible flashed kernel knowing the risk of RCs and BETAs.
We can't blame developer for this disaster, BUT.........
This thread is for those who bricked S2 and now are in process to recover their devices.
As a general habit, posts on bricked devices can be easily avoided by fan boys.
So now we need to help each other in the process of device recovery.
Please discuss here, what you are doing, any fix whether you found or not.
I will add Names for those who bricked S2 in OP
Thanks
Kachrukamble
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Sad story bro. I know that feeling.
GM must be happy to hear that
Sent via my s2 monster

release candidate = not final = beta = not fully tested =still bugs = bricked = bug = because still beta= your own risk = your fault. Hope this helps.
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Thanks for the info buddy. I'm in RC6 only. I was planning to do a full wipe and try out a ROM, and luckily I saw your post. Do let us know if you find a fix (for bricked phones). So can I just flash Siyah v3.1 and this problem will go away?

RobinRichard said:
Thanks for the info buddy. I'm in RC6 only. I was planning to do a full wipe and try out a ROM, and luckily I saw your post. Do let us know if you find a fix (for bricked phones). So can I just flash Siyah v3.1 and this problem will go away?
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of course you can flash 3.1, it solves the issue. only the last updated rc6 had the problem. IF you are on rc6 better flash the updated kernel before doing any factory reset/data wipe to be in the safer side.
So did any one had a chance to solve it without going to service center??

bala_gamer said:
of course you can flash 3.1, it solves the issue. only the last updated rc6 had the problem. IF you are on rc6 better flash the updated kernel before doing any factory reset/data wipe to be in the safer side.
So did any one had a chance to solve it without going to service center??
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What the hell happened? Efs cleared?
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I'm one of the "lucky" owners of a bricked-by-Siyah phone
I tried to flash a stock rom with odin but it doesn't work. I tried with:
- KI3, which is a 3-file-fw + .pit. The flash process hangs on data.img
- ILA2, which is a 1-file-fw. The flash with Odin is successful, but the phone can't boot and stays on the "Samsung Galaxy S2" screen all the time.
The only way to access recovery I found is to flash rogue recovery, but it can't mount internal sdcard so I can't flash anything

Ghost-of-the-Sun said:
I'm one of the "lucky" owners of a bricked-by-Siyah phone
I tried to flash a stock rom with odin but it doesn't work. I tried with:
- KI3, which is a 3-file-fw + .pit. The flash process hangs on data.img
- ILA2, which is a 1-file-fw. The flash with Odin is successful, but the phone can't boot and stays on the "Samsung Galaxy S2" screen all the time.
The only way to access recovery I found is to flash rogue recovery, but it can't mount internal sdcard so I can't flash anything
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if you can access download mode, then you have many ways to recover your s2 without reaching SC

RobinRichard said:
Thanks for the info buddy. I'm in RC6 only. I was planning to do a full wipe and try out a ROM, and luckily I saw your post. Do let us know if you find a fix (for bricked phones). So can I just flash Siyah v3.1 and this problem will go away?
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Happy to hear that you saved, many people didnt
Sent from my HTC EVO 3D X515m using Tapatalk

bala_gamer said:
if you can access download mode, then you have many ways to recover your s2 without reaching SC
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Yes I can access it, but the internal sdcard is never mounted so I can't use my phone... I hope somebody will find and share a fix for this problem :-(

Unless the hardware is damaged, every full-bricked Galaxy S2 can be recovered witha J-tag repair.
If one does not have the hardware hardware to perform such a repair, he has to either purchase it or find somebody that has it nearby.

Ghost-of-the-Sun said:
Yes I can access it, but the internal sdcard is never mounted so I can't use my phone... I hope somebody will find and share a fix for this problem :-(
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Did anyone try flashing a boot loader? Nothing to lose now really
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Mine is bricked, partly due to me not reading the posts. I'm able to get into download mode, will have a play with Odin on the off chance something fixes it but I guess it's unlikely...

