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[Q] Apps2sd without custom flashed ROM

Sorry, if this sounds newbee, I'm kind of new to the whole cusotmizing phones. I just rooted my 2.1 HTC Eris phone to get SU access, which worked great with help from this site. I used the 1 click root app and i kept the stock OS ROM. Worked like a charm. Anyways I'm want to get the ability to download apps to my SD card, however I do not want to flash a custom ROM. I want to keep on using the stock HTC Sense UI, not to mention I don't want to redo my whole phone after a flash. Is this possible. I've searched the forum but every mention of A2SD seems to come with a custom ROM. Any assistance would be much appreciated.

Probably the easiest way to get apps to your sd card is to flash XTR Sense. It I sherry close to the stock rom but is optimized for stability and speed. It also has the easiest method to start apps2sd.
I would do a nand back of your phone. So you can always return to this pot if you don't like the new rom. Do both wipes data and dalvik and flash the xtr rom.
I think most people report being much more happy with this than the stock ui.

Thanks for the info, I was affraid of that. that xtrasense does look pretty good. I think i'll go that route.

Jp50 said:
Probably the easiest way to get apps to your sd card is to flash XTR Sense. It I sherry close to the stock rom but is optimized for stability and speed. It also has the easiest method to start apps2sd.
I would do a nand back of your phone. So you can always return to this pot if you don't like the new rom. Do both wipes data and dalvik and flash the xtr rom.
I think most people report being much more happy with this than the stock ui.
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Just in case the OP still hasn't taken the plunge, +1 what Jp50 said. Been using xtrSENSE for weeks and am loving it. I've never settled on one custom ROM for such a long time before I started using xtrSENSE.
Just make sure and read the first post or two thoroughly.

killroy77 said:
Thanks for the info, I was affraid of that. that xtrasense does look pretty good. I think i'll go that route.
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Once you get a custom rom, you can overclock! That alone is worth it to me. If you like custom roms, you can check out TheCookieRom. It's a feature loaded rom if that's what you want. The link is in my sig.

killroy77 said:
not to mention I don't want to redo my whole phone after a flash.
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Use a backup app for your apps and your contacts if you don't want to get those from the google server.
Oh and NANDROID IS YOUR FRIEND!!! I don't know how to stress that more but if you mess something up, you can restore from nandroid and POOF! All better.

Thanks for the reply, I got the NANDROID backup figured out and completed, I just need to figure out how to backup my aps.

killroy77 said:
Thanks for the reply, I got the NANDROID backup figured out and completed, I just need to figure out how to backup my aps.
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I recommend MyBackup Pro. It seems to restore more of my apps than Titanium Backup (even the latest version - just tested it the other day when I flashed an update to xtrSENSE).

It's been a while. I need some advice.

Hello,
It's been a while since I have played around with rooting and tinkering with my Evo 4G.
Right now I have it rooted and a few apps like ROM Manager, SuperUser and such installed. I'm currently running 2.2.
I would like to get updated with the newest rooted stock OS. I need this phone to work and would also like to maintain stability and improve battery life.
I found the details at: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=790427 as how to 'After rooting, how do I install a ROM?'
Which ROM is recommended to keep as close to as stock while still giving me root capabilities and apps?
Is there a version I should avoid do to age / hardware of phone?
I was thinking of this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1319881
or from this list:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Supersonic/ROMs#Stock_ROMs
#8, the OTA version.
Any suggestions or comments on either, others, my process?
Thanks.

Does it have to be a stock rom? If not, i suggest MikG or evolved recharged.
They're both pretty good roms

maxarbos said:
Hello,
It's been a while since I have played around with rooting and tinkering with my Evo 4G.
Right now I have it rooted and a few apps like ROM Manager, SuperUser and such installed. I'm currently running 2.2.
I would like to get updated with the newest rooted stock OS. I need this phone to work and would also like to maintain stability and improve battery life.
I found the details at: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=790427 as how to 'After rooting, how do I install a ROM?'
Which ROM is recommended to keep as close to as stock while still giving me root capabilities and apps?
Is there a version I should avoid do to age / hardware of phone?
I was thinking of this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1319881
or from this list:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Supersonic/ROMs#Stock_ROMs
#8, the OTA version.
Any suggestions or comments on either, others, my process?
Thanks.
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You're all good with hardware and such, just pick which ever rooted stock rom you like,wipe,flash and reboot.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/HTC_Supersonic/ROMs
Here's a list of some ROMs you could try out. Look under Custom ROMs.
Just make sure you have a backup of your current ROM just in case.

