No more HTC devices on sprint this year - EVO Shift 4G General

I talked to an HTC representative the other day and was told that there will be no more HTC devices on spirit for the rest of the year. Just some info for you all
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That's unfortunate. Although unless they have plans to release another QWERTY slider, I'm not overly concerned with their phone lineup. Unless it leads to something useful being ported.

im not surprised

HTC phones are going the way of blackberries

good riddance

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HTC to USA : No 3G Touch HD for you

Not fair!
"HTC made a confirmation on their Twitter page that there are no plans to bring a 3G Touch HD to the US. "
http://msmobiles.com/news.php/7689.html
Those filthy mothers! I goddamn It!!! its because they hate us! And now I hate them... But i will still buy there products. Ok so i'm hypocrite but Its the lesser of the 2 evils (apple) The HD would cripple there competition.
{Bitter as ****!}
It'll happen eventually, I'm calling BS on them turning down a giant US market with an iPhone killer in their hands.
http://twitter.com/htc
Is where they say that there is no plans to release the HD on US soil.
And the final nail in the coffin: http://twitter.com/htc/statuses/948774282
Trancecoder said:
And the final nail in the coffin: http://twitter.com/htc/statuses/948774282
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Wow... I'm shocked. This phone that half the forum was ready to jump on, the iPhone killer, best PPC phone made to date as some have called it... And they don't bring it to the US. I'm still skeptical, I think they may change their minds.
Well, they did get FCC approval for the EU version that doesn't support US 3G frequencies, so who knows...
does someone wanna let me live in europe with them?
ill ask my aunt.
I don't use usa 3G anyhow, since t-mobile only recently got it going with the Android. So, I'll happily use EDGE with this masterpiece when I get the pre-ordered unlocked european version!
Someday there will be a usa 3G version, but most likely for the at&t bandwidth....
that's wack i think they are missing out on a very big market i don't see why it can't be relased in the States this is probably the best competitor to the Iphone
Maybe they realized they need to stop being retards with pressure sensitive screens and they'll bring one to us in the US with a capacitive screen.
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Maybe they realized they need to stop being retards with pressure sensitive screens and they'll bring one to us in the US with a capacitive screen.
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Well, we're getting there with the Diamond and Raphael having capacitive button areas. Now if they'd just do it for the entire screen, that would be something else. Not sure how WinMo 6 would handle it, though. Maybe we have to wait for 7 to see that functionality... I hope they mention something about it at the PDC. Can't wait to go there
This is terrible news I suppose HTC decided it wouldn't be worth producing a US version of the phone as sales wouldn't generate enough revenue. I guess they don't think they can compete with Apple's marketing power/magic/overhyped iPhone
I am very disappointed, I actually feel lost and confused. This was the phone I was going to ditch my iphone for. I could always get the Fuze now but was so disappointed with my Diamond I just don't see how the Fuze will live up to my expectations.
Maybe the X1 or Omnia will be my next phone.
From wmpoweruser.com, find below 3 speculations on why HTC may have decided to do this:
1) AT&T demanded that the HD stay out of USA, to prevent any competition with the iPhone 3G. In return they would carry the much delayed AT&T Fuze. This is supported by the absense of the HTC Touch Diamond on AT&T, indicating they do not welcome good competition to their favourite phone.
2) HTC did not want to draw attention from their new G1 android phone, and therefore decided not to release in USA.
3) HTC thinks the investment would be wasted, due to the local dominance of the iPhone in USA, unlike in Europe, where the seemed to have accelerated its release.
I'm going with reason #1. Apple and AT&T are the devil and the devil's spawn, respectively.
Looks like XDA-Developers is going to have to start calling on some HARDWARE EXPERTS!! Swap out the radios perhaps???
Very disappointing news, but hopefully this just means that we'll get something even better when the Touch HD II is born!
stpete111 said:
1) AT&T demanded that the HD stay out of USA, to prevent any competition with the iPhone 3G. In return they would carry the much delayed AT&T Fuze. This is supported by the absense of the HTC Touch Diamond on AT&T, indicating they do not welcome good competition to their favourite phone.
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This is why I'll never be an iPhone user
g1 sales?
If they said the t-HD was coming in march they would kill half the g1 sales, I figure as soon as the hype for the g1 is over there will magically be an t-HD for USA. I am waiting for a t-HD pro w/ keyboard. I got the g1 to play with/take apart until then.
Looks like i made a good gamble... i gave up on the fuze and speculated the HD would be months out and got a US Diamond 2 weeks ago.
Looks like i will be using the diamond a lot longer than i thought. Love the phone.
1) I think AT&T is mostly responsible, since they would probably just delay the HD until mid way through next year. And who would want it then if HTC reveals a new and better device? Besides, AT&T probably doesn't want an iPhone-killer that is going to kill its iPhone.
2) Tmo and Google could also be responsible. Judging from how well G1 sales have been going, Tmo might want to get its hands on a second Android device to hit two price-points: one all-around "good" device with keyboard at $179 (the G1), and another high-design iPhone-killer at ~$299. So who knows, maybe HTC/Tmo/Google killed the HD in order to resurrect it as an Android device. After all, there has been no shortage of "Android on HD" comments everywhere, and Tmo actually keeps track of the blogosphere.
The latest on HTC's tweet:
http://twitter.com/htc/statuses/948811620

