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Htc Evo With iOS4

Is it possible to put iOS4 on the evo and have a dualboot one for Android and the other for iOS4

No iOS is not open source

Thanks anyways

now why would you want to kill a perfectly good phone?

really.. spend the money and get an iPhone if that's what u want to do
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I wonder if the Evo would still be able to make calls if you put iOS4 on it

mebo73 said:
really.. spend the money and get an iPhone if that's what u want to do
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The iphone is one cheap silicone case away from being very very good hardware. Just buy an iphone (and a cheap case) if you want ios.

why would anyone in their right mind want to poison their evo with apple's software???

No is just good to have different things on a phone

What is it about iOS4 that you can't get on the EVO/Android? My brother has the iPhone4, & there is nothing he has that i couldn't find in the Marketplace.
If you're looking for something specific, i'm sure you can find an Android version of it.

Don't kill the OP
Come on guys, it's a legit question (even if it might seem pretty blasphemous to us). As for the original question, if you want to dual boot, there's potential to put any Open Source OS on just about any hardware. If you want to have a closed source OS (like iOS, WinMo, WebOS, Blackberry OS [oh dear God WHY?!], Mac OSX Leopard, etc...) on your hardware, you'll pretty much have that pre-installed on the device. That's why you can put Android onto the HTC HD2, but you can't put WinMo 6.5 on the EVO 4G.
Bottom line, if you want iOS4 + Android, you'll have to buy an iPhone if you even want a chance. I don't think they have it working yet, but I know they've ported Froyo to the older hardware, so it might just be a matter of time.

Forum reeks of fanboyism. Simple question required a simple answer. The evo is far from a perfect phone... If that was the case.. I wouldn't have to root it and play tricks on my battery just to make it last longer than 5 hours. Android wouldn't be where it is today if it wasn't how iOS changed the way we look at smart phones. And apps that aren't on the android? bejeweled 2, angry birds, words with friends, a half decent facebook app, espn score center is terrible on the droid as well... I could go on... Both phones have their flaws.but I can see why the interest in wanting a dual boot phone. more than likely not happening anytime soon if not at all.

nateroc said:
Forum reeks of fanboyism. Simple question required a simple answer. The evo is far from a perfect phone... If that was the case.. I wouldn't have to root it and play tricks on my battery just to make it last longer than 5 hours. Android wouldn't be where it is today if it wasn't how iOS changed the way we look at smart phones. And apps that aren't on the android? bejeweled 2, angry birds, words with friends, a half decent facebook app, espn score center is terrible on the droid as well... I could go on... Both phones have their flaws.but I can see why the interest in wanting a dual boot phone. more than likely not happening anytime soon if not at all.
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Exactly there is no good apps in the market place iPhone appstore has better plus it was just a freaking question not so you guys could bash on me wtf what kind of community is this ?? Have respect

Buy an ipod touch
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verse187 said:
Exactly there is no good apps in the market place iPhone appstore has better plus it was just a freaking question not so you guys could bash on me wtf what kind of community is this ?? Have respect
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right, out of the 85k apps in the market place, absolutely none of them are good for anybody whatsoever, which explains why no one downloads anything from the market anymore, and also explains why android is definitely not catching up to iOS.

verse187 said:
Is it possible to put iOS4 on the evo and have a dualboot one for Android and the other for iOS4
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verse187 said:
Exactly there is no good apps in the market place iPhone appstore has better plus it was just a freaking question not so you guys could bash on me wtf what kind of community is this ?? Have respect
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You know, you don't have to be an Apple fanboy (or girl) to want to see if this can be done. It's like trying to solve a puzzle. I really wouldn't want an iphone, but hacking iOS4 onto an Android phone would be fun. And, there are some apps for the iphone that don't exist in the Android Market.
BTW, I have a Dell Mini 9 that runs Snow Leopard just fine. Am I in love with Apple? Not really, though I have an iMac, as well as Windoze boxes and Linux, too. I'm posting from Linux on my dual boot Aspire One, wirelessly tethered to my Evo. I think I'm gonna try the Ubuntu hack for my Evo next. It's all about choices.

k2snowboards88 said:
The iphone is one cheap silicone case away from being very very good hardware. Just buy an iphone (and a cheap case) if you want ios.
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I wonder if the Evo would still be able to make calls if you put iOS4 on it
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only if held in the left hand.

