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From time to time I read other tablet forums. All I can say is omg people are funny, why buy a product with light bleeds, creaking, bad speakers, random reboots. My xoom has none of those issues, and the part that really gets me is these people just chalk it up to that's just how it is. If I pay 400 or 500 or 600 I want it to work as advertised. I have a brand new jeep I be damn if I have problems with it and just say well that just part of owning a jeep. As long as consumers let the business get away with half ass products then it will continue. Maybe it's just me but I don't feel like light bleeds, random problems are normal at least not at these prices. Sorry just venting.
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I kinda agree with you. Pricing isn't everything - build quality is often overlooked by people. When I hold my Xoom in my hands, I feel like I'm holding a solid, serious product. Cheap plastic might be lighter, but it's more fragile, and feels cheaper too.
In this world, I always say you get what you pay for. There's a reason why you can buy a 300$ CheapBrand laptop, or a similarly-specced 400$ SeriousBrand laptop - one of them is much more likely to die on you before the other one.
The Xoom is by all mean not perfect, but I don't see any of the currently available alternatives as being perfect either - they all have their flaws. The Honeycomb tablet market is a brand new one, I'd expect things to get more interesting with second generation products.
Agreed, it's just as I read the xoom forum its mostly people have done something to there xoom not they opened there box and problems were there from the starting point. Xooms not perfect but I have confidence that my xoom will turn on, and will not have bleeds, nor creaking / separation issues.
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Agreed, it's just as I read the xoom forum its mostly people have done something to there xoom not they opened there box and problems were there from the starting point. Xooms not perfect but I have confidence that my xoom will turn on, and will not have bleeds, nor creaking / separation issues.
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Now that I think about it, the only problem I read about with an out-of-the-box Xoom was some dust under the screen. And that was just ONE person. From what I've read, iPad 2 issues were practically an epidemic.
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From time to time I read other tablet forums. All I can say is omg people are funny, why buy a product with light bleeds, creaking, bad speakers, random reboots. My xoom has none of those issues, and the part that really gets me is these people just chalk it up to that's just how it is. If I pay 400 or 500 or 600 I want it to work as advertised. I have a brand new jeep I be damn if I have problems with it and just say well that just part of owning a jeep. As long as consumers let the business get away with half ass products then it will continue. Maybe it's just me but I don't feel like light bleeds, random problems are normal at least not at these prices. Sorry just venting.
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honestly im very happy with my xoom. i rarely ever get any lag and i have had one or two browser crashes, nothing else. I'm an advanced user, been rooting my android phones for years now, and i still dont feel the need to root my xoom yet.... Build quality is great, software is fine too.
Sure, a sd card would be nice, but right now i dont even use a quarter of my onboard storage. 4g would be nice, but in my case i mostly use my xoom on the subway, where 4g goes in and out. its much better for me to have a solid 3g conneciton then switching back and forth between 3g and 4g (like my darn thunderbolt) and having no connection for a minute between each tower
anyway, im a happy xoom owner
I'm happy with my xoom.
I'm a bit happier with my iPad2.
Xoom just feels bulky, heavy, and laggy compared to iPad2.
I bought my Xoom a few weeks before the company I work for decided to give everyone an iPad2. I usually use the iPad now as it is overall just slicker, easier to carry around, and has more polished Apps. I do use the Xoom a lot for music streaming, love google music. And occasionally I'll browse on it because dolphin browser handles flash where iPads fail.
If I were spending money on something, it'd be a tough call. I love android, love my HTC Incredible phone, but the build quality and feel of the iPad is superior. SmartCovers are awesome, it feels clunky to have to find the on-off button on the back of the xoom, etc. I think Android is superior to iOS for sure, but right now we're going through the growing pains of a new OS and a new platform... Can't wait for someone to design hardware with usability on par with the iPad.
Ipad2 is good. But Xoom is better and more functional
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I'm happy with my xoom.
I'm a bit happier with my iPad2.
Xoom just feels bulky, heavy, and laggy compared to iPad2.
I bought my Xoom a few weeks before the company I work for decided to give everyone an iPad2. I usually use the iPad now as it is overall just slicker, easier to carry around, and has more polished Apps. I do use the Xoom a lot for music streaming, love google music. And occasionally I'll browse on it because dolphin browser handles flash where iPads fail.
If I were spending money on something, it'd be a tough call. I love android, love my HTC Incredible phone, but the build quality and feel of the iPad is superior. SmartCovers are awesome, it feels clunky to have to find the on-off button on the back of the xoom, etc. I think Android is superior to iOS for sure, but right now we're going through the growing pains of a new OS and a new platform... Can't wait for someone to design hardware with usability on par with the iPad.
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My kids love ipad2 that I bought for my wife. However, when I bought them a xoom, they never use ipad2 again.
