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Key differences between trigger 2.7 and bionix 1.3.1 ??

What is the difference between the two roms?
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A lot, and mostly things you (or 99%) of the people on here could explain.....
from an end-user, just try both and see which you prefer. Not hard to try one and then try another. I flashed 4 roms one day, and loved every moment.

s15274n said:
A lot, and mostly things you (or 99%) of the people on here could explain.....
from an end-user, just try both and see which you prefer. Not hard to try one and then try another. I flashed 4 roms one day, and loved every moment.
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Yep, just try both and see what works better for you. I have, and I like the Trigger 2.7 personally. Just seems "flashier" and shows off the phone a little better, in my opinion.
Both are VERY good ROMs and you can't go wrong with either

Tried both, can't tell the difference speed wise. Battery life is also good on both.
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For me the biggest difference between the two is level of "polish." They are both nice ROMs, but Trigger is just slightly better IMO in regards to the slickness and cosmetic appeal. As was stated above, it's the ROM to show off your phone to friends.
And I never experience any slow-downs or lagginess anywhere and I can't remember the last time I had a FC.
Trigger is the closest thing to my favorite ROM from my G1 days, SuperD.

Man I miss SuperD!!

s15274n said:
Man I miss SuperD!!
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I've still got it running on my G1
Beast of a ROM
(Trigger should not be compared to it!)

Just flash both, and see which one you like the most.
Then when CM7 is finally fully stable, and has great battery life, go to that.

Longcat14 said:
Just flash both, and see which one you like the most.
Then when CM7 is finally fully stable, and has great battery life, go to that.
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but then team whiskey will come out with 2.3 that is better. Cm7 is not really the best. I've tried a cm7 rom many times on different phones and there just not "Polished".

The TeamWhiskey will be a stock 2.3.
Compared to CM which has a bunch of speed improvements and options to enhance your phone!
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What's the best daily for battery & performance?

Ok, so currently I have my girlfriend on the CM9 beta 1 build... and it's ok... but it just isn't quite getting the battery life she would like. So here are the priorities:
1. Need longest battery life
2. Stability is second, but most important with things like google music and youtube.
3. General quickness
We both really like CM9, but I am starting to think she is losing battery faster than normal. I would like input from folks that have tried out almost all the roms and have found the best combo that meets the order of priorities listed. I am willing to go with an additional kernel if the advice is sound and compelling.
Thanks in advance... I would really like to get her on a good daily driver.

I think most people will tell u that each device handles things differently resulting in different battery life..
That being said, I think most would agree that our cm9 is probably not the best choice if battery life is a top priority.. personally, I get the best battery life with cm7, I would recomend that, and if u start feeling saucy, throw a custom kernel on there too for undervolting with voltage control.
If she prefers something touchwiz, there's a lot of good options, try gleangb
As always, wipe data cache and dalvik in cwm before flashing her from cm9 to anything gingerbread.
Good luck!
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Clean gb
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+1 clean gb

lbe said:
+1 clean gb
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+1000...and everything just works.

If it is a woman, cleangb.
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Cleangb. For sure

If it is a woman, cleangb.<br />
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Lulz! +1 on that. Clean gb battery life is pretty amazing too.
Miui v4 has been pretty good for me also. Miui gingerbread was some of the best battery life i ever had though.
Running aokp for the past few days, and that seems pretty damn good too. Just got it updated, supercharged, samurai'd and undervolted, so we'll see how the next couple days go.
Lots of choices. Drive em all for a day or two and see which gives you the best mileage.
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Marcusantrom gets me pretty good battery life, Lasts all day

lbe said:
+1 clean gb
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kennyglass123 said:
+1000...and everything just works.
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+1000000 I keep going back to cleanGB-

Wow... thanks everyone... CleanGB it will be. Im curious as to why they have gone over a month with no updates?

I think part of it is there isn't much to update. It's a stripped down, optimized 'cleangb', not '50,000 tweaks, hacks, and new features every 5 minutes gb'.

You stop when you get it right. Certain tweaks react differently on each phone so Toadlife leaves those to the user to decide what is right for them.

Man I haven't been on a tw based ROM in ages!!
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cleangb might have good battery. but if ur cool, miui gb is the real deal

edufur said:
Wow... thanks everyone... CleanGB it will be. Im curious as to why they have gone over a month with no updates?
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The chef for this ROM, (toadlife) hasn't posted anthing on the forums since March 1st. I think he's busy with other things.

Hybrid CM10/Paranoid or CM10 Kang? Pros, Cons, etc.

