Interesting story, thought I'd relate.
So I was at home yesterday, playing with the s-pen keeper.
I took out the s-pen, turned the screen off and walked around.
I could walk roughly 18-20 feet before the alert fired off. Fair enough.
So today, I was driving home, and halfway there my phone made some noise I didn't recognize and vibrated.
Got home, pulled my phone out - s-pen alert! Huh? I didn't remember pulling it out.
Drove back to work, looked around in the parking lot.
Just on a whim, went back inside and looked in my cube - and there it was, on my desk.
So I managed to get a good 40 feet away from it before the alert fired off.
Still though - that's wonderful! Any alert at all is fantastic.
- Frank
This phone has so many bells and whistles I can't wait to get my hands on one.....
That is SOO cool! So does that mean that the S-Pen has/is electronic? Because I remember someone else on another thread saying it wasn't, but the fact that the note II knows how far away the pen is and features activate when you press a button must mean it has some gizmos inside there, right?
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vincentallen2 said:
That is SOO cool! So does that mean that the S-Pen has/is electronic? Because I remember someone else on another thread saying it wasn't, but the fact that the note II knows how far away the pen is and features activate when you press a button must mean it has some gizmos inside there, right?
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It doesn't know how far away you are.
It knows if you pulled out the stylus.
It can also kind of guess whether you are walking using the accelerometers. (similar to how pace counters work).
I managed to drive really far away before setting the alarm off, because it looks for an up/down forwards movement, I guess.
- Frank
it goes off after about 10-30 shakes, depending on how the phone moves.
I did a dumb thing when I first got my Note II, I pulled the S-Pen out and walked away with it, wondering why I wasn't get an alarm!! Why did I think the pen would make a noise?! Doh!
apprentice said:
I did a dumb thing when I first got my Note II, I pulled the S-Pen out and walked away with it, wondering why I wasn't get an alarm!! Why did I think the pen would make a noise?! Doh!
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Actually, there is a bluetooth spen available with mic and speaker. And it would be quite nice if the pen could make a sound or something to help you find it.
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I just noticed something with the s pen when you hover over a keyboard, it deactivates touch responsiveness and only allows the S pen to be used. Its kinda cool
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ChodTheWacko said:
It doesn't know how far away you are.
It knows if you pulled out the stylus.
It can also kind of guess whether you are walking using the accelerometers. (similar to how pace counters work).
I managed to drive really far away before setting the alarm off, because it looks for an up/down forwards movement, I guess.
- Frank
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But how does the hover feature work if the n2 can't tell it's distance? =o
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vincentallen2 said:
But how does the hover feature work if the n2 can't tell it's distance? =o
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Wacom technology uses magnetic resonance.
So if you have the stylus close enough (1 cm?) It creates a feedback loop and the Note knows the stylus is there.
I don't think there is enough intelligence to determine how far away it is even if you are that close.
And more than an inch away or so and you're out of range totally and it's all over.
- Frank
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I just got my note today and I was writing and all of a sudden the note wouldn't recognize the pen. Usually when you write with an actual and nothing writes you tend to shake it so out of habit I did that with the s-pen and then realized how idiotic I looked anyone else do this?
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antispiral said:
I just got my note today and I was writing and all of a sudden the note wouldn't recognize the pen. Usually when you write with an actual and nothing writes you tend to shake it so out of habit I did that with the s-pen and then realized how idiotic I looked anyone else do this?
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I find running in circles and flapping my arms works best. It's in the manual.
mitchellvii said:
I find running in circles and flapping my arms works best. It's in the manual.
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I knew I should have read manuall first lol
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Ah, the old OM (Oscillatory maintenance). It's a pet theory that that will do anything, but clearly it's a technique for wimps.
Everyone knows that when something stops working, clearly the best cure is PM (Percussive Maintenance)...
(Now I'll have to pay attention and see if I ever wimp out )
When I got my first Tablet PC, I used a Wacom stylus with an eraser end (which works with the Note 10.1 - BTW).