I'm liking the xoom too.
I wish it had better codec support but I thought about it rationally. I'm not going to have to much 720p stuff with my 1.5mb down dsl connection.
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I love my Xoom too. Carry it around all day and keep it by my side while watching TV at night.
I think 97% of the people who have them love them.
Motorola -- not so much.
Mostly because Motorola not only fails to communicate -- they REFUSE to, it seems.
I suspect their lawyers don't want them to talk to customers about non-working parts such as the SD card and 4G because that would provide evidence in any legal proceedings that eventually come about.
And then when owners see the Xoom ( Wi-Fi ) being sold at a 17% discount on Ebay coupled with the lack of communication it makes for unhappy owners.
Does not help Motorolas reputation or to sell more units.
i love my xoom. I gave my Icrap pad to my aunt. I was waiting for a good android tablet and look what I got. The best tablet on the market. Yes it root and clock at 1.4ghz. But look what I can do compare to the icrap apple. Add one new feature every year. Lol its funny to me. I feel my xoom will be around for some years. OK 2-3 years tops but that's how the tech world is. I see alot of new stuff coming soon for the xoom.
I love my xoom and its various customizations. 3 of my friends have ipad 2 and I think they were just going nice and easy because they're not tech savvy enough. Still, how can anyone say the ipad 2 build quality is superior to the xooms? It is not even comparable, I mean what does the light weight have any real meanings beside making the device all plastic? I can glance at the black ipad for a second, but holy ****, the white one looks exactly like an iclone or Iclown from China. Don't even bring facetime and the cameras in the competition. They're useless. And prices of the ipads are wayyyyy over of what they should have been. Anyways, I'm a happy xoomer !!!!
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I'm liking the xoom too.
I wish it had better codec support but I thought about it rationally. I'm not going to have to much 720p stuff with my 1.5mb down dsl connection.
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Easily resolved by using Moboplayer or Rockplayer.
OS-level codec support should never be an issue IMHO. I don't see anyone complain that Windows has no built-in support for Matroska, for example
If you ever think your xoom isn't up to par go check out the transformer forum nothing but complaints and people on there 2nd or 3rd replacement due to various problems, and I keep reading its a good buy for the price, not when it comes to my time and stress level. Oh here's the funny part ausu wants you to pay for return shipping if you need a replacement or repair. Really?
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I love my xoom also. I don't care about the sd slot working because honestly 32gbs is more then enough and they don't even advertise about that. The only thing I am missing is my 4G. Even if samsung comes out with their tab who the hell wants to use touch wiz or whatever the hell it is as well as who wants to wait that long for updates? Lets go moto
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I really, really love my Xoom. I'm one of those people who carry it around constantly. Even when I could use my PC I'm using the Xoom to check my emails, FB and of course, xda. I'm using it on the road for work instead of lugging around a notebook. It's everything I need in a tablet computer, and more.
I started out in November with a Pandigital Novel (eclair) that I rooted and modded to the point where I got bored and gave it to my Mom. In February I sprung for the 1st Tegra 2 tab available at that time, the little orphan eLocity A7-froyo 2.2, a sweet and powerful little tab, but quirky build and short battery life. Still, I rooted and modded and finally gave it to my daughter when I got my Xoom in April. I figure I've been averaging 3 months on my android tablet progression, doubling my expenditure with each purchase, but the Xoom is different. This one's a keeper!
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Easily resolved by using Moboplayer or Rockplayer.
OS-level codec support should never be an issue IMHO. I don't see anyone complain that Windows has no built-in support for Matroska, for example
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The xoom can't play any 720p file that isn't baseline. Most scene/anime stuff is 720p High Profile which will not play on the xoom.
I cant drop my anime onto it without issues
The 720p stuff I occasionally download wont work without recoding.
Unless you have some sort of solution that none of us Xoom/Transfomer/Acer Iconia users dont know lol?
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I have to agree as I love my xoom also. A quick visit here and my UK xoom is now running 3.1 with full 3g working. SD card slot working a treat and am able to mount and unmount my external hard drive. Not to mention it purrrring along at 1.5ghz .
As for build quality I have no idea why some people are moaning. Its by far the best made and solid feeling tablet out there. I say if people don't like them then sell it and move on.
I love my Xoom. I haven't used any other tablets, so I can't compare. I've never had any problems with the Xoom. And with the 3.1 update, things are even better. I think the browsing experience is excellent especially with Dolphin Browser. Love being able to see flash videos right in the page.
Hoping for more apps to come out as Honeycomb gets more popular. That would be my only gripe, the lack of apps for my tablet.