So I have been off of here for a while and saw CM10 up and thought that was amazing...Then i saw the hybrid one and got confused. I'm going to upgrade to one of them but have no clue which one to go to. So I am trying to figure out the pros and cons of each (battery life, annoying bugs, customization, stability, etc). PLEASE no comments like "Hybrid is amazing! forget Kang!" or vice versa...that gives me absolutely no information.

Try them yourself, that's the best answer.
Both are constantly updating so no talking about stability or bugs for now...
So if choice's upon me I'd have that ParanoidAndroid (hybrid) 'cuz I just love tablet UI AND I don't even use any cellular functions of E4G. You can choose to your likings like me too. Hope you finally get attached to one of them, welcome to Jelly Bean!

mrleprechaunboy said:
So I have been off of here for a while and saw CM10 up and thought that was amazing...Then i saw the hybrid one and got confused. I'm going to upgrade to one of them but have no clue which one to go to. So I am trying to figure out the pros and cons of each (battery life, annoying bugs, customization, stability, etc). PLEASE no comments like "Hybrid is amazing! forget Kang!" or vice versa...that gives me absolutely no information.
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CM10 Kang is near flawless. Only issue I have is roaming doesn't work. There is a work around where you can use the stock kexec boot to enable roaming and then boot back into CM10. This doesn't really help me tho as I live in an area where I'm not quite roaming and not quite on sprint's towers depending on where I am in my house. I use roam control to force roaming so I get 3 bars.
Hmmm seems like I'm *****ing but I'm not, this problem really only affects me. If you live in an area with decent signal go the Kang'd route, all the CM10 features and OMG is this ROM snappy!!!!! Even with the roaming thing it's still my daily driver and I just deal with poor signal at home because the ROM is worth it.

Since we're on the topic of CM10, does media through a BT headset work?
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jeffreyjicha said:
Since we're on the topic of CM10, does media through a BT headset work?
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Go to the CM10 thread in development section, general doesn't get much attention.

mrleprechaunboy said:
So I have been off of here for a while and saw CM10 up and thought that was amazing...Then i saw the hybrid one and got confused. I'm going to upgrade to one of them but have no clue which one to go to. So I am trying to figure out the pros and cons of each (battery life, annoying bugs, customization, stability, etc). PLEASE no comments like "Hybrid is amazing! forget Kang!" or vice versa...that gives me absolutely no information.
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I'm on Paranoid now.. compared to CM9.. PA/CM10's battery life is much better. But...ehh.. about an hour of the day my cpu is running min: 1000Mhz for my GTA .....play long enough nd GTA eats your battery for breakfast, lunch nd dinner.

AndyYan said:
Go to the CM10 thread in development section, general doesn't get much attention.
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That's not true. Most users left here check general and Q&A as well as development.
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It's really more about personal preference. PA=CM+framework changes+app to control those changes. If you want to take tons of time to get exactly what you want, PA is the way to go. If you want a simpler experience, with fewer worries due to the extreme level of control, go with CM.

so pretty much as far as battery life, possible bugs (if any), snappyness, etc., they are pretty much equal. just paranoid has alot more customization? I would have tried both already but there is some bug on my laptop that wont let me transfer files from my laptop to anything D:

APN & MMS Fix for ParanoidAndroid ROM
Hi everyone, when i first installed this rom everything worked lawlessly except that my MMS wasnt working so I went ahead and spent some time trying to figure out the solution until i got it check out my post on the general section for instructions and files please let me know if this worked for you

How's the battery life compared to CM9, CM7 and touchwiz?

Nexus 4 - CM10.1 Pros Cons

Looking for feedback on CM10.1 vs. sticking with the stock ROM. I've used CM10.1 on my GS3 , but wondering what the advantages are of using it on the N4.

Being that you have used both stock build and cm10 you should be able to judge which works better for you.
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pros: added features, fixes bugs from the stock ROM
cons: none
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The pros are the same as your galaxy. It's the same rom
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Does the Google voice integration work the same (ie when it takes over the phone and messaging functions completely)
Sorry to jump on this, but I'm considering the same largely for battery and some tweaking options.
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emailrob said:
Does the Google voice integration work the same (ie when it takes over the phone and messaging functions completely)
Sorry to jump on this, but I'm considering the same largely for battery and some tweaking options.
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yes it works the same. you can set it to do that if you choose to, if not u can disable it.

The only con is a slightly slower Android upgrade path. Having said that, 2-3 weeks max (for a Nexus device) isn't that long to wait. Beats all the manufacturers.

