Does the issue with Samsung and the documentation that is needed by devs to continue development on phones with these chips affect the Note II?
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yes, why wouldn't it?
It only effects development of code built from source, modifying stock based roms is still possible.
It also doesn't make it impossible to work from source, just difficult.
Yes. The documentation applies to the note ii exynos chip set as well. Basically all exynos chips.
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However here's a nice article that Samsung has at least acknowledged it.
http://www.androidauthority.com/sam...87/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
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All right thats what i was wondering, just wanted to know from some folks that know more than me on these things.....i hate to see the devs drop the note 2 if its difficult and move on to other phones....i may change my mind on buying one in a few weeks when it hits the US because of this thats why i asked but then again Samsung will probably give what the development world is asking for.
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So as my old thread kinda pointed out before, the Samsung slider Verizon was getting was awfully similar to our Epics in appearance. And guess what? it is real and it's being released soon. So what I found to be interesting about it is that it runs on the exact same hardware as the Epic! Well, that is, excluding the processor -__- while we have a single core 1ghz processor, the Verizon slider will sport a dualcore 1.2ghz processor. The real reason behind this post is this: this to me sounds like the closest sibling our Epic has in the Galaxy S family thus far, so with the processors being the only real difference, will we be able to port anything from it over to the Epic and/or will their source help us in any way to further advance development on our Epics? Hmmm...
http://www.mydaily-gadget.com/news/...g-stratosphere-fcc-release-date-verizon-specs
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Well, that one would hurt. So, they have a stable, problem free Cingerbread on that phone already? EDIT..it doesn't say that's going to be dual core for certain. They are comparing the stats of the Galaxy S2
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Well, that one would hurt. So, they have a stable, problem free Cingerbread on that phone already? EDIT..it doesn't say that's going to be dual core for certain. They are comparing the stats of the Galaxy S2
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So there still might be some hope for us afterall. The mandatory 18 month support deal google is enforcing now means that this Verizon slider will hopefully get up to ICS, and if we can hopefully find something useful from it ( like port some of its ROMs, kernels, use some of its source) then we might have a shot at extending the Epics "life" right? I'm being hopeful because as bad as I want to jump ship to a new device, I'm not ready to give up my physical keyboard just yet.
EDIT: ok, just reread it JC and your right. As of now, all the hardware specs coincide with our Epics, the processor it will be porting is yet to be announced. It does say it'll be a "budget phone" in another article I read, so considering high end devices at the moment are sporting dual core processor 1.2ghz and up, I'm willing to be it will also be a 1ghz single core like ours
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Well, that one would hurt. So, they have a stable, problem free Cingerbread on that phone already? EDIT..it doesn't say that's going to be dual core for certain. They are comparing the stats of the Galaxy S2
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Unfortunately I wouldn't doubt it. The Galaxy S line(Not 2) was handled horribly. We should have been like Samsungs personal nexus line with support and updates, but not a single phone got that. Which isn't bad in all truth. But it could have went better with ICS coming soon.
Also aren't we still within 18 months? It's been a year but not too much over it.
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Yeah especially if we were basically Samsung's testers for Gingerbread on another similar device. I don't know enough about development to know if ROMs could be easily ported from it
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Everything I saw about the stratosphere showed it to be exactly like the epic, just for VZW. Been waiting for it as my girlfriend has VZW and her renewal is this month. And the leaked pics I've seen of it show 2.3.4, so maybe if we're lucky we'll see the source for that and can put something together from it if we don't see official GB released by then..
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Unfortunately I wouldn't doubt it. The Galaxy S line(Not 2) was handled horribly. We should have been like Samsungs personal nexus line with support and updates, but not a single phone got that. Which isn't bad in all truth. But it could have went better with ICS coming soon.
Also aren't we still within 18 months? It's been a year but not too much over it.
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The 18 month support policy wasn't being enforced until just recently so our Epic's, I'm guessing, won't get further than GB (officially speaking of course) Korey also stated that GB would be the final "dying breath" of the Epic support wise. So this could be our final chance at a big helping hand in development...
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Highly doubt this will be relevant at all. Thinking there will be similarities in driver code is akin to thinking there was going to be similarities in our epics and other galaxy s's. And we all know how well that turned out.
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Highly doubt this will be relevant at all. Thinking there will be similarities in driver code is akin to thinking there was going to be similarities in our epics and other galaxy s's. And we all know how well that turned out.
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Well what this handset has that the rest of the other handsets dnt is the hardware keyboard which I heard was a problem devs had a rough time with considering the other galaxy s counter parts had no hardware keyboard. Also, the rest of the hardware matches perfectly, all we need is the processor to be announced. I'm thinking this handset will help us out a bit somehow, but then again, I'm no dev, so take my "hopefulness" with a grain of salt
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QUOTE=squshy 7;17522647]Highly doubt this will be relevant at all. Thinking there will be similarities in driver code is akin to thinking there was going to be similarities in our epics and other galaxy s's. And we all know how well that turned out.
