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Alternate charger options?

The charger is absolute CRAP. 3 feet long and cant be powered by usb? WTF?
Any idea how I can fix this? Longer one or a adapter or something? Id prefer to charge from my laptop/desktop

anything from bestbuy? need a fix asap

Yeah, no idea why it's so short... really annoying. you could try an extension cable?
http://www.amazon.com/Belkin-F3U134...ZWXA/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1308614970&sr=8-1

Oh, btw, you CAN charge via USB, but it's just reaaaaally slow. If you use the tab while plugged in, you might not even gain charge... just slow it down. The battery in the 10.1 requires much higher amperage than USB can provide.

Just an FYI. A regular USB 2.0 extension cable wouldn't work with the Transformer (which also has a short data cable). USB 3.0 extension cables reportedly worked though.

USB charging

I've noticed when I have my tablet plugged into my computer via USB it doesn't appear to be charging. The battery icon is showing a red lightning bolt. This is different than when I have my tab plugged into a wall socket.
Working as intended or..?

Your PC USB port can't supply enough juice (500ma max) compare to your wall socket (>2000ma) to charge while power the tab. Turn the tab off and your will get some charge off the USB port.

foxbat121 said:
Your PC USB port can't supply enough juice (500ma max) compare to your wall socket (>2000ma) to charge while power the tab. Turn the tab off and your will get some charge off the USB port.
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Good to know! thanks for your help

just be prepaired to wait a while to gain any % hahaha

Order one of these and then you can charge it from your PC/laptop... or any other USB port for that matter:
USB charger Adapter Cable For Samsung GALAXY Tab p1000

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Order one of these and then you can charge it from your PC/laptop... or any other USB port for that matter:
USB charger Adapter Cable For Samsung GALAXY Tab p1000
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That adapter does not convert the power, as stated by foxbat, usb from pc won't deliver enough power.

can use this cable... Y TYPE USB CABLE A MALE to A FEMALE CONNECTOR 2 TO 1. enough power now? y can find it on bay...

ebk71 said:
That adapter does not convert the power, as stated by foxbat, usb from pc won't deliver enough power.
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It's been charging my tab for about a month now with no problems at all, but I'm not here to argue, if you feel that you know more than I do. I've charged the tablet using that adapter from my laptop, PC, and Energizer XP4001 Power Pack.
You might also search the forums, as I'm not the only one to recommend and use this item.

USB Charger
Have also use this USB charger Adapter Cable For Samsung GALAXY Tab p1000. Works great.

currently having thea similiar,but not same problem; bought this cable of of amazon http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005EAEQR4 and while icon indicates its charging, % is not going up at all, mayb 1% per hour or so... am ready to return it, but want to know if anyone else is experiencing similiar problems with a longer cable?
thanks

foxbat121 said:
Your PC USB port can't supply enough juice (500ma max) compare to your wall socket (>2000ma) to charge while power the tab. Turn the tab off and your will get some charge off the USB port.
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Ahh thanks! Was wondering why it wouldn't charge via my USB port.
(In fact using my Samsung Focus USB adapter for the outlet doesn't seem to work either... I need to use only the Samsung Tab USB adapter)

marcham93 said:
Ahh thanks! Was wondering why it wouldn't charge via my USB port.
(In fact using my Samsung Focus USB adapter for the outlet doesn't seem to work either... I need to use only the Samsung Tab USB adapter)
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The focus charger is rated only about 700ma (same exact one as Captivate/SGS), marginablly better than PC USB. GT 10.1 has a rather large battery and hence it requires much larger charge current. You don't see any laptop get charged via USB, do you?

jaoropez said:
currently having thea similiar,but not same problem; bought this cable of of amazon http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005EAEQR4 and while icon indicates its charging, % is not going up at all, mayb 1% per hour or so... am ready to return it, but want to know if anyone else is experiencing similiar problems with a longer cable?
thanks
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Is that through the orginal AC adapter or through PC USB?

Turning off the tablet and charging it via USB works, but it takes forever!

