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Gaming and Netflix are a pain on this tablet

Trying to simply select a show in the Netflix app with this tablet is a complete chore. The new UI combined with the crappy hardware makes it almost impossible. Everything seems to move at about 1 frame per second when scrolling through your instant queue or the list of categories. It takes way too long to find what I'm looking for. That said, the actual video playback is fine. But this problem seems to persist in other apps. I can't play Tiny Tower because using the elevator after buildling 20+ floors is a choppy mess and takes twice as long as it should if the game ran smoothly. There's similar problems in games like TowerDefense and news apps like Pulse, where the tablet struggles to load anything. The Play Store is laughable, because once you start downloading anything the entire thing locks up until it's finished and it seems to have no ability to multitask whatsoever.
Why does this tablet exist? The hardware is ****, the price point is equally ****ty (I have the 10.1 so it's $400), and Samsung doesn't seem to care that ICS is a choppy mess with the specs. I'm incredibly disappointed.

I was thinking the same thing until I installed CM9
I was thinking the same thing until I installed CM9.
I was actually considering the Nexus 7, but am quite satisfied with the Galaxy Tab 2 7 now. With Cyanogenmod's announcement about CM10 and Jelly Bean I am pretty excited about the future of this tablet too.

Quacker said:
Trying to simply select a show in the Netflix app with this tablet is a complete chore. The new UI combined with the crappy hardware makes it almost impossible. Everything seems to move at about 1 frame per second when scrolling through your instant queue or the list of categories. It takes way too long to find what I'm looking for. That said, the actual video playback is fine. But this problem seems to persist in other apps. I can't play Tiny Tower because using the elevator after buildling 20+ floors is a choppy mess and takes twice as long as it should if the game ran smoothly. There's similar problems in games like TowerDefense and news apps like Pulse, where the tablet struggles to load anything. The Play Store is laughable, because once you start downloading anything the entire thing locks up until it's finished and it seems to have no ability to multitask whatsoever.
Why does this tablet exist? The hardware is *EDIT*, the price point is equally *EDIT* (I have the 10.1 so it's $400), and Samsung doesn't seem to care that ICS is a choppy mess with the specs. I'm incredibly disappointed.
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Odd, I have a great experience with mine and it is just rooted stock. I traded in my asus tf300 for this and so far am quite happy with its snappy performance and colorful display.
Also, your language doesn't really help nor is it allowed. Having an angry rage post on a forum really isn't going to help anyone out so I would suggest calming down next time before posting on xda developers.

Recommend you do some research b4 you just start complaining about the device and software . I'm rooted and stock factory ROM and have no complaints. Get Titanium Backup and freeze or uninstall the apps you don't use (I froze them ) and the tab is now as fast and snapy as it should b . Also no problems with Netflix
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My only experience is limited to my Galaxy Tab 2 7.0. It is completely stock.
Netflix works perfectly and I do not notice any lag when browsing for movies.
During playback ,the video looks nice, much better than my iPad 2 and HP
Touchpad(Classicnerd ICS rom), but that's probably because the other two are
10-inch tablets.

I plan to try CM9 once my micro sd card arrives in the mail, but I'm not optimistic.
But you guys really don't get any lag whatsoever in the Netflix app? I'm using stock unrooted and I can barely scroll through the different rows; it practically locks up. The 7.0 and 10.1 have the same specs, right? I wonder if anyone else with the 10.1 has this problem.
@Darunion: Why did you trade your TF300 for the Tab 2, out of curiosity? I've been considering the exact opposite. And I apologize if a couple of s-words offended you somehow; I know we're all adults here but if it's indeed against the rules I will refrain next time. I'm not "raging" at all, but I just thought those adjectives worked best when describing this very frustrating tablet. /firstworldproblems

I have the 7 and haven't had any lag with cm9 and almost non existent lag on stock. I have a friend with the 10 and he can search/play with nextflix just fine.
I nor my friend have ever seen the tab lock up when downloading from the play store either.
Sounds like you got a bad tab more then anything.
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Found a video that shows what I'm talking about, albeit on the TF300, which suggests that this might not be a problem specifically for this tablet but rather the app's lack of tablet optimization. I'm finding it even laggier than shown here and sometimes I can't scroll at all (it also FC's regularly), but I may have been too quick to blame the Tab 2's hardware. This might just be an inherent disadvantage for Android tablets, and I'm experiencing similar sluggishness in similar apps.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hjhufve38r0&feature=player_detailpage#t=609s

Quacker said:
Found a video that shows what I'm talking about, albeit on the TF300, which suggests that this might not be a problem specifically for this tablet but rather the app's lack of tablet optimization. I'm finding it even laggier than shown here and sometimes I can't scroll at all (it also FC's regularly), but I may have been too quick to blame the Tab 2's hardware. This might just be an inherent disadvantage for Android tablets, and I'm experiencing similar sluggishness in similar apps.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hjhufve38r0&feature=player_detailpage#t=609s
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I saw a review on the nexus 7. It wasnt laggy, but it wasnt as quick as the galaxy nexus with jellybean because of the companion core and the lack if iptimization in the os. With the galaxy tabs on jellybean itll be a lot quicker. That optimization may be fixed too, it could have just been the stupid companion core doing most of it.