When I was drawing, I'd flip the pen over to erase and without thinking, I'd *brush away the eraser crumbs*... which makes sense on paper, but of course, doesn't make sense on a tablet.
I don't do it much anymore - but I still sometimes feel my arm wanting to do it even now...
Amazing how we get into these deep grooves and even more amazing how close to 'the real thing' these devices can be.
Thats nothing, I was reading an actual paper magazine and tried to scroll the page. Had to look and see if anyone noticed thank god no one did.
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bbgt2 said:
Thats nothing, I was reading an actual paper magazine and tried to scroll the page. Had to look and see if anyone noticed thank god no one did.
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Mine wasnt that bad... I was trying to show something on my brother's 17" laptop the other day and I ran my fingers on the screen to scroll down... Whooops...
junrider said:
Mine wasnt that bad... I was trying to show something on my brother's 17" laptop the other day and I ran my fingers on the screen to scroll down... Whooops...
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I regularly try to use touch on my laptop's external monitor. It looks like a large version of a tablet since it's on an arm, and really messes with my head.
TheWerewolf said:
When I got my first Tablet PC, I used a Wacom stylus with an eraser end (which works with the Note 10.1 - BTW).
When I was drawing, I'd flip the pen over to erase and without thinking, I'd *brush away the eraser crumbs*... which makes sense on paper, but of course, doesn't make sense on a tablet.
I don't do it much anymore - but I still sometimes feel my arm wanting to do it even now...
Amazing how we get into these deep grooves and even more amazing how close to 'the real thing' these devices can be.
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That's funny!
Hey guys,
yesterday night while playing around with my international Note2, I found something pretty interesting, and I was able to control the entire phone WITHOUT touching the screen at all, neither with my fingers nor the S-Pen.
Basically the phone doesn't recognize the S-Pen click/tap by the contact of the pen with the screen, the phone does recognize the "tap" when the pen tip goes back.
Now try yourself: with the help of *whatever you want* ( I used a poker playing card ), bring the S-Pen near the screen, let's say over an icon, and with the object you've chosen make the pen tip go back. If you're accurate enough, you will see the icon being pressed.
Now throw the object away and use your fingers, take the pen in your hand, keep the tip pressed with your index finger and have fun.
I don't know if this might be useful for some future development or has already been posted/discovered, I'm just sharing my experience.
Best regards,
PurPLe SKy
Wo! You're right... It works!!
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hehehe
I think Almost all they know it.....
Two months before I made a video on it take a look at it.....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOqPMT21NMA&feature=youtube_gdata_player
If you can you can update this link in OP
it is for fun only
raghavafitt said:
hehehe
I think Almost all they know it.....
Two months before I made a video on it take a look at it.....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOqPMT21NMA&feature=youtube_gdata_player
If you can you can update this link in OP
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LOL, ok, ok
I got my Note2 less than a month ago and I discovered that just yesterday, also the title of the topic didn't match anything relevant/similar
here's a funny trick you can play on other note (2) owners if they have a somewhat flexible case: attach a magnet to the back of the phone.
it won't hurt any of the electronics, but the s-pen will refuse to write above the magnet.
I figured that out when I got a nice 360 flip case with a not so nice magnet in the back.
it took me a while to figure out there was nothing wrong with my stylus.
How to use s pen without touch to screen please reply me
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thinks for the info
I really love this feature on the phone. So much that i have found myself doing it on my Nexus 7 and other devices thinking they'll wake too. Nope! Have any of you been knocking other things around? he
With so many other people that do not have a G2, they seemed to be concerned over the buttons on the back. with knock-on I really do not use the buttons on the back unless I need to reboot.
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I really love this feature on the phone. So much that i have found myself doing it on my Nexus 7 and other devices thinking they'll wake too. Nope! Have any of you been knocking other things around? he
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I actually caught myself doing it on my Nexus 7 today.
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I really love this feature on the phone. So much that i have found myself doing it on my Nexus 7 and other devices thinking they'll wake too. Nope! Have any of you been knocking other things around? he
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If you hack the N7 and if there are any PGM kernels available for it, you can have essentially the same thing (I think PGM uses a swiping action rather than knock knock, but its the same principle)
I rarely use the power button on the back, I love the knock on feature!