Ghost-of-the-Sun said:
Yes I can access it, but the internal sdcard is never mounted so I can't use my phone... I hope somebody will find and share a fix for this problem :-(
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Try to enter 3e recovery and factory reset phone and see what happens mate. Wait for like 5 mins and if buttons light up ur good...
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Dang I'm on siyah rc6 still running, if I flash 3.1 or another kernel its safe right?
Its safe using cwm app

is CWM available at all on Siyah bricked mobiles?

bartoloandre98 said:
Dang I'm on siyah rc6 still running, if I flash 3.1 or another kernel its safe right?
Its safe using cwm app
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flash immediately 3.1 without wipe
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itchetrigr said:
is CWM available at all on Siyah bricked mobiles?
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its available but working with errors because of the mount problem of some partitions.

itchetrigr said:
is CWM available at all on Siyah bricked mobiles?
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Bricked means dead in this case, you can't do anything with dead piece..

Well this just reinforces my belief to stick with stock kernels.
To the people with bricked phones, hope you guys are able to unbrick it without too much pain!

Does anyone know how to find a jtag service in korea, seoul? my phone is fully bricked and i need it back asap ....

LPY ROM. Performance is fine. Do i need to worry?

I have flashed my rooted SGN to LPY ROM using mobile ODIN. First two days i had issues however now it seems fine.
1. Battery working fine 24Hrs on average with single charge (With 3G and Wifi on always)
2. No issues with screen or swype.
3. No issues with any other apps as of now
With all the Kernel related posts i'm a little worried. My phone kernel also shows as XXLPY. Please suggest if I need to do anythig to fix it.
Sent from my GT-N7000 using XDA

just do not do any full wipe, either from phone or CWM and you should be safe.

cracklenet said:
I have flashed my rooted SGN to LPY ROM using mobile ODIN. First two days i had issues however now it seems fine.
1. Battery working fine 24Hrs on average with single charge (With 3G and Wifi on always)
2. No issues with screen or swype.
3. No issues with any other apps as of now
With all the Kernel related posts i'm a little worried. My phone kernel also shows as XXLPY. Please suggest if I need to do anythig to fix it.
Sent from my GT-N7000 using XDA
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Danger lies in changing ROMs, as long as you keep it you're safe.
Should you decide to flash sth different, then read the instructions several times, then again, and one more time, part of the bricks happened due to small mistakes by experienced flashers.
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Is Full wipe and Factory Reset the same?
After installing the ROM i had done a factory reset. Nothing happemed but for some setting changes. I'm able the use without issues.
Please advise.
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cracklenet said:
Is Full wipe and Factory Reset the same?
After installing the ROM i had done a factory reset. Nothing happemed but for some setting changes. I'm able the use without issues.
Please advise.
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yeah someone pls reply to this question cause i flashed LPY twice and i did the factory reset and cleared the cache but did not get any problem.

I also flashed and wiped a couple of times while in LPY. I'm having no problems so far, but I read someone tried to flash with PC Odin and brocked because his eMMC was ALREADY damaged.
Is there a way to know if my device has some kind of damage?

aami.aami said:
yeah someone pls reply to this question cause i flashed LPY twice and i did the factory reset and cleared the cache but did not get any problem.
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Wipe data/factory reset is where the problem lies. You can do it and be fine but you could do it again and be bricked. I did a wipe after install before the problem was known.
Just do what has already been posted don't factory reset from cwm or settings. If changing rom read everything several times before flashing
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cracklenet said:
I have flashed my rooted SGN to LPY ROM using mobile ODIN. First two days i had issues however now it seems fine.
1. Battery working fine 24Hrs on average with single charge (With 3G and Wifi on always)
2. No issues with screen or swype.
3. No issues with any other apps as of now
With all the Kernel related posts i'm a little worried. My phone kernel also shows as XXLPY. Please suggest if I need to do anythig to fix it.
Sent from my GT-N7000 using XDA
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I am in the same boat as you bro. I think that you should stick to ICS for now. I am doing the same. It seems that google and samsung are already aware of this bug so i choose to wait instead of risking a bad flash. It seems that none of the methods are 100% right now so just i recommend you stick to ICS just be cautious and don't delete large files (larger than 1gb) and don't use CWM nor factory reset for now... In the end we are lucky we didnt get our devices bricked in the first place.