I have yet to enjoy a good netflix UI on any device. Quality of hardware is a relative concept.
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pogu said:
I have yet to enjoy a good netflix UI on any device. Quality of hardware is a relative concept.
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I use Netflix on tablets, phones, PC, and PS3.
PS3 is hooked up to a Panasonic 1080p projector
with a 133" Da-Lite screen. Netflix works best
on this setup... but it's probably because the PS3
has the best graphics capability?
However, I enjoy watching Netflix on my Samsung
Galaxy Nexus(phone) and my Galaxy Tab 2 7.0(tablet)
as well. They all work equally well, depending on
the quality of VZW 4G and/or wi-fi.

Quacker said:
I plan to try CM9 once my micro sd card arrives in the mail, but I'm not optimistic.
But you guys really don't get any lag whatsoever in the Netflix app? I'm using stock unrooted and I can barely scroll through the different rows; it practically locks up. The 7.0 and 10.1 have the same specs, right? I wonder if anyone else with the 10.1 has this problem.
@Darunion: Why did you trade your TF300 for the Tab 2, out of curiosity? I've been considering the exact opposite. And I apologize if a couple of s-words offended you somehow; I know we're all adults here but if it's indeed against the rules I will refrain next time. I'm not "raging" at all, but I just thought those adjectives worked best when describing this very frustrating tablet. /firstworldproblems
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I've really had no problem what so ever. I can't stand even 100th of a second in lag. You might just have hardware issues. I heart netflix. I switched to cm because I'm a fan. Not because of issues. My 7 tab is books and video only. And runs like a champ
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I do always enjoy watching netflix, its the browsing. Roku, smart tvs, blue ray players, video game consoles, mobile devices, etc. The browsing UI always sucks, honestly I think wii had the best browsing experience but the worst picture.
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Ok possible fix for Netflix try clearing data and force stop . I just did that and it feels more responsive . Also now I can choose the seasons of the episodes I was watching
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Happens to me 1 or 2 times a month. A fast reboot solves the problem every time.

Hey guys.
I would recommend you wstch this nice National Geographic documentaries, the landscaping and many of the images are outstanding.They look pretty nice on our tabs.

update to 4.04 made Netflix much snappier.
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I have had no problem with Netflix or video or lag in general, actually less than my nexus7. And woah..language!!!lol
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Netflix working awesome on Galaxy Nexus, Nook Color, Galaxy Tab2 7, PS3, Roku, laptops and desktops. When the competition fails Netflix has always succeed for me. Are there hiccups? Sure and they are mostly associated with the UI but you can't be all things to all people and devices. Thing is NOBODY comes as close as Netflix.

I have been using Netflix on my 7-inch Tab 2 for over a month. It's really smooth and I do not notice any lag at all.

anyone else have buffering issues

just got it for x mas and have not rooted so its not anything with that but when watching HULU or youtube (HQ, low seems okay) this thing seems to buffer constantly drives me nuts as my KF (first gen) doesnt do it at all.
anyone else with these issues, will rooting and roming help?
thanks

Try a hard reset hold the power button for 30 seconds
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tevil said:
just got it for x mas and have not rooted so its not anything with that but when watching HULU or youtube (HQ, low seems okay) this thing seems to buffer constantly drives me nuts as my KF (first gen) doesnt do it at all.
anyone else with these issues, will rooting and roming help?
thanks
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Youtube is painfully slow for me as well in HD. I learned that watching the video in the Chrome browser actually works and it does not buffer. Try a speedtest in the closest town near you to ensure that it is not a hardware issue.

drake90001 said:
Youtube is painfully slow for me as well in HD. I learned that watching the video in the Chrome browser actually works and it does not buffer. Try a speedtest in the closest town near you to ensure that it is not a hardware issue.
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bigger issue is hulu honestly. between commericals it has buffered to all out stopping and blaming my wireless when my GF's ipad is fine.
Im starting to worry the signal strength on the nexus7 isnt as strong as even my old kindle or mine is defective.

Might be your ROM, I remember one old one on my phone would only play low quality for some reason
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[Q] Netflix flicker

When I am streaming a Netflix video the screen jumps/flashes/flickers but only for a millisecond. After a few weeks of enjoying this tablet I finally nailed down what is actually happening. One frame of the video from <minute past, reappears on the screen; just for that millisecond. (I am not using millisecond in its exact technical length.)
Now this may be happening at other times but last evening is when I recognized the frame which I had already seen, reappear within that millisecond; it may be appearing in other venues too but I don't recall such.
Anyone else?

