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i want Google talk back!

F this hangouts app. Anyone have and ideas for getting talk back... This is driving me nuts.

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go to apps in setting uninstall HANGOUTS update

Sadly I just clean flashed and clean gapps installed today... So no talk to roll back to

Sooner or later, all Talk app will be replaced with Hangout. Don't be like one of them facebook biatches that complain every time they release a new update. Sure you might not like it at first, but you'll get used to it.
Anyways if you still insist on getting Talk, here's a link.

Buy a device that doesn't have ics or superior... Gingerbread won't hace hangout
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Nethojs29 said:
Buy a device that doesn't have ics or superior... Gingerbread won't hace hangout
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actually, the update used to say they're trying their best to bring hangout to all devices, including gingerbread.

Hangouts is a WhatsApp copycat which does nothing to integrate Google services and somehow manages to remove functionality with the inability to initiate audio-only voicechats. It's a shameless maneuver designed to force Google+ down users' throats.
What's worse, once this rolls into Gmail there's a good chance we'll lose the ability to make phone calls.

sirslope said:
Hangouts is a WhatsApp copycat which does nothing to integrate Google services and somehow manages to remove functionality with the inability to initiate audio-only voicechats. It's a shameless maneuver designed to force Google+ down users' throats.
What's worse, once this rolls into Gmail there's a good chance we'll lose the ability to make phone calls.
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It's not a whatsapp copy cat, but an evolution. Let me know when whatsapp let's me message from the pc and the tablet and we'll talk.
Also, no one is forcing Google+.
And they are adding voice chat support soon, but most likely be through Google voice. Also adding SMS support, which will take it even further beyond whatsapp.
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enviii said:
It's not a whatsapp copy cat, but an evolution. Let me know when whatsapp let's me message from the pc and the tablet and we'll talk.
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If Hangouts were an evolution, Google wouldn't have tried (and failed) to acquire WhatsApp twice over. I do like the ability to communicate via PC / tablet but Google Talk already had this. What exactly is new here besides features that were already present in WhatsApp?

sirslope said:
If Hangouts were an evolution, Google wouldn't have tried (and failed) to acquire WhatsApp twice over. I do like the ability to communicate via PC / tablet but Google Talk already had this. What exactly is new here besides features that were already present in WhatsApp?
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It's an earlier release for gods sake! Compare the first day of whatsapp with hangouts and see the differences!
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To bad your not feeling it bro. I'm liking it so far . If i get SMS integration I will be really happy.
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Nethojs29 said:
Buy a device that doesn't have ics or superior... Gingerbread won't hace hangout
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Its already shows as an update on my LG Optimus 2x which is still running Gingerbread lol. Used it but uninstalled it & now back to Google Talk .
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the only thing missing from hangouts for me is the ability to see the status of my contacts (whether they are available, away, busy or offline). otherwise i have no problems with it, especially that this is still an early release, it has still a long way to go. just be patient and you'll see!
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I like the fact that it's save chat history including images. No need to backup specific folder with every ROM update.
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exb0 said:
Don't be like one of them facebook biatches that complain every time they release a new update. Sure you might not like it at first, but you'll get used to it.
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Thanks for knowing what is best for me! Your the greatest. Also that .apk didn't work.
I love how some of you are such little fanboys that you actually think the way they are handling this is "OK." If I wanted something shoved down my throat, I woulda bought an iphone. We are beta testing this festering turd for them...and I don't want to lose functionality being a beta tester with no option to revert back.
Hangouts is complete garbage in it's current state. It's current state makes it a good replacement for the MESSENGER app...except they didn't even include ****ing SMS. It is however not a good replacement for talk.
Talk is an IM app. The beauty was I could open talk, look at statuses, know where people were (desktop, mobile, etc), and talk to people on the fly. Now I have no ****ing idea who/what I am messaging, if they are sitting in a conference call, or if they are just bored at their computer at work. I also use to to communicate with my wife...when it is green she is at her desk...when it is away I will just call or SMS her and not expect an instant response. Now I just lob a message out there without knowing if I am interrupting her at work or if she will respond in a few hours or a few seconds.
I am also no longer available for video chat for the people using talk. My whopping 100 minutes cell phone plan means I rely on talk heavily to talk to my family and my wife with video chats. They want to get up with me...they just video message me. No cell phone minutes used. Now they have to message me to get me to invite them to a video call....because I am using the **** that is hangouts and for whatever reason I am no longer available for video chat.
So once again...this app sucks in its current state for MY uses. Being FORCED to be a beta tester isn't my idea of fun.
Anyways...still looking how to get back to just straight old TALK if anyone has any other ideas.