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Try not to get too excited, the article that the op posted mentioned that that this phone may be Verizons gsII contender. The only thing that may be similar is the cameras. Then again that's what we said about the nexus s...
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QUOTE=squshy 7;17522647]Highly doubt this will be relevant at all. Thinking there will be similarities in driver code is akin to thinking there was going to be similarities in our epics and other galaxy s's. And we all know how well that turned out.
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Try not to get too excited, the article that the op posted mentioned that that this phone may be Verizons gsII contender. The only thing that may be similar is the cameras. Then again that's what we said about the nexus s...
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Accidently thanked you...
The camera will be different(1.3megapixel ffc) we have a .3megapixel
The keyboard however will be the same, 4 android butttons 4 capacitive android buttons 4" screen, the 5megapixel cam the same.
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I think it will be similar. Verizon rehashed the Evo a little less than a year later. Verizon only has 1 dual core 4G phone. Finally, Verizon said they weren't getting a GSII variant and if this was dualcore, it would probably be considered a GSII variant just like the epic is.
Well they also have a better screen because they have a super amoled plus instead of a super amoled so they don't have to deal with weird subpixels.
Epic 4G, is that you?
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Well I guess best we can do at this point Is hope we can pull some dev off this device. But hey. hope is better then nothing.
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Well I guess best we can do at this point Is hope we can pull some dev off this device. But hey. hope is better then nothing.
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Yeah, that would work as well. In any case, even if their source or porting any of their stuff doesn't help us, their device community would still be of great value to us.
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As a fairly new owner of a galaxy s3 and I have never used an android before I have loved your phone from the beginning.
Then I thought what else can I do to it to make it even better.
Open android was drawn to me because it gives users of your devices the option to modify their device the way they want to.
This doesn't take away the fact that it was your company that built the phone or the software inside it just means that we can get more out of the phone than you intended.
Since having this phone I have told others about it and what it can do and have even got others to think about owning one too.
This is from word of mouth that your sales increase, the more options available to your phones the more your sales will increase.
Closing the door on that option will decrease sales, word of mouth will get smaller and people will go elsewhere to buy phones with more to offer.
Why not think of the people that build roms and mods and make kernels to modify your devices free developers and the people who modify their phones and tell others free advertising.
You can't go wrong.
If it's only money you are after then money you will receive.
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Sorry to tell you, I don't think Samsung will give a crap about this thread.
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I don't care just wanted to say it anyway
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OP... this is XDA-Developers not Samsung. There's a general chat for a reason- so we don't clutter the forums with useless threads.
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I don't care just wanted to say it anyway
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Then why post it, I didn't see anything specific or useful in your comment. If it's about exynos, a thread already exists. That's the only thing that's being demanded.
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Wow bro you clearly have no idea...
what do you think how many people actually root their Android phone? Id guess something like 5% and believe me samsung wants to keep this number as low as possible because if there are huge advantages in rooting more people would do it. if they unlocked everything and gave the community every possible driver you know what would happen?
The Galaxy S4 came out in March or so and nobody would buy it. maybe it has a 12mp camera more efficient processor but if it runs the exact same firmware as the s3, much less people would buy it. the changes would be too small. Hardware and Software are the only things that you buy from samsung. if they handed out the newest software for every phone they built, they would lose that factor for new phones they wanna sell.
Apple did the same thing with the 4S. do you think the i phone 4 cant run siri? oh but it can but the changes in the 4s were so small that they needed something new. since the hardware did change much they had to improve the software.
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Hi Guys,
So I've just put a deposit down on the S4 with Carphone Warehouse, as I've waited so long for something worthy of replacing my S2 I had to have one, but I've missed the S3 generation entirely, so I'm not sure what the story is with the Exynos processors...
Basically, I don't care about flashing custom ROMs on my phone at all, I went through all that with my old HTC HD2 just in an effort to make it usable, but thats not really necessary anymore. I would, however, like to root my S4. Is this something thats likely to be possible in the not too distant future, or will Samsungs reluctance to help Devs put an end to this as well as custom ROMs?
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Hi Guys,
So I've just put a deposit down on the S4 with Carphone Warehouse, as I've waited so long for something worthy of replacing my S2 I had to have one, but I've missed the S3 generation entirely, so I'm not sure what the story is with the Exynos processors...
Basically, I don't care about flashing custom ROMs on my phone at all, I went through all that with my old HTC HD2 just in an effort to make it usable, but thats not really necessary anymore. I would, however, like to root my S4. Is this something thats likely to be possible in the not too distant future, or will Samsungs reluctance to help Devs put an end to this as well as custom ROMs?
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Yes possible and easily unlike other manufacturers.
Just don't expect CM.
That is good to hear I'm not really bothered about CM anyways to be honest, I ran it for a while on the S2 but preferred the working touchwiz experience to the stock, not working CM at the time...
Its easy to root but development wont be so good if you are going to get exynos model. Qualcomm is another story,opposite..