thanks for the replys.
Just so i have this right..
I am going to choose OTA-#8 from http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Supersonic/ROMs#Stock_ROMs
This looks like the newest stock rooted ROM, correct?
I have everything backed up and see the docs, but have one last quesiton:
How do I restore all my contacts, apps, configs, etc once I do this?
I rooted and did this when I got the phone and built on top of it, but from the description of the backups, it's backing up the entire config of the phone (like an image). I would imagine that I dont try to reinstall all my apps from that one, right?
Thanks.

maxarbos said:
thanks for the replys.
Just so i have this right..
I am going to choose OTA-#8 from http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Supersonic/ROMs#Stock_ROMs
This looks like the newest stock rooted ROM, correct?
I have everything backed up and see the docs, but have one last quesiton:
How do I restore all my contacts, apps, configs, etc once I do this?
I rooted and did this when I got the phone and built on top of it, but from the description of the backups, it's backing up the entire config of the phone (like an image). I would imagine that I dont try to reinstall all my apps from that one, right?
Thanks.
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According to that URL, OTA Update #11 is the newest OTA available. Before you switch back to stock though you should check out these ROMs by -TeamBlaze-.

[Q] First time Tablet/Android buyer.

Hello all,
I just ordered a new Note 10.1 from Costco.com (32 gig) and from reading reviews and such I was thrown into the world of rooting. For my job, we were given iPhones so I've really only had an iPhone and am used to the iOS. Not a fan. Have always wanted to try Android but have never been thrown into it.
Are there any good guides out there to help me better understand rooting, etc.? I understand that you have to unlock it, then flash a custom ROM. What happens when the newer version of that ROM comes out? Do you lose all of your Data? Can any mod be installed on any ROM? I just don't have a good understanding of how or what to do. Granted, I don't even have the tablet yet, however, I don't want to be completely lost when I get it. I do like the idea of rooting, given that you can install powerful apps that are only offered to rooted tablets.
This is my first post here and am hoping for some helpful responses of maybe some threads that I should read to help me understand things better.
Also, where do you find custom ROMS? Is there a certain section you have to go? Or are all the custom ROMS under the ANDROID DEVELOPMENT forum?
Thanks for the help.

Rooting gives you access to the base files of your device. Your device does not need to be "unlocked." That term refers to modifying the device to work with other carriers (i.e. Sprint, ATT, etc) other than the one it was built to work with. Basically, in order to root, you must first install a custom "recovery." CWM (Clockwork Mod Recovery) is probably the best one for our Notes. The recovery files can be downloaded in the development forums. Along with the program (Odin) that you use to get the recovery installed onto your Note. Once you have CWM installed you can then use a couple of different methods to root or install a custom rom that is already rooted (again look for these roms in the development areas of this forum). Make sure that you read and re-read the instructions that each developer lists on their forum until you feel comfortable and then follow the instructions to the letter! Not doing so can result in your Note really getting messed up. I have not rooted my note yet, however I have rooted and installed custom ROMs to several android phones that I have or have had and it can be really worth it to do so. Personally I am waiting for awhile with my Note for some easier and more reliable methods and ROMs to become available. Right now, I have a Samsung Infuse phone with CM10 installed and a Samsung Captivate with Slim Rom-Jellybean on it. I believe that early versions of both of these ROMs are already available for the Note 10.1. Of the two ROMs, I would probably go with CM10 - (Cyanogen Mod) as it seems to be more stable on my phones. Also, when you install a custom ROM on the Note 10.1, there is a binary counter that advances, that lets anyone who would have to work on it (like for warranty service), know that a custom ROM was installed and that would violate your warranty. There is already a modification available (again, in the development section), that resets this counter, so make sure that you research that too! Good Luck!!!

wd4oay said:
Rooting gives you access to the base files of your device. Your device does not need to be "unlocked." That term refers to modifying the device to work with other carriers (i.e. Sprint, ATT, etc) other than the one it was built to work with. Basically, in order to root, you must first install a custom "recovery." CWM (Clockwork Mod Recovery) is probably the best one for our Notes. The recovery files can be downloaded in the development forums. Along with the program (Odin) that you use to get the recovery installed onto your Note. Once you have CWM installed you can then use a couple of different methods to root or install a custom rom that is already rooted (again look for these roms in the development areas of this forum). Make sure that you read and re-read the instructions that each developer lists on their forum until you feel comfortable and then follow the instructions to the letter! Not doing so can result in your Note really getting messed up. I have not rooted my note yet, however I have rooted and installed custom ROMs to several android phones that I have or have had and it can be really worth it to do so. Personally I am waiting for awhile with my Note for some easier and more reliable methods and ROMs to become available. Right now, I have a Samsung Infuse phone with CM10 installed and a Samsung Captivate with Slim Rom-Jellybean on it. I believe that early versions of both of these ROMs are already available for the Note 10.1. Of the two ROMs, I would probably go with CM10 - (Cyanogen Mod) as it seems to be more stable on my phones. Also, when you install a custom ROM on the Note 10.1, there is a binary counter that advances, that lets anyone who would have to work on it (like for warranty service), know that a custom ROM was installed and that would violate your warranty. There is already a modification available (again, in the development section), that resets this counter, so make sure that you research that too! Good Luck!!!
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What are some of the main benefits to rooting then? I would think that if you have rooted a lot of phones you would for sure want your tablet rooted..?? Can you still perform mods to your tablet if it's NOT rooted? I saw someone with a cube on their homescreen with all their apps on it. It was 3D and pretty sweet looking. Will I be able to do stuff like that if I keep it stock.
Another thing, I read that you can't put apps on the expandable storage unless you root it...That is something I would like to do because I plan on putting games on it and such. Seems crappy you can't install some of the bigger apps on your 64 gig sd.