sprint needs new htc love

seems like all the other carriers are in the line up for uber htc phones, in fact i think sprint is the only one of the big 4 not getting nexus, i thought there was hope for this phone, but now i see pics with t-bung-ile on it already =(...
ah well, thanks to fresh my hero roxzors anyway.!
i http://www.slashgear.com/htc-bravo-tipped-for-march-2010-launch-by-3-sweden-1469899/
kraash said:
seems like all the other carriers are in the line up for uber htc phones, in fact i think sprint is the only one of the big 4 not getting nexus, i thought there was hope for this phone, but now i see pics with t-bung-ile on it already =(...
ah well, thanks to fresh my hero roxzors anyway.!
i http://www.slashgear.com/htc-bravo-tipped-for-march-2010-launch-by-3-sweden-1469899/
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i was disappointed at first to hear that verizon would be getting nexus one and not sprint. but with the fact that we'll get 2.1 soon makes it okay for me. plus i'm really just waiting for another great qwerty android device that isn't all blocky like the moto droid.
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in fact i think sprint is the only one of the big 4 not getting nexus
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AT&T isn't getting it...
Well, you can run the unlocked one on AT&T using an AT&T SIM, you just don't get 3G access cause the phone is tri-band not quad, and only meant for T-Mobile's 3G.
Got beat to the punch...
What keeps me waiting patiently is talks of qualcom bringing out dual-core 1.5ghz snapdragon cpu later this year, it'll make the nexus old news before you know it.
Dual core snapdragon would be insanity. Great stuff. I'll tell you something though. I am upset with the fact that Sprint isn't getting any of these cool phones either but they historically never have. I mean Palm is a little different because they have always loved Sprint but historically Sprint has never really had the latest and greatest. This could be a good thing though. I mean think about it. Sprint knows Android is big. They also know 2010 is their coming out party for WiMax. My theory is that Sprint is waiting for HTC to come out with a WiMax or EVDO/WiMax hybrid android phone. I expect by summer or, more likely, fall 2010 we will have the latest and greatest WiMax capable 1Ghz+ Android 2.1 (2.5 if it's released by then) phone. I figure by then I can sell my Hero and, assuming I have a job by then, by the coolest phone.
It's all a waiting game. Sad but that's what it all comes down to.
Yeah, Gizmodo has rumors of a Sprint WiMax HTC Android phone.. and from now on obviously HTC will have Snapdragons or better on all their flagship phones. We'll have a better phone than Nexus One with WiMax, which no other carrier will have.. thinkabout it.
In the mean time, embrace in the fact that we had the Hero when nobody else did.
I heard lots of problems of N1.
Google is hurry for the cellphone market.
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Yeah, Gizmodo has rumors of a Sprint WiMax HTC Android phone.. and from now on obviously HTC will have Snapdragons or better on all their flagship phones. We'll have a better phone than Nexus One with WiMax, which no other carrier will have.. thinkabout it.
In the mean time, embrace in the fact that we had the Hero when nobody else did.
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I work for Sprint and its true about the Android 4g phone it will be comming up and it will be a LG phone don't know name on it but it will be hitting stores when 4g is mostly everywhere.:. I read about the on engaget.com n I'm assuming we will get the phone sometime by the end of 2rd q or beginning of 3rd quarter
eldiablito004 said:
I work for Sprint and its true about the Android 4g phone it will be comming up and it will be a LG phone don't know name on it but it will be hitting stores when 4g is mostly everywhere.:. I read about the on engaget.com n I'm assuming we will get the phone sometime by the end of 2rd q or beginning of 3rd quarter
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Dude, most definitely it won't be a LG phone. They make **** phones to begin with.
http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/08/sprint-bringing-on-a9292-wimax-phone-from-htc/
It will be HTC. For sure.
wow dual core 1.5ghz processor..dont think its really necessary since the iphone has full 3d insane graphic games with 600mhz processor..1ghz is great for me..
im seriously wanting to go to tmobile for that nexus one..but that $570 is just killing me and i am not going to pay $80 a month for phone..much rather pay $39 for unlimited internet and just use voip because i have great 3g coverage down here in irvine
i work for sprint to =)
and yes the android device with wiimax WILL be an htc device but also
LG will be making an android device for us called the Prada 3
i think when our hero's get the 2.1 update we will be caught up....thats all we need to catch up i think
sprint HAS to get an android phone with the snapdragon proc..
Joecrack305 said:
i work for sprint to =)
and yes the android device with wiimax WILL be an htc device but also
LG will be making an android device for us called the Prada 3
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any word on when these will hit the market ????
Agree'd, once we get 2.1 it will be great.
Sprint already carries smart phones from Motorola, Samsung, LG, Blackberry and HTC, plus they just added the HTC Touch Pro2. How many smart phones do they need? People need to stop shopping equipment and start thinking about service, rate plans, Monthly fee's, coverage areas and customer assistance, not to mention the reputation of the carrier. Damn, we all pay a monthly bill, its not for the phone we use, its the service plan we all have that compliments whatever phone equipment you want or have. Sprint has given us a nice selection to pick from imo.
Moving on, next topic pls........
looking forward to a 4g HTC Bravo!
eldiablito004 said:
I work for Sprint and its true about the Android 4g phone it will be comming up and it will be a LG phone don't know name on it but it will be hitting stores when 4g is mostly everywhere.:. I read about the on engaget.com n I'm assuming we will get the phone sometime by the end of 2rd q or beginning of 3rd quarter
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one problem with that statement......4g wont be "mostly everywhere" fo a couple more years. Planned for 2010 are Boston, Houston, New York, San Francisco and Washington, D.C. and only a handful of other smaller cities.
dont forget miami conference being held this week exactly
http://4g-wirelessevolution.tmcnet.com/conference/east-10/