yllivia said:
I am in the same boat as you bro. I think that you should stick to ICS for now. I am doing the same. It seems that google and samsung are already aware of this bug so i choose to wait instead of risking a bad flash. It seems that none of the methods are 100% right now so just i recommend you stick to ICS just be cautious and don't delete large files (larger than 1gb) and don't use CWM nor factory reset for now... In the end we are lucky we didnt get our devices bricked in the first place.
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there is already new ICS LPF, reportedly safe and faster than LPY - there is also/already dr ketan's guide on whats and hows

yllivia said:
I am in the same boat as you bro. I think that you should stick to ICS for now. I am doing the same. It seems that google and samsung are already aware of this bug so i choose to wait instead of risking a bad flash. It seems that none of the methods are 100% right now so just i recommend you stick to ICS just be cautious and don't delete large files (larger than 1gb) and don't use CWM nor factory reset for now... In the end we are lucky we didnt get our devices bricked in the first place.
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yea ,,in the same boat as well and equally confused man .....
wish thr was a magic wand for this to fix it ,,,lol
so i guess most of us are finally deciding to stay on LPY even after entropy is saying to stay away from LPY ?
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p107r0 said:
there is already new ICS LPF, reportedly safe and faster than LPY - there is also/already dr ketan's guide on whats and hows
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u see the issue with that idea is that most of us have already wiped the cache after installing LPY so now trying to go to LPF cud potentially result in bricking it .....what do ?

p107r0 said:
there is already new ICS LPF, reportedly safe and faster than LPY - there is also/already dr ketan's guide on whats and hows
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From what i have read LPF has 0x19 firmware therefore has potentialy the same problem with bricking
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Being afraid of the bug I flashed a rooted GB kernel before using Odin to upgrade from LPY to LPF The bug is apparently in the way the kernel sets the emmc chip erase process This apparently mainly affects the /data partition so flashing a gb kernel should be safe. I then used odin to update to the newer firmware.
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gurnishdhillon said:
yea ,,in the same boat as well and equally confused man .....
wish thr was a magic wand for this to fix it ,,,lol
so i guess most of us are finally deciding to stay on LPY even after entropy is saying to stay away from LPY ?
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u see the issue with that idea is that most of us have already wiped the cache after installing LPY so now trying to go to LPF cud potentially result in bricking it .....what do ?
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As far as i know there has been no reports of bricks on LPF but most of the people that flashed LPF flashed it from GB. We in the other hand are stuck we might have a leftover from flashing LPY. I would rather risk downgrading to GB then jumping to another unsettled ship. I am staying here just taking precautions NOT to use Recovery nor any kind of thing that involves wiping data.
Originally Posted by Chainfire
Ok so it still isn't really clear if the problem is still present in LPY, or if the issue is "left-over" due to previous ROMs.
It's all possible. Either way, what I wan't to make absolutely clear again:
If the problem is present in CF-Root LPY (and it's not a "leftover" problem from previous ROM - this is possibly the case), then it's also present in stock LPY. This means you *can* randomly brick your phone even if fully booted into Android, under heavy I/O load.
(on the Note there normal and recovery kernels are the same, and CWM is just a userspace program, nothing special(!) - so if the problem can happen in CWM, it can happen in Android)
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gurnishdhillon said:
yea ,,in the same boat as well and equally confused man .....
wish thr was a magic wand for this to fix it ,,,lol
so i guess most of us are finally deciding to stay on LPY even after entropy is saying to stay away from LPY ?
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u see the issue with that idea is that most of us have already wiped the cache after installing LPY so now trying to go to LPF cud potentially result in bricking it .....what do ?
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What you can do is only swap the kernel using mobile odin. I swapped it with the LPF CF-Kernel and everything is fine. But be advised, LPF has not been confirmed to be save yet.
Sent from my Galaxy Note running ICS

cracklenet said:
Is Full wipe and Factory Reset the same?
After installing the ROM i had done a factory reset. Nothing happemed but for some setting changes. I'm able the use without issues.
Please advise.
Sent from my GT-N7000 using XDA
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Yes. The problem is intermittent - you can often wipe once or twice, sometimes even ten times, before getting nailed.
Others (like xplodwild) get nailed the first time.