Ajfink said:
The only con is a slightly slower Android upgrade path. Having said that, 2-3 weeks max (for a Nexus device) isn't that long to wait. Beats all the manufacturers.
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Not really. When CM does get updated to the next version of Android, Nexus devices are the first to get it on CM whereas other devices will take longer (and things may not be working day one for other phones whereas Nexus it will be working from day one, just not all the CM goodies will be available right away as it'll take time to port them over)
Alternatively, people may flash non-CM roms and just a AOSP version of the new Android to try out new features etc etc

My biggest consideration is battery , I'm not impressed with my battery hardly making it through a 8 hours of the day.

ksujace said:
My biggest consideration is battery , I'm not impressed with my battery hardly making it through a 8 hours of the day.
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CM10 will most definitely help you out with that. Some people have been getting weird Android OS or Mediaserver troubles that eat away at their battery with stock 4.2.1. How many hours of screen on time are you getting?

ksujace said:
My biggest consideration is battery , I'm not impressed with my battery hardly making it through a 8 hours of the day.
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Kernel plays a bigger role in battery conservation more than a ROM. People always gets mixed between the two.
To fix battery problems,
1) Ensure Google Latitude is off (it's in Google Maps). Disable automatic reporting of location and all the other checks in that menu.
2) Flash a ROM that meets your requirements (there is no BEST ROM).
3) Flash a Kernel that meets your requirements based upon feedback and past experiences (there is no BEST KERNEL).
4) Install BetterBatteryStats @ http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179809
5) Use BetterBatteryStats to ensure there are no kernel and partial wakelocks. If there are debug them. Ensure that your phone is indeed deep sleeping (use BetterBatteryStats to look at CPUStates or download CPUSpy from Play Store).
I recommend CM10.1 Jellybro + Franco Kernel, but that's based on my own personal opinions. Look around the dev forums and decide what you like the most
Edit: Oh yeah, how could I forget... go into Google Now and disable the cards you don't need.

zephiK said:
Kernel plays a bigger role in battery conservation more than a ROM. People always gets mixed between the two.
To fix battery problems,
1) Ensure Google Latitude is off (it's in Google Maps). Disable automatic reporting of location and all the other checks in that menu.
2) Flash a ROM that meets your requirements (there is no BEST ROM).
3) Flash a Kernel that meets your requirements based upon feedback and past experiences (there is no BEST KERNEL).
4) Install BetterBatteryStats @ http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179809
5) Use BetterBatteryStats to ensure there are no kernel and partial wakelocks. If there are debug them. Ensure that your phone is indeed deep sleeping (use BetterBatteryStats to look at CPUStates or download CPUSpy from Play Store).
I recommend CM10.1 Jellybro + Franco Kernel, but that's based on my own personal opinions. Look around the dev forums and decide what you like the most
Edit: Oh yeah, how could I forget... go into Google Now and disable the cards you don't need.
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+1 for CM10.1 Jellybro + Franco. I've also used MiNCO ROM which is pretty good, but not a ton of features yet so I'm sticking with CM10.1

Installed CM10.1 , seems there is more real estate (5 icons across vs 4?) ...
anyone else had the problem where you can't create app folders on the home screen?

Hey what is CM10.1 JellyBro?
Is it the nightly CM 10,1?

ksujace said:
Installed CM10.1 , seems there is more real estate (5 icons across vs 4?) ...
anyone else had the problem where you can't create app folders on the home screen?
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I hear that's an issue on the latest nightly. I'm sure they'll address that in the upcoming nightly.

mediumsteak said:
Hey what is CM10.1 JellyBro?
Is it the nightly CM 10,1?
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It's the same thing as CM10.1 but including cherry picks.
Cherry picks are unmerged features that are currently pending/awaiting approval from CM. They are implemented within Jellybro before official nightlies get them. It is a very stable ROM and uses the same sources as CM. So whatsever in CM10.1 is in Jellybro, just jellybro has extras (very minimal)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2015081 is the thread.

mediumsteak said:
Hey what is CM10.1 JellyBro?
Is it the nightly CM 10,1?
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Check it out ...
JellyBro link
It's basically CM 10.1 with some cherry picks (additions) that either get merged into CM or they are removed because they become obsolete

dmorand said:
I hear that's an issue on the latest nightly. I'm sure they'll address that in the upcoming nightly.
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It's fixed in 12/27.
To elaborate on dmorand,
If cherry picks disappear, it's because they were merged, abandoned or conflict with the current source or other cherry picks.
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not only because they are 'obsolete' (not really obsolete but abandoned)

I heard from my friend that CM isn't as stable as stock but does have the added features. Can anyone confirm about CM's stability as to stock?

mgkrp said:
I heard from my friend that CM isn't as stable as stock but does have the added features. Can anyone confirm about CM's stability as to stock?
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that's only the case on devices that weren't made to run aosp android, such as HTC (sense), Samsung (touchwiz), motorolla (motoblur). on nexus devices that natively run stock android, cm works id say 99% perfectly. and usually if there is a "bug" its cosmetic and doesn't affect the functionality of the phone one bit, and once reported by a user it gets fixed pretty fast (within the next few nightlies) :beer:
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[Q] Optimal Setup for Nexus 4?