I have the same issue. Very annoying. Combined with the random crashing issue, I'd say that the Nexus needs a few more app/software iterations.

I was having the same issue when I was watching supernatural on it, it scared me for a sec when it did that, as I was watching a scary episode but yeah this only happens with netflix. Because earlier I streamed a cricket match for 8 hours straight on mx video and it was fine.
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I watched a lot of Netflix this weekend while traveling (tethered to my phone). Never once did my screen flicker.

I have seen this as well. I wonder if its got something to do with the Netflix app itself because other video apps don't exhibit this phenomenon. Also in stock ROM I never experienced this but I sure am on CM 10.1 M1.
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[Q] Chromecast really choppy only with this phone?

Hey guys, I just bought a chromecast (really awesome little thing), but whenever I play anything from this phone to it, its really slow and choppy. When I use my HTC one, it works great, just like the demo yesterday. Is there anything that could be causing this? My nexus is on 4.3 and my HTC one is on 4.2.2. Suggestions? Thanks!
I know this probably isn't the right place to post it, but seeing as there is no section for the chromecast and this problem is only happening with this phone, I figured it was close enough.

Maybe it has to do with 4.3?

Note that the phone doesn't actually stream content to Chromecast. Like the Q, Chromecast goes out to the net and streams the content directly, based on instructions it gets from your phone. As to why it works well when instructed by the HTC, and choppy from the Nexus is quite the puzzler. Only Google could mangle their own flagship with their latest toy. )c:
By the way, did you get 4.3 OTA, or did you flash it.

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Note that the phone doesn't actually stream content to Chromecast. Like the Q, Chromecast goes out to the net and streams the content directly, based on instructions it gets from your phone. As to why it works well when instructed by the HTC, and choppy from the Nexus is quite the puzzler. Only Google could mangle their own flagship with their latest toy. )c:
By the way, did you get 4.3 OTA, or did you flash it.
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Exactly, at least that's what I thought. Its really puzzling. I'm going to give google a call to see if they can help. I doubt it, but its worth a try.

You know my girlfriend and I recently purchased a ChromeCast also. I do have to say for everything this device does $35(!) is a steal, easily does what $100+ devices do, and 3 months of FREE Netflix! Anyways, I'm running a recent build of PACman and Franco kernel m3(or m2) and our Chromecast will work just fine but the moment I turn WiFi on the Nexus, it somehow interferes with the connection. The Chromecast becomes undetectable... It works with my iMac, Hisense Sero 7 Pro, still haven't tried her iPad or Galaxy Note 2 (stock)... Anyone else run into this issue?

With Nexus 7 and Nexus 4, both stock, unrooted, 4.2.2, I have yet to see any issues and am pretty impressed. Will report back after I get the 4.3 OTA to see if that introduces any glitches.
BTW, there is a noticeable lag on Chrome tabs from my MacBook Pro, but considering what it is doing I am not surprised.

Solutions Etcetera said:
With Nexus 7 and Nexus 4, both stock, unrooted, 4.2.2, I have yet to see any issues and am pretty impressed. Will report back after I get the 4.3 OTA to see if that introduces any glitches.
BTW, there is a noticeable lag on Chrome tabs from my MacBook Pro, but considering what it is doing I am not surprised.
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when I try with buildin app (Netflex and Youtube) it doesn't lag at all, however, when I try to cast from chrome browser, not only the chromecast side is getting choppy, the laptop side is choppy as well, I tried with my windows 8 laptop, and also chromebook.
In addition, if you cast from chromebrowser, and make it full screen. you cannot multitask to do anything else on the laptop.
Hope more native apps are ready for this little device.

bold2 said:
when I try with buildin app (Netflex and Youtube) it doesn't lag at all, however, when I try to cast from chrome browser, not only the chromecast side is getting choppy, the laptop side is choppy as well, I tried with my windows 8 laptop, and also chromebook.
In addition, if you cast from chromebrowser, and make it full screen. you cannot multitask to do anything else on the laptop.
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Yeah, you need a fair amount of horsepower to cast from chrome. Surprised a chrome book worked at all.

Solutions Etcetera said:
Yeah, you need a fair amount of horsepower to cast from chrome. Surprised a chrome book worked at all.
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Well, at launch it was supposed to support the Chromebook Pixel. So maybe that's what he has. This is a good resource to see what to expect out of a given configuration:
https://support.google.com/chromecast/answer/3209990?hl=en&ref_topic=3210038

Solutions Etcetera said:
Yeah, you need a fair amount of horsepower to cast from chrome. Surprised a chrome book worked at all.
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I don't have pixel, just samsung version. and from my I7 laptop, it improve a little, but still not the result I like. wish that the cast will redir the chrome URL from sender machine to the receiver side, then not depend on the sender anymore. I believe netflex and youtube are acting like that.