craig432 said:
From what i have read LPF has 0x19 firmware therefore has potentialy the same problem with bricking
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No, XXLPY/ZSLPF don't "have" the eMMC firmware. The eMMC firmware is part of the eMMC chip itself - right now, whatever you have is what came with your phone. There is currently no way to change it.
The problem is that the firmware has a bug that will cause it to sometimes do VERY bad things if an erase command is sent to it:
I9100 update4 kernels don't support MMC ERASE at all - so they don't trigger the bug in the firmware in the first place
M250S Update5 does - So it triggers the bug - We don't have source for any other ICS kernel yet but I suspect they all have MMC_CAP_ERASE set
What I can't figure out is why Gingerbread isn't dangerous despite having MMC_CAP_ERASE set. I need to read in more detail, but it might be that even if the driver supports MMC_CAP_ERASE, some other change between 2.6.35 and 3.0 makes ERASE get used in situations it didn't get used in previously.
You need two things: buggy firmware (so far, nearly every Note and Exynos-based GS2 has this) and a kernel that will fire ERASE commands at the chip when wiping.
If a method can be found to update the flash chip's firmware, then XXLPY and ZSLPF will become safe when running on fixed chips.

Hey entropy is it possible to use the cm9 kernel with lpy? I'm assuming it is but don't want to take any risks

Somebody please shed light on this ?
- Is it possible that affected kernels inflict damage every time you perform factory reset or wipe data from recovery but it does not brick your phone.
But in future it might get bricked even on safe kernel just because you had used affected kernels ??
**** I had used recovery on LPY many times.

Samsung working on Emmc brick fix

More info and source credits here, thanks to codeworkx https://plus.google.com/111398485184813224730/posts/21pTYfTsCkB.
ATTENTION:
We've contacted Samsung about the problem where performing a mmc erase could hardbrick your phone (i9100, i9100g, n7000, m250 - MAG4FA, VYL00M, and KYL00M with firmware revision 0x19 // T989 and I727 with fw rev 0x12) if it's having a faulty emmc chip.
Read this thread for more informations about it: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1644364
They're working as hard as possible on a clean solution which will be ready soon.
Please be patient and try to not flash any leaked kernels or kernels based on sources where MMC_CAP_ERASE is present.
This app http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=27014974&postcount=1 can be used to identify if your phone is affected or not.
CM9 kernels are safe to flash.
Please share!
Update 14:56 CEST:
Patches will be out in form of new official ROMs and also sourcecode releases after testing, which might take some time.
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New Clarifications by Entropy : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=28416723&postcount=403 - Must Read.
To check whether your phone has the brick bug, download the Got Brickbug app from Chainfire: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1693704
Also do read the article on xda for more info.: http://www.xda-developers.com/android/samsung-diligently-working-towards-hardbrick-fix/

Nice!

That is a really good news after some time.
Sent from my GT-N7000 using Tapatalk 2

Good news!
Looking forward to see how Samsung solve this nightmare
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How many time to fix this Samsung BUG? How maby people need ti brick our 600€? If samsung knows why no first before? Grrrrr...
All hard work its from XDA devs!!!! Thank you devs!!
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Hmmm don't want to get my hopes up
But hmmm ok let's hope saw but how do we know is true ?
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nandihno said:
Hmmm don't want to get my hopes up
But hmmm ok let's hope saw but how do we know is true ?
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Teamhacksung dev codeworkx been in touch with Sammy guys so its genuine news...check link in op
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at least we now have some hope...hopefully...