I had the huawei s7 and the galaxy tab before getting the xoom. i wonder how the devs at google i/o are liking their 10.2 tabs? I hope they stick to using the xoom for developing so we get the latest api's. The xoom2 will probably be out around October with kal-el and who knows what else. tech is moving so fast, I don't expect any device to be current for more than 3 months. I've had my xoom 2 months so... Of all the new tabs coming out I don't see any that will take me away from xoom although i'm interested to see how the HP touchpad does as WebOS was the first smartphone os i used.
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The xoom can't play any 720p file that isn't baseline. Most scene/anime stuff is 720p High Profile which will not play on the xoom.
I cant drop my anime onto it without issues
The 720p stuff I occasionally download wont work without recoding.
Unless you have some sort of solution that none of us Xoom/Transfomer/Acer Iconia users dont know lol?
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Did you try Moboplayer? I don't know if it can do it, but it cam play a lot of stuff that the built-in player (and many other third party players too) can't play smoothly. Make sure to install the optimized codec pack on top of it, see what happens. For the Xoom, you want the ARM V7_VFPV3 codec pack.
I still cannot understand why the A500 is not in the top 5 tablets, rarely in the top 10. I love my a500 and I think it out beats any other tab. It has all the ports you need, its fast, just as fast as an overclocked Xoom or G-tab, and it cant be overclocked yet!!!!!! Wait till the new kernal comes out! But so far the Xoom, Eee Pad, Playbook and Galaxy 10.1 are always beating it. The A500 has all the features of all these tablets combined. The Xoom sd doesnt work and no usb port, same with the Eee pad, Galaxy has not ports at all (damn you apple for influencing such a stupid idea)! and the playbook is half the size and lacks everything, more like a big phone. It might be heavier (by an arm tearing, wrist breaking, cardio session .25lb) than all these tabs but who cares if you get all the ports, cameras gps, gyroscope, accelerometer and compass.
Why is the Acer not acknowledged for what it has?! I think it is the king right now.
What do you guys think?
I think all the tabs are good to some extent, but it seems the A500 always takes a hit on wieght and the screen. I personally love mine. I have no issues with the videos I have watched and as for speed, I think it is on par to the rest. The reviews that lump the PlayBook and iPad2 in with the android pads are not fair. They are not the same class of tab. Completely different OS. If I was a business man using a Blackberry phone, I would have chose the PlayBook. They play well together because the PlayBook was designed that way. If I want to play a few games, surf the WEB, read a book, or friend then I would choose an iPad or the Galaxey 10.1.
That is not what I wanted. I wanted the flexability to expand and use periferials without a special cable, adapter or such, so I chose the Acer A500 and am quite pleased with it. I with all the useres would quite bashing the other tabs. Each like what they like for what ever reason they like it. No different here. Next year the next great tab will come out. For now, for me, it is the A500. I do not need to defend my decision. It is mine.
Happy tabbing.
I do love mine too, and sincerely, I don´t care to top lists or trendings.
I used to have an iPhone 4, never got used to it. I never got the concept of missing a home screen, the need of iTunes and a lot of other details.
Anyway, if you are happy with your tablet, ignore those lists. It´s your opinion that matters to yourself, period.
I don't know, I just love this fat bus****!
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I ve had the xoom for 10 days i got the sd to work and upgraded to 3.1
the build is quite nice but for the price and the lack of usb i returned it for an a500 and am loving it... Go acer
I for one don't know or care why the Acer is rated so low. I did quite a bit of reading and research before I got mine and compared to the other tablets I was looking at, it had the most features and a really good screen. With the possible exception of the Toshiba tablet which isn't even out yet the Acer has the most bang for my hard earned buck. My one complaint and its a small one is the lack of accessories. I do like me some accessories.
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I for one don't know or care why the Acer is rated so low. I did quite a bit of reading and research before I got mine and compared to the other tablets I was looking at, it had the most features and a really good screen. With the possible exception of the Toshiba tablet which isn't even out yet the Acer has the most bang for my hard earned buck. My one complaint and its a small one is the lack of accessories. I do like me some accessories.
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What accessories do you want? You have a case, docking station, screen protector, HDI cable and a pethra of USB items that you can attach. Way more than most of the other tabs on the market. The after market seems to be getting on the band wagon too. Won't be long until you will find anything you are looking for.
maybe some hardcase angrybird, or diamond cover stuff...
hahaha
Actually I will do prefer have more "case, cover" choices, not just a sad black leather things....
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I have to say
WEIGHT should not be taken as a bad point... for me it's a better point I do love feel what I have in the hand.
i think its just because of the brand...
come on, acer vs apple vs samsung vs motorola
this is all about brand, you know 80% of people in this world are branded mind...
There was an article on Cnet yesterday that says Acer is vieing for the number two spot in the tablet market right now.
http://m.cnet.com/Article.rbml?nid=20073055&cid=null&bcid=&bid=-64
Search for top android tablets on cnet.......a500 is at 5th position....and in the specs.....the ram is given as ddr3...!