X10 coming to AT&T, 2.1 in Q4

http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2010...n=Feed:+TheBoyGeniusReport+(Boy+Genius+Report)
Not good news...looks like Q4 for 2.1.
Why do you say that? "Coming weeks" falls in line with the end of Q3 schedule quite nicely.
AT&T is too late.
x10 isn't as attractive than evo 4g or droid x or galaxy S.
Not to mention Iphone.
I don't see their sales will go up. Now if x10 was released in feb or match by At&T that's another story.
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AT&T is too late.
x10 isn't as attractive than evo 4g or droid x or galaxy S.
Not to mention Iphone.
I don't see their sales will go up. Now if x10 was released in feb or match by At&T that's another story.
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What do u mean x10 isn't attractive?Galaxy S is just another iphone ripoff, evo 4g looks like a brick sent into a squashing machine and while the droid x doesn't look too bad, it doesn't compare to the X10's design
wrongfeifong said:
AT&T is too late.
x10 isn't as attractive than evo 4g or droid x or galaxy S.
Not to mention Iphone.
I don't see their sales will go up. Now if x10 was released in feb or match by At&T that's another story.
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what? are you serious ?
Sadly, North americans are people that sulk in pursuing numbers and names. Not their functions nor design.
If not then Iphone wouldn't be sold so many here. which iphone user actually looked into and compare the function of Iphone against other before buying an Iphone.
And evo 4g isn't really 4g (from what i read). But everyone think it is 4g and buy it out.
While functions, x10 lost to all the latest phones. The only thing that is attractive enough is SE's brand name, which some of us bought it because of it.
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Sadly, North americans are people that sulk in pursuing numbers and names. Not their functions nor design.
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I'm not into names, numbers or looks, only function.
Bought the X10 because it was/is the largest screen Android phone in Canada with North American 3G. (wasn't going to pay $800 to import an N1)
Happy with Android 1.6 but wish it did BT Voice Dial.
Don't care about looks which is why I stuck a 2600mAh battery in it's butt
BTW, I also never understood the iPhone attraction.
x10 is very good looking in white or black, It fits in the hand good not like the hd2. Soon or later 2.1 would come, and I don't care about 2.2. Anyway, all I want to say is x10 is good and just give it a try.
Sorry, but your posts make no sense. The Evo 4G is 4G, which is available only in a very limited number of major American cities.
The Evo 4G is not a true competitor for any other phone because it is such a niche product.
The Galaxy S, Droid Incredible, Droid X, and Droid 2 are the X10's biggest competition, but I assume that AT&T will price the X10 accordingly (i.e. lower than the others).
hmm so where is HondaGuy? Any answers for doubting me that the X10 is coming to AT&T since I was the first to state it a while ago?
The AT&T logo appears only in the back on the cover, we get to keep our XPERIA logo on the front
And 2.1 will be ready near the end of Q3 in September, the Q4 one is something else Let's just say we will be happy 2 more times with our X10 before the year ends
As late as the x10 is coming into the game for the american market, I feel that it is still plenty competitive with other flagship smartphones. There are only few minor issues with the x10, being the lack of MT and the lower built in ram and rom.
If at&t markets the phone correctly to those looking for a high quality camera phone, I think the x10 can make a great impression. While looks is an interpretive concept, I have heard a lot of positive comments about the phone's design and imo is currently the best looking phone available with android. For those reasons, I think the x10 will definitely get some crapple converts.
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The way that the 4 is selling out everywhere, no "crapple" owner is going to convert.
However, plenty of RIM users will jump onto the Android train.
These are hish wash here in the US. You go to ATT local store all you can see is selection of 10 crappy phone which they have put four of each in every corner (4x10 - 40 crappy phones) and a stand with iPhone on it. I have been ATT customer for 4 years now and I have never bought a phone from them. Phone Company in the US suck with no options. People don't care about the phone, as long as it has iphone options or some cool other feature or even if it doesn't.
We see the phones as gadget many people don't see it that way.
I wish t-mobile could bring their European policy here in the US.$0 for phone anything you like.
Let them be happy with their iPhone. as long as they are not using it for their pregnancy test.
Some reason I think X10 will do great in US.
When X10 was realesed, I doubted that it won't really do well in front of HTC and Motorola as it was Sony Ericsson's first Android device and no multitouch with 1.6
When I bought, I was amazed. I think the user experience is Brilliant!!! Top notch phone with hardware specs. The problem is not X10, it's the Sony Ericsson's delays with upgrades, but not to forget they are catching up. It's not they are not doing anything about it

