Hi, sorry for noob questions but, I prefer this than asking if my dead Defy looks better on my room or the bathroom
I'm currently running on 2.3.5 stock Movistar Latinoamerica, never upgraded (Already found a corresponding SBF), if something goes wrong, or I just want to come back, can I flash the the corresponding SBF "unlimited" times? do I have to get a matching Nandroid? Can I come back just with the Nandroid?
Thanks and sorry for spamming with this....... (I searched but I didn't found anything and the Defy Guide doesn't clarify everything.
Sorry for bad english
You can do either one of the two things:
1. restore full nandroid, after wiping data and cache
2. flash full sbf, after wiping data and cache
both will result to restoring your ROM
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Quick question for the gurus.
If you wipe everything, factory reset, SBF, and then immediately make a nandroid, what is left over when restoring to that point?
I've done SBF's before, without wiping everything manually, and there was still stuff saved. I've also done restores, where it would appear that some things remained.
Is it possible to have a perfectly (or extremely close) stock restore point? What exactly remains when doing a restore, and what should be done prior to the restore to ensure that it's complete?
Essentially, I would like to swap between Fission and Rubix blurry, as needed, without somehow contaminating the other ROM.
The last time I did a bit too much ROM testing, and was swapping between 5 or more builds, and in the end I found that I was starting to get a lot of force crashes, which of course led me to doing an SBF again.
Thank you,
--bb
bladebarrier said:
Quick question for the gurus.
If you wipe everything, factory reset, SBF, and then immediately make a nandroid, what is left over when restoring to that point?
I've done SBF's before, without wiping everything manually, and there was still stuff saved. I've also done restores, where it would appear that some things remained.
Is it possible to have a perfectly (or extremely close) stock restore point? What exactly remains when doing a restore, and what should be done prior to the restore to ensure that it's complete?
Essentially, I would like to swap between Fission and Rubix blurry, as needed, without somehow contaminating the other ROM.
The last time I did a bit too much ROM testing, and was swapping between 5 or more builds, and in the end I found that I was starting to get a lot of force crashes, which of course led me to doing an SBF again.
Thank you,
--bb
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Good question. I've had different experiences with SBF, as have others. Sometimes, it does a clean wipe. Other times you need to factory reset to get to 2.3.15 OTA.
In order to do a backup, you MUST be rooted, so your backup is, by definition, not clean. In short, say you had to return your phone to stock so you could get it covered or exchanged, SBF + plus factory reset is your friend.
There is another way on the 928droid site. It's a link to the Stock OTA 2.3.15: http://928droid.com/DroidX.htm
Second link from the bottom. Bon apetit!
Hello everyone,
I tried search the answer but only found something in a different phone section and it was not clear.
My question...I have already flashed with the Ice rom and it works fine...when I decide to change roms and flash a NEW one...what are the steps I must do for it to work correctly?
Thanks in advance for any help,
Brian K
If you're staying with the same rom (i.e. upgrading to a newer version of the same rom) - back up, wipe cache/dalvik cache, then flash
If you're changing rom but staying with Sense-based roms - do the same and see if you have any issues. If you do run into issues - wipe data/cache/dalvik cache, reboot.
If you're going from AOSP to Sense or Sense to AOSP - back up, wipe data/cache/dalvik cache, flash.
Its just do the same thing you did the first time. Make sure to do a full wipe and flash
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dnguyen1988 said:
Its just do the same thing you did the first time. Make sure to do a full wipe and flash
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Might be a lil off topic but I think it might be related.....you said 'do the same thing you did the first time'....so i'm guessing first time means the first time i flash a custom rom?? And if so, does that mean for the first time i flash a custom rom should i do a full wipe???
Thanks!
Paso876 said:
Might be a lil off topic but I think it might be related.....you said 'do the same thing you did the first time'....so i'm guessing first time means the first time i flash a custom rom?? And if so, does that mean for the first time i flash a custom rom should i do a full wipe???
Thanks!
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Yes you are correct. The post above mine is way more detailed. You should also do a nandroid backup of the rom you're on now in case you wanna go back.
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The best way to move between ROMs is to make a nandroid + Titanium backup. Fully wipe. Flash your new ROM. Carefully re-import settings from Titanium if all seems to be working well. In the event of a failure, roll back to your nandroid copy.
Im really sorry but I still dont understand...I mean I kinda do but dont want to mess up and because of that, I'm trying to have a clear pic in my head.
Example...when you flash for the first time you have to:
flash recovery
wipe data/cach/etc
drop the rom onto the sd card
select the rom from sd card
reboot phone
Do you have to do ALL the same steps again, if you want to try a NEW rom...or no?