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I think in the UK on 3g networks I'll be on the Exynos model anyways... but that's the one I want so I'm happy with that!
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Its easy to root but development wont be so good if you are going to get exynos model. Qualcomm is another story,opposite..
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LOOOOOOOL
I believe chainfire said he already has rooted an s4, by virtual means (remotely)
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Wow, he might be using an emulator to simulate the s4 rom. Maybe just a guess
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hi guys..
Whats the better device to buy
T-mobie/Note3/N900T ? AT&T/Note3/N900A ? Amazon-Unlocked/N9005
I will be primarily using the phone on t-mobile, but would like to use it in other countries like
India as well with local sim card/s
I can afford to buy the device... and am not on any plan at the moment,
also don't intend to marry a cell phone carrier...
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They are the same hardware obviously u want an unlocked one. Go for cheapest to u, u can unlock it for max $20 just search this thread prople did it many time. In general canadian note 3 thread has comments on where and how
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Also usa models may have boot loader locked I heard. So if u can spend on amaxon one its easiest case.
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odeccacccp said:
They are the same hardware obviously u want an unlocked one. Go for cheapest to u, u can unlock it for max $20 just search this thread prople did it many time. In general canadian note 3 thread has comments on where and how
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Also usa models may have boot loader locked I heard. So if u can spend on amaxon one its easiest case.
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I understand Samsung Devices are not generally Bootloader Locked... I am not sure of the carrier branded devices though (never used one) If the Nexus-5 ain't any good, I am going for the Note... The only thing I wish is that they eliminate the home button, I hate it... I just want a bezel less piece of glass..
hey guys so i just got a sm-n910t yesterday and i just installed kies and i am getting an upgrade to OK2? i think it might be MM it is a 1,883mb download. What do you y'all think?
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hey guys so i just got a sm-n910t yesterday and i just installed kies and i am getting an upgrade to OK2? i think it might be MM it is a 1,883mb download. What do you y'all think?
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no, thats dok2 5.1.1 lollipop
Lmao
Darkryulightning said:
hey guys so i just got a sm-n910t yesterday and i just installed kies and i am getting an upgrade to OK2? i think it might be MM it is a 1,883mb download. What do you y'all think?
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Silly rabbit, tricks are for kids.
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It is funny, but we all gotta start somewhere at one point.
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Don't upgrade if you don't have to.once you go to dok2 you can't downgrade
On the MM topic, sprint's variant just got the may security patch, and a Wi-Fi bug fix
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stkpxl said:
Must be nice. We don't even get the damn security patches.
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GS5 just got MM officially. Maybe we are close? Probably not. Ugh.
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It's a trade off.... Sprints network or T-Mobile's slow update cycle.. I'll stick with TM on this one.
Galaxy s5 just got 6.0 and it's older then the note 4.. Again note 4 get's the back seat to a older model phone....
Can someone give a possible explanation, why S5 got update earlier than Note 4!!! I just can't think of any possible scenario!!! This is disrespect!!!
Because it's a lighter OS than ours.
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Can someone give a possible explanation, why S5 got update earlier than Note 4!!! I just can't think of any possible scenario!!! This is disrespect!!!
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S5 dropped in 1st half of year and note 4 dropped in 2nd half of that year.
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Because it's a lighter OS than ours.
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Also a much more popular phone. The S line is their true baby. The notes are an offshoot.
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Also a much more popular phone. The S line is their true baby. The notes are an offshoot.
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True....but the note series changed the way every phone manufacturer approaches making phones. Note series ftw
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True....but the note series changed the way every phone manufacturer approaches making phones. Note series ftw
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But look at total sales, especially globally. The note is a footnote in the story of the s series. A fantastic device, yes, but not Sammys bread and butter.
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But look at total sales, especially globally. The note is a footnote in the story of the s series. A fantastic device, yes, but not Sammys bread and butter.
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I'm glad to see sales skyrocketing with the note 5 in the us (at least it seems like it - I know a lot more note owners than I did a year ago) but leaving Europe out and releasing a plus sized S line device means the Note is not a priority for them.
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Because it's a lighter OS than ours.
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OS are the same the only things that are not the same are the radios and the system structure.. other then that there the same... same lollipop 5.1 i own both note 4 and s5
The S pen is a lot heavier than you're giving credit for. They bake that into the OS. So it takes longer. Add into the fact that the Note line isn't their main flagship. Thus you wait longer.
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A lot of people brag up T-Mobile due to the bootloader, yet leave out the fact of no updates. I hope Google adds them to their shame list.
http://www.engadget.com/2016/05/25/google-may-shame-slow-android-vendors/
I am tempted to use a custom rom, but am afraid of losing all the camera features.
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Must be nice. We don't even get the damn security patches.
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GS5 just got MM officially. Maybe we are close? Probably not. Ugh.
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No updates? I think you mean later updates.
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All of you on a CM ROM, how much other Samsung stuff do you miss?