interesting reading on 2.2 and samsung

http://m.examiner.com/exSanFrancisco/pm_75809/contentdetail.htm?contentguid=WzckuLg6
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I can accept that story or some other form it. I mean, it is out in Europe and has been for some time. And they have been dropping new phones with 2.2 for a while now. Why wouldn't these A-holes release it in the States. Can't imagine they have been testing the firmware for the past 7 months.
I have the epic and our update got delayed too. I knew it had something to do some bs like this but why would they delay the epic update because it already has sprint 4g in it. They could be upgrading their wimax to lte or coming out with the bidder screen model with the super amoled plus screen and they will launch that with froyo and leave ours in the dust. I guess we will find out on the 3rd of feb at sprints special event
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I thought maybe Samsung was going to just skip 2.2 and release a 2.3 update because Samsung is already running 2.3 on their Nexus S.
I was actually going to buy an Epic tomorrow.
But, if this article is true, I am going to "devalue" Samsung and not buy their product.
[email protected] them if they are making existing customers suffer because of their greed.
Honestly, this is probably true. I know this sucks, but companies like this value their earnings more than their customers. Those of us who have been eagerly awaiting Froyo are in the minority, and they know that most of the people who own these devices couldn't care less about it.
This will probably be the last Samsung phone that I will ever buy, I'd rather give my money to a company which values their customers and provides customers with timely information regarding updates and the like.
This reminds me of the initial warnings about previous samsung devices and the lack of updates when the epic first came out. Although this is the best sprint phone I have owned to date I still wonder if I should have taken those warnings a little more seriously!
Yes I heard complaints in the past about Samsung's poor phone support but I still got the Epic. Mostly because my old phone (HTC Touch) died and it was going to cost $100 for a replacement (thanks lame Sprint insurance). So I just decided to get a new phone and compared to the Evo, the Epic seemed like the much better option. After experiencing Samsung's greed and lack of support for their existing products, I'm going back to HTC next go round.
Let's kill!
Agree. This most likely would've been the last Samsung phone I bought. This pretty much seals the deal.
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For my next phone I'm going to do exactly what I did with this phone. Find out what the best phone is.. check the phones out.. and go with the one that is the best. Right now, even after the Evo 4G Shift was released, the Epic and other Galaxy S phones are still the best phone. I have friends with the Evo, Droid X, MyTouch.. and I can safely say that I have the best phone. Those phones have 2.2, but I wouldn't THINK about switching to them. Do I want 2.2? Of course. I have it now thanks to custom roms but of course it kinda aggravates me that there is no official release of 2.2 yet. But that is ok. If I had a choice between a laptop with a Intel i3 running Windows 7 and a Intel i7 running Windows Vista (or even XP), I would take the i7.
In my opinion, company tactics will forever aggravate us users. Throwing around other company names like HTC as the company that will be this "knight in shining armor" will only dissappoint you in the future. I have had 3 HTC phones previously and without a doubt, I can say that they are definitely not beyond screwing their customers over. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying it is right, but I'm saying that it is not uncommon. The day that these companies become non-profit organizations is the day you will see them put customers first.. I'm not holding my breath.
HeXeD said:
For my next phone I'm going to do exactly what I did with this phone. Find out what the best phone is.. check the phones out.. and go with the one that is the best. Right now, even after the Evo 4G Shift was released, the Epic and other Galaxy S phones are still the best phone. I have friends with the Evo, Droid X, MyTouch.. and I can safely say that I have the best phone. Those phones have 2.2, but I wouldn't THINK about switching to them. Do I want 2.2? Of course. I have it now thanks to custom roms but of course it kinda aggravates me that there is no official release of 2.2 yet. But that is ok. If I had a choice between a laptop with a Intel i3 running Windows 7 and a Intel i7 running Windows Vista (or even XP), I would take the i7.
