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Phew, My Shift is Back to Life: Thank God !

After frying my Shift motherboard sometimes last year I had given up any hope of ever getting it to work again. ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=701950 ). I tried HTC support to have the motherboard repaired or even to be supplied with a new motherboard without any success. Tried any relevant outlet I could think of that could source a motherboard but still nothing came of it.
I tried searching for anyone selling a Shift at the cheap but the few ebay listings I came across showed that the device cost is still very high. I started a link here hoping somebody with a dead Shift could sell it to me for spares but nothing came of it. To make matters worse the thread was moved to Xda Marketplace and it was lost and burried in the market. ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=937322&highlight=shift+motherboard )
But as fate would have it the other day I searched the Marketplace and came across a guy who was selling 2 dead Shifts and high capacity Shift accesories and spares including 2 Gb Ram stick, SSD and higher capacity batteries. But I was a bit late to the party! The sale had been on for almost 2 months and most of the valuable items had already been sold. But I was still in luck as the dead Shifts were still available. I bought one of them as the other was a complete shell even though the motherboards had problem as the power switches had detached and gotten lost for the both of them.
Fortunately an electrical engineer friend of mine was able to remove the power switch from my dead Shift and solder it to the purchased motherboard. It was a delicate procedure but I can confirm that all went well and my Shift is now back to life. Infact even with the replacement motherboard my Shift booted with all the data and settings exactly the way it was before roasting the motherboard.
Just thought of sharing my experience with fellow proud Shift owners here.
I would also wish to thank the seller (TopRowGuy) for a very swift and smooth transaction. Thumbs up buddy. ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=961663&highlight=shift+clio )
Regards, Ed

Hi Ed, congratulations for resurrecting your Shift and thank you for posting here the info.
While having the spare Shift and old motherboard at the hand, would you please be so kind to have a look at the circuitry of the socket for external headphones&microphone. My interest is related to the non-working condition of the Shift phone on external headphones&microphone with the custom ROMs.
Therefore could you please check if the socket is simply switching mechanically between internal speakers and external headphones, respectively internal microphone and external microphone (just like in any other audio-tape device) or other circuitry is also involved invalidating the phone function when external devices connected. What else gets disconnected when plugging-in that is influencing the phone? Can the microphone switch be overridden to use only the internal one permanently and let only the headphones be switched?
I'm pretty sure that there are many members here interested in your answers to the above questions. So thank you for contributing to this community!

axelTP2 said:
Hi Ed, congratulations for resurrecting your Shift and thank you for posting here the info.
While having the spare Shift and old motherboard at the hand, would you please be so kind to have a look at the circuitry of the socket for external headphones&microphone. My interest is related to the non-working condition of the Shift phone on external headphones&microphone with the custom ROMs.
Therefore could you please check if the socket is simply switching mechanically between internal speakers and external headphones, respectively internal microphone and external microphone (just like in any other audio-tape device) or other circuitry is also involved invalidating the phone function when external devices connected. What else gets disconnected when plugging-in that is influencing the phone? Can the microphone switch be overridden to use only the internal one permanently and let only the headphones be switched?
I'm pretty sure that there are many members here interested in your answers to the above questions. So thank you for contributing to this community!
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Thank you Axel.
Ok I will check the switching mechanism for the mic+headphones for the Shift and report back. If relevant I will also take close-up photos with both the the jack plugged in and plugged out. Since I have the extra motherboards boards (both winmo and Vista) I will try severall things. But if i am not wrong the headphone jack is actually attached to the windows mobile motherboard and not the windows vista motherboard....
I will do the necessary and report back. Of course I am also very much interested in finding a solution for the century old problem of non-working external mic phone side..... I will also snoop around the Memory Card Reader and see what gives ......

Thanks Ed!
My idea is that we all might get lucky if the phone would work on external headphones (i.e. have some privacy), but with the internal microphone (you have to speak-up loud anyway).
I expect that, just like in any classical audio set, the switching circuitry on the audio out side gets the signal out of an audio stereo IC, which is led further to the ext phones socket and involves nothing more than the connection wires, socket, loudspeakers and earphones. If so, that means that we are OK on the earphones side. Of course this is an assumption and means that there are no active speakers or anything of the kind linking the audio outputy to any input of the mciroprocessor.
I also looked at 4 contacts 3.15mm coax plug of the HTC earphones and microphone and the contacts for the limitation comes from the microphone circuitry, this can be arranged by disconnecting the internal microphone from the ext socket and leaving it connected all the time.
My guess is that the internal microphone is hardwired directly to the socket and is not going trough the motherboard PCB (printed circuit board), in which case can be desoldered from the socket and resoldered to the audio in signal path (also coming from the socket). With this mod inserting the plug will have no influence any more on the microphone path.
In reality things can be more complicated since the same ext socket is serving both WinMob side and Vista side. I wonder if there is a single audio out IC or just the two processors deliver in paralel to the same load (speakers).
Looking forward to your findings.