I wonder if the cameras would still work if you upgraded the Evo to anything other than 2.1, lol.

MIUI phone

Anyone see the new miui phone? Sounds like a beast. 1.5 ghz snapdragon, 4 gigs of rom and best part in my opinion is they said you can flash any rom you want. One down side for me is from the front it looks like a crappy iPhone.

it's not an Iphone and that is what matters to me.

popper668 said:
it's not an Iphone and that is what matters to me.
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Very true.
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Don't know why ppl always bashing the iPhone...for what it is it does it well..solid construction, great battery life, very good camera, tons more apps and games than android, sharp screen, and the best support (connectivity and accessories). Only downside to me is the small screen. If the iPhone 5 comes to sprint and with at least a 4 inch screen, I would trade my evo in a heartbeat. For a multimedia phone, it practically does everything well.

phistyle said:
Don't know why ppl always bashing the iPhone...for what it is it does it well..solid construction, great battery life, very good camera, tons more apps and games than android, sharp screen, and the best support (connectivity and accessories). Only downside to me is the small screen. If the iPhone 5 comes to sprint and with at least a 4 inch screen, I would trade my evo in a heartbeat. For a multimedia phone, it practically does everything well.
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Sorry man but a phone that needs a rubber band around it or a special grip to get a signal doesn't fall under good construction to me. And I also hate how Jobs uses old technology and claims its revolutionary with each build. I think I hate Jobs and all his douch fallowers more than the iPhone itself. Just my 2 cents though. To each his own
Edit: and you can't really say multimedia without flash player.....

IPhone is great but you can't do much with it unless jailbroken n even then apple continues to close all exploits soon after the devs jailbreak them,
Android Is way more superiour especially with all the wonderful devs we have here!!
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I did see the MIUI phone and I gotta say, it looks real intriguing.

nan239 said:
IPhone is great but you can't do much with it unless jailbroken n even then apple continues to close all exploits soon after the devs jailbreak them,
Android Is way more superiour especially with all the wonderful devs we have here!!
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now this is what we call a fanboy....what are things you can't do when it's not jailbroken? it's no difference than saying you can't do much on android unless it's rooted. I have owned many different phones and brands through-out the 11 years I've owned a cell phone and am not biased towards any OS or manufacturer. I give props where props are due and even though I hate the people that use Apple products and worship the ground steve jobs walk on, I'd admit their iphone in many aspects are better than my evo. I already stated the positives earlier in this thread so I'm not going to repeat it again.

phistyle said:
now this is what we call a fanboy....what are things you can't do when it's not jailbroken? it's no difference than saying you can't do much on android unless it's rooted. I have owned many different phones and brands through-out the 11 years I've owned a cell phone and am not biased towards any OS or manufacturer. I give props where props are due and even though I hate the people that use Apple products and worship the ground steve jobs walk on, I'd admit their iphone in many aspects are better than my evo. I already stated the positives earlier in this thread so I'm not going to repeat it again.
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The problem with iPhone is iOS. Even after a JB the possibilites are far less than a stock unrooted Android. The reason most people root Android is not to enable certain things they were locked out of, but to run (and experiment with) custom roms.
Out of the box you can do tons with Android, like changing keyboards, launchers, photo galleries, handlers for sending files, widgets and tons more, that would never be possible on iOS.
iPhone + iOS is a synergistic combo that's very well designed, great usability, battery life and exceptional support from app developers and 3rd party accesories. But it is not a platform for people who like to customize their devices or need more control, and those limitations are not going away anytime soon.

Does every topic on these forums have to turn into flame fests about the iPhone or Sprints network or just general trolling?
Damn dude.