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Isn't the Xoom barely thinner and the same weight anyway?
Either way i'm happy with my device, and that's really all that matters. Even though some of the others may look nicer and be thinner/lighter, it's not worth the price premium imo.
Xoom has a very poor build, like anything moto.
Either way guys ,perhaps you haven't noticed the price on the Iconia.
Corners have been cut where they've not been strictly essential, eg. no divx support (codec) and especially no ads. This thing hs been available right from the start in my country (some hell hole on the border of the EU) where things always come in last.
If there were no ads, I imagine tech sites like engadget haven't been paid to make a proper review (no, they don't do them for passion for technology, only for cash or when a product reaches critical hype)
That being said, this is a product for the tech savvy who don't get a device just because of the hype. I like my device cheaper and less advertised, thank you.
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Xoom has a very poor build, like anything moto.
Either way guys ,perhaps you haven't noticed the price on the Iconia.
Corners have been cut where they've not been strictly essential, eg. no divx support (codec) and especially no ads. This thing hs been available right from the start in my country (some hell hole on the border of the EU) where things always come in last.
If there were no ads, I imagine tech sites like engadget haven't been paid to make a proper review (no, they don't do them for passion for technology, only for cash or when a product reaches critical hype)
That being said, this is a product for the tech savvy who don't get a device just because of the hype. I like my device cheaper and less advertised, thank you.
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the 2 are much cheaper and has more options for storage expansion and connectivity.
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Screen quality, weight, battery life.
Those were my points in favor of the Galaxy Tab. And since storage expansion wasn't even on my list, I chose the Galaxy Tab 10.1.
Just about the same reason. 16gb is way more than I need on a day to day basis, plus if I need to off load or swap a movie I can wifi FTP to my phone or use dropbox. I have no need to ever connect my tab via HDMI... if I needed this kind of feature I would have gone with a cheap laptop.
So better screen, better battery, better sound, lighter, looks alot nicer... I also really like touchwiz.
Just like everybody else who will post in here, thinness and weight. I use cloud storage for everything or use USB with my desktop. Not a single tablet on the market is a real laptop replacement so basically I just use the tablet for media consumption and some gaming. Basically though when I went to best buy the 10.1 just felt incredible in my hands. I drain the battery every two days going over my RSS feeds or viewing websites and the occasional Netflix video. So just as above, great battery.
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Form factor, the Tab is light & slim, the picture quality is marvelous & the build quality is superior
Pretty much what everybody in this thread already said.
Oleophobic coating, 8.9mm thick.
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Just like everybody else who will post in here, thinness and weight. I use cloud storage for everything or use USB with my desktop. Not a single tablet on the market is a real laptop replacement so basically I just use the tablet for media consumption and some gaming. Basically though when I went to best buy the 10.1 just felt incredible in my hands. I drain the battery every two days going over my RSS feeds or viewing websites and the occasional Netflix video. So just as above, great battery.
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^^^^^^
This.
I stream most of my media to the device so connectivity is less important to me. I also think using any portable device for streaming to a TV or home theatre isn't optimum with this generation of h/w so the lack of onboard HDMI isn't important. I got a 32GB version because I travel internationally a lot and download content for long plane flights. Samsung also does the best job with drivers for handling audio and video codecs. I have 2K songs stored locally on the device with a Rhapsody subscription which play via the stock music player or Bluetooth. It's because of Samsung's DRM support. I tried a HTC Jetstream for a week but it weighed a ton in comparison which makes a huge difference on the road and it sucked at video and audio support. The G-Tab also has a bunch of great accessories. I got it a Zenus Carbon Fiber leather case and people always comment on it. Besides, if you don't get a G-Tab people won't ask you "how do you like your iPad?"
build and screen quality were my reasons. I went through 3 tfs and 4 xooms before I settled with the gt10.1.
I use my 10.1 primarily as a textbook (science and engineering mainly) replacement, so screen is absolute first priority.
Thinner, lighter, faster, better. I have no need for ports as you can transfer files over bluetooth or a network pretty easily and quickly. When I was in Best Buy the other day I was just looking at the other tablets and I have no regrets. They are so bulky.
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Too much bezel on other tablets
Lack of 3g a factor too.
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Form factor and screen.
I have one that hasn't been mentioned...
I bought my tab two months ago at Best Buy. I have a Samsung Captivate, and the GPS has been, let's say, underwhelming. So I flipped on the GPS on the Toshiba Thrive. It was "searching for satellites" for a while, so I went over to the tab and did the same thing. Instantly locked in. I pulled up maps and looked at the satellite view, and it placed me inside the store. I went back to the Thrive, and it was still searching for satellites. Sold me right there.
I took the tab on a backpacking trip, and used the Maverick app to display USGS topos, and if we ever wanted to know where we were, I pulled out the tab, and got a lock within seconds. Plus watched some shows, read a book, did crosswords, etc. Great value for me.