Axel,
I had a long and hard look at the mic and audio jack/port and I am afraid there is nothing much to gain from a physical examinations of those items. To start with the audio port is covered with a black plastic on the outside so you cant really see what is going on inside when you insert the jack.
The audio port is connected to the phone mobo and not the Vista mobo. The phone motherboard is not spoilt and hence I would not want to strip things from it as it can come in handy at a future date. The internal mic is also attached to the phone motherboard through a printed cable. Problem is without first booting the Vista Bios the phone side does also not boot. I am trying to see if there is a way I might get the phone side to boot. If I can succeed that way I would then disconnect the mic from the phone motherboard and see whether the wired mic can become active as you have suggested.
But all this I am only doing with the dead Shift because of course I cant touch the recently resurrected Shift. I wonder if there is absolutely any way of being able to boot the winmo side without first pressing the power button (attached to Vista mobo) which is missing from the motherboard that I am playing with??? If that was to be possible I could try various things with the mobile powered on and probably even be able to use the mobile side ad forget about Vista on the cannibalized Shift?
Here are some photos of the audio jack port and the mic connection area. Sorry the images are not great as i took them at night and in low light environment.... These are self-explanatory but the long and short of it as per your inquiry is that it is possible to disconnect the internal mic from the motherboard. As to how the wired mic would behave when the internal mic is disconnected is subject to real tests with a working Shift. As to whether you can solder these around I will leave that to those of us who are more technically oriented.......

PlayStation said:
After frying my Shift motherboard sometimes last year I had given up any hope of ever getting it to work again. ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=701950 ). I tried HTC support to have the motherboard repaired or even to be supplied with a new motherboard without any success. Tried any relevant outlet I could think of that could source a motherboard but still nothing came of it.
I tried searching for anyone selling a Shift at the cheap but the few ebay listings I came across showed that the device cost is still very high. I started a link here hoping somebody with a dead Shift could sell it to me for spares but nothing came of it. To make matters worse the thread was moved to Xda Marketplace and it was lost and burried in the market. ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=937322&highlight=shift+motherboard )
But as fate would have it the other day I searched the Marketplace and came across a guy who was selling 2 dead Shifts and high capacity Shift accesories and spares including 2 Gb Ram stick, SSD and higher capacity batteries. But I was a bit late to the party! The sale had been on for almost 2 months and most of the valuable items had already been sold. But I was still in luck as the dead Shifts were still available. I bought one of them as the other was a complete shell even though the motherboards had problem as the power switches had detached and gotten lost for the both of them.
Fortunately an electrical engineer friend of mine was able to remove the power switch from my dead Shift and solder it to the purchased motherboard. It was a delicate procedure but I can confirm that all went well and my Shift is now back to life. Infact even with the replacement motherboard my Shift booted with all the data and settings exactly the way it was before roasting the motherboard.
Just thought of sharing my experience with fellow proud Shift owners here.
I would also wish to thank the seller (TopRowGuy) for a very swift and smooth transaction. Thumbs up buddy. ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=961663&highlight=shift+clio )
Regards, Ed
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Hi Ed
I'd read your post. Also, I have som problem about my Shift
the conditions are:
1. it can not be turn on even vista or snapvue
2. When I switch on the power button, only the green light was on at the bottom of LCD screen.
3. I can hear the fan turn on but nothing happened
4. When I use the charger, the battery can be charged and finished it.
Do you think that the mother board have something wrong?
The HTC care center want me to change the board but it cost a lots.
Regards,
Vincent

wangwun said:
Hi Ed
I'd read your post. Also, I have som problem about my Shift
the conditions are:
1. it can not be turn on even vista or snapvue
2. When I switch on the power button, only the green light was on at the bottom of LCD screen.
3. I can hear the fan turn on but nothing happened
4. When I use the charger, the battery can be charged and finished it.
Do you think that the mother board have something wrong?
The HTC care center want me to change the board but it cost a lots.
Regards,
Vincent
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If the green light is turning on I think yours is a software problem. What about the mobile side? Does it come on when you press the button for switching between the Snapvue and Vista? Try that with the green light on and then we can try troubleshooting from there.....
In the meantime try press FN+F10 immediately the green light comes on and see what happens.....