Theres been kernels since when I had an Htc Evo that had the slide to awake feature, couple of kernels for the One have it along with a knock on and off feature but it has a very small sweet spot, still it was the only thing that kept me sane since I had to strain and fumble my One to get to the power button. The most reliable method was the logo to sleep and awake, you had to actually press down just above the Htc logo and half the time you would end up hitting the application drawer icon. I didn't care for the swipe over the capacitative keys function.
G2 you can knock on and off anywhere which is what sets this function apart, yes you can tap up top on the status bar to have it work every time otherwise you just need to get your timing down on the double knock elsewhere. I love this feature from LG, it just makes sense regardless of where the power key is located but honestly I find myself using the power key sometimes just because I like the way it feels, its one of the best buttons I've ever pushed lol for lack of a better word.
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I rarely use the power button on the back, I love the knock on feature!
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The knock on has worked for my about 99% of the time and I haven complaints. At most I tap a third time and never use the power button other then to reboot.
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I really love this feature on the phone. So much that i have found myself doing it on my Nexus 7 and other devices thinking they'll wake too. Nope! Have any of you been knocking other things around? he
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I love it!!!
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I really love this feature on the phone. So much that i have found myself doing it on my Nexus 7 and other devices thinking they'll wake too. Nope! Have any of you been knocking other things around? he
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i was actually at barnes and nobles earlier getting my niece a cheap nook tablet to use and tried to knock on the display model as im so used to it now. the clerk was looking at me funny so i had to pull out the phone and show her lol
Knock-on and it's counterpart Knock-off are a very convenient feature that I'm confident to say is the MOST convenient method of turning on a phone as of September 2013. If other companies don't follow suit in either a very similar fashion or something better, I would be surpr..... No, I'm sure other companies will do something very similar. It's really that good. Only thing I can imagine would be superior is having the phone read my thoughts. Err, wait!
xyltha said:
Knock-on and it's counterpart Knock-off are a very convenient feature that I'm confident to say is the MOST convenient method of turning on a phone as of September 2013. If other companies don't follow suit in either a very similar fashion or something better, I would be surpr..... No, I'm sure other companies will do something very similar. It's really that good. Only thing I can imagine would be superior is having the phone read my thoughts. Err, wait!
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I can only think of one con of the knock on feature. I find that if I put my hand in my pocket or handle the phone without the intention of turning it on, sometimes part of my hand hits the screen twice and it will randomly turn on in my pocket or while in my hand. Not a big deal, I'm sure some software tweaks could fix the sensitivity.
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I can only think of one con of the knock on feature. I find that if I put my hand in my pocket or handle the phone without the intention of turning it on, sometimes part of my hand hits the screen twice and it will randomly turn on in my pocket or while in my hand. Not a big deal, I'm sure some software tweaks could fix the sensitivity.
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If the phone is in the pocket the proximity sensor should still notice it's covered and knock on wouldn't work. At least that's the premise.
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I can only think of one con of the knock on feature. I find that if I put my hand in my pocket or handle the phone without the intention of turning it on, sometimes part of my hand hits the screen twice and it will randomly turn on in my pocket or while in my hand. Not a big deal, I'm sure some software tweaks could fix the sensitivity.
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I have the exact same problem..
Not really when it's in the pocket but sometimes when I unmount my device from the car mount and put it in my pocket, I hold it with my thumb on the screen, leave the car and then dump it into my pocket. With my thumb on the screen, the screen turns on. The screen is especially sensitive since it's just been unplugged from the car charger.
This sucks, coz then it uses the capacitive screen sensor instead of the gyro sensor. It's not knockON. It's more like touchON.
Really hope someone or LG will come up with the tweaking of this.
I'vehad the Note 4 for a few days and the S-Pen feels quite loose to me. It can even move around a 1mm when in its silo.
I compared it to my friends Note 3 and it felt very tight. It also feels much more tight when inserted with no movement.
Anyone with the same problem?
I'm just concerned that it will get only worse.