Screen is way better than Asus Transformer and Acer Iconia. Weight. Didn't need any ports because I stream most all my content.. movies, music, etc from home network.
I can easily mount in my vehicle. Plus it must looks cooler than any of the other
tabs out. btw 8.9 was just released and now a 7 here soon. So portable.
Erusman
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Too much bezel on other tablets
Lack of 3g a factor too.
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too much? dont you mean too little... the Gtab10.1 has more than the xoom does...
my reasons were it was new...
amazing screen...
light weight
thin...
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too much? dont you mean too little... the Gtab10.1 has more than the xoom does...
my reasons were it was new...
amazing screen...
light weight
thin...
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The bezel on the Transformer, for instance, is enormous making it really long and difficult to hold.
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Form factor, the Tab is light & slim, the picture quality is marvelous & the build quality is superior
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What he says.
Pretty much everything has been said already, it's light, it's thin, looks good, great screen. Already had the SGS2 so would of known this would be decent as well.
I'm not bothered that it doesn't have no sd card and such 16GB is ample for me, google music takes care of that!
7.7 looks fantastic though but ill skip that and wait for next get tablets due soon.
Hi,
I am new to the world of tablet & I am going to buy my first tablet & got stuck with two choices - xoom & sony tablet S (ruled out tab 10.1 due to lack of expandable storage option). can you guys please suggest on this? (p.s. - android OS is not new to me)
Also, I would be grateful if you guys can inform me about the 3G frequency band being used in xoom. Also, please let me know what type of SIM being used in 3g xoom for ex - normal SIM card or U-SIM.
p.s. - didn't found any thread for this comparison
Both tablets aren't really very smooth.
Of the two, its hard to choose. The sony tablet looks very nice.
As the owner of the xooms, the display is dull and poorly calibrated, unbearably ugly heavy and fat. Shadowgun isn't completely smooth. Playable, but not smooth.
Live wallpapers does not work, UI still lag. Sony tablet also didn't get such rave reviews
You sure you need so much space? Please consider the samsung 10.1, due to the ****ty screen of the xoom I didn't even bother putting videos on the tablet.
32GB sounds enough I seldom use my sd card too.
Mine has a good screen, the weight is fine, live wallpapers work fine and ICS is on par with iOS.
The Xoom's panel is really bad.
I wouldn't think like that if I also didn't own a Galaxy S2. Comparing the 2 panels is like comparing a V12 Ferrari to a V8 Mustang on a racetrack. Obviously the Mustang is pretty and powerful, but once you have them side by side competing against each other, you come to think that the once mighty Mustang might be just a cheap POS when compared to the almighty Ferrari V12.
The other downside of the Xoom is the lack of 1080p output on the micro-HDMI port. I can connect if to my big LED TV, but all I get is 720p.
It has many obvious advantages over the Galaxy Tab 10.1, but if image output (either on its display or on TV) is important to you and a deciding factor, rule the Xoom out.
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Both tablets aren't really very smooth.
Of the two, its hard to choose. The sony tablet looks very nice.
As the owner of the xooms, the display is dull and poorly calibrated, unbearably ugly heavy and fat. Shadowgun isn't completely smooth. Playable, but not smooth.
Live wallpapers does not work, UI still lag. Sony tablet also didn't get such rave reviews
You sure you need so much space? Please consider the samsung 10.1, due to the ****ty screen of the xoom I didn't even bother putting videos on the tablet.
32GB sounds enough I seldom use my sd card too.
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I would return the Xoom if you are not happy with it. I love my Xoom and wasnt expecting the best of the best when I purchased it. The build quality of the Xoom is far superior over any other Android Tablet out there right now. Maybe the screen isnt the best or some other asepects but that doesnt bother my. It does what I want it to do. Enjoy. Thanks
hotdude2411 said:
Hi,
I am new to the world of tablet & I am going to buy my first tablet & got stuck with two choices - xoom & sony tablet S (ruled out tab 10.1 due to lack of expandable storage option). can you guys please suggest on this? (p.s. - android OS is not new to me)
Also, I would be grateful if you guys can inform me about the 3G frequency band being used in xoom. Also, please let me know what type of SIM being used in 3g xoom for ex - normal SIM card or U-SIM.
p.s. - didn't found any thread for this comparison
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For us to better help you, I would suggest listing things that are important to you.
Then instead of people complaining about things only they care about, you can actually get some usable opinions.
Also,the Xoom uses a standard SIM. Not sure about the bands it uses.
ccaian1 said:
Both tablets aren't really very smooth.
Of the two, its hard to choose. The sony tablet looks very nice.
As the owner of the xooms, the display is dull and poorly calibrated, unbearably ugly heavy and fat. Shadowgun isn't completely smooth. Playable, but not smooth.