PlayStation said:
But all this I am only doing with the dead Shift because of course I cant touch the recently resurrected Shift. I wonder if there is absolutely any way of being able to boot the winmo side without first pressing the power button (attached to Vista mobo) which is missing from the motherboard that I am playing with??? If that was to be possible I could try various things with the mobile powered on and probably even be able to use the mobile side ad forget about Vista on the cannibalized Shift?
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Hi Ed, thank you very much for your endeavour. Of course I didn't expect to work in this experiment with the ressurected Shift, but only with the spare one.
What kind of a switch is the power switch, is it a single section switch or with multiple sections, is it a bistable or a tip-switch. I expect that it is a single section tip switch which is connecting 2 contacts on the pcb only for a short while while you press on it. If this is correct you may connect the 2 contacts with a jumper-wire just to start-up the Shift. It is true that the Vista part will start first, but I don't see a big draw back in that.
PlayStation said:
Here are some photos of the audio jack port and the mic connection area. Sorry the images are not great as i took them at night and in low light environment.... These are self-explanatory but the long and short of it as per your inquiry is that it is possible to disconnect the internal mic from the motherboard. As to how the wired mic would behave when the internal mic is disconnected is subject to real tests with a working Shift. As to whether you can solder these around I will leave that to those of us who are more technically oriented.......
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Thanks again for the pictures, maybe some other time you'll have the opportunity to come up with more clear ones.
To get some privacy while using the phone my intention was to switch only the speakers on the headphones, but still using the internal microphone of the Shift. That would require some small modifications to the jack-port.
I didn't get it exactly how many motherboards are there inside the Shift? Are there in 3 pcs, i.e. Vista mb, Winmo mb and phone mb, is that right?

Hi Axel,
The Shift has 2 motherboards - Mobile and Windows Vista. But both are connected where the 2 boards get into contact with each other through connectors on each side. There are no cables/wires involved but just direct connectors between the 2 motherboards where they come into contact with each other.
Apparently most of the connections take place inside the printed circuit boards so you cant tell which connection goes where. But of interest is that both the mic and the audio jack are all connected to the phone motherboard yet they dont work in the mobile side. So either these have been physically disconnected within the circuit board or it could be a software issue. Remember how we could not use GPS or phone functions until the great rom breakthrough by the likes of Thaihugo and Cmonex....? I still believe that the issue of wired mic not being active is a software issue.
But the SD Card is a different story as this is attached to the Vista motherboard. It is very likely that there is no physical connection between the Sd card and the mobile motherboard. Well I might be entirely wrong here as come to think of it there is a solution about accessing SD card from the windows side but Vista has to be on...... Will look for that thread and read some more and see how the connection is established.
By the way I did home-made switch for the dead shift's motherboard. The Shift was able to power up and boot but it appears that the Lcd cable is dead (or perhaps the lcd screen itself is dead but most likely the problem is with the cable). I was able to connect the Shift to the Tv through a Vga cable. But I could not do much with it as the Vista software appears to be corrupt. Further the HDD connection cable too is not in very good shape. I hope to get the Hdd cable to be able to do more tests on this Shift using the Tv as the external monitor.
This other Shift will be the official guinea pig and I am willing to make various tests with it as soon as I get a working Hdd cable and re-install windows. However there is a big limitation to this too because apparently the windows mobile side does not show in the external monitor. In other words even if you switch to the mobile side using the Shift button the external screen does not change and is only active for Vista......
But I can tell the snapvue side is active as I was able to call the sim card number inside the Shift I was using for tests.... My intention is simply to use this Shift with my Tv for internet connection and as a basic pc in the living room. I confirmed that the internet connection to the Vista side is active even without having any access to the windows mobile screen. I made these tests with the Hdd cable from my good Shift for a few minutes and thus did not make extensive tests.
So guys I will get back to you with more tests once I get a working Hdd cable which I may have to import from China (parts4repair.com). I might then end up with 1 Shift and half a Shift......