If no...what steps do you do differently?
Also...as for the Nandroid backup...do you do this everytime also, or just once?
Again, Im really sorry to be such a newb...but I am trying...I have just about every guide...its just that most guide are not for newbs and alot of times they are outdate. Dont get me wrong I appreciate the guides...I TRULY Do, I just dont want to mess this phone up.
Thanks in advance for any help
Brian K
Repeat everything as you listed it except for flashing a new recovery (unless moving to/from a Froyo/Gingerbread; as recovery differs between Froyo and GB). I usually only make nandroid backups once I have found a ROM that I like and have it working well. It's a system restore! Then if I want to tinker with the "shiny new ROM" that just came out I can load it up and play with it. If it doesn't work well or at all, just roll back to your faithful fully working nandroid copy you made.
Kline said:
Repeat everything as you listed it except for flashing a new recovery (unless moving to/from a Froyo/Gingerbread; as recovery differs between Froyo and GB). I usually only make nandroid backups once I have found a ROM that I like and have it working well. It's a system restore! Then if I want to tinker with the "shiny new ROM" that just came out I can load it up and play with it. If it doesn't work well or at all, just roll back to your faithful fully working nandroid copy you made.
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Actually switching between Froyo and GB has been made even easier by the new ClockWorkMod Recovery... TrueBlue's method works amazingly... Find it here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=944681... Flash it like you would a ROM via CWM... His zip also INCLUDES the STOCK RECOVERY so if you ever want to recalibrate the battery you can do so by going into Rom Manager and selecting 2.5.1.4 as your recovery, when done just switch back by selecting 3.0.0.5 and that will load up 3.0.0.6..
To answer OP's Question...
Step 1) NANDroid backup (Backup and Restore > Backup > press trackball)
Step 2) wipe data/cache/dalvik (I always do each of them twice for safe measures); Like someone here already said, if upgrading to a new version of THE SAME ROM BUT ITS BEEN UPDATED, just wipe CACHE AND DALVIK. Otherwise, wipe all 3.
Step 3) Install zip from sdcard > choose zip from sdcard > select the ROM you want to install.
P.S. FYI I WOULD DO THIS FIRST!!!!! For flashing TrueBlue's 3.0.0.6 to be able to flash both froyo and gingerbread roms without changing the recovery each time (which is a pain in the ass btw) FOLLOW STEP 3 EXACTLY. The only difference is you will choose GlacierRecovery_to_RomManager.zip instead of whatever Rom you want. Reboot, go into RomManager, scroll to the bottom and select All ClockWorkMod Recoveries, choose 3.0.0.5 and it should say successfully flashed. Reboot into recovery and make sure at the bottom it says CWM 3.0.0.6. If it does, congrats, if not, reboot and reflash it, and continue to do this until you see CWM 3.0.0.6 at the bottom of the recovery screen.
PM me if you can't get it to work and want some more help with anything!
Hello,
I want to say it again, that the people in the Android forums are so much more helpful then back when I had a iphone and needed help. The people over in the iphone forums would sometomes help, but most of all, they would be rude.
Android forum techs are the BEST!
As for the Nandroid backup...this part also is a bit confusing, cause a few guides/videos show them doing the nandroid after they do the 3 wipes. However, I thought it made sense to do it first like you said.
Last night at around 4am I flashed CM7 with no problem and it is truly amazing. I am started to make sense just a little bit of all this but right now...I still cant wrap my head around the whole flashing recovery process.
Please understand I.m not just asking for answers, I am also reading as much as possible...I am making an effort.
Thanks so much everyone,
Brian K
No problem. If you have any questions I'd be glad to answer them for you or direct you in the direction for your answer. Just pm me like I said.
Just continue to read read read.. That's why I did and this is the first phone I've rooted or done anything with and I've become knowledgeable with some of the easier concepts and I'm trying to learn more complicated concepts as I go along.. Everyone had to start somewhere, and most of us here on xda realize this which is why we are so happy to help as long as these questions aren't asked and answered 4000 times.
P.S. Where ever you read/watched to wipe before NANDroiding I would advise to not go back to that because that is COMPLETELY the wrong thing to do!!
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No prob Brian I know I wasn't as detailed as other ppl who helped but if you have any questions just pm me.
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I know I keep saying this but so far everyone here is sooo freakn helpful. Im shocked cause when I had a iphone and did the whole jailbreak thing...the people over there where very rude.
dont worry dnguyen1988...u were nice enough to help out and I promise to take you up on the offer for help
Amac1222...just to be clear...your saying to do a Nandroid backup before wiping ANYTHING...yes?