Hi!
I got my Nexus 4 three days ago.
My Usage Specs -
I use my N4 mainly for internet ( WiFi, sometimes 2G ) and a little bit of gaming. I make occasional calls and text rarely.
I don't use WhatsApp or Facebook.
I'm using STOCK ROM+Kernel.
I'm getting around 10-12 hours of battery life, with 4-5 hours of screen-on time.
Now, I want to be able to over/under clock & volt my CPU+GPU. This is to increase battery life and increase performance, as required.
It looks like too much choice is very confusing. So, I'd like some experienced suggestions and recommendations.
So, which _ should I use? ( And, I've already narrowed down the choices a bit )
Kernel - Faux, Motley, Franco
ROM - AOSP(Stock), CyanogenMod, Paranoid Android, Xylon
Also, should I use Battery, CPU, RAM managers? If so, which ones?
What are some cool, useful N4 specific apps?
Any other tweaks and tips? - You can link to other xda threads, if available.
I will be unlocking and rooting tomorrow, once I decide which kernel+ROM to use.
Thanks!

Ram and battery managers are not necessary. You have 2GB of ram. Battery saver apps do not work. besides you said you're getting 4-5 hours of screen time. That's great!
Download greenify. It's a great app.
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OP, "best ROM/kernel" questions are not allowed here. You will have to experiment and see.

scream4cheese said:
Ram and battery managers are not necessary. You have 2GB of ram. Battery saver apps do not work. besides you said you're getting 4-5 hours of screen time. That's great!
Download greenify. It's a great app.
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That's cleared up some of my doubt. Thanks!
I'll try out greenify, too.

estallings15 said:
OP, "best ROM/kernel" questions are not allowed here. You will have to experiment and see.
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Hi,
I understand that you are trying to prevent flame-wars and the like, however, I'm not looking for 'the best kernel/ROM'.
I want to know which combinations and configs other people have used, and I'd like some experienced suggestions.
I'm finding it confusing to differentiate between the variety of kernels and roms available, so I wanted some recommendations - preferably, with reasons.
Thanks!

arvindch said:
Hi,
understand that you are trying to prevent flame-wars and the like, however, I'm not looking for 'the best kernel/ROM'.
I want to know which combinations and configs other people have used, and I'd like some experienced suggestions.
I'm finding it confusing to differentiate between the variety of kernels and roms available, so I wanted some recommendations - preferably, with reasons.
Thanks!
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I use Paranoid Android with its stock kernel. For me, no other rom can compare to Pa on the nexus 4! Not even cyanogen mod is as fluid, stable, and efficient. With my current setup I get around 16 hours battery life (5:30 am-11ish pm), with ~5 hours screen on time. I don't use any task killers or memory managers. I just make sure to force close all my apps when I'm done with them, and I reboot the phone every 24 hours to keep it at its maximum performance. Although my usage is slightly different. I use my phone mainly to browse the Web, text and occasionally snap some pictures and check instagram. Hopefully this helps you out a bit

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brandonc0526 said:
I use Paranoid Android with its stock kernel. For me, no other rom can compare to Pa on the nexus 4! Not even cyanogen mod is as fluid, stable, and efficient. With my current setup I get around 16 hours battery life (5:30 am-11ish pm), with ~5 hours screen on time. I don't use any task killers or memory managers. I just make sure to force close all my apps when I'm done with them, and I reboot the phone every 24 hours to keep it at its maximum performance. Although my usage is slightly different. I use my phone mainly to browse the Web, text and occasionally snap some pictures and check instagram. Hopefully this helps you out a bit
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Thanks! This is exactly the sort of information I was hoping for.
I think I'll try out PA today.
Also, Have you tried other kernels?