In my opinion, company tactics will forever aggravate us users. Throwing around other company names like HTC as the company that will be this "knight in shining armor" will only dissappoint you in the future. I have had 3 HTC phones previously and without a doubt, I can say that they are definitely not beyond screwing their customers over. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying it is right, but I'm saying that it is not uncommon. The day that these companies become non-profit organizations is the day you will see them put customers first.. I'm not holding my breath.
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I couldn't have said this better. I had debated typing this up earlier but you beat me to it. Great minds think alike
JD
As Lee Corso would say, 'not so fast my friend.' Before I scooped my Epic, I had the HTC Touch (the original way old Vogue) and the ppc6700 (the silver brick) before that. I never had any issues with software other than crappy windows mobile but when it came to updates and/or support, I was happy. Hardware was on point as well. Samsung Galaxy has been a major disappointment for me having owner various Samsung products and knowing that their hardware is excellent. Still think the Epic is terrific. Just disappointed at all the troubles that customers have experienced across the entire Galaxy lineup.
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I couldn't have said this better. I had debated typing this up earlier but you beat me to it. Great minds think alike
JD
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This page has more detailed information on the T-Mobile leaked rumor:
...Trust me when I tell you, we had an update for the original G1, and HTC begged us not to. In 75% of the cases known to me in my [time] here and my [time] dealing with Android I will say that honestly most upgrade hold offs were the Manufacturer and NOT us as some believe. But we catch the flack.
I am tired. [redacted] I am up to here with Samsung. They pulled the same thing with the Behold 2 that I MYSELF had to clean up and caught wind over. The update to 2.1 update 1 is existant...
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If true, this shows how completely and utterly out of touch Samsung's executives are with reality.
First of all, the whole theory that a 2.2-Vibrant(non-4G) would "devalue" the 4G. EVEN IF the only difference between the old and new Vibrant were the front camera and 4G, how many users likely to notice or care about whether or not the current Vibrant has 2.2 would *honestly* choose to buy the old model instead of the new one, even if it were a $50 difference between the two? People who buy $50 phones or wait months to get an old model on closeout for "free" with 2-year contract aren't the people who buy phones like the Epic, Vibrant, and the rest of the Galaxy S family. People in "our" category might ******* about a $50 difference... but we'll pay it anyway, because we know that if we don't, we'll be miserable and regret it daily for the next year or two.
Ditto, for customers who already own a Vibrant. In the entire United f***ing States, there *might* be 10,000 Vibrant owners who'll dump one and buy a Vibrant4G at full retail just to get 4G and/or the front camera. And I'll bet that a hefty subset of that group are T-Mobile employees whose "full" cost (after employee discount) is roughly what the rest of us would pay for a subsidized phone with contract, anyway. Now, having satisfied that group... how many more existing Vibrant customers do they REALLY think they're going to get by withholding 2.2 from owners of older Vibrants? Especially considering the abundance of custom ROMs.
The rationale becomes even more absurd when you consider the case of withholding 2.2 from Epic4G owners. I'm sure if you combed America hard enough, you might find a few Epic4G owners who'd dump it, pay the ETF to Sprint, switch to T-Mobile, and buy a Vibrant4G... but scratch a bit deeper, and I'd bet a major body part that the overwhelming majority of THAT group consists of users who probably wanted to switch anyway, and the existence of the Vibrant4G was more of an enabling excuse and rationale than an actual *reason*.