y0bailey said:
Thanks for knowing what is best for me! Your the greatest. Also that .apk didn't work.
I love how some of you are such little fanboys that you actually think the way they are handling this is "OK." If I wanted something shoved down my throat, I woulda bought an iphone. We are beta testing this festering turd for them...and I don't want to lose functionality being a beta tester with no option to revert back.
Hangouts is complete garbage in it's current state. It's current state makes it a good replacement for the MESSENGER app...except they didn't even include ****ing SMS. It is however not a good replacement for talk.
Talk is an IM app. The beauty was I could open talk, look at statuses, know where people were (desktop, mobile, etc), and talk to people on the fly. Now I have no ****ing idea who/what I am messaging, if they are sitting in a conference call, or if they are just bored at their computer at work. I also use to to communicate with my wife...when it is green she is at her desk...when it is away I will just call or SMS her and not expect an instant response. Now I just lob a message out there without knowing if I am interrupting her at work or if she will respond in a few hours or a few seconds.
I am also no longer available for video chat for the people using talk. My whopping 100 minutes cell phone plan means I rely on talk heavily to talk to my family and my wife with video chats. They want to get up with me...they just video message me. No cell phone minutes used. Now they have to message me to get me to invite them to a video call....because I am using the **** that is hangouts and for whatever reason I am no longer available for video chat.
So once again...this app sucks in its current state for MY uses. Being FORCED to be a beta tester isn't my idea of fun.
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A beta test is an apt description. What other plausible explanation is there for leaving out such basic features as status icons / messages and voicechat?
I can understand various media outlets / blogs being fooled by the aesthetics (read: WhatsApp lookalike), but I expect logic to prevail on this forum and justifying the loss of features amounts to fanboyism in its purest form.

enviii said:
Also, no one is forcing Google+.
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To my knowledge it doesn't work if you don't have a Google+ account.

I don't like that Google has forced users to choose between gtalk and hangouts, especially since they are listing several important features as forthcoming. I do however, understand them wanting to increase the adoption of g+ because when glass comes out the g+ features that it adds will be simply amazing and unless users are already used to, and actively using g+ they won't see any reason to have glass.
All in all I think it's a smart move by Google, unpopular yes, but still smart over the long term.
I'm just dealing with it for now, I wasn't a gtalk user so the loss of features doesn't bother me in the slightest, I'm only irked by the loss of choice.
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Hangouts sucks!
I do not like it.
In previous versions of JellyBam it can be downgraded, just uninstalling updates, but now in 8.4.0, I had to remove Hangouts, I prefer not having a Google IM than having Hangouts.
It seems that Google was bought by MS, they are doing things that show they do not care about people.

group mms question

this is wierd....Im having this issue and hopefully someone can help me out. I can group mms with all my friends except 1. He has a verizon s3 and everytime he responds to a group mms it just goes into his seperate thread. My wife has an iphone and when he responds it goes into the group mms thread like it should. Its really confusing the hell out of me since hes the only person it happens to and i feel like its just with my phone. I looked at his phone and he is responding in the group thread like he should be but it send a seperate text to me instead of going into the group mms thread.
Anyone got any ideas?