A lot is going to depend on which version of software you get initially on your tablet. Do not, I repeat, DO NOT let your tablet update the software when you first get it. The reason I say this is, if you have the older version of the software there is a very simple way to root your device. It's a simple install of one program and pushing a button. Very very easy.
If you get lucky and you get the older software and then root using the program I'm talking about, the next step is to spend $5 and buy Mobile Odin Pro. You can then download from here the latest software for your device and flash it using Mobile Odin with the ever root option. This will keep root on your new software. This will put you on the latest stock software and keep you rooted.
Custom ROMs can be nice. But I'd get my feet wet with the stock ROM before you start to jump into the Customs. First, stock on the Note 10.1 is pretty damn good. Second, you need to have some familiarity with what you want to be able to choose the right custom ROM to suit your needs. Finally, you'll give yourself some time to learn about your device so that you don't make a fatal mistake flashing, though most can be flashed using Mobile Odin.
Alas, if you get your Note and it turns out to have the latest ROM already, you can pretty much ignore everything I wrote.

just to give you one more thing to think about.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1957002
stock is nice btw

midas69 said:
A lot is going to depend on which version of software you get initially on your tablet. Do not, I repeat, DO NOT let your tablet update the software when you first get it. The reason I say this is, if you have the older version of the software there is a very simple way to root your device. It's a simple install of one program and pushing a button. Very very easy.
If you get lucky and you get the older software and then root using the program I'm talking about, the next step is to spend $5 and buy Mobile Odin Pro. You can then download from here the latest software for your device and flash it using Mobile Odin with the ever root option. This will keep root on your new software. This will put you on the latest stock software and keep you rooted.
Custom ROMs can be nice. But I'd get my feet wet with the stock ROM before you start to jump into the Customs. First, stock on the Note 10.1 is pretty damn good. Second, you need to have some familiarity with what you want to be able to choose the right custom ROM to suit your needs. Finally, you'll give yourself some time to learn about your device so that you don't make a fatal mistake flashing, though most can be flashed using Mobile Odin.
Alas, if you get your Note and it turns out to have the latest ROM already, you can pretty much ignore everything I wrote.
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That's good to know. Thank you.
jaydubbbbs said:
just to give you one more thing to think about.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1957002
stock is nice btw
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Thank you. I'll check that out. Now, the process that you linked me to, will that give me the latest version ROM (4.2.1?). Another thing, once I root it, will I be able to have the Tablet automatically update and download 4.3, 4.4, etc. and so on? or will I have to manually download and install the new one every time it comes out?

I read in sammobile that samsung will launch Note 8.0, it is true?
What do you think?

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deeselcyde said:
That's good to know. Thank you.
Thank you. I'll check that out. Now, the process that you linked me to, will that give me the latest version ROM (4.2.1?). Another thing, once I root it, will I be able to have the Tablet automatically update and download 4.3, 4.4, etc. and so on? or will I have to manually download and install the new one every time it comes out?
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I have rooted several phones but not this tablet. Why? because for me the stock rom is good enough that I personally dont see an advantage to rooting it. Some like to root and install roms for the fun of it but I need the tablet to work and dont have time to futs around with getting to know a new rom.
I also have the impression,correct me if I'm wrong, that with custom roms you loose some of the multiscreen functionality and some of the pen functionality? If true that alone would keep me on stock.