wangwun said:
Hi Ed
I'd read your post. Also, I have som problem about my Shift
the conditions are:
1. it can not be turn on even vista or snapvue
2. When I switch on the power button, only the green light was on at the bottom of LCD screen.
3. I can hear the fan turn on but nothing happened
4. When I use the charger, the battery can be charged and finished it.
Do you think that the mother board have something wrong?
The HTC care center want me to change the board but it cost a lots.
Regards,
Vincent
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After playing with my other Shift as described above I believe your problem is not the motherboard since the power light is coming on and the fan is coming on when you power your device. So chances are that your Lcd screen is not getting any signal from your Shift. Yours could be a simple problem with a disconnected Lcd flex cable or problems with the lcd screen or damaged lcd flex cable. Easiest test for you is to get Vga cable and test your Shift using an external computer monitor or tv that supports Vga in cable..... Hope this helps.

Thanks PlayStation, great post, thank you for your endeavour!!! Looking forward for further details.

USB contact weakness?

My Sony Ericsson Xperia X10 is 2 years old. The last few months, I have had problems charging the phone and connecting it to the computer.
In order to charge, I have to "wiggle" the cable into the right position. When I try connecting to the computer via cable, the phone appears to disconnect again within few seconds, and then reconnect - I am returned to the screen that shows the green android figure and that asks if I want to connect to the computer.
I have tried with a new USB cable. Charging gets easier (not so much "wiggling" required), but the problem with connecting to the computer is the same.
Does anyone know what the problem might be? Is this a hardware weakness, so that Sony should repair it? Or should I just buy a new phone?

Hardware Weakness

Should probably rephrase... Is this a KNOWN hardware weakness with this type of phone, so that it should be covered by the reclamation rights?
If not, the store will probably claim that this is my fault, or a device only expected to last 2 years, so that I have to buy a new phone.

Had a similar problem, solution?? Well is easy, if look (in your phone) into thd little microusb hole, youll find a little object like a sheet. Just move it. Up or down with a little screwdriver. Try the usb if not working move it upside down. JUST DO IT WITH CAUTION THAT PIECE IS TOO WEAK AND IS DANGEROUS. IT WORKED FOR ME BUT I CANNOT WARRANTY ITLL WORK FOR YOU
Sent from my X10i using xda app-developers app

I've got the same problem.. but there is no sw solution (of course..), so you have to fix it manualy.. I wanted to do it myself, but there are too small micro ****s, so I left that... I'll try it later..

I just had the same problem as yours and I asked for a technician to solder a new USB port for me. And he did it, I no longer have this problem. It is a very annoying problem, sometimes when you're transferring datas, the USB would disconnect with a just a slight bump.

I've got this problem on my x10 also, but beware - it may be something as simple as the USB cable is worn out. I thought my problem was with the phone, until I used a car charger with it and it charged perfectly - no wiggling of the cable required.
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Thanks for all the replies.
Unfortunately, it is easier to buy a new phone than to go through the 3-weeks process of having a service center determine if the problem can be solved and if it will cost me.
Fortunately, I'm able to use another phone to copy the data from my memory card onto my computer, before I switch to a new phone
To the last poster: As written, I tried with a new cable, without much luck.

[Q] my usb conection

hi
when i connect my phone with usb to pc it could charje but pc not recognize my device even in boot screen and its not change from serial yo usb
i do this with another cable and pc but it doesnt work
whats the problem?
tnx

could be dirt in the usb slot
could be a faulty pin in the usb slot
could be a failing usb slot (fairly common fault that the usb slot starts to fail , lots of threads reporting it - pretty difficult to repair unless you're a dab hand with a soldering iron)
1st - test on another pc, just to check its not some weird driver issue
2nd - have a really really good look in the slot, dirt gets caked into the bottom, , personally ive cleaned mine with a paper clip in the past (gets pretty grotty in my usb slot, , i run a lawnmower as one of my jobs, , get pockets filled with grass and i dont use a phone cover), but they're sharp and metal so i cant strictly recommend it, a magnifying glass and bright light will help inspect it.
3rd - gently try a little upwards and downwards pressure, if the pc suddenly recognises it but then drops it again when you wiggle, its hardware.