newtonfb said:
this is wierd....Im having this issue and hopefully someone can help me out. I can group mms with all my friends except 1. He has a verizon s3 and everytime he responds to a group mms it just goes into his seperate thread. My wife has an iphone and when he responds it goes into the group mms thread like it should. Its really confusing the hell out of me since hes the only person it happens to and i feel like its just with my phone. I looked at his phone and he is responding in the group thread like he should be but it send a seperate text to me instead of going into the group mms thread.
Anyone got any ideas?
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His S3 is not on 4.2 or higher I'm guessing so his phone can't do group SMS (which uses MMS to communicate).
Blame Verizon, they are always freaking late on everything! The last update was 4.1.2 which came out in May but was released long ago. The other Samsung S3s all got 4.2 already (I think) but Verizon is slacking.

shotta35 said:
His S3 is not on 4.2 or higher I'm guessing so his phone can't do group SMS (which uses MMS to communicate).
Blame Verizon, they are always freaking late on everything! The last update was 4.1.2 which came out in May but was released long ago. The other Samsung S3s all got 4.2 already (I think) but Verizon is slacking.
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He can..my gf has an iphone and he responds right in the group mms thread on her phone but it shows up in his single thread on my phone...weird

Anyone ?
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This will always vary depending on these variables involved, the devices, the carriers, and, this one is key, if any of the lines involved have been ported.
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This will always vary depending on these variables involved, the devices, the carriers, and, this one is key, if any of the lines involved have been ported.
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Sorry to bump this post but I'm having the same exact issue..
My friend has a VZW S3 and his replies do not come under group chat.

Glad to see I'm not the only one. I've come to find out..if I use a third party app like handcent it works like it should. So its something with the stock app which sucks cuz I hate the third party apps
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BBM now live...

So Blackberry Messenger is now live. But I've its forced close like a dozen times in the last hour. Just me?
Btw add me 75e83757

It's live, but the waiting list makes it useless until you get in

A waiting list for a messenger is one of the most ridiculous things that I've heard this year. They obviously do not have the infrastructure in place to provide a cross platform service properly.
The little interest that I did have in Blackberry's last throw of the dice evaporated with that move. The only way I will install BBM now is if literally my entire contact list moves over to it and uses nothing else (not likely).
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It's live for me. But I used the leaked apk for a while before BB disabled it. So my email address was active from day one. Plus I used to have a BlackBerry back a couple years ago on the same email account. So I got instant access when it hit the play store.
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I can't help feel BlackBerry have shot themselves in the foot here. BBM for BlackBerry has remained, as it always was, a paid service. Yet the BBM on other platforms is free. Makes no sense. Surely it's freeing up everyone who wanted a BB for BBM to just move to say Android for the greater choice of handsets, better specs etc... and free BBM. Not a great business move at all. Idiots. That's all I can say. Even putting ads in BBM could have helped saved their asses. Imagine the audience BBM will get, 1 million downloads of the LEAKED app alone. They are kissing goodbye to some great opportunities here. But hell, I'm android now. Screw BlackBerry and their weird market strategy.
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Why must be like this????
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They could make a lot of money from the info we provide them. Much like viber does.
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Djocker said:
Why must be like this????
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Because there is a waiting list, presumably because they haven't got enough servers to handle demand. Probably the same reason they halted the rollout last month, despite blaming people with the leaked apk.
Also, you really should remove your email address from that screenshot.
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Whatsapp and Viber for me! No BBM...

Kirkymole said:
I can't help feel BlackBerry have shot themselves in the foot here. BBM for BlackBerry has remained, as it always was, a paid service. Yet the BBM on other platforms is free. Makes no sense. Surely it's freeing up everyone who wanted a BB for BBM to just move to say Android for the greater choice of handsets, better specs etc... and free BBM. Not a great business move at all. Idiots. That's all I can say. Even putting ads in BBM could have helped saved their asses. Imagine the audience BBM will get, 1 million downloads of the LEAKED app alone. They are kissing goodbye to some great opportunities here. But hell, I'm android now. Screw BlackBerry and their weird market strategy.
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Actually seeing as with BB10 the devices no longer require a blackberry data plan(shocking to me really) then it is free for all newer devices which is probably why they probably decided to open it up to other platforms.
As for the app itself, no force closes on my device, was unable to add contacts the 1st night I got to register but then by the next morning it was all working smoothly.