optimus43 said:
I have rooted several phones but not this tablet. Why? because for me the stock rom is good enough that I personally dont see an advantage to rooting it. Some like to root and install roms for the fun of it but I need the tablet to work and dont have time to futs around with getting to know a new rom.
I also have the impression,correct me if I'm wrong, that with custom roms you loose some of the multiscreen functionality and some of the pen functionality? If true that alone would keep me on stock.
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There's more reasons to root other than just flashing custom ROMs. As a matter of fact, you really don't even have to root to install a custom ROM, you just need a custom recovery installed.
Personally I'm fine with the stock ROM on this tablet even though I run custom ROMs on my phones. I did have a custom ROM installed for a few weeks that was little more than the stock ROM with a few tweaks. It didn't lose any functionality with regards to multi-screen or pen. But some of the other more customized ROMs do lose functionality.

optimus43 said:
I have rooted several phones but not this tablet. Why? because for me the stock rom is good enough that I personally dont see an advantage to rooting it. Some like to root and install roms for the fun of it but I need the tablet to work and dont have time to futs around with getting to know a new rom.
I also have the impression,correct me if I'm wrong, that with custom roms you loose some of the multiscreen functionality and some of the pen functionality? If true that alone would keep me on stock.
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The only thing I care about is having the ability to install Google Apps that can only be installed on rooted ROMS. I've read that there are a lot of great apps for rooted ONLY tablets. Also, some of those 3D cube thingy's that have all the app icons on it are kind of cool. I don't know if you can install those on a stock ROM..??

deeselcyde said:
That's good to know. Thank you.
Thank you. I'll check that out. Now, the process that you linked me to, will that give me the latest version ROM (4.2.1?). Another thing, once I root it, will I be able to have the Tablet automatically update and download 4.3, 4.4, etc. and so on? or will I have to manually download and install the new one every time it comes out?
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no, it leaves the firmware as is and it simply gives you root access, i.e. administrative control over just about all processes that the tablet is capable of. It also allows you to flash custom ROMS. that method, along with the exynos exploit method ( not possible on 4.1.2), leave you as close to stock as possible . and leaves the official recovery. Someone will undoubtedly correct me if I am wrong, but so long as you don't flash a custom ROM, I believe you can still update through OTA. I know you can through KIES. If you do go with a custom ROM, I'm pretty sure you lose all the touch wiz goodies, like multi screen as another noted above. and likely would have to use ODIN or mobile ODIN to update.

deeselcyde said:
What are some of the main benefits to rooting then? I would think that if you have rooted a lot of phones you would for sure want your tablet rooted..?? Can you still perform mods to your tablet if it's NOT rooted? I saw someone with a cube on their homescreen with all their apps on it. It was 3D and pretty sweet looking. Will I be able to do stuff like that if I keep it stock.
Another thing, I read that you can't put apps on the expandable storage unless you root it...That is something I would like to do because I plan on putting games on it and such. Seems crappy you can't install some of the bigger apps on your 64 gig sd.
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Custom apps such as multi window manager. Custom roms if you wish. Overclock cpu with tegrak on stock rooted, it does sometimes come in handy to be safely overclocked. personally this tablet is so good off the shelf you dont NEED a custom rom but that overclock is good. Ability to access and change root files such as dolphin preference in order to make it work with flash player. More reliable backups of apps and data with titanium backup. There are a plethera of reasons for rooting a tablet. But do be cautious.

Don't forget you need root for AdAway. You also need root if you want to play around (very dangerous) with the build.prop file to try to install programs that the Play Store says aren't compatible.

deeselcyde said:
The only thing I care about is having the ability to install Google Apps that can only be installed on rooted ROMS. I've read that there are a lot of great apps for rooted ONLY tablets. Also, some of those 3D cube thingy's that have all the app icons on it are kind of cool. I don't know if you can install those on a stock ROM..??
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The 3d cube things I think your talking about are scroll effects, like cube, sphere or card stack. You dont need to be rooted for these, you can just download a launcher (nova, apex, adw) from the play store and change the effects in there.
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jaydubbbbs said:
just to give you one more thing to think about.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1957002
stock is nice btw
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One more question about that link. So once I follow the instructions provided in the link to root my Note 10.1, will I still have the custom ROM? And, will I be able to auto update from Samsung or whoever whenever a new version of the Android ROM comes out? I don't necessarily care about having someones custom ROM, I just want the benefits of using the GAPPS that I wouldn't be able to use if I wasn't rooted.
Thanks.

so many choices......Help.