So to be clear...
Can someone confirm the following is correct please?
I have a N7000 on official (german) ICS, with the dodgy mmc chip. I must have been lucky since ive flashed a bunch of roms (including CM9, back to gingerbread, then official ICS) without issue. Ive also done a few CWM backup and restores... phew!
1. Flashing anything from the phone itself (eg using mobile odin or CWM recovery) is a no-go (assuming it issues the erase command)
2. Flashing from the PC is OK ??? (via desktop ODIN)?
If 2 is untrue, how is sammy gonna issue an update (with the erase capability turned off) without bricking a load of phones during the update process? can they maybe provide a custom app which re-flashes the kernel without doing an erase first?
thanks
George

ripnetuk said:
Can someone confirm the following is correct please?
I have a N7000 on official (german) ICS, with the dodgy mmc chip. I must have been lucky since ive flashed a bunch of roms (including CM9, back to gingerbread, then official ICS) without issue. Ive also done a few CWM backup and restores... phew!
1. Flashing anything from the phone itself (eg using mobile odin or CWM recovery) is a no-go (assuming it issues the erase command)
2. Flashing from the PC is OK ??? (via desktop ODIN)?
If 2 is untrue, how is sammy gonna issue an update (with the erase capability turned off) without bricking a load of phones during the update process? can they maybe provide a custom app which re-flashes the kernel without doing an erase first?
thanks
George
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Flashing is not the problem but wiping is
So if they release a new update then simply don't wipe on your ics but wipe only after you install the new update
If however you want to be extra careful like I am
Flash a gb rom via odin then wipe that then flash said ics update via Odin
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While there have been brickage reports using either PC Odin or CWM, there have been none regarding Odin Mobile Pro. So, when I flashed back GB, I used Odin mobile Pro. Everything went smooth.

//troll mode activated
It's just like Microsoft patching windows vista
//troll mode off

This is a true victory for XDA developers!
My deepest respect for all of you guys :thumbup:!!

Are they releasing a fix for brickd phone or a prevention update?

blue_panther9_9 said:
Are they releasing a fix for brickd phone or a prevention update?
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Prevention.
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I really hope this mess will soon be over. Let's hope while they are resolving the brick bug they also take a look at the wakelock thing. Contrary to others I have encountered this problem very rarely (1 time so far). Nonetheless it would be nice to see a solution.
Sent from my Galaxy Note running ICS

Good news but given that we haven't seen ics roll out in all countries, who knows when this will get fixed.
Another thing that bugs me. Is there possibility that Samsung push the solution for this bug and carriers just ignore it and continue with pushing the infected ics?
I guess that all we need is just one good release and everyone can flash it.
Hope to see it soon.
Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Note using XDA app

ripnetuk said:
Can someone confirm the following is correct please?
If 2 is untrue, how is sammy gonna issue an update (with the erase capability turned off) without bricking a load of phones during the update process? can they maybe provide a custom app which re-flashes the kernel without doing an erase first?
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In all probability it might show a message over kies / OTA message asking to connect to kies on the comp .. and provide an update for kies desktop having 0din in it

ashoksoft said:
In all probability it might show a message over kies / OTA message asking to connect to kies on the comp .. and provide an update for kies desktop having 0din in it
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Update 14:56 CEST:
Patches will be out in form of new official ROMs and also sourcecode releases after testing, which might take some time.
Just updated op too

This is great news! Many thanks to entropy and chasmodo and all who've worked on this and sacrificed for us!
Also thanls to those who took it seriously.
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It was nice to meet you!!

It was nice 8 months experience,just Super bricked my Note while perfotming a wipe with CWM,too bad couldnt claim the warrenty.
Thanks for everyone who helped me during this period,both Developers and Members.
Jack

Sorry for your phone man.
Btw which kernel were you using?

Boy124 said:
Sorry for your phone man.
Btw which kernel were you using?
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German LRK DBT stock 4.0.4 and it was running fine no problems,just wiped it to test the Paranoid Android JB 4.1.1,which was actually the last thing it did.

I see. But you can't flash roms using stock recovery. Anyways it confirms the bug still exists.

What CWM did you use or did you wipe from stock recovery?
Does it give any sign of life?
If it boots you can use: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.vinagre.android.emmc_check
to see if you have emmc damage.

jgaviota said:
What CWM did you use or did you wipe from stock recovery?
Does it give any sign of life?
If it boots you can use: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.vinagre.android.emmc_check
to see if you have emmc damage.
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Unfortunately doesnt boot up,just stuck on the Gt-7000 logo but the download screen works,however when try to flash with PC Odin stops at the factoryfs.img which after research discovered is a Superbrick symptom.

hagba said:
too bad couldnt claim the warrenty.
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Hello hagba, since you cannot claim warranty have you thought of getting your device repaired via the Samsung service centre in your region?
I would suggest you to enquire about the repair cost and then make a suitable decision.