My note 4 have no problem with spen
Try factory reset
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I had that problem this morning. I took my case off and reinsert the pen and now it's nice and sturdy again. Maybe the pen wasn't inserted all the way?
I double checked and it's all the way in. If I'm the only one I guess I got a defective one ...
honhan0904 said:
My note 4 have no problem with spen
Try factory reset
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Why would a factory reset do any help? lol. The pen is loose whilst in the phone!
Oh sorry i think it not responsive when touch on the phone
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samxxx99 said:
I double checked and it's all the way in. If I'm the only one I guess I got a defective one ...
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Try putting the pen in with the button facing down. Seems if it's facing up, it does jiggle a little.
It actually feels more firm with button facing down. But it doesn't solve the problem completely in my case
lol, same story here. just wanted to create a tread...
i have 3 note4's at the moment (due to display problems): 2 of them have loose spen, at one device it sits tight like on my note3!
a solution is to put one or two layers of transparent tape around the silver end of the s-pen, although i do not prefer this method
as it looks not good...
I decided to return my device on Thursday since it was actually bothering me, but funny thing is Samsung is still claiming it is not a defect and studying my case. They even went as far as show me another unit with the same problem.
I really hope upcoming batches will have it ironed out.
Does anyone know a solution in fixing the loose s-pen? The one with tape doesn't work out well, and is not really aesthetic...
Have you tried comparong inserting the S-Pen with the button facing up and facing down? I had the same problem on my 10.1 2014 and it was much tighter when the button was facing down in the case. I know it's not a solution, but it might help.
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Do about 20 jumping jax with phone in hand. If the spen slips out of place its a defect.
You could then argue it has s heath and should allow you to run with device.
Mine is snug, my Note 3 was a bit loose but it never fell out or anything. I guess if it's inside the silo and doesn't slip out with normal usage it's not a defect.
i added now one layer (one wrung around) of clear tape (which i do not like aesthetically!!), and now the spen sits tight.
button up or down didn't change anything for me...
now, with the pen tight, the device feels a lot more "solid", so for me the loose pen is a defect...
maybe adding a point of glue would also do the trick, i will experiment a little with that...
TML1504 said:
i added now one layer (one wrung around) of clear tape (which i do not like aesthetically!!), and now the spen sits tight.
button up or down didn't change anything for me...
now, with the pen tight, the device feels a lot more "solid", so for me the loose pen is a defect...
maybe adding a point of glue would also do the trick, i will experiment a little with that...
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Please don't use glue in your brand new device. Get it exchanged!
Can someone define 'loose s pen'? I put mine in pressed in all the way. If I wiggle my finger on it, it slight jiggles, but not to the point where it falls off. I have never noticed this on any note before. I wouldn't say its a defect, but more of an annoyance.
MattMJB0188 said:
Can someone define 'loose s pen'? I put mine in pressed in all the way. If I wiggle my finger on it, it slight jiggles, but not to the point where it falls off. I have never noticed this on any note before. I wouldn't say its a defect, but more of an annoyance.
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Sounds exactly like mine, I can wiggle it a bit, but it still feels like sits there and won't fall out anyway..
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Sounds exactly like mine, I can wiggle it a bit, but it still feels like sits there and won't fall out anyway..
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If you put it in the other way its snug. Or at least mine is.
S Pen included with my Note 4
Hi i have 2 seperate questions about the S Pen. 1st. Has anyone removed the button on the pen to try to adjust the potentiometers for sending the pen thinner or thicker? I saw a pic of a note 4 S Pen with the button removed on this forum somewhere 2 days ago & it showed the pen having 2 round very small adjustable screw like things & they where explaining which way to turn the front one to adjust it, but I removed my button just to look at it & in my S Pen there is no adjustment mechanisms at all & there's only one round thing total so I'm just curious to see whether it's the same for all note 4 buyers or not?
2nd. I thought I heard something about Samsung developing & very soon making available for sale a newer updated S Pen for the note 4 & note edge to include Rotation & Tilt which was originally supposed to be included with both phones on release days of each. Does anyone know any info at all about this?