Companies like Samsung just don't seem to "get it". Consumers might chuck a $25 mp3 player to buy a newer, cooler one in 4 months. Statistically NOBODY chucks an expensive pocket computer whose marginal replacement cost exceeds $400 for an incremental improvement 4-6 months down the line. The closest ANY phone has probably come to motivating early switching was the Evo, and that was basically because the Evo was roughly twice as good as the Hero in almost every meaningful way, and worse in basically none. Users MIGHT be induced to switch early for 10x faster data, twice the cpu speed, 50% more resolution on a screen nearly twice the size, and a lot more ram. Users are NOT going to casually switch because one has 2.2 and one is officially stuck at 2.1... they're just going to root, reflash, and promise their deity of choice that they'll never buy another Samsung phone again.
If anything, T-Mobile is the biggest loser, because if true, this means that Samsung is effectively doing its best to devalue T-Mobile's inventory of existing unsold Vibrants. Now, if T-Mobile charges $10/month more for 4G service, that might merit trying harder to induce otherwise-indifferent new purchasers to go with the 4G model instead of the old model... but if it's the same price per month for service, it's to T-Mobile's own advantage to all but encourage new customers who are indifferent between the two to go with the old one... it's one less phone for T-Mobile to write off as a loss and send to a spare parts warehouse to gather dust until it ends up in a landfill or gets dumped on a new penny-pinching customer who only cares that it's "free" with 2-year contract, and one fewer customer who'll start abusing youtube as a source of free in-car music on demand (soaking up lots of bandwidth in the process).
This is the kind of logic that leaves me wondering how some big corporations can even stay in business. I worked for one a couple of years ago where we were ordered to *immediately* dispose of a hundred or so old laptops -- at a cost of $250 apiece -- instead of keeping them piled on a few shelves in a storage room in case we came up with a good use for them someday (like using them as thin clients for call center operators... something we had, in fact, done before). The executive rationale? The accountants complained that they were "costing" us $5,000/month to store based on the square-foot value of the space they were taking up in the closet, and somebody's wet dream fantasies about the value of that space. The thing is, we were about ~15 employees in a warehouse-like facility almost a square city block in size that was 95% empty (built during the dotcom boom, then the company was stuck with it due to a glut of similar buildings nearby). So, we burned $25,000 in the name of emptying off a 4x6 foot steel shelving unit, basically to humor the delusional fantasies of a faceless borg more concerned with a checklist item than getting actual work done and bringing in revenue. Madness. Pure, faceless, bureaucratically-driven out of control insanity.
HeXeD said:
For my next phone I'm going to do exactly what I did with this phone. Find out what the best phone is.. check the phones out.. and go with the one that is the best. Right now, even after the Evo 4G Shift was released, the Epic and other Galaxy S phones are still the best phone. I have friends with the Evo, Droid X, MyTouch.. and I can safely say that I have the best phone. Those phones have 2.2, but I wouldn't THINK about switching to them. Do I want 2.2? Of course. I have it now thanks to custom roms but of course it kinda aggravates me that there is no official release of 2.2 yet. But that is ok. If I had a choice between a laptop with a Intel i3 running Windows 7 and a Intel i7 running Windows Vista (or even XP), I would take the i7.
In my opinion, company tactics will forever aggravate us users. Throwing around other company names like HTC as the company that will be this "knight in shining armor" will only dissappoint you in the future. I have had 3 HTC phones previously and without a doubt, I can say that they are definitely not beyond screwing their customers over. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying it is right, but I'm saying that it is not uncommon. The day that these companies become non-profit organizations is the day you will see them put customers first.. I'm not holding my breath.
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I agree with you and I really love my Epic BUT.... I can't help wondering how much better the phone would be with the upgrade.