samsamuel said:
could be dirt in the usb slot
could be a faulty pin in the usb slot
could be a failing usb slot (fairly common fault that the usb slot starts to fail , lots of threads reporting it - pretty difficult to repair unless you're a dab hand with a soldering iron)
1st - test on another pc, just to check its not some weird driver issue
2nd - have a really really good look in the slot, dirt gets caked into the bottom, , personally ive cleaned mine with a paper clip in the past (gets pretty grotty in my usb slot, , i run a lawnmower as one of my jobs, , get pockets filled with grass and i dont use a phone cover), but they're sharp and metal so i cant strictly recommend it, a magnifying glass and bright light will help inspect it.
3rd - gently try a little upwards and downwards pressure, if the pc suddenly recognises it but then drops it again when you wiggle, its hardware.
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i do all of these but it doesnt work
you know when i come to the bootloader and the connect the weird serial not changed to usb
but when in the first i connect the weird and then go to boot loader theres nothing in the white colour and when i diconnect the weird th serial is shown!

N7 screen issue + not recognized by PC

So I have an issue with a 2012 N7, warranty is long gone. I've tried all suggestions from billykxda's thread, but no luck thus far. I've also tried Google's official page on the topic as well.
I've left the device charging for many consecutive hours, both via AC power and USB, and I suspect my issue resides with the LCD screen. Also tried a hard battery pull. It's also important to note that I haven't undertaken any mods on the device at all, i.e. the bootloader is still locked and USB debugging is not enabled yet.
When I plug the device into my PC the Win7 driver notification bubble pops up, usually reporting either an Unknown Device or an "APX drivers not installed" message. I'm unable to get it to boot into Fastboot, Recovery, or Android OS. Plugging/unplugging the device via USB yields these driver messages over and over again, along with the Win7 sound notification, so the device isn't totally dead, but no amount of button combinations or 30-60+ second button holds are getting any response.
Has anyone else experienced these issues before? Do you think my device is totally dead?

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Has anyone else experienced these issues before?
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Yes; I am also experiencing similar issues. Unfortunately, I have not reached a solution. I just replaced a broken screen for a friend. Once I got the screen in, I tried turning it on but didn't see anything happen. I began to research and thought I had the dead battery issue that most people get when leaving it unplugged for an extended period of time. I plugged it in using the wall adapter for a few hours, used the power+volume buttons and still didn't get any response. Finally, I decided to charge it with my PC. The PC recognized something was plugged in, installed drivers, and now I have a Nexus 7 in my connected devices list. While connected to my PC, I hold power+volume down and hear the USB disconnect, reconnect, and have an unrecognizable device attached. This leads me to believe that the Nexus 7 is working properly and the screen is not working. I have taken the entire device apart to re-seat all connections 3 different times and still cannot get it to work. I hope someone can shed some light on our issues!
Edit: I forgot to mention, I also tested the battery with a digital multimeter. It reads approximately 3.79 volts DC. I thought it may be important to state this in case the issue is battery related. I'm not certain what the correct value should be for it to work properly.

I am currently trying to diagnose this problem. Yesterday, I hopped on Craigslist and bought a working Nexus 7 for 50$. I am currently taking it apart to rob parts from it and figure out where the problem is. So far I have tested the battery. The battery reads approximately 3.78 volts DC so I can probably rule this out as my problem.
Also, I noticed something strange yesterday. I took the broken Nexus with me when I went to meet up with the man selling the used/working Nexus. While I was outside in very bright sunlight, I pushed the power button on the broken Nexus. I noticed that I could actually see the screen doing something. It was all fuzzy and had lines running every where, but you could in fact see it doing something. I think the replacement screen I received is bad, but I won't know until I start swapping parts.
AvidPhisherman, for now maybe try taking your Nexus out in very bright sunlight and see if you can see the screen do anything when you press the power button. Also, I'm not trying to hijack the thread. It seems that we have very similar issues. I hope to find something that fixes both of our problems.

Success.... kinda. I tried combining the broken Nexus 7 motherboard with the working Nexus 7 screen but it wouldn't fit since one is the 3G model, and the other is the Wifi only model. Next, I put everything back together on the broken N7, but this time I used the LCD ribbon cable from the good N7. Success!!! It powered up, and I can see the screen. My problem now, is that the screen is mostly unresponsive and acts like you are touching it in random spots, when you're not touching it at all. I'm taking it apart to re-seat the connections... again.