ECrispy said:
The problem with iPhone is iOS. Even after a JB the possibilites are far less than a stock unrooted Android. The reason most people root Android is not to enable certain things they were locked out of, but to run (and experiment with) custom roms.
Out of the box you can do tons with Android, like changing keyboards, launchers, photo galleries, handlers for sending files, widgets and tons more, that would never be possible on iOS.
iPhone + iOS is a synergistic combo that's very well designed, great usability, battery life and exceptional support from app developers and 3rd party accesories. But it is not a platform for people who like to customize their devices or need more control, and those limitations are not going away anytime soon.
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And another thing too is the companies that have Iphone, I was a former T Mobile customer, started with them with my first Android phone and as soon as they posted that AT&T was taking control I switched to Sprint.

mattykinsx said:
Does every topic on these forums have to turn into flame fests about the iPhone or Sprints network or just general trolling?
Damn dude.
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Innndeeeeed
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Crazy how I stopped to read this thread about the miui phone as stated in the title and only 3 posts are about it and the rest being about the iPhone lol
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Miui phone. Ftw!!!
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So where is the info? Is this going to be on Chinese carriers only? Links? Release date?

Xiaomi M1
here's the link from official page:
www . xiaomi . com / features . html
if you're using Chrome, you're able to translate to English (or your default language).
the phone will be on pre-sales end of August, with delivery in October.
the only thing I wonder, if its going to have a front camera?! if yes, M1 is definitely my next phone!

costisanu said:
here's the link from official page:
www . xiaomi . com / features . html
if you're using Chrome, you're able to translate to English (or your default language).
the phone will be on pre-sales end of August, with delivery in October.
the only thing I wonder, if its going to have a front camera?! if yes, M1 is definitely my next phone!
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ANd for people that just want to click on the link: http://www.xiaomi.com/features.html

were to buy
anybody know were/how to buy this phone?
anybody own one?

Nexus Prime Pics Leaked & Boy Its UGLY!!!

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In my opinion the phone is hideous, was thinking to upgrade but no way in hell am i doing that....
i got a feeling Samsung designed this too look like sh*t, to sell the galaxys2 and save customers for their new stock coming soon. This looks like some cheap Chinese knockoff. But the sad fact is they look a lot better...
what do you guys think.
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NEW pictures released look a lot better still not feeling the soft key icons as much though....

looks like a galaxy s2, what did everyone expect?
the nexus s should have been a pretty obvious clue

It looks like a phone
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kuljit55 said:
In my opinion the phone is hideous, was thinking to upgrade but no way in hell am i doing that....
i got a feeling Samsung designed this too look like sh*t, to sell the galaxys2 and save customers for their new stock coming soon. This looks like some cheap Chinese knockoff. But the sad fact is they look a lot better...
what do you guys think.
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The rear shot is actually the Nexus S. The front shot is Verizon's Prime. In conclusion, you are jumping to conclusions too quickly.

ICS in general is ugly..
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Hideous is right. Both the phone and the software.
Waiting to see what Cyanogenmod supported devices HTC bring out in the next year.

Kenorn said:
The rear shot is actually the Nexus S. The front shot is Verizon's Prime. In conclusion, you are jumping to conclusions too quickly.
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True, for me it's an obvious fake.
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I think its nice

isnt the prime going to be built by motorola now that google aquired motorola mobile?
i would love to see another HTC nexus though.. now that would be a phone worth upgrading to.. htc has never disappointed.. even the cheap plastic samsung-styled HTC phones are solid (ie htc magic)

