Since the use of external SD can be somewhat limited on this device, I wanted to be sure and ask here first. How does Navigon work on Note 2? It really lowers my "need" for Navigon if it can't use the external SD for map storage.
BTW, from what I read so far this is a Jelly Bean limitation? That would mean that the apps/games need to become smarter and detect external SD in different ways?
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Hi,
I was reading the androidpolice article on rooting here, and I'm confused on the references to internal memory vs. rooting.
Move installed applications to SD card
Moving and storing apps on internal memory can significantly slow your device down. If you root, you can avoid that completely.
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I vaguely remember reading that Android phones have "internal" memory (built-in) and SD memory (via micro-SD slot). But our tablets, at least the Transformer, doesn't have "internal" memory...the 16GB or 32GB built in memory shows up as SD_Card, while the micro SD card shows up a "removable".
Is that right?
So the quoted text from AndroidPolice is no longer relevant for our tablets, since the 16GB of built-in Transformer memory is really just as fast as most micro-SD cards you might put in the slot? I'm assuming that the "internal" memory on android phones are slower than the microSD card slot access?
Thanks!
This is referring to a physical SD card and has more of a place in previous versions of android since, on those, it was built around internal memory and SD supplement being standard.
In Honeycomb the SD CARD is just the primary extended memory of the tablet. You cant really move apps to SD (maybe rooted) on Honeycomb because its assumed that you have sufficient internal memory.
The physical SD cards are handled differently in Honeycomb. Its "removable" to differentiate it from the extended memory internal to the tablet. I can see where its confusing since we basically have 16gb and 13gb are allocated as as this "SD card." I would assume this will all be cleared up in Ice Cream Sandwich. The labeling is just a holdover from previous versions of android, on which honeycomb is based.
After upgrading to a 16gb external I was unhappy to find that most games and applications won't install on it, and yes I tried using apps2sd, to find after a few reboots the icons were dim (not valid) and the game data somehow disappeared. A 500mb game now turned into 32kb when uninstalling. This has happened to not only one game but many. Including Asphalt 6 and Nova. So what options do we have when installing large size games such as modern combat? Use the inbuilt 16gb? Mines already full.
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Try a root app called force2sd found on the android market. Works on ALL apps
Is the sd card even legit? Also check for errors and completely reformat it.
TheGhost1233 said:
Is the sd card even legit? Also check for errors and completely reformat it.
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Yes, bought from Play.com .. It's a Lexar 16gb class 4.
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Yes, bought from Play.com .. It's a Lexar 16gb class 4.
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Maybe something is wrong with your SD card. Mine Lexar 32GB Class 10 works fine.
Well, it could be worse...
In my case i had an old 2 Gb Samsung class 2 in my SGS2, and all apps installed on the INTERNAL SD (no room on the external, as i had filled it up with mp3's).
Then i bought a new Kingston 16 Gb class 4, and changed the 2 cards, and expected no problems - with the thought on that no apps were installed on the external SD - but... half of my apps were greyed out, and didn't work afterwards. To make things worse, i tryed to install the apps again form the market, only to find that it didn't repair the old apps, but installed new apps besides the broken apps. And i had difficulties deleting the old apps.
I changed the card some times on my old HTC, with no problems - but on this phone i will never do it again - i had a LOT of apps on my phone, and some of them bought outside the market, so i had to pay for some new downloads on that account.
Thank god that all my Gameloft games were not destroyed - even that they were installed in the internal SD.
Maybe i was just lucky on my old HTC, but this made me somewhat unsecure on the SGS2, and as written above - i will NOT change the card again.
Maybe someone can explain how the internal and the external SD-memory works together, in conjunction to my and fluidz problems with the external SD-card. It somehow seems that the external SD is connected with the internal SD, so that some apps depends on both to be installed - even if the apps is not moved to the external SD... ????
On my old Aspire one netbook, an external SD-card would be added to the internal SD-card that worked as an harddisk. So that the internal AND external SD worked as one harddisk all together. That gave the result, that if you unmounted the SD-card, the netbook was somewhat missing files, that was moved back and forth on the external SD (eg. it would mess it up, if you changed something or installed new programs, AND unmount the external SD afterwards). Is it the same on the SGS2????