A few years to late. Funny how Bb tries to stay relevant.
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I have a group with several colleagues including a few that still uses a blackberry device. But those with BB device has incorrect time stamp when chatting in group. But the bb device users see my chat's time stamp is still correct. Has anyone else here have the same problem?

I had to wait like a day for my account activation. The email actually arrived hours later.

Uhm excuse me.. Why is anyone interested in this? We have Whatsapp?

DoubleYouPee said:
Uhm excuse me.. Why is anyone interested in this? We have Whatsapp?
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BBM has something of a cult style following. I personally hate WhatsApp. It's user interface is ugly and it doesn't always notify me or my other half that we actually have sent each other messages. Plus bbm you don't have to have the contact in your phone book. Which is always a good thing.
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Kirkymole said:
BBM has something of a cult style following. I personally hate WhatsApp. It's user interface is ugly and it doesn't always notify me or my other half that we actually have sent each other messages. Plus bbm you don't have to have the contact in your phone book. Which is always a good thing.
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I've used Whatsapp every day for 3 years (as does the entire country) and it always notifies. Probably user error.
Actually not needing an account (as it uses your contacts) is one of the greet things about Whatsapp, because you don't need an account that you need to sign in to or add eachother. It's just like SMS but free plus group conversations, free image/video send etc.

DoubleYouPee said:
I've used Whatsapp every day for 3 years (as does the entire country) and it always notifies. Probably user error.
Actually not needing an account (as it uses your contacts) is one of the greet things about Whatsapp, because you don't need an account that you need to sign in to or add eachother. It's just like SMS but free plus group conversations, free image/video send etc.
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Hardly user error considering I've used it since it hit Android and know my way round the very simple app very well. Probably more a phone error. I'm on an XZ with various mods, my other half's on an iPhone 4, which doesn't accept Whatsapp properly anyway. Worked perfectly on my HTC.
You like Whatsapp. I hate it. Each to their own.
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Vibration on new messages
Hey, is anyone having trouble turning off vibration whenever a new message is received on BBM?

Can anyone attach the notification tone here
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Have a question about new Hangout and SMS feautre

So I was all excited about it, the new Hangout and today I installed it. Now let me get this straight, the SMS feature, that will just replace my native messaging app and I will be sending SMS via Hangout instead of my native app, and it will be sent normally via my carrier. I mean why on earth would one use this feature? What am I missing here? What's the point?

Same here... In my case the most annpying thing is that it doewnt allow to cuztomize who shows and who doesnt, i have now a lot of people that i dont care just for following them on g+...
Nah... Uninstalling
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ktouy said:
Same here... In my case the most annpying thing is that it doewnt allow to cuztomize who shows and who doesnt, i have now a lot of people that i dont care just for following them on g+...
Nah... Uninstalling
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Yeah exactly. If iPhone 5C is the most ridiculous device of this planet, then this so called 'upgrade' of G-Talk to Hangout is the most ridiculous software update ever made
God I am so happy I kept Talk's backup in several places.:victory:

Hangouts

Does anyone know why it's supposed to be better to use this as your sms? It seems like everyone is always talking about it.
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big70tom said:
Does anyone know why it's supposed to be better to use this as your sms? It seems like everyone is always talking about it.
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i used it for about a month or two, I really liked it and uninstalled the Messaging app, then I started to see a lot of my messages weren't going through. My messages Always went through but with hangouts I've seen a lot of them that 'failed' to send. I've changed back to the original messaging app and I've had no issues.