arvindch said:
Thanks! This is exactly the sort of information I was hoping for.
I think I'll try out PA today.
Also, Have you tried other kernels?
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Trinity and Franco kernel works great with PA. And so does semaphore. I use Franco kernel mainly because I get more screen time than any other kernel I've used. Franco kernel delivers a balance between smoothness and great battery life.
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scream4cheese said:
Trinity and Franco kernel works great with PA. And so does semaphore. I use Franco kernel mainly because I get more screen time than any other kernel I've used. Franco kernel delivers a balance between smoothness and great battery life.
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Okay, and you use PA too?
Also, how does the kernel affect smoothness? Shouldn't the performance be the same as long as you don't change clock speeds? Or is it due to the new governors that the kernel uses?
Also, what about motley kernel? The thread is very spartan, and I can't glean much info about it.
Has anyone tried Xylon? - it looks efficient.

arvindch said:
Okay, and you use PA too?
Also, how does the kernel affect smoothness? Shouldn't the performance be the same as long as you don't change clock speeds? Or is it due to the new governors that the kernel uses?
Also, what about motley kernel? The thread is very spartan, and I can't glean much info about it.
Has anyone tried Xylon? - it looks efficient.
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I've tried the Franco kernel before but I find the stock PA one to be perfect as far as colors go. I've never had an issue with smoothness using it and I don't even worry about clock speed or governors. As far as xylon goes, I found it to be very washed out using the stock kernel that comes with the rom, again in terms of display. When I ran xylon for a few days, I ran into a few hiccups in performance that weren't acknowledged, even when running with different kernels. I've also tried AOKP, Cyanogen, and axiom, but I always return back to paranoid

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I've tried the Franco kernel before but I find the stock PA one to be perfect as far as colors go. I've never had an issue with smoothness using it and I don't even worry about clock speed or governors. As far as xylon goes, I found it to be very washed out using the stock kernel that comes with the rom, again in terms of display. When I ran xylon for a few days, I ran into a few hiccups in performance that weren't acknowledged, even when running with different kernels. I've also tried AOKP, Cyanogen, and axiom, but I always return back to paranoid
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Okay, thanks. I'll experiment a bit, and see how it goes.
I've used PA before, on a HTC One V. It looks great, IMO too,

Try the matrix kernal
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HI!
So I have experimented and tested most of the major kernels and ROMs.
AND..... My selection/combo for now is:
kernel - Franco Milestone 2
ROM - Carbon 1.7
I tried Paranoid Android, but I didn't really like their interface adjustments.
And, just CyanogenMod is boring, IMO. Xylon, too.
Carbon has great customisation, and the specific adjustments that I like.
Thanks for the help!
Others - feel free to continue post your suggestions and recommendations for kernel+ROM combos.

arvindch said:
HI!
So I have experimented and tested most of the major kernels and ROMs.
AND..... My selection/combo for now is:
kernel - Franco Milestone 2
ROM - Carbon 1.7
I tried Paranoid Android, but I didn't really like their interface adjustments.
And, just CyanogenMod is boring, IMO. Xylon, too.
Carbon has great customisation, and the specific adjustments that I like.
Thanks for the help!
Others - feel free to continue post your suggestions and recommendations for kernel+ROM combos.
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Why not Franco R140? It's stable and a lot has changed since M2

sigma392 said:
Why not Franco R140? It's stable and a lot has changed since M2
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Oh, I wasn't really sure whether it was stable, so I went with the milestone release.
Also, What are prime drivers?
Thanks!

arvindch said:
Oh, I wasn't really sure whether it was stable, so I went with the milestone release.
Also, What are prime drivers?
Thanks!
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Drivers with code from Code Aurora. They *may* fix stuff like slow WiFi speeds and delayed notifications. I personally use them but if you don't experience any problem with WiFi then I suggest flashing the normal ones. :fingers-crossed:

Try Matr1x kernel, gave me the best results when I tried through different ones.

sigma392 said:
Drivers with code from Code Aurora. They *may* fix stuff like slow WiFi speeds and delayed notifications. I personally use them but if you don't experience any problem with WiFi then I suggest flashing the normal ones. :fingers-crossed:
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I think I'll use the normal ones.
My internet speed is 4 Mbps and I don't use my WiFi to transfer files at all.
At the moment I'm getting the speeds I can technically get. So those won't help me, I guess.
Also, I've been running R140 without any problems for the last day.
Thanks!

I Am Marino said:
Try Matr1x kernel, gave me the best results when I tried through different ones.
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Really? Maybe I will.
How is battery life and performance compared to franco kernel?

arvindch said:
Really? Maybe I will.
How is battery life and performance compared to franco kernel?
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They're pretty much the same really. But Matr1x does wonders in benchmarks. I would love to use it however I need those Prima Drivers badly :S