Hello all, new Galaxy user here.....I came from 3D HTC. ok my questions...
1. I am already rooted, what back up , ROM and other stuff do I need to use. There are so many links to so many choices.
2. Which are the easiest to use? I'm not good with complicated options.

kinextions said:
Hello all, new Galaxy user here.....I came from 3D HTC. ok my questions...
1. I am already rooted, what back up , ROM and other stuff do I need to use. There are so many links to so many choices.
2. Which are the easiest to use? I'm not good with complicated options.
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First off, you don't NEED to use anything but what you have right? If for some reason you are not happy with what your phone comes with than it is all personal preference. I use TWRP for custom recovery/backups and is very easy to install via GooManager app. No flashing required, all touch based, and designed very friendly I think. As for roms, kernels, etc. they all pretty much install the same and will give different results. If you don't want to complicate things just stick with rooted stock unless it does not do something you need.

kinextions said:
Hello all, new Galaxy user here.....I came from 3D HTC. ok my questions...
1. I am already rooted, what back up , ROM and other stuff do I need to use. There are so many links to so many choices.
2. Which are the easiest to use? I'm not good with complicated options.
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The question to start with is, "What do you want your phone to do"?
Look at the capabilities of your phone with the stock ROM:
Are you happy with the way it works? (or can you make it work the way you want by changing the available options)? If so, don't do anything else
Are you not happy with some application? Can you download an app that fixes this? If so, don't do anything else
Are you not happy with the UI? Try out another launcher - if that works for you, don't do anything else
Are you not happy with the bloat on your phone? Can you disable that bloatware? If so, don't do anything else
Are you not happy with the bloat on your phone? If you can't disable that bloatware? If so, you need to root - and then, you can freeze or remove the bloat app
Do you just want to backup everything? If so, you may not need root to use titanium backup - see if Helium backup (by CWM) does the trick for you
Do you want to change everything about your ROM, or flash a new kernel to get better battery life, or get some feature that is not available on the stock ROM (but is available on a custom ROM)? Then, root, install custom recovery (like twrp or CWM), take nandroid backup, and then flash new ROM
To summarize, what do you want your phone to do?

jj14 said:
The question to start with is, "What do you want your phone to do"?
Look at the capabilities of your phone with the stock ROM:
Are you happy with the way it works? (or can you make it work the way you want by changing the available options)? If so, don't do anything else
Are you not happy with some application? Can you download an app that fixes this? If so, don't do anything else
Are you not happy with the UI? Try out another launcher - if that works for you, don't do anything else
Are you not happy with the bloat on your phone? Can you disable that bloatware? If so, don't do anything else
Are you not happy with the bloat on your phone? If you can't disable that bloatware? If so, you need to root - and then, you can freeze or remove the bloat app
Do you just want to backup everything? If so, you may not need root to use titanium backup - see if Helium backup (by CWM) does the trick for you
Do you want to change everything about your ROM, or flash a new kernel to get better battery life, or get some feature that is not available on the stock ROM (but is available on a custom ROM)? Then, root, install custom recovery (like twrp or CWM), take nandroid backup, and then flash new ROM
To summarize, what do you want your phone to do?
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I want the most current updates and best performance from my battery and signal. I also want WiFi tether for free to work.......

kinextions said:
I want the most current updates and best performance from my battery and signal. I also want WiFi tether for free to work.......
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For the moment, the stock ROM has the most current updates. (but I'm pretty sure the carriers will delay the release of the next update, so at that time, flashing a custom ROM may be the way to go)
WiFi Tether - you don't necessarily have to flash a custom ROM just for that - you can get that just by updating the services.* files (see the hotspot mod thread in the Android development forum - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2256950)
Best signal - you will get that based on the radios that are being used, and I believe the custom ROMs use the radios from Sprint as well.
Best battery - for that, you will need to pick a good kernel, so a custom ROM will probably be your best bet.
Hope that helps!

jj14 said:
For the moment, the stock ROM has the most current updates. (but I'm pretty sure the carriers will delay the release of the next update, so at that time, flashing a custom ROM may be the way to go)
WiFi Tether - you don't necessarily have to flash a custom ROM just for that - you can get that just by updating the services.* files (see the hotspot mod thread in the Android development forum - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2256950)
Best signal - you will get that based on the radios that are being used, and I believe the custom ROMs use the radios from Sprint as well.
Best battery - for that, you will need to pick a good kernel, so a custom ROM will probably be your best bet.
Hope that helps!
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Thank you for everything.....got the Hotspot working. More info than I expected. Great stuff.

kinextions said:
Thank you for everything.....got the Hotspot working. More info than I expected. Great stuff.
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Glad this info was helpful
Just remember to do a Nandroid backup before you flash any custom ROMs or make any changes to the kernel or the root folders.
Personally, I use the latest touch based version of TWRP (installed using goomanager in the play store) - but CWM works fine too.
Being able to revert back to the nandroid backup has saved my rear end more than once

1st time flash ROM - What a blast!