Hi,
I am new to Android as I just switched from iOS. Does getting an android phone with higher internal memory make the phone perform faster since the phone get slow when you install too many apps in the phone's internal memory? Would you guys recommend me to save everything in micro sd card? Is there a setting where I can set to directly install apps into micro sd card rather than internal memory? Please advise thanks so much =).
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Hi,
I am new to Android as I just switched from iOS. Does getting an android phone with higher internal memory make the phone perform faster since the phone get slow when you install too many apps in the phone's internal memory? Would you guys recommend me to save everything in micro sd card? Is there a setting where I can set to directly install apps into micro sd card rather than internal memory? Please advise thanks so much =).
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This is not a windows pc.. So your phone will not slow down.. However you may see battery drains.. You can use directory bind for installing application data on the external sdcard card..
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I'm just trying to get a feel for how Samsung treats storage on their devices.
Do they consider the internal storage as both internal and SD Card storage on the device? So that \sdcard\ points to internal storage? Which would treat any inserted MicroSD like secondary storage that some programs might not use?
Or do they consider internal storage as only internal and \sdcard\ would only point to an inserted MicroSD?
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They have internal SD (built in storage) and external SD.
External SD is not touched unless you indicate for it to be used specifically.
I like that Samsung continues to offer devices with a removable battery and MicroSD. This is a major factor for me.
I just wish the MicroSD could somehow be integrated with their internal storage. Since many apps may not be able to see the MicroSD. The apps would consider the internal storage to be SD space.
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I like that Samsung continues to offer devices with a removable battery and MicroSD. This is a major factor for me.
I just wish the MicroSD could somehow be integrated with their internal storage. Since many apps may not be able to see the MicroSD. The apps would consider the internal storage to be SD space.
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thats not a good idea, what if you had to remove the external sd card?
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thats not a good idea, what if you had to remove the external sd card?
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I'm using Data2SD with my Asus Transformer Infinity right now to have a 64GB data space (via SD card) and the internal 32GB as extra storage. I have not had to remove the card yet . And really even Data2Sd won't let me use the internal space on the device installing programs, just extra storage. But still its a good step.
Removing the card is not a concern, since I basically don't. If the card goes bad, rebuild things with a new card.
It would be great if the SGS4 gets a MOD like Data2SD. Then anyone who buys a 16GB version could get a 64GB MicroSD and turn it into a 64GB SGS4 . Same way we've turned our 32GB Asus Infinities into 64GB models, and our storage is even faster than the stock Asus internal storage :laugh: .
Oh, it's a good idea, it's soooo good .
I have a couple questions too if someone can please help:
1) What happens when you mount the device via USB. Can you mount either storage (internal or external sd)?
2) Can you easily place game files like GTA Vice City, music files, or Titanium/nandroid backups on the external?
Thanks!
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I have a couple questions too if someone can please help:
1) What happens when you mount the device via USB. Can you mount either storage (internal or external sd)?
2) Can you easily place game files like GTA Vice City, music files, or Titanium/nandroid backups on the external?
Thanks!
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1) they show up as separate drives
2) yes to. Everything except game files as the game would think you don't have the files and try to redownload them
Hey guys,
I know this topic has been discussed to death here. But the only methods I found were either complicated or odd. I was wondering how I could expand internal storage which is currently 500gb on my Pro to like 4tb. Replacing internal HDD requires tons of Dev work which I know nothing about and connecting a USB external storage to use as internal is kinda weird as there is risk of it getting unplugged and device crashing... Are those the only ways to do it or is there an updated way that I didn't see ?
Well you could add an sd card to it. The pro version has a reader.
The only other way is aside from the ones you mention is setting up a NAS but that would be an external connection....
SD Card is much slower. Plus I need 4tb and am sure that a card of that size doesn't exist yet. As for why, well I got 2.5tb of game ROMs for various emulators that I want to move over... So yeah... Adding external is my only option for now... I guess...