Also Im sure this has been posted but this is an interesting read rating carriers and manufacturers on their upgrade rate.
looks to be true. This is on the front page of yahoo news.
http://www.pcworld.com/article/216716/samsung_blocking_ota_update_on_tmobile.html
Also made it to Slashdot!
http://it.slashdot.org/story/11/01/13/2334213/Is-Samsung-Blocking-Updates-To-Froyo
And PC World:
http://www.pcworld.com/article/216716/samsung_blocking_ota_update_on_tmobile.html
I have a feeling some people at Samsung are having a very bad day indeed.
Nexus S reboot problem:
Google Nexus S, google's second handset is in the limelight for wrong reasons this time. Looks like, the nexus S handsets are randomly rebooting atleast once every 48 hours, usually during a voice call! Google has officially confirmed this bug in their support forum. All the handsets that has been updated to the latest version of gingerbread (Android 2.3.1/GRH78) are affected by this bug.
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User's post from Slashdot story:
The real reason they are stonewalling on the 2.2 update for Vibrant is this: When they released the 2.2 update for the Vibrant in Canada, the update worked fine for a week or two, and then like clockwork bricked a huge percentage of the phones that updated. And when I say bricked, I'm not being liberal with that word, after a week or so running the Samsung 2.2 update, the SD card would become corrupt, and recovery mode would be unable to format it. My wife and I both have Vibrants, and it happened to them both one day apart. Samsung has been silent on the matter. Not surprising they'd avoid moving sending the 2.2 update out to US Vibrant owners, and also not surprising that they're refusing to explain why. Bell at least is fixing them, but lots of people on the XDA forum are saying their "repaired" phones are bricking again in short order.
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Samsung's official response to CNET's query about the rumor:
Samsung Mobile does not comment on rumors or speculation. With regard to the Froyo update, we recently issued the following statement: "Samsung feels it is important to make the Android 2.2/Froyo upgrade available only after we feel that we can give the millions of U.S. Galaxy S owners a simple and reliable upgrade experience. Due to the complexity and unique functionality of each Galaxy S device, we are performing additional testing and are working to make the Android 2.2/Froyo upgrade available to all U.S. Galaxy S owners, including the Samsung Vibrant, as soon as possible.
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Just to add to this conversation --> Just got off a chat with Sprint and I kept asking them about Froyo for the Epic. Everytime I mentioned it, the Sprint rep would direct me to Samsung and it's their fault. I think they got mad that I kept asking and pushing the subject, that they said they could no longer help me on the chat and gave me Samsung's number to call.
Looking at Samsung's facebook account, there a bunch of people complaining about this issue. Hopefully all this pressure will make Samsung cave in. *crosses fingers*
I call bull****.
Having come from the Crackberry world, this sort of stuff happens all the time. A supposed "reliable source" will leak some sort of story, the fringe enthusiast sites get wind of it and generates chatter and it eventually gets picked up by a naive journalist with a lazy editor and it gets put up as "legit" news which then causes a feedback loop which causes the internet to explore.
The example that comes to mind is the OS 4.7.0.113 update for the Blackberry Storm 9530 on Verizon, a leaked OS that "reliable sources" claimed was going to be the next official update but wasn't. It made it to PC World as well:
http://www.pcworld.com/article/163056/blackberry_storm_to_get_firmware_update.html
And it was 100% bull****. So I wouldn't give this rumor much credence.
The explanation of not wanting to take the wind out of the sails of the Vibrant 4G is irrelevant to other Galaxy S models where there is no similar Osbourne effect - such as with the Epic 4G.
My guess is that the actual explanation is much more mundane. Given the problem with Froyo bricking Vibrants, I would bet dollars to donuts that Samsung got super gunshy and their slow approach to Froyo updates to smaller markets is nothing more than a widespread, low-risk beta test to make sure their code is up to snuff before risking releasing an unstable update to the larger, litigious American Galaxy S userbases.