Hello all;
I thought I would share my root/flash ROM experience with others, not necessarily those who are pros, more folks like me, technically literate but this process is new.
I picked up my One the first day it was available, I had it pre-ordered from [email protected] and have been a long time iPhone user. I was tired of waiting for the jb and once I saw the specs on the One I was sold.
I was fine with Apex launcher and Widget locker for quite awhile, but then the mod bug started. I followed qbking77's vid's to perform the unlock and root. I made sure to backup everything with Helium and I also did a copy of my Android drive to my Mac just to make sure I had everything. I used Helium to Google Drive and that worked very well. I had to make sure to load Google Drive after the wipe and log into it before I was able to restore my data.
So I sat at root for awhile, but it was a matter of time until I flashed my 1st ROM, SinLessROM GE v3.6.2. After reading everything on here I could find, I decided on the SinLess Rom. I always say, never start something technical late, but I did not heed my own advice. I used Titanium to do my backup, along with Helium again. Then the moment of truth, TWRP and wipe. I go to install in recovery and find the zip and bam, error number 1!!! Well it turns out I had Safari on expand after download and did not have the .zip. I get a little freaked out. I turned on the phone and it started working through the normal HTC One load (remember that), I finally am able to move the correct .zip to the phone. Then I install it, it works!! Yeah! The phone starts up but just sits and sits at the google screen. I then realize I started the phone after I did the wipe and did not re-wipe it. So, I re-wipe it, re-install and Sweet!!! It works like a charm!!! I had to get the new SuperSU for root, then I was able to install Xposed.
Used both Titanium and Helium to download what I needed, and its been rolling great all day and I'm loving it.
I do have 1 question, when the new version of the ROM comes out, I don't have to wipe the phone again do I? I would think I can do a dirty install.
So, hopefully if your on the fence, you will take the jump. Backup, backup and backup!
Have fun!

If it's a small update, or the same ROM, you tend not to have to wipe again (e.g. you can just flash over the top)
But if you're going to a different rom, or a major version change, then it's recommended to wipe typically.
Personally, I like to wipe between updates just as an opportunity to get rid of loads of stuff I've installed but not used

MrGuy said:
If it's a small update, or the same ROM, you tend not to have to wipe again (e.g. you can just flash over the top)
But if you're going to a different rom, or a major version change, then it's recommended to wipe typically.
Personally, I like to wipe between updates just as an opportunity to get rid of loads of stuff I've installed but not used
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Thanks for the response!
So how do you manage all your apps and data if you wipe between updates? When I wiped my data and all, I lost all my apps and data that goes with them. While I was able to being everything back, it took a few hours. Am I missing an easy way to restore? The update seems like a small update, its a 3.6.1 to 3.6.2 update.
Jack

jackpollard said:
Thanks for the response!
So how do you manage all your apps and data if you wipe between updates? When I wiped my data and all, I lost all my apps and data that goes with them. While I was able to being everything back, it took a few hours. Am I missing an easy way to restore? The update seems like a small update, its a 3.6.1 to 3.6.2 update.
Jack
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Welcome to the community!
Titanium Backup (TB) is invaluable at the point that you are at. It is well worth the price for the license on the Play Store. With TB you can backup apps, and the associated data. Just be warned though, if you ever decide to go to another ROM, you can not use the backups from the previous ROM.
Basically, going from X-ROM 1.2 to X-ROM 1.3 is fine, but if you try to restore backups from X-ROM to A-ROM, you will run into major headaches.
Hope this helps!

Hello Liskrig thanks for your hello. I read so many good things about titanium backup I bought it a while ago. It helped me when I rooted my phone. Thanks for the good advice
I went ahead and wiped the cache and then the devlic (sp) cache and then did the install. It worked with no issue and seems fine.
Jack
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Liskrig said:
Welcome to the community!
Titanium Backup (TB) is invaluable at the point that you are at. It is well worth the price for the license on the Play Store. With TB you can backup apps, and the associated data. Just be warned though, if you ever decide to go to another ROM, you can not use the backups from the previous ROM.
Basically, going from X-ROM 1.2 to X-ROM 1.3 is fine, but if you try to restore backups from X-ROM to A-ROM, you will run into major headaches.
Hope this helps!
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Now I finally find this invaluable info after all the flashing I have tried and it finally makes since. I have recently tried a few ARHD Roms and they come out so fast, I was never sure if I need to fullwipe, backup and restore or what. It's nice not to have to re-download everything.
Thanks for the heads up.