Live wallpapers does not work, UI still lag. Sony tablet also didn't get such rave reviews
You sure you need so much space? Please consider the samsung 10.1, due to the ****ty screen of the xoom I didn't even bother putting videos on the tablet.
32GB sounds enough I seldom use my sd card too.
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I completely disagree with you, regarding the performance of the Xoom.
My experience is the opposite. On EOS ICS, especially, my Xoom is super smooth, fast and responsive. I have a good screen. I can do everything I want with my Xoom. I don't have all the troubles reported by owners of other tablets, including the Transformer Prime. I don't know the Sony tab but, the Xoom is a terrific device...even better than when it was first released, because of the software development.
Also have to disagree with ccain1,
the xoom is a nice product, performance wise even on stock ICS the performance is great, no lag, very smooth. apps are snappy.
as for the screen, majority say its dull, but thats because its not as contrasty as the samoleds that people regard as the holy grail of screens, the screen does the job, looks fine with movies, youtube and games. its just a heavy duty LCD screen.
they arent many niggling issues that other tabs suffer from that many complain about. (transformers dock/battery issues, 10.1s screen "oil mark" defects/all other tabs lack of updates)
Plus the Xoom, is considered a nexus device, which is why its the only tab released last year that officially running ICS. and likely will continues to receive updates.
You also gotta realize that is this complaint/fix heavy forum. Most things you read hear unfortunately will be negative, people don't come to brag about how things are great too much, only to complain and look for fixes.
bundled with a 32gb mSD you max out at like ~60GB of usable space.
easy to unlock/root
it is kinda heavy tho buts a 1st Generation tab, @ 1.7lbs, same weight as the first gen ipad
Only have the wifi version of the Xoom so can't tell you anything about its 3g. Have never tried the Sony model so can't give you an opinion on it. However, what I can tell you is that the Xoom has taken me completely by surprise. I was lucky enough to pick up a cheap xoom at the airport and within one day I had rooted it and put a custom rom on it. It was really easy even for a non-techie like me. And when the ICS custom roms started appearing it was not a problem putting that on it. It's a whole new experience from Honeycomb.
All in all I can only recommend the Xoom. Unless you can get the Sony model a whole lot cheaper I can't see the reason for you not getting a Xoom
Don't get the Sony. Made of plastic, even the screen is plastic, not Gorilla Glass like the Xoom. There's no development on the Sony and is not very popular. ICS on the Xoom is very very good.
I was also considering between these two and I finally chose xoom. It is cheaper and the screen is gorilla glass.
I don't what you are looking for in the Xoom so like others I will give you my opinion based on my needs. I am middle aged business man not interested in rooting and playing games on the Xoom. I use it for travel and work when I don't need my laptop. I have the 4G version so still on Honeycomb. All the griping about lag, delays and fingerprints is just that gripes. If someone thinks a tablet should be the end all to all of the computer needs well they are not very realistic. Got a problem with fingerprints then get a screen protector or a stylus pen. Need to access your laptop from afar, download an app and there you go. Wanna watch a movie on the plane no problem works great. Do you want to read in bed it works great. Good battery life and one last thing I would rather have a little bit heavier device that is built better then save a few grams for a plastic device.
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I don't what you are looking for in the Xoom so like others I will give you my opinion based on my needs. I am middle aged business man not interested in rooting and playing games on the Xoom. I use it for travel and work when I don't need my laptop. I have the 4G version so still on Honeycomb. All the griping about lag, delays and fingerprints is just that gripes. If someone thinks a tablet should be the end all to all of the computer needs well they are not very realistic. Got a problem with fingerprints then get a screen protector or a stylus pen. Need to access your laptop from afar, download an app and there you go. Wanna watch a movie on the plane no problem works great. Do you want to read in bed it works great. Good battery life and one last thing I would rather have a little bit heavier device that is built better then save a few grams for a plastic device.
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Agreed!!
Minus that im a younger geeky dude that like to expirement with rooting and getting my hands dirty unlocking the true potential out of our devices, The only thing I hate about the Xoom is motorolas lack of not being able to give there customers the support we deserve and for releasing other newer products before perfecting the ones that have been released!!!
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I don't what you are looking for in the Xoom so like others I will give you my opinion based on my needs. I am middle aged business man not interested in rooting and playing games on the Xoom. I use it for travel and work when I don't need my laptop. I have the 4G version so still on Honeycomb. All the griping about lag, delays and fingerprints is just that gripes. If someone thinks a tablet should be the end all to all of the computer needs well they are not very realistic. Got a problem with fingerprints then get a screen protector or a stylus pen. Need to access your laptop from afar, download an app and there you go. Wanna watch a movie on the plane no problem works great. Do you want to read in bed it works great. Good battery life and one last thing I would rather have a little bit heavier device that is built better then save a few grams for a plastic device.