HTC new line up

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=syBTF5RGd1c&feature=feedu
d12bn said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=syBTF5RGd1c&feature=feedu
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Anything for Sprint?
Nope. All weak minor updates to current phones.
Still gotta wait it seems.....
sent from my 2.2 HTC Hero
underwhelming to say the least
also whoever brought the leno chin back needs to be kicked off R&D, and also could they make the facebook button look anymore like an after thought?
Boo! C' mon htc, quit messing around! Get those quad core snapdragons and get your ass in gear! Still, like tk said, underwhelming.
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Sent from my CDMA Hero. I got some hot Froyo-on-Hero action here!
user7618 said:
Boo! C' mon htc, quit messing around! Get those quad core snapdragons and get your ass in gear! Still, like tk said, underwhelming.
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Sent from my CDMA Hero. I got some hot Froyo-on-Hero action here!
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Agreed. Can't wait for the "next gen" android phones
It's killing me to see the lack of phones for Sprint. You would think we'd hear about a Hero 2 or EVO 4G 2 - but nada. I'm sorry but Sanyo just is not what I think of when innovation and exciting are referenced.
I doubt we will hear much of anything for Sprint at MWC, as it's more directed towards the European and Asian markets.
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Sent from my CDMA Hero. I got some hot Froyo-on-Hero action here!
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It's killing me to see the lack of phones for Sprint. You would think we'd hear about a Hero 2 or EVO 4G 2 - but nada. I'm sorry but Sanyo just is not what I think of when innovation and exciting are referenced.
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Sprint always does this they get a big flagship phone but then they let them get long in the tooth or a they Target to take on another phone, also they really bank on that phone instead of diversifying
Examples
HTC touch
Samsung instinct
Palm pre
And it looks like the evo will follow the trend atleast it was spec'd decently well to start instead of being DOA like before
I think Sprint is banking on this echo more than they should
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Yeah - its reasonable to suspect we wouldn't hear anything but Verizon is out there and they are US based... Either way - nothing impressive for HTC/Sprint thus far.
Aren't they still owned by vodafone though?
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Yeah - its reasonable to suspect we wouldn't hear anything but Verizon is out there and they are US based... Either way - nothing impressive for HTC/Sprint thus far.
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When HTC announces new phones, expect Sprint to get rebranded versions months later (see: EVO, Shift, Hero).
seems like sprint always focuses their attention to one or two phones
I wish Sprint would come out with one really nice new phone already, like the evo, but updated to be high-end in the newer market...
The best device, it seems, that was announced by HTC is the Flyer. That looks pretty cool.
and when sprint gets a new android whoever knows when later cellsouth will get it
You think Motorola will finally give Sprint some attention? Verizon brought the majority of Motorola's mobile revenue but now that Verizon will probably be spending the majority of their advertising coin on promoting the Iphone Motorola must be switching gears, as we starting to see with the introduction of the Atrix on At&t.
I'm also a little split with my upgrade. I don't know whether to upgrade on Sprint and risk my 4g device becoming obsolete when Sprint adopts LTE, as one of the top CEO has admitted they are considering, or jump ship and join T-mobile.
Whats your guys opinion on your next upgrade?
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You think Motorola will finally give Sprint some attention? Verizon brought the majority of Motorola's mobile revenue but now that Verizon will probably be spending the majority of their advertising coin on promoting the Iphone Motorola must be switching gears, as we starting to see with the introduction of the Atrix on At&t.
I'm also a little split with my upgrade. I don't know whether to upgrade on Sprint and risk my 4g device becoming obsolete when Sprint adopts LTE, as one of the top CEO has admitted they are considering, or jump ship and join T-mobile.
Whats your guys opinion on your next upgrade?
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Sorry about that went really of track . It meant to be a comment on how Sprint next flagship device will probably be a Motorola device and not a HTC device.

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