S-Pen Warning
To all Note 5 users, please be aware of how you insert your spen.
If you slide the spen in backwards, it will get caught and you will not be able to recover the clicking mechanism. The pen will come out with force, but it will become broken in the process.
Redcyberhawk said:
To all Note 5 users, please be aware of how you insert your spen.
If you slide the spen in backwards, it will get caught and you will not be able to recover the clicking mechanism. The pen will come out with force, but it will become broken in the process.
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sounds like you got a defective one. I just slid mine in forward and backwards no issues.
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sounds like you got a defective one. I just slid mine in forward and backwards no issues.
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Probably phil. I just got it today as well and it's no longer functioning since the clicking mechanism came off, so hopefully a replacement phone will solve the issue.
No issues for me slide it both sides
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I'm guessing you mean backwards like as in upside down correct?
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Can you put oil in your fuel tank and see what happens?
It's true, and the worst part is that spen literally doesn't work, because the phone thinks the spen is inside. That is a pretty bad design flaw
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Also please take mine and the op work for it. Mine was barely in half way before I realized it was the wrong way and stuck. Some people maybe be lucky and get away with it, do you really want to render the spen useless, or even take a chance
I was reading this and it took me a minute. The clicking end was slid in first? Not sure if people need a warning for that. Sorry for your loss nonetheless.
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How do you put it in the wrong way?
Damnit! I just did this while reading xda. I just got this phone on the 22nd. Is this an issue with the S-pen or with actual phone? I'm wondering whether I should just return the phone and get a new phone...
I see what the OP means. Without the Samsung writing facing upwards the pen seems much harder to remove with some form of force. At least from what I just noticed ymmv
I believe OP means putting the pen in with the clicking part first, and the tip of the pen sticking out the bottom. My understanding is that the clicky part gets lodged inside and cannot be taken back out without pulling very hard and breaking it off of the pen.
Yeah can anyone provide some clarity on what OP is trying to say? Does he mean putting the pen in backwards as putting the pen in with the pointy side in first with the Samsung logo of the pen going in facing the camera side of the phone or what?
If you go into spen settings and disable spen detection you can still use spen. This maybe a no Brainer but I haven't used a note since note 2. All my phone's since has been nexus 5, HTC m8 (google play edition) and Nexus 6
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Yeah can anyone provide some clarity on what OP is trying to say? Does he mean putting the pen in backwards as putting the pen in with the pointy side in first with the Samsung logo of the pen going in facing the camera side of the phone or what?
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If you insert the spen with the clicking mechanism first, the clicking mechanism gets stuck inside the phone and when pulled out with force, breaks off the clicking mechanism rendering the spen completely useless forever, unless you tear open the phone to retrieve it.
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If you insert the spen with the clicking mechanism first, the clicking mechanism gets stuck inside the phone and when pulled out with force, breaks off the clicking mechanism rendering the spen completely useless forever, unless you tear open the phone to retrieve it.
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I use the S-pen regularly and have never once even come close to inserting it backwards. Is this even a thing? OP - were you using the phone in the pitch dark?
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I use the S-pen regularly and have never once even come close to inserting it backwards. Is this even a thing? OP - were you using the phone in the pitch dark?
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This was kind is my thought. I've only had the phone for a day but I don't see how you could put the pen in wrong.
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Redcyberhawk said:
If you insert the spen with the clicking mechanism first, the clicking mechanism gets stuck inside the phone and when pulled out with force, breaks off the clicking mechanism rendering the spen completely useless forever, unless you tear open the phone to retrieve it.
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Youve redefined the definition of n00b. Congratulations.
If it doesn't break off the end of the pen it will definitely break the small micro-switch that tells the phone the pen is removed. Kind of odd that it's even possible to stick it in backwards. People let their kids use these to doodle on.
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I use the S-pen regularly and have never once even come close to inserting it backwards. Is this even a thing? OP - were you using the phone in the pitch dark?
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On the note 3 and note 4, you can insert the stylus in backwards with no issues. I tried to see if that was the case, but it wasn't the case.