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I agree.... I purchased my Xoom on day one and haven't looked back. With the HC upgrades and now ICS it's like I have a brand new top of the line device.
Even with all the new tablets being released I have yet to see one that is as well made as the Xoom.
Just curious, and figured since we've obviously been deemed a niche community by Samsu--err, I mean -- the Market, we might as well get to know each other.
I had a few questions that might shed some light on topics that samsung has been less than forth-coming on. For example, sales; how many of theses are there out there? first amoled tablet; was super amoled+ display the primary driver for your purchase?
Anyway, two questions to start:
What did you get your tablet for?
What are the sales like in your region?
I'll answer first:
1). I'm an artist, and have done digital work using Adobe Photoshop, Illustrator and Corel Painter with a wacom stylus for about a decade. I got real excited getting my first laptop because I thought it would liberate me from working inside all the time...BOY was a wrong. There was no way I could work out in daylight with any real access to a color palette. The screen was just too dim. I've waited on buying a tablet for the past three years just because I knew there would be one closer to perfect available if I just held out...--and here I am, happy as a lark with my gTab7.7 and I had no idea it would open up huge metaphysical problems in contemporary color theory!!! --feel free to ask me more about that one, I'm in WAY over my head. I'm thinking Jeans Jacque Rousseau, Benedict Spinoza, Leonardo DanVinci, David Hume and Aristotle.
Oh, and so I use this thing as a sketchpad. I'll post some for interested parties, but the forum only allows jpgs (ACK!!), so I'll up a zip file of pngs of the work I've done on this device with Autodesk Sketchbook Pro, Infinite Painter, and Adobe Photoshop Touch.
I also use this as my phone, e-reader, music device and for watching movies (duh!). Oh, and SNESOID ROCKS!!! the color from those old 16-bit games..;;
2). I've seen noone else with the gTab7.7, in the Dallas/Ft Worth area in Texas, though when I briefly had the LTE version I had to call three different stores before I found one that had them in stock. I returned it because here (in the US), the device is USD$750 off contract, and $550 with a 2yr service agreement. It was just too much, but I fell in love with it! In May, I bought a "used--in mint condition", the importer said it was a demo model, but when I got it, it had SU still installed, but didn't have root. OBVIOUSLY not a demo model.--- thanks to this forum, I returned it to stock and its running beautifully.
Anyway, I see about 100 people a day through work or more, and they all have ipads, or transformers. Not a single other person with this device.
What are sales like in the rest of the world? Is there any country where this device is more popular?
The indefinite microcosm becomes the indefinite macrocosm in a definite manner and by definite means...and vice versa.
Uses:
Phone, gps, browser, tv ( now that the Euro Championships are on i watch them via Watch ESPN app ), larger viewfinder for my Nikon DSLR with Mophoto (beats the small lcd screen on the back of the camera ) and e-reader.
I am in NJ and i dont know of anyone that has this tab (internanional 3g+wifi).
Would love to see your work,i am not a heavy photographer but i am thinking of getting Photoshop Touch but at the same what is holding me back is the lack of a usefull stylus (ala s-pen from the G Note). Amtel has a Maxstylus Mxst100 that is supposed to work with our tab, but no release date or price.
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I keep tearing rubber styli. I've gone through 2, and spent maybe 100-200 hours drawing and sketching so far? I'm switching to the iFaraday for now. Its a capacitive stylus made out of fabric, so its washable, and it shouldn't drag across a clean surface. The rubber stylus requires a layer of fingerprints to NOT drag and stutter. VERY annoying when you're trying to cross-hatch with a 3px brush and you have to account for wobble and imprecision already... It was the screen real estate i preferred ultimately over the gNote, but boy was it a tough decision. I SO wanted the wacom digitizer to be in the gTab7.7... Do i wish I'd gotten the gNote? Sometimes. But for now, the larger viewing and operating surface was the deciding factor for me. But all three apps, Sketchbook Pro, Infinite Painter, and Photoshop Touch SUPPORT pressure sensitivity...
Here is a zip with some of what i've been doing:
https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B5eM4rH3azruckFYWk93VUFnOTA
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got the tablet for watching tv shows/movies on the 40min commute to work, also reading comics/manga and ebooks. games are pretty good too but i already have 3ds and vita.
i live in london and i have seen no one else with it or no one i have shown the tablet to has even heard of it. Its seriously a ipad-fest here, and i want to strangle those who say "oh...so its like a small ipad!"
also its really expensive at the local shops and online in the uk, so i got mine for LOADS cheaper from a hong kong seller on ebay.
Much like adinis78 I use this as a large Screen for my Photography. I also use this as my main phone now (With a Bluetooth) and for playing games or web use.