I like my nexus one and nexus s... but that nexus one isn't gonna win a beauty contest anytime soon...
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grimey01 said:
isnt the prime going to be built by motorola now that google aquired motorola mobile?
i would love to see another HTC nexus though.. now that would be a phone worth upgrading to.. htc has never disappointed.. even the cheap plastic samsung-styled HTC phones are solid (ie htc magic)
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little late for that buddy......lol

grimey01 said:
isnt the prime going to be built by motorola now that google aquired motorola mobile?
i would love to see another HTC nexus though.. now that would be a phone worth upgrading to.. htc has never disappointed.. even the cheap plastic samsung-styled HTC phones are solid (ie htc magic)
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The prime was too deep into development when google bought Motorola for them to just abandon the project. If there is going to be another nexus after the prime then chances are it will be done by Motorola.
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grimey01 said:
isnt the prime going to be built by motorola now that google aquired motorola mobile?
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According to Google (whether or not you want to believe it is another story), the Nexus phones will still be a contest for developers. Just because Google owns Motorola doesn't (supposedly) guarantee that Motorola will be the exclusive Nexus manufacturer.
I really hope this is true, because I am sure this is a major thing manufacturers push for. They may not sell as well as some of the other phones out there, but they get a ton of clout and the developers are very quick to stand behind them. Anything that challenges companies to try to one-up each other is a great thing in my book. That is what drives innovation.

Pictures don't always do an item justice
The N1 is no looker when seeing it online--which i am reminded of everytime I download MIUI from their Rom page
But, in my hand, it looks and feels great-------

i always thought the N1 looked better in photos, in hand the frame is too big and the colour is not to my liking, the images show a more darker black/brown

IMO, the supposed design look hideous but i like the software though, colorful, eye catching definitely except for the damn home menu and back buttons. WHERE IS THE F*ING SEARCH BUTTON! >.< i know it's weird but i am one of a few people who uses it a alot. on my n1 the search buttons serves as quick autorotate on/off and search function as well. Another biggest thing, doesnt that phone in the photo looks 4:3 rather than 16:9 to you guys?

I no longer think Nexus is ugly. The new picture shows aluminium type of edge around the phone. The first leak of the pics prob preliminary. I likes the new pics by modoco.
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you're right, but it will win any usefulness-contest among any Androidphone with its trackball

Engadget says its on the samsung website if you simply search for it. No specs yet. Just 2 and a half more hours till the specs are released >

The phone and the software are beautiful. What ever the op is smoking i Dont want any of it. I would snag that phone in a minute If it wasnt a verizon exculsive. I hate verizon with a Passion.
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New mobile os "Sailfish OS" thoughts?

I dont know if anyone else has seen the news on a new os called sailfish.. by a company called jolla. I guess they are from old meego times..
Looks like they want it to run on all devices.. and even hope for andtoid apps support..
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Anyone interested.. maybe a port would be neatvto try,.. the two latest nexus phones are perfect because they have no nav buttons.. and the ui is buttonless.. all gesture and swiping.
http://www.engadget.com/2012/11/21/jolla-launches-sailfish-os/
Sdk.. https://sailfishos.org/wiki/Main_Page
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I don't see much of an opening for a new player in the Smartphone war but good for them for trying.

The name alone is awful. I wouldn't want it on my phone.
FireFox OS maybe.

It's free software, and no DRM, unlike Android. But like Replicant, it won't get market share.

Couple interesting features worth discussion IMO:
"true multitasking" was the main focus. Active programs can be pinned to the homescreen as tiles
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They also showed off a feature called "Ambiance," which uses colors from a picture you select to tint the UI
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I loved MeeGo on my Nokia N9 and its swiping setup. I would love to be able to use it on my Nexus (Sailfish, that is). MeeGo has way better multitasking than Android has.
In my opinion, MeeGo is the OS that just is the most fun to use. Albeit more limiting than Android.

dannejanne said:
MeeGo has way better multitasking than Android has.
In my opinion, MeeGo is the OS that just is the most fun to use. Albeit more limiting than Android.
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But without any apps to multitask with.
That's why I don't see room for a new player at this stage of the game. Android, iOS and even WP8 to a lesser extent are just too established for a newcomer to compete.