SacTilt said:
It's been charging my tab for about a month now with no problems at all, but I'm not here to argue, if you feel that you know more than I do. I've charged the tablet using that adapter from my laptop, PC, and Energizer XP4001 Power Pack.
You might also search the forums, as I'm not the only one to recommend and use this item.
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And you are not the only one who is waiting twice as long before his tab is fully charged. Then we can open a topic "Why does it take so long before my tab is charged?" As foxbat stated: You don't see any laptop get charged via USB, do you?
So if I say your adapter doesn't work its just as accurate as your answer it does work.

ebk71 said:
And you are not the only one who is waiting twice as long before his tab is fully charged. Then we can open a topic "Why does it take so long before my tab is charged?" As foxbat stated: You don't see any laptop get charged via USB, do you?
So if I say your adapter doesn't work its just as accurate as your answer it does work.
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Hey, I'm not here to argue with you. I'm just an idiot.
Go about your business, and don't listen. I'm ok with that.

First of all, not all USB ports are equal.
On many modern PCs, the USB ports can deliver more than 500mA over USB if required. This is definitely true for pretty much all Macs since 2007, and quite a few mainboards from other manufacturers (see this article for some background).
Secondly, I've had one of these adaptors for quite a while now, and have used it regularly to charge my Galaxy Tab 7" which uses exactly the same power supply and cables as the GT 10.1. I can categorically state that when using this adaptor, it the GT7 does charge from a Macbook Air and a 5000mAh external battery that has a 1A output USB port labelled for an iPad.
Whilst it might not be as quick as the wall charger, it is definitely much faster than attempting to charge the GT7 from the same devices without the adaptor, even if the device is in use.
I've not formally tried to charge my GT10.1 with it yet, but I did check to see if the "not-charging" indicator went away (which it did), so I rather presume it will work much like the GT7.
Regards,
Dave

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Hey, I'm not here to argue with you. I'm just an idiot.
Go about your business, and don't listen. I'm ok with that.
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You don't need to embarrass yourself by saying you're an idiot, It's very childish and the second time you mention I'm supposed to be smarter then you. I'm sorry you take this so personally.

i just use the supplied cable and it charges via usb on my computer. it shows not charging, but it basically trickle charges when the tab is both on and off

Forgot my OEM usb charger in a hotel..

Hi,
I have forgot my Asus oem usb cable in a hotel in San Francisco., The charger is not available on google playstore, i really just need the cable and I dontwant to use a normal usb cable because it takes hours to charge..
Anyone know where i can buy such cable?
I need a cable with this output:
AC INPUT
110V-240V
DC OUTPUT
5Vdc/2A
PLUG
North American NEMA 1-15 plug (standard 2 prong US plug)

Malarie said:
Hi,
I have forgot my Asus oem usb cable in a hotel in San Francisco., The charger is not available on google playstore, i really just need the cable and I dontwant to use a normal usb cable because it takes hours to charge..
Anyone know where i can buy such cable?
I need a cable with this output:
AC INPUT
110V-240V
DC OUTPUT
5Vdc/2A
PLUG
North American NEMA 1-15 plug (standard 2 prong US plug)
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I got this one as a "spare" to keep at work. Works perfectly with the N7. I did have to get a micro USB cable to go with it and the Galaxy Tab cable is a throw-away....but still. Charger itself works awesome.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005XPXHCU

ExploreMN said:
I got this one as a "spare" to keep at work. Works perfectly with the N7. I did have to get a micro USB cable to go with it and the Galaxy Tab cable is a throw-away....but still. Charger itself works awesome.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005XPXHCU
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Thanks you very miuch for the reply
Does any micro usb cable works with the OEM charger? Cause i still have the plug connector, i really just need the cable..

Malarie said:
Thanks you very miuch for the reply
Does any micro usb cable works with the OEM charger? Cause i still have the plug connector, i really just need the cable..
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Yeah, any cable should work for charging. Usually it's data that is a problem because sometimes cables won't have those pins even connected.

The charger is available in the play store its $25 I just double checked
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Taking one for the team. Nice. Whenever I go to hotels and forget my charger I can always get one at reception.

ExploreMN said:
Yeah, any cable should work for charging. Usually it's data that is a problem because sometimes cables won't have those pins even connected.
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Why do some companies insist on supplying crippled USB cables?
On where to get them, any mobile (cell) phone shop should have micro USB. Just about every maker – with the exception, of course, of Apple – has switched to this connector for charging and data.

[Q] Pogo pins and OTG question [simultaneous charge & OTG?]