Have you tried this? it worked for many users.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=26285877

YLNdroid said:
Hello hagba, since you cannot claim warranty have you thought of getting your device repaired via the Samsung service centre in your region?
I would suggest you to enquire about the repair cost and then make a suitable decision.
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First thing on monday,

dr.ketan said:
Have you tried this? it worked for many users.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=26285877
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Dr.Ketan,
I have tried the PIT procedure,but its such a long and tedious process Im not sure will be able to make viable partition for normal usage.
However will see what Samsung does on Monday.

So does this mean that Stock ROMS are still unsafe to wipe rather than how samsung claims that Stock ROM wont brick?
Did you report this to Entropy? Did you wipe after flashing Paranoid ROM successfully or did you wipe on stock. If it was after succesfully flashing the CM10 based JB ROM, it should mean that CM10 doesnt have MMC_CAP_ERASE disabled or maybe no ICS kernel is safe.
Should report to Entropy if you didnt.

He already.wrote 'wipe it to test jb' means wiped on.stock.
Entropy aleeady aware of this (i have already reported 2 case on 4.0.4). And he hav mentioned on his thread, stock ics are known unsafe kernels.
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dr.ketan said:
He already.wrote 'wipe it to test jb' means wiped on.stock.
Entropy aleeady aware of this (i have already reported 2 case on 4.0.4). And he hav mentioned on his thread, stock ics are known unsafe kernels.
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I made a mistake of wiping twice from Settings under android in Indian Stock DDLP8 stock 4.0.3 but luckily never bricked. But now I take care not to. But do you think I may have caused damage in the first two wipes? I see no issues till now but just asked.

It cause damage once in while, not every wipe/reset result to brick (good if it was like that, sammy must have find solution then)
Still if you have any doubts find 'emmc brick bug' application from market n scan ur device.
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dr.ketan said:
It cause damage once in while, not every wipe/reset result to brick (good if it was like that, sammy must have find solution then)
Still if you have any doubts find 'emmc brick bug' application from market n scan ur device.
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I have the affected emmc firmware VYLOOM 0x19. Its just that I turned out to be lucky. I dont believe Samsung would fix the Indian firmware (4.0.3) while the bug remains on the latest 4.0.4 ROMS. If there is a fix from Samsung, we Indians are the ones who usually get it last. But strangely, I havent heard of any superbricked Indian Notes in this forum.

satishp said:
So does this mean that Stock ROMS are still unsafe to wipe rather than how samsung claims that Stock ROM wont brick?
Did you report this to Entropy? Did you wipe after flashing Paranoid ROM successfully or did you wipe on stock. If it was after succesfully flashing the CM10 based JB ROM, it should mean that CM10 doesnt have MMC_CAP_ERASE disabled or maybe no ICS kernel is safe.
Should report to Entropy if you didnt.
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I think Samsung's claim was that you won't get bricked if you stick to stock and don't root. I'm not saying that's true . Even seems unlikely since I think you can factory wipe from the settings without root, IIRC (memory's rusty, haven't been on a stock ROM for ages).
There were some bricks with CM10, but only from people who flashed from stock ICS or stock ICS based ROMs. Flashing from the safe ICS kernels seems to still be safe.
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But strangely, I havent heard of any superbricked Indian Notes in this forum.
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Maybe that's because Indians are careful enough to read the instructions before risking their device? I doubt it's because Indian Notes have had some special pixie dust sprinkled over them while they passed customs.