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Success.... kinda. I tried combining the broken Nexus 7 motherboard with the working Nexus 7 screen but it wouldn't fit since one is the 3G model, and the other is the Wifi only model. Next, I put everything back together on the broken N7, but this time I used the LCD ribbon cable from the good N7. Success!!! It powered up, and I can see the screen. My problem now, is that the screen is mostly unresponsive and acts like you are touching it in random spots, when you're not touching it at all. I'm taking it apart to re-seat the connections... again.
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Hey redfox thanks for taking in interest in this! You're not hijacking the thread, your posts are very helpful. Good to know I'm not the only one experiencing these issues.
I'm just a hobbyist with an interest in fixing things, although I don't have much experience with DIY fixing. I didn't have a chance to try turning the screen on under direct sunlight, but yesterday I took both my non-working Nexus 7s (the first one I mentioned in my OP, the second one just has a bad/hollowed out USB port) in to a repair shop for a free diagnosis. I'm actually a business user, my company owns the tablets but I'm responsible for maintenance/tech troubleshooting.
Please keep me posted with updates as to how your progress is going. I'll post again once I get a report from the repair shop re: my issues.

Hi,
I have been having the same problem,
I bought my wife a used Nexus 7 and it worked just fine for almost a year then all of the sudden the screen would not function
there would be lines going through it but it remain dark.
thank you for researching the matter i will try to buy the part online and see if i can get it to work now!
if i understand it correctly there is no need for a new mother board but just a new LCD ribbon cable?

godnessy said:
Hi,
I have been having the same problem,
I bought my wife a used Nexus 7 and it worked just fine for almost a year then all of the sudden the screen would not function
there would be lines going through it but it remain dark.
thank you for researching the matter i will try to buy the part online and see if i can get it to work now!
if i understand it correctly there is no need for a new mother board but just a new LCD ribbon cable?
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I cannot guarantee that it will fix your screen, but it is possible. When I had this one out in the sun, it did the same thing. The screen was super dark, and I could see crazy lines. Hopefully a new ribbon/cable will fix your problem. They are only a few dollars on Amazon.com

godnessy said:
Hi,
I have been having the same problem,
I bought my wife a used Nexus 7 and it worked just fine for almost a year then all of the sudden the screen would not function
there would be lines going through it but it remain dark.
thank you for researching the matter i will try to buy the part online and see if i can get it to work now!
if i understand it correctly there is no need for a new mother board but just a new LCD ribbon cable?
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__redfox__ said:
I cannot guarantee that it will fix your screen, but it is possible. When I had this one out in the sun, it did the same thing. The screen was super dark, and I could see crazy lines. Hopefully a new ribbon/cable will fix your problem. They are only a few dollars on Amazon.com
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Hello fellow users! Quick update, I finally heard back from the repair shop.
Bad news - they tried swapping out the screen, then the battery, USB charging port, display cables, etc. etc. and nothing worked. Their diagnosis is that the tablet has a fried motherboard, and they're unable to repair and/or replace it
Good news - it cost me nothing to receive this diagnosis
Hopefully the outlook is not so grim for your respective N7s. Just wanted to post an update as to what I learned from this whole experience.

Hi guys, Reporting in.
Toke a while but i got the part AND found the stupid device!
After ALOT of fiddling, taking apart and putting back again i found out that the problem was the battery!
it looks like it was on its last leg and that caused all the strange screen stuff.
I dont have another battery to replace it so instead i hooked it up straight to a USB cable and into the socket and it works just fine
thanks for the tips and hopefully this helps someone else!

[Q] Why is their no guide for my Brick? HELP!

I practically can't get my phone to detect theirs a computer connected to it at all. I've tried cleaning the usb port a few times and my pc detected it but it only read as "Unknown Device" and nothing from their and after awhile it stops doing that little detection. SO what can i do other than replace the usb/headphone jack piece? is their a way to enter fastboot and do that unbrick instead?

The replacement USB is only around $14, and it's an easy fix, take the back off, take off the black plastic cover on the top, has about 9 screws I believe? The bottom has to be removed as well, that has 6 screws, once you take those off, you unhook the LCD and the motherboard from the old USB/Power/Volume dongle, and replace it.
That being said, it's still time consuming, and tedious, but it is basically easy.
I would suggest to try another cable, and to try another PC as well, there was a time where my motherboard on my PC wouldn't detect my LG phones, but my wifes would, it's resolved now, but needless to say it was a pain .

Well, at least that makes sense now, i will try when i get the money and i've tried connected different cables and pcs and its the same result. not even linux will detect anything. But thank you for the help so far