I'm wondering if anyone knows if it's possible to have simultaneous OTG & charging with the use of a pogo pin charger?
For instance, plug in a usb OTG into the main microUSB charging port, and use a pogo pin charger [either make one or buy when they are available], and have a flash drive, or hard drive plugged in, and charge at the same time with the pogo pin connector?
I used to have a Nexus 7, and via a custom kernel, and a OTG charging cable [basically a regular OTG with additional power wires & connector for charger]. But I think it would be simpler to use the pogo pin approach. The only thing I'm worried of however, the kernel might disable OTG while it charges via pogo, or perhaps disable charging while OTG is enabled. I guess in this case, we would need a modified kernel to achieve simultaneous OTG and charging.

Here is a link to one of the first Nexus 10 pogo charger cables and it makes this claim:
"You still can power Nexus 10 while the USB port is otherwise occupied for data uses. It is fun & convenient to have MagNector to free up the USB port and charge faster."
http://www.ebay.com/itm/MagNector-N...ader_Chargers_Sync_Cables&hash=item20ce4990a6
So if that statement is true than the answer to your question is Yes.

eBay item is no longer available..
However, I know how sellers often make unfounded claims like that. So while it's probably a good sign, I am not convinced it's true. If anyone is fortunate enough to have a pogo charger, could you test it out with a otg cable and let us know the results?
Or if you're a kernel hacker, maybe take a look at the kernel source code and tell me what you think?
Also if anyone has a link where I could read about pogo pins for the N10, I'd like to read it. I'm interested in trying to make one, if they don't make any low-cost ones in the near future.

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mvmacd said:
eBay item is no longer available..
However, I know how sellers often make unfounded claims like that. So while it's probably a good sign, I am not convinced it's true. If anyone is fortunate enough to have a pogo charger, could you test it out with a otg cable and let us know the results?
Or if you're a kernel hacker, maybe take a look at the kernel source code and tell me what you think?
Also if anyone has a link where I could read about pogo pins for the N10, I'd like to read it. I'm interested in trying to make one, if they don't make any low-cost ones in the near future.
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The answer to the question is ye, you can charge and use otg. Btw, http://pogocable.com/ 20$ isn't a bad price...

lKBZl said:
The answer to the question is ye, you can charge and use otg. Btw, http://pogocable.com/ 20$ isn't a bad price...
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Just wondering, have you actually tried it yet? I remember on the n7 it would disable pogo charging when you plugged in otg. I hope n10 is different.
Swiped from my Nexus 10 using xda-developers app

I got the pogo cable in today. I plugged the usb-otg cable into the Nexus 10 with a thumbdrive connected to it. Stickmount recognized the thumbdrive and I can read/write to it. I noticed that the battery runs down while the otg is plugged in though. Running Paranoidandroid 2.99 with whatever kernel comes with that.

bd177 said:
I got the pogo cable in today. I plugged the usb-otg cable into the Nexus 10 with a thumbdrive connected to it. Stickmount recognized the thumbdrive and I can read/write to it. I noticed that the battery runs down while the otg is plugged in though. Running Paranoidandroid 2.99 with whatever kernel comes with that.
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Does it say "Charging (USB)" or "Charging (AC)" in Settings > Battery?

mvmacd said:
Does it say "Charging (USB)" or "Charging (AC)" in Settings > Battery?
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It says "Charging (AC)"

I know it's not the original question, but it looks like that would be possible with a modified OTG USB cable. Sounds like you already have something similar.
I was thinking about this for using my n10 for larger video recording when away from wifi. Just need to hook a battery up to the OTG while its plugged into the thumb drive. It takes a charge off my laptop when connected via the otg usb, so it should work as well with the correct setup voltage/wiring .
I would also like to know the pin designation for the pogo plug. If you can do the same setup as the one above, with the pogo... There would be less chance of damage to the tablet on the go......

metaled222 said:
I know it's not the original question, but it looks like that would be possible with a modified OTG USB cable. Sounds like you already have something similar.
I was thinking about this for using my n10 for larger video recording when away from wifi. Just need to hook a battery up to the OTG while its plugged into the thumb drive. It takes a charge off my laptop when connected via the otg usb, so it should work as well with the correct setup voltage/wiring .
I would also like to know the pin designation for the pogo plug. If you can do the same setup as the one above, with the pogo... There would be less chance of damage to the tablet on the go......
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I know a nonstandard OTG cable [a OTG charging cable, basically the same as a regular one, except it has female USB only connected to the charging pins] and a modded kernel allowed for simultaneous OTG + charge on the Nexus 7, but I'd rather not have to deal with that, as getting a separate pogo charger seems like a better option.