If you dont mod your device then how many chances are.there to make hard reset device?
I know lot ppl they purchasing and selling.device without single reset.
So rooting opens.100 ways to explore ur device, simultaneously opens 100 ways to put u in situation,u needs reset. That is the only reason rate.of bricking is high with rooted device, but if you read carefully and avoid reset/wiping there is almost zero chances to brick.
And yes if you look, compare to selling of notes in india, u don't see indians are quite less on forum?
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dr.ketan said:
If you dont mod your device then how many chances are.there to make hard reset device?
I know lot ppl they purchasing and selling.device without single reset.
So rooting opens.100 ways to explore ur device, simultaneously opens 100 ways to put u in situation,u needs reset. That is the only reason rate.of bricking is high with rooted device, but if you read carefully and avoid reset/wiping there is almost zero chances to brick.
And yes if you look, compare to selling of notes in india, u don't see indians are quite less on forum?
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I'm really worried because you said if I avoid wiping I'm almost zero chance of briking.. I got my note clean, I mean I don't dare to put music and movies into it because then I don't dare to delete all those files... Will this brick my phone? I'm stock 4.0.4 rooted
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Obviously the culprit is wiping with CWM,I have factory Reset million times with no consequences at all,and just once with CWM was enough to Superbrick it,and yes I was on stock ROM.

msedek said:
I'm really worried because you said if I avoid wiping I'm almost zero chance of briking.. I got my note clean, I mean I don't dare to put music and movies into it because then I don't dare to delete all those files... Will this brick my phone? I'm stock 4.0.4 rooted
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It says big files shudn't be deleted. Though frankly speaking i have not seen any case brick by that, though we cant ignore comments from recognised developer.
But wat best idea i found to manage file is
Connect device with PC as mass storage and manage files from PC explorer. I believe that is safe way.
hagba said:
Obviously the culprit is wiping with CWM,I have factory Reset million times with no consequences at all,and just once with CWM was enough to Superbrick it,and yes I was on stock ROM.
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That was your bad luck this time, otherwise both have same effect.

Ics 4.0.3 xxlpy

Without looking I upgraded my Note N7000 from Gingerbread to ICS XXPLY which is a version with the dreaded brick bug. Not only did I install it OTA but I was having problems and actually did a hard reset yesterday. The phone is running fine but I have read that it's best to return to Gingerbread until the problem is resolved. Does that seem to be the consensus?
I'd appreciate your opinion.

humphster said:
Without looking I upgraded my Note N7000 from Gingerbread to ICS XXPLY which is a version with the dreaded brick bug. Not only did I install it OTA but I was having problems and actually did a hard reset yesterday. The phone is running fine but I have read that it's best to return to Gingerbread until the problem is resolved. Does that seem to be the consensus?
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it all depends on how you feel about ICS, the brickbug itself should not happen under normal usage, only when you try to fectory reset / wipe operations,
so without doing those the only time you should be careful is when attempting to flash new ROMs (which may require you going with additional intermediate GB / safe kernel flashing - the safety instructions are always in the ROM thread),
the only thing I'd suggest - should you decide to stick with stock ICS - is upgrading to a newer version, like recent LRG (reportedly LPY was the worst ICS ROM in terms of battery life and performance)

Not only lpy, all ics stock roms having this bug. If you are worrying abt wiping you made, just find 'emmc brick bug' from market n scan device, if it nit damaged, then it shud pass.
If you are happy with ics then you can stay on it, but avoid wiping/reset.
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dr.ketan said:
Not only lpy, all ics stock roms having this bug. If you are worrying abt wiping you made, just find 'emmc brick bug' from market n scan device, if it nit damaged, then it shud pass.
If you are happy with ics then you can stay on it, but avoid wiping/reset.
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I downloaded the app and ran it. The "Verdict" was the the emmc chip (VYLOOM) is known to have the brick chip.
As I understand it, however, you are advising to go back to gingerbread or leave it alone.
I like ICS but not more than having my phone.
Thanks for your reply.

humphster said:
I downloaded the app and ran it. The "Verdict" was the the emmc chip (VYLOOM) is known to have the brick chip.
As I understand it, however, you are advising to go back to gingerbread or leave it alone.
I like ICS but not more than having my phone.
Thanks for your reply.
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i say keep ICS and just download a safe kernel if ur into flashing custom roms.
You can stick with the stock kernel if you want just refrain from doing a factory reset

Thanks
chickentuna said:
i say keep ICS and just download a safe kernel if ur into flashing custom roms.
You can stick with the stock kernel if you want just refrain from doing a factory reset
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I think I'll just hang on to what I've got and wait for the cavalry from Samsung.
Thanks to everybody.