This tablet is also a great E-book reader.
I live in the San Antonio, TX area and I only know one other person with this tablet. They have the wifi model and I am using the wifi/3g Import.
We have a lot of Ipad users here, but I have seen some Acer and Asus android users as well.
On a side note, I am trying to build a rom for this device in Linux. I am no Dev but I will give it my best shot and see if I can make something useful
FateZero said:
Much like adinis78 I use this as a large Screen for my Photography. I also use this as my main phone now (With a Bluetooth) and for playing games or web use.
This tablet is also a great E-book reader.
I live in the San Antonio, TX area and I only know one other person with this tablet. They have the wifi model and I am using the wifi/3g Import.
We have a lot of Ipad users here, but I have seen some Acer and Asus android users as well.
On a side note, I am trying to build a rom for this device in Linux. I am no Dev but I will give it my best shot and see if I can make something useful
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Okay so, so far Texas has the highest device penetration density on the planet.... and HK wholesalers bought up a bunch from the manufacturer and is now undercutting local markets to have them imported directly from Hong Kong...
Now I am tempted to buy a batch if 10 and see what's up on ebay.....
Now a question for you photographers: HDRi viewing is INCREDIBLE due to sAMOLED contrast ratio and expanded 30% larger color gamut. Is an rgb value of 255/255/255 my whitepoint at 250 nits and screen mode set on "dynamic" and at 100% brightness? Does anyone have a calubration device or run across a sAMOLED+ icc profile?
as OP I wanna stay as OT as possible, but at the same time, I'm now getting what I was hoping for: professional people who bought these devices to check their productivity potential.
I use this beauty as a phone through BT, using it intensively for mails with its form factor, is an ideal device for me as a Sales Manager.
I live in Cairo, Egypt and this device is very popular here & getting an increasingly market share, have it for around 4 months now and have seen around 10-12 users having this tab, it is sold for around 550$ for the GT 6800 .
I use it to study, and do tests with vce mobile.
Also browse web! Using it as my primary phone till i get an infuse again!
1, Comic book reader,
2, Web, online streams,
3, Apps & games
Just love how the colours pop out when reading comics,
Only downside I get is 2 heads on my shoulders when I'm reading a comic on the tube...
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1, Comic book reader,
2, Web, online streams,
3, Apps & games
Just love how the colours pop out when reading comics,
Only downside I get is 2 heads on my shoulders when I'm reading a comic on the tube...
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Check ot some of the stuff i'm working on above--just a link to png files instead of posting a jpg inline on here, they always look horrible.. they're supposed to be viewed on our screens, full brightness in dynamic color mode.
and do you know anybody else in your area who owns one?
In order of priority:
1. Surfing the web and yotubing
2. Watching TV (I use pay-tv on it)
3. Using photoshop touch and viewing/showing off pictures
4. Games and fun apps
I live in vienna and never saw another 7.7 on the streets. Although it's easily available here and not too expensive.
Making and editing pr0n.
Its my main mobile media device.
Use it in the car to play/stream tunes, Navigation and Maps
Use it to listen to listen to music at work, web browse on my lunch.
I would consider it for phone use as well if it was possible and i woulda dumped my galaxy nexus eventually but damn Verizon nerfed phone capabilities
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Making and editing pr0n.
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lol that post made my day :laugh:
Gilbot said:
Its my main mobile media device.
Use it in the car to play/stream tunes, Navigation and Maps
Use it to listen to listen to music at work, web browse on my lunch.
I would consider it for phone use as well if it was possible and i woulda dumped my galaxy nexus eventually but damn Verizon nerfed phone capabilities
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Should have gotten the international version
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Should have gotten the international version
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No way!
Verizon LTE blows At&t and T-mo speeds away and I have unlimited LTE through vzw. Not worth it. I have the ability to swap my sim from my Galaxy Nexus to the Tab if i really wanted to though I typically just tether the Tab via my Nexus.
Movies, video clips, mp3, call, sms, mms, video call, XDA-ing, share my works to my clients, web browsing, download ROM and Kernel customization, chat and facebook.
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Gilbot said:
No way!
Verizon LTE blows At&t and T-mo speeds away and I have unlimited LTE through vzw. Not worth it. I have the ability to swap my sim from my Galaxy Nexus to the Tab if i really wanted to though I typically just tether the Tab via my Nexus.
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Was saying because uou said you would consider the tab as your phone
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For work I do fengshui with it. Of course I can't use its compass for fengshui calibration, but it can assist me in calculating fengshui and life spreads for fengshui design and fortune-telling. Also it helps keeping fengshui profiles and records for my easy reference.
It is lighter and more useful than a notebook for my work.
I'm boring and i just use it for watching tv shows/movies and reading books/manga. I guess i read a magazine on it from time to time. Engadget distro works well on it.