mvmacd said:
I know a nonstandard OTG cable [a OTG charging cable, basically the same as a regular one, except it has female USB only connected to the charging pins] and a modded kernel allowed for simultaneous OTG + charge on the Nexus 7, but I'd rather not have to deal with that, as getting a separate pogo charger seems like a better option.
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It has to be a moded kernel to access the data in read/write mode? Nothing to do with charging, and correct?
What I was considering is a battery/usb hub combo. One that plugs into the micro usb port and the battery actually has a female usb port for the thumb drive (need root to write to the drive, but not to stream from it). Amazon carries lots of external batteries with micro usb connection and the female usb port.
I agree, the pogo would be much simpler and still allow data through the micro usb.
The pogo would be much better for portability for this type of use especially if it allows for faster charging. If no one has the pin layout, guess I'll wait to get mine and test them myself. 6 pins on the n10 itself so it's not a standard usb pin setup?

metaled222 said:
It has to be a moded kernel to access the data in read/write mode? Nothing to do with charging, and correct?
What I was considering is a battery/usb hub combo. One that plugs into the micro usb port and the battery actually has a female usb port for the thumb drive (need root to write to the drive, but not to stream from it). Amazon carries lots of external batteries with micro usb connection and the female usb port.
I agree, the pogo would be much simpler and still allow data through the micro usb.
The pogo would be much better for portability for this type of use especially if it allows for faster charging. If no one has the pin layout, guess I'll wait to get mine and test them myself. 6 pins on the n10 itself so it's not a standard usb pin setup?
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No, on the Nexus 7, if you plug in a OTG cable [which basically grounds a certain pin, the only difference between micro OTG and micro to full size USB adapter], it disables charging through power pins, because it needs to send power to OTG device, for example, a flash drive. It needs +5V power.
So the kernel mod was to disable the output of power, so that it could instead receive power and charge, from the charger. [The charger also 100% powering the OTG device]
Even if you have an externally powered hard drive, it needs power to turn on, even if it uses a wall adapter for the actual power to run the device.
Here is the kernel I was talking about: http://mehrvarz.github.com/usb-host-mode-power-management-nexus7/
it was made by a rootzwiki user. some discussion here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1934722
Check the images of the USB hub on the 1st link.

Just for the heck of it I plugged a USB cable connected to my PC into the Nexus 10 while the pogo was also connected. The Nexus 10 showed up on the PC as it normally does in the file explorer and I can transfer files back and forth as usual. I went to Settings -> Battery on the Nexus 10 and it showed "Charging AC". I then unplugged the pogo cable and the status changed to "Charging USB". Plugged the pogo back in and the status switched back to "Charging AC". Then to make sure the pogo was actually doing the charging, I watched 2 hours of Netflix with the screen set to full brightness. The battery went down only 2%, so I'm pretty sure the pogo was doing the charging.

Sv: [Q] Pogo pins and OTG question [simultaneous charge & OTG?]
Thanks for your test. However with Nexus 10 connected to pc it is not in otg/host mode. You need to connect for example an usb memory with a otg cable to test if charging work with host mode enabled. There seems to be some discussions going on claiming pogo charging is disabled in host mode on Nexus 10 as well. It would be really really stupid if that's the case and I can't for the world figure out how they could put this limitation in the kernel.
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Johan1976 said:
Thanks for your test. However with Nexus 10 connected to pc it is not in otg/host mode. You need to connect for example an usb memory with a otg cable to test if charging work with host mode enabled. There seems to be some discussions going on claiming pogo charging is disabled in host mode on Nexus 10 as well. It would be really really stupid if that's the case and I can't for the world figure out how they could put this limitation in the kernel.
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Yes I tried that and the pogo would not charge.
EDIT: I bought a couple of OTG Y-cables on ebay (1 male micro usb end, 1 female micro usb end and a female usb end) to play around with when I saw they had a fix for the Nexus 7. I tried one on my Nexus 7 (PA rom and Timur kernel), connecting the female usb to a powered usb hub that has 16gb sdhc card plugged into it. Then connected the female micro usb end to a spare micro usb charging cable and the other end of the charging cable to the usb hub. The male micro usb end gets connected to the Nexus 7. I fired up the Nexus 7 while in the Asus pogo dock I bought for it and it charges the Nexus 7 while also allowing the OTG connection. I tried the same setup with my Nexus 10 (PA Rom, Ktoonez kernel) and pogo cable and it worked. The Nexus 10 charges through the pogo cable while the OTG works also. With the usb hub I'm using with the Nexus 10, I had to plug the charging cable into a charger wall wart. I don't think the old hub was putting out enough power to power the usb device. I let them both run over a day like this. Ran some RomToolBox app backups on both them and they both are charging on the pogo pins while doing so. If you go to system settings -> battery it shows "Charging AC" on both.