Thanks again for everything,
Brian
Yes, even when updating your rom, you can always move the nandroid off your sd to an external hd. Or you can delete them as you move up updates, (i.e. Build 41 to 42 to 43 delete 41 once you know 42 is good to backup to if needed). When I flash kernels I tend to not nandroid each time although I should. As a super noob I would and I used to until you are comfortable.
The basic thing is you always want something to fall back on in case you get stick in a boot loop or stuck on the mytouch screen.
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I recently got the rooted gingerbread update to my X well thought it would be sweet to get a rom for it. Tried to install it well went through fine, but when I tried to reboot it got stuck on the M logo and tried wiping data and cache, yet nothing seems to fix it. Any help would be great not used to the X as my main phone is the TB.
(also sorry I did checking of how to fix but didn't quite follow how to use I see I need rsdlite and full VRZ_MB810_2.3.34_1FF_01.sbf is there any other files I will be needing?)
While reading RSD lite is windows ran correct?
So im kind of in the same boat you are. I am unable to flash liberty 1.5 because it gets stuck on the boot screen.
First off can you get into recovery?
If yes did you back up your original rom before trying to flash the new one?
If yes the best way I found to flash a backup is to do: wipe data/factory reset, wipe catch partition, then under mounts and storage format: system, data, catch. Then try installing your backup.
If you have no for any of these tell me and I might know a way around them. Like I said im in the same boat and have dealt with some of the stuff your experiencing.
BrownEye02 said:
So im kind of in the same boat you are. I am unable to flash liberty 1.5 because it gets stuck on the boot screen.
First off can you get into recovery?
If yes did you back up your original rom before trying to flash the new one?
If yes the best way I found to flash a backup is to do: wipe data/factory reset, wipe catch partition, then under mounts and storage format: system, data, catch. Then try installing your backup.
If you have no for any of these tell me and I might know a way around them. Like I said im in the same boat and have dealt with some of the stuff your experiencing.
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Unfortunately I cant get into the recovery it seems to be broken I can only get into the stock bootloader I believe the blue one where you can update clear cache and wipe data. Wish I could get into recovery would be cake walk then.
Sounds like you both need to sbf. There are stickies at the top of this forum with instructions for Windows and Linux.
If you intend to flash a froyo rom after installing the GB update, you have to SBF back to stock first.
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I had already flashed to 2.4.13 before realizing that sms wasn't working and I am having a very hard time getting back to 2.4.6 without any problems. At first all I did was wipe cache and dalvik and then flashed 2.4.6 over 2.4.13 but ran into a whole mess trying to get that to work.. should that be possible without completely wiping data and doing a factory reset? I somehow ended up in a recovery bootloop and after trying EVERYTHING including odin an old CWM trick I found under the development section I spent about 5 hours getting it right to odin back to stock in order to get back to a nandroid backup of 2.4.13. Now I successfully made it to 2.4.6 but I can't for the life of me get the messaging app to work.. it keeps force closing. I tried uninstalling it and reflashing the ROM but that didn't work either. I'm going to try to extract the apk from the zip and manually install it over the current one, but if that doesn't work does anyone have any ideas? Am I just going to gave to do a complete data wipe? (I'd really like to avoid that I use a lot of apps.. its a pain to restore all of them with TB). Anyway i'd appreciate some help and sorry I'm not allowed to post in the MIUI thread yet bc of 10 post minimum requirements? so I had to post this here.
Thank you kindly
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Ahh I apologize I just realized there was a separate Q&A section.. anyway still looking for advice if I just have to do a data wipe and start all over or not.
Thanks again!
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Soo I've been with xda for about a year but haven't used the forum myself much except for reading and links, and again I apologize for posting in the wrong section.. it's a lot clearer when i'm on my laptop vs. the xda app
I'm just going to do a full data wipe/reset to make this easy (well, sort of ).. but thank you anyway and thank you for understanding...
I guess we all have to learn somehow, right? Hope it's cool
try clearing data of the messaging app. if it still doesn't work then wipe data for everything and start over.
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Hey guys -
This may be a dumb question but i want an answer before i start going nuts flashing. I just installed Tildes rom the other day and i'm enjoying it. i want to try a few others now. Can we do normal backup/recoveries in TWRP now? As in, can i do a full system/nand backup and wipe everything and install CMRemix from scratch, and then if dont like it, i can wipe system/date/everything and just restore my backup?
I remember there being some issues with doing a full wipe when we started because no one had a copy of the original rom. Is that still the case? If so, any tips or advice ?
anyone, buuueelller?