Welcome to the addiction! You'll find yourself scouring the XDA forums for rom updates and kernels in a very obsessive manner soon enough!
I do dirty flashes all the time if the changes are minor like 4.1.1 to 4.1.2...but from 4.1 to 4.3 i did a clean install

Too late...the bug has hit me back when I got the first Samsung vibrant. Now I'm looking for a killer Rom to beat the ARHD...it's stable but not the fastest. And I love the stock items...blink feed and sense makes me happy.
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HomesliceOne said:
Welcome to the addiction! You'll find yourself scouring the XDA forums for rom updates and kernels in a very obsessive manner soon enough!
I do dirty flashes all the time if the changes are minor like 4.1.1 to 4.1.2...but from 4.1 to 4.3 i did a clean install
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Too late...the bug has hit me back when I got the first Samsung vibrant. Now I'm looking for a killer Rom to beat the ARHD...it's stable but not the fastest. And I love the stock items...blink feed and sense makes me happy.
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HomesliceOne said:
Welcome to the addiction! You'll find yourself scouring the XDA forums for rom updates and kernels in a very obsessive manner soon enough!
I do dirty flashes all the time if the changes are minor like 4.1.1 to 4.1.2...but from 4.1 to 4.3 i did a clean install
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Too late...the bug has hit me back when I got the first Samsung vibrant. Now I'm looking for a killer Rom to beat the ARHD...it's stable but not the fastest. And I love the stock items...blink feed and sense makes me happy.
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Liskrig said:
Welcome to the community!
Titanium Backup (TB) is invaluable at the point that you are at. It is well worth the price for the license on the Play Store. With TB you can backup apps, and the associated data. Just be warned though, if you ever decide to go to another ROM, you can not use the backups from the previous ROM.
Basically, going from X-ROM 1.2 to X-ROM 1.3 is fine, but if you try to restore backups from X-ROM to A-ROM, you will run into major headaches.
Hope this helps!
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With system apps that's a problem but user apps are safe to restore on other roms at least in my experience.

PaulG1488 said:
With system apps that's a problem but user apps are safe to restore on other roms at least in my experience.
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^^^ this
How would anybody feed their flashaholism without that capability?

can i ask , which guide you used please?

dahmmy said:
can i ask , which guide you used please?
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Hello dahmmy;
If your question is for me regarding what guide I used to unlock and root, just search qbking77 and root htc one. I did update SuperSU to the newest version but really followed that guide to the letter. I made one concession, I used a Win7 machine instead of my Mac.
I do have a question for you all flash masters, so do I need s-off in order to update my kernels when available? I kind of get lost understanding; when the official 4.3 HTC rom comes out and its incorporated into the ROM I have loaded, when that ROM is updated, will it also upgrade my radio and all? I still have the 1.44 HBOOT so understand I can s-off. Thanks for any feedback and I will keep reading.

jackpollard said:
Hello dahmmy;
If your question is for me regarding what guide I used to unlock and root, just search qbking77 and root htc one. I did update SuperSU to the newest version but really followed that guide to the letter. I made one concession, I used a Win7 machine instead of my Mac.
I do have a question for you all flash masters, so do I need s-off in order to update my kernels when available? I kind of get lost understanding; when the official 4.3 HTC rom comes out and its incorporated into the ROM I have loaded, when that ROM is updated, will it also upgrade my radio and all? I still have the 1.44 HBOOT so understand I can s-off. Thanks for any feedback and I will keep reading.
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Hi
You don't need to s-off to load a new kernel. If you update your device with an official RUU or a zip containing a Hboot, radio or framework then those partitions will be updated. You can only make that uograde if your CID is accepted by the update (or you ar supercid and s-off). If you on the other hand flash a custom ROM the above mentioned partitions are in I think all cases removed from the ZIP.
It's hard to advice you to s-off or not, but I did it while I hade the opportunity so I could supercid the device and reset the tampered flag.
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I advise to s-off now if you have a comfortable feel with adb and cmd prompt. Its pretty straightforward, and the chances of a fatal error is extremely thin. While others will say warranty doesn't really check for unlocked and tampered stays flags, I like to be able to make it look 100% stock in case I have to send it in.
Other pros are ability to upgrade and downgrade ruus, hboots and firmwares without a hitch. You'll pretty much always have root and some other customizations are possible through an s-off device.
But as always, if you don't feel comfortable with it, the HTC one can pretty much do any average modding without s-off so its not 100% necessary.
Anyone need help with anything I'm always down through pm and I've given my phone number on a couple occasions. Happy modding :thumbup:
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Great and appreciated feedback. I did try using revone to s-off, I was using the terminal on the phone method and consistently get error = 1. I'm running hboot 1.44, but have the SinLess ROM running, I think thats the issue, I researched and it looks like cause its the GE and not Sense. I'm not sure I want to drop back and reload the stock, then reload SinLess, its so sweet I have it perfectly setup for me.
You know I have to say thanks to everyone who has read and especially commented, being this is a more technical forum then most others, I read a lot of threads that are tough on noobs like me. I've been an IT developer for the last 35 years (yeach I feel old), I was an iPhone person for years and would always jb to get my phone useful to me. When I saw the One, I was sold and never looked back. I think I've read most of the posts about the One and rooting, etc. But, still have questions of course. So I thank you all again for your feedback and great advice. Starting to feel a bit more comfortable in here.
If I can help anyone else looking to root I would happy to, just PM me. I'm so not an expert, but sometimes you just need another set of eyes to see when you don't.
InflatedTitan said:
I advise to s-off now if you have a comfortable feel with adb and cmd prompt. Its pretty straightforward, and the chances of a fatal error is extremely thin. While others will say warranty doesn't really check for unlocked and tampered stays flags, I like to be able to make it look 100% stock in case I have to send it in.
Other pros are ability to upgrade and downgrade ruus, hboots and firmwares without a hitch. You'll pretty much always have root and some other customizations are possible through an s-off device.
But as always, if you don't feel comfortable with it, the HTC one can pretty much do any average modding without s-off so its not 100% necessary.
Anyone need help with anything I'm always down through pm and I've given my phone number on a couple occasions. Happy modding :thumbup:
Sent from my HTC One using Tapatalk 2
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sauprankul said:
^^^ this
How would anybody feed their flashaholism without that capability?
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I love Titanium backup. It's saved my butt more then a few times! Same with cerberus!