063_XOBX said:
But without any apps to multitask with.
That's why I don't see room for a new player at this stage of the game. Android, iOS and even WP8 to a lesser extent are just too established for a newcomer to compete.
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Good point. Though I am not an app person myself. It did have a good Spotify app (homebrew, that could actually search your own offline lists), a working Whatsapp (also way more customizable than any other whatsapp app) etc. It has a fairly strong dedicated community supporting it.
I hope Sailfish can handle Android apps as they claim. There's a Android logo 0:50 into their official introduction movie. I don't thing it will ever get "big". But a nice alternative for phone nerds like me.

Hi,
i'm one of the interested ones.
There is not really a lack of Apps. If we belive what they say, a lot of Android apps should run native on Sailfish. On the other hand there is a good system to port them.
There are not only the Nexus without software keys. The new Motorolla don't have them too. They're also open for developers.

I'm more of a breadfish guy...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yuf2nvDWCJY

bardzogrozny said:
Hi,
i'm one of the interested ones.
There is not really a lack of Apps. If we belive what they say, a lot of Android apps should run native on Sailfish. On the other hand there is a good system to port them.
There are not only the Nexus without software keys. The new Motorolla don't have them too. They're also open for developers.
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Problem is, Google will not license the play store to them.

So you think it will be to hard for ordinary users to install apps? Don't you think they will create an own store application wich uses the google account of the user to install apps?
Otherwise there is only left to port them.

Props to them for trying. I agree I don't see google letting them into the play store, because frankly it won't help their sales at all. If they deny them play store access, that new os will fade away and be forgotten. If they let it in, then it has potential to grow and be a competitor for google thus taking away from more android licenses being sold.
It will be neat to see, maybe spark ideas for the main 3 os companies to license from and improve. They should change the name so it doesnt sound like you are saying 'selfish' with a strong accent
bardzogrozny said:
So you think it will be to hard for ordinary users to install apps? Don't you think they will create an own store application wich uses the google account of the user to install apps?
Otherwise there is only left to port them.
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It will probably function like sideloading apps, youll have to download them to local storage and manually install them. Easy for us, but my parents? Heck no. lol

Looks like Metro and Android had a baby.
Meego should have been alowed to evolve under Nokia.

I think the buttonless ui is defintely interesting.. i would love to see a port attempt and just try itout..
I know i wouldnt use it daily driver.. but as a technerd i would love to try it out
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Trekfan422991 said:
I think the buttonless ui is defintely interesting.. i would love to see a port attempt and just try itout..
I know i wouldnt use it daily driver.. but as a technerd i would love to try it out
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I like the design too. But i would try to use it productive.
I hope the version for Tablet will be as good as this for phone.

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Problem is, Google will not license the play store to them.
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We're on XDA and that's what you are worried about?

Some of these features are looking really good! Hope to see it running on my phone very soon.

I can foresee this being ported to Nexus devices. Really looking forward to it.

good os but no devs
hi about the playstore u can hack it to the os and make it think it is running on android and using android phone not a real problem
u can install blackmart alpha or 1mobile market it looks like playstore
the real problem is there is no devs are working on this os!!!!!!!!!!!!!! why i think the android is boring sometimes and had to change it but when i look where to go the ios i hate it (don't ask why) cus i hate this apple but she has a cute phone only the 4s maybe some android ports make it good
tizen looks like bada
bada is app less (no apps)
webos who is care about it
firefox os its only for firefox browser in my mind
wp7/8 it is not open source
so the future os i think sailfish is
thanks.

[Disscusion] Firefox OS Epic win? or Epic fail? Your thoughts (keep it clean)

Hi guys just wanted to make a tread to find out what people think about Firefox OS so they can share there opinions views what they'd like to see or what they love etc at the moment there isn't that much to go on but based on how it's looking so far opinions will surely change as time goes on but whenever you're reading this what do u think

Well I think it's epic cause it's more open source than android cause it's based on the Web technology (html), and hope we could see this on new phones
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I think it is an epic fail because of a bad UI that looks like a cheap ios theme
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Am actually with u on this 1they haven't really got me enthused as Ubuntu did plus looking at it feels like Android and ios has a baby but only time will tell
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Ubuntu is far better than Firefox OS.
I like the way Ubuntu Devs have used all Edges of screen. Firefox OS has nothing specific.
Jolla Sailfish has something like the pulldown for menu. That's Awesome.!!