The galaxy nexus already has a custom kernel that supports OTG + charging (via a y-cable):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1835720
In that thread (and the link in the OP there) there are discussions about porting that kernel to the nexus 7. Also, this modified kernel is (currently) for 4.1.2. Unfortunately I am not smart enough to do this myself (especially we are now dealing with the pogo cable and the USB); I do hope to let everyone -- especially the developers! -- knows about the possibility in view of the gnex kernel.

Is this an issue only with Disk Media over OTG, or is it with anything (controllers, etc.) over OTG?

If anyone is interested read my edit a couple of posts up.

Sv: [Q] Pogo pins and OTG question [simultaneous charge & OTG?]
It says AC charging even though it's not actually charging. Confirm this with for example battery monitor widget.
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OTG and charging at the same time?

Is it possible to attach external devices to the Fire HD 10 via OTG and charge the Fire HD 10 at the same time using those special OTG+charging adapters?

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Is it possible to attach external devices to the Fire HD 10 via OTG and charge the Fire HD 10 at the same time using those special OTG+charging adapters?
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Yes you can. It's also helpful if you want to use a wireless usb controller since it needs the power boost. Here's what I use: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Left-Angle...361414?hash=item48830dbec6:g:rQsAAOSwMmBV5RRC

dondraper23 said:
Yes you can. It's also helpful if you want to use a wireless usb controller since it needs the power boost. Here's what I use: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Left-Angle...361414?hash=item48830dbec6:g:rQsAAOSwMmBV5RRC
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Thanks. So your tablet is charging while USB mice/keyboards/storage devices are attached simultaneously?

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Thanks. So your tablet is charging while USB mice/keyboards/storage devices are attached simultaneously?
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My pleasure! I have a bluetooth keyboard case. I mostly use it for flash drives and it charges while in use. I also have those devices plugged into my firesticks at all times so I can transfer video files easier and never had a problem

dondraper23 said:
My pleasure! I have a bluetooth keyboard case. I mostly use it for flash drives and it charges while in use. I also have those devices plugged into my firesticks at all times so I can transfer video files easier and never had a problem
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Thanks for the confirmation. I had been using this cable (https://www.amazon.com/Tendak-Micro...07828&sr=1-2-spons&keywords=otg+y+cable&psc=1) for my Nexus 7 I had installed in my dash, and for some reason it just doesn't work with my HD 8. Even with the USB DAC not connected, the cable registers power, charges for about 30 seconds, then says it's not connected to power anymore. don't have this issue with the Nexus, or with any of my other power cables, but that's the only OTG angle cable I have.
I'll try the one you use, but I'll have to use a Micro USB angled extension to make it fit in the dash. Unless someone else knows of an OTG y cable with an angled plug that actually works for the HD 8?
Update: I've bought two additional otg cables from Amazon, and one will work for the usb device, but doesn't charge the tablet, the other charges the tablet, but won't work for the usb device. After testing both of these several times, they both started to have the same behavior as my other one, it shows charging for a few seconds, then stops, but continues to power the usb device. If I connect a normal power cable it will stay in "fully charged" mode forever and Automate reports power is connected. I'm starting to get really frustrated. I'm pretty sure it is actually charging, because when I left it connected like that for an hour, it never moved from 85%, but then as soon as I plugged in a normal charging cable it started "charging" at about 6% per minute, and said 100% within 3 minutes. Not even a QC 3.0 can do that. I'm so confused.