Hey all, thought I would provide an update about s-off and post ROM flash. I tried a few times with revone to get s-off but no dice. After doing my research it seems due to the rom I have it won't work. I have a GE based rom. So I would say if you go through the root process you might as well do the s-off process before you flash the ROM.
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pleted win
I too am coming from 6 years of iOS usage and was a die-hard Cydia users to add tweaks and themes.
But the android rooting scene is too Geeky for me. lots of places to go wrong. have been going through a ton of tutorials lately. But scared of rooting simply because i will lose my Warranty. HTC is not quite a reliable brand as i have come to know..especially with One and the famous camera tint issue. (i got a replacement for the same issue). So a bit scared.
So is there anyway we can root and keep it all stock. I mean even if unroot and lock the bootloader, it will show Relocked instead of Locked. Will the service centre people let it pass. I am dying to install ViperOne Rom for the amazing customisation it allows.

sahil sharma said:
I too am coming from 6 years of iOS usage and was a die-hard Cydia users to add tweaks and themes.
But the android rooting scene is too Geeky for me. lots of places to go wrong. have been going through a ton of tutorials lately. But scared of rooting simply because i will lose my Warranty. HTC is not quite a reliable brand as i have come to know..especially with One and the famous camera tint issue. (i got a replacement for the same issue). So a bit scared.
So is there anyway we can root and keep it all stock. I mean even if unroot and lock the bootloader, it will show Relocked instead of Locked. Will the service centre people let it pass. I am dying to install ViperOne Rom for the amazing customisation it allows.
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We share similar history, I always liked the openness of Android, but I never found a device that was as well built as an iPhone until the One. I was tempted with the nexus 4, but not sold.
I fortunately did not have any issues with my One, sorry you did
Not please remember I'm not an expert, but I understand you can go all the way back to stock, if you s-off.
Research revone. Or moonshine tools to s-off. As long as you do a nandroid backup you can always go back to how you were. Grab titanium backup and backup all your data and take your time. But you can root and leave it 100% stock and just take advantage of root only goodies.
I'm sold on Sinless GE 4.3 ROM, it's fantastic and the dev who maintains it is great. So go unlock and root it, backup backup and backup. Good luck and have fun
Jack
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fz1jmp said:
We share similar history, I always liked the openness of Android, but I never found a device that was as well built as an iPhone until the One. I was tempted with the nexus 4, but not sold.
I fortunately did not have any issues with my One, sorry you did
Not please remember I'm not an expert, but I understand you can go all the way back to stock, if you s-off.
Research revone. Or moonshine tools to s-off. As long as you do a nandroid backup you can always go back to how you were. Grab titanium backup and backup all your data and take your time. But you can root and leave it 100% stock and just take advantage of root only goodies.
I'm sold on Sinless GE 4.3 ROM, it's fantastic and the dev who maintains it is great. So go unlock and root it, backup backup and backup. Good luck and have fun
Jack
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Hey jack more than build quality i liked the way OS is optimised for the hardware. Anyway leaving iOS out of the moment.
But i dont think you can get the Bootloader to have "locked" written again. It will still come as "Re-locked" which is a giveaway i believe. Anyway i have my exams and i will be caught up with them till November. So after that maybe i will join the Flashing-wagon.