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I don't have pixel, just samsung version. and from my I7 laptop, it improve a little, but still not the result I like. wish that the cast will redir the chrome URL from sender machine to the receiver side, then not depend on the sender anymore. I believe netflex and youtube are acting like that.
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Yes, but the whole point of Chrome tabs is live send and interactive display of whats in the tabs. That wouldn't be possible with a redirected url.

I am out of my neighborhood but using Chromecast (CC) on my VZW S3. So far I've found:
I cannot "cast" from my S3 if I connected to cellular data. Both the S3 and CC must be logged into the same network. If WiFi is turned ON data will turn OFF.
I cannot cast from my S3 Chrome browser. Seems that only works with the beta desktop browser.
I can ONLY cast from Netflix, YouTube and Google media and only if connected to WiFi.
Is what I am seeing correct or am doing something wrong?

Cast Moto X Screen to Chromecast

Cast Moto X screen to Chromecast!
Change build.prop line ro.product.device to hammerhead then save and reboot.
Easy!
I posted here in Android Development because those with unrooted phones can't do this...plus, it's just a downright cool tweak.
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Thanks, very easy ?
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As mentioned prior, I was able to hack my build.prop, to convince Chromecast that my phone is a Nexus 5... After a reboot, the CastScreen option populated and just started working.
Initial thoughts... While it is still in beta, I figured with all the hype casting would be pretty polished by now.
Not so much.
The Chromecast struggles to produce video, and seems to heavily compress (or take a long time) to render anything. Photos do fairly well, but streaming video from phone to TV is totally useless.. I also recognized early on that the Chromecast doesn't seem to support 5g wireless, which would likely help a great deal with throughput.
I have seen a few YouTube videos showing better casting results, but using true Nexus gear. To be fair, there's a chance the Moto X isn't officially supported yet because Google may want to push all of this heavy lifting through our GPU.
Oh well, always fun trying new things.
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One last thing...I encourage others to post their experiences here
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I discovered this build.prop edit on my own yesterday and tested it out. I noticed the heavy compression at first but things smooth out after a few moments. Quality seemed to be fairly good from what I could see. I'm I've got an 802.11ac router really close to my tv that my phone was connected to on 5ghz (though my chromecast was connected on 2.4ghz n). So maybe that had something to do with it. Playing sonic dash showed smooth clean graphics, but the latency was just a tad too slow to rely on the TV as a screen and the phone as a controller.
Watching MLB.TV quality definitely suffered a little and wasn't quite as smooth. Perhaps that was because I was streaming so there was data going back and forth to the router.
Also, note there is another post on XDA with an app someone threw together to enable mirroring on any device: http://forum.xda-developers.com/har...experimental-enable-mirroring-device-t2812193

I would guess this performance will be on par with casting a tab from Chrome on your PC. I know that experience sucks.

scoobaspeaz said:
I would guess this performance will be on par with casting a tab from Chrome on your PC. I know that experience sucks.
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I do this wired from a desktop and it works extremely well - video, audio, whatever. I haven't tried the phone yet... but I'd check your network.

tdiman said:
I do this wired from a desktop and it works extremely well - video, audio, whatever. I haven't tried the phone yet... but I'd check your network.
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Wired I don't have as much of a problem but wireless I do. Then again there are many factors but all network related. Chromecast in relation to the router, wireless devices currently using the bandwidth on the router etc...
Since most people are not hardwired to their network I think its a valid post to talk about wireless tab casting especially since you will be casting with your phone wirelessly.

I'll try this on my moto x today. I'm casting to Chromecast from my nexus 7 and it works good. Not a lot of latency , buffering or anything. Quick and all, so I'll compare it with this hack on the moto x..

http://forum.xda-developers.com/har...experimental-enable-mirroring-device-t2812193
This works on my Moto X pretty well. Latency is higher than my girlfriends S4, but it still works.

Shanesgc said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/har...experimental-enable-mirroring-device-t2812193
This works on my Moto X pretty well. Latency is higher than my girlfriends S4, but it still works.
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This version is great for people who rooted with pie root on version 4.4.2 since you can't modify your build.prop.

when I tried to use with my XT1058 with CM11, google play caught ... does anyone know how to solve?
I enabled the first and third option

cast screen workin in moto x2013 trick
first open hot spot from any other android mobile . after that connect moto x wifi with that hotspot mobile after that you will easily uese miracast in moto x 2013... screen mirroring
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You don't need to do this anymore. The Chromecast app now supports mirroring from any device via a button in the app.