I saw them demoing it on a low-end phone

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You mean Jolla sailfish?
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I think its the wrong time to come into the game this late. Look at what happened to netbooks and chromeos. It kind of flopped and it was outdated in less than 6 months because of the tablet generation. There are so many great mobile operating systems (iOS, Android) that to come out with another wouldn't be successful. Google Chrome OS is great but it has a limited buyers market. And to me it just seems weird that a company mostly known by their browser is going to come out with an OS? How about you develop an OS for PC before entering the mobile generation?
That's my thought,
John

I cant wait to test it...I always like new things and I hope wont be awful I mean sluggish like android 1.6-2.1.
But I think people wont go for it(massive)
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I have more believes in Tizen OS. But will be hard for anyone to compete and gain terrain against the well established IOS and Android. I don't think all 3 new OS's (Tizen, Firefox and Sailfish) will survive. But Tizen will do good, most because because they have the hardware of Samsung

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I think it is an epic fail because of a bad UI that looks like a cheap ios theme
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this:good:

In my opinion I can say Firefox is beginning in the development of software for the movils. So, I prefer give more time for devs... Maybe in the future will be a big phone OS.

i think it's not really good if you give it on an android based phone..
i mean where's the point of buying an android phone without android inside it..
HTML cant do much much stuff either...

I think that it's great that a 'proper' opensource alternative will exist. I just hope they manage to get enough traction. I agree the UI is unimaginative and looks too much like a bad IOS copy but that can develop as the OS matures. It all comes down to how well it's taking up by developers, how smooth the system runs and of course price. As a basic smartphone for non power users that only need to make calls, browse the web, message, etc it could be a good alternative, especially as it won't be secretly leaking all your private information back to Google, Apple or MS.
With ububtu phone coming too it's going to be exciting times to watch how these unfold.

o-l-a-v said:
I have more believes in Tizen OS. But will be hard for anyone to compete and gain terrain against the well established IOS and Android. I don't think all 3 new OS's (Tizen, Firefox and Sailfish) will survive. But Tizen will do good, most because because they have the hardware of Samsung
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i dont know why but im wondering about Firefox OS. something could change with it.

I think it's neither epic win nor epic fail. Firefox OS isn't designed to be #1, it's designed as an alternative and will do with even a small market share. That makes it neither a win nor a fail, it's the user experience that will ultimately decide. If you ask for opinions, make the thread title a question only, without providing any possible answers. We're here to express our opinion instead of picking a preset of opinions, which many seem to do.

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deathxlive.lx said:
Well I think it's epic cause it's more open source than android cause it's based on the Web technology (html), and hope we could see this on new phones
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No one has stopped anyone from forking Android and taking that in a direction that is free and open. In fact I'd argue that at this point, we'd be better off with an Android fork than a new OS. When you look at what they've removed from Android across the last two versions, you can only anticipate the disappointment that's surely to follow in the future.
nachiketa.ramesh said:
I think it is an epic fail because of a bad UI that looks like a cheap ios theme
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TBF, pretty much every phone features a grid of icons. The single hard button worries me more.

yashwantpiduru said:
Ubuntu is far better than Firefox OS.
I like the way Ubuntu Devs have used all Edges of screen. Firefox OS has nothing specific.
Jolla Sailfish has something like the pulldown for menu. That's Awesome.!!
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couldnt be much agree

Personally I think its an epic win. It will never be the comparable to any OS like Android. However where it does excel is in its openness. Its probably one of the most free and open OS I've ever seen, and it uses Linux for its kernel. On another note if I had only one choice between Firefox OS and Ubuntu phone OS I'd pick Firefox.. but I haven't liked Ubuntu since Unity and the commercialization and exploitation of their Linux distro. My favorite feature of Firefox OS has got to be the ability to